So I have verizon in michigan.. instead of it saying verizon in the top left corner is says 31000... any ideas on that ? or how to change it?
The 5t is not compatible with VZW as it has no band 13. It may work but I think you'll have problems with that missing band.
Mike02z said:
The 5t is not compatible with VZW as it has no band 13. It may work but I think you'll have problems with that missing band.
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Do you know that 13 band does?
Band 13 is the primary LTE band for Verizon. It also uses 14 and 2 but 13 is the primary band and you're going to have major problems without 13 on VZW or Sprint. See below...
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Che...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
Mike02z said:
Band 13 is the primary LTE band for Verizon. It also uses 14 and 2 but 13 is the primary band and you're going to have major problems without 13 on VZW or Sprint. See below...
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Che...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
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ballllllllllllz.. stupid verizon needs to drop CDMA...
Yeah I have had the same issue with Oneplus in the past. Also, the UTC 11 didn't have band 13. Service was very spotty and LTE didn't work often. Sucks for us Michigan (at least Detroit metro) peeps because Tmobs and AT&T suck around here. VZW is so solid, but being limited to phones really hurts!!!!
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No band 13 means???
Mike02z said:
The 5t is not compatible with VZW as it has no band 13. It may work but I think you'll have problems with that missing band.
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Help a dummy out. Does the CDMA support mean the 5t can make phone calls and the lack of band 13 mean LTE performance will suffer?
If so, that sounds like my VZN supported phone.. It may not be a downgrade in service.
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Help a dummy out. Does the CDMA support mean the 5t can make phone calls and the lack of band 13 mean LTE performance will suffer?
If so, that sounds like my VZN supported phone.. It may not be a downgrade in service.
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"Verizon Wireless was the first to arrive to the 4G LTE race and it has also built its nationwide network based on 700 MHz spectrum, but the primary band for Verizon is band 13. Bands 2 and 4 are used to strengthen the signal in the densely populated urban areas. One important thing to note about Verizon Wireless is that many phones are built specifically for the carrier, including its 4G LTE bands. In other words, the common case is that you will not be able to use an AT&T device on Verizon's 4G LTE network."
I've never tried my OnePlus 5t on VZW as the posts I've read said the phone is basically useless on VZW.
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Hello,
I'm thinking about buying this phone, I would like to know if this phone is fully compatible with tmobile?
Thanks.
Tmobile uses bands 2, 4, and 12 with 12 not in use yet or not broadly available (recently acquired from Verizon). The ZF2 has bands 1-8, 17, and 20. Everyone who has posted says that it works perfectly on Tmo. The trial SIMs Asus gave out at the US announcement were all Tmo SIMs as well.
Works great on t-mobile for me. No band 12 of course.
Same here. Tmob in NYC works well (better reception in buildings with the newest update actually), but no band 12.
Is band 12 necessary? What effect does lack of band 12 have?
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Is band 12 necessary? What effect does lack of band 12 have?
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Band 12 is not necessary. I'm using the Zenfone 2 on T-Mobile. No reception or speed issues. Pulling ~60mbps down/~30mbps up.
Seems to be working on Tmobile Prepaid as well.
Band 12 is new and has limited availability. I think it is supposed to have better indoor coverage. I don't think it is a big deal. Band 12 phones are just starting to come out on t-mobile (I don't think the iPhone has it).
Compared to my Note 4 from Tmobile, the Zenfone 2 has been getting me better reception. I switch often, but been staying with the Zenfone more lately.
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Compared to my Note 4 from Tmobile, the Zenfone 2 has been getting me better reception. I switch often, but been staying with the Zenfone more lately.
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Same here. I have an iphone 6 plus that I cant stand so I switched to the ZF2. The ZF2 gets way better reception..
I am wondering if signal/reception really is better with the T-Mobile with band 12 or really not much difference from International H815 version without band 12, has anyone checked both yet and compared.
You should receive "better" LTE services on the T-Mobile version of the phone. However, T-Mobile uses many different bands for LTE, so you'll still get it on the H815. I haven't been able to compare the two, but each phone has its benefits. In terms of calls and general signal, I've had 0 problems with the H815. I live in NYC.
H815 is better for international use and dev support from the xda forums since it's the international version. T-Mobile version is good since it has WiFi calling and the added USA LTE band support.
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I am wondering if signal/reception really is better with the T-Mobile with band 12 or really not much difference from International H815 version without band 12, has anyone checked both yet and compared.
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I have the H815 EU version unlocked on TMOUS and there is not difference, except for the loss of band 12. I pick up band 4 at work and band 2 at home just like I did with the H811. Not too sure if band 12 is even available in my area.
The loss of WiFi Calling would be a huge problem, especially since it ALSO does not have LTE Band 12, which is what T-Mobile is deploying to penetrate into buildings and basements (Bands 4 and 2 usually crap out indoors and the phone drops to HSPA).
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I am wondering if signal/reception really is better with the T-Mobile with band 12 or really not much difference from International H815 version without band 12, has anyone checked both yet and compared.
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It really depends if Band 12 is deployed in your area.
I also got the international version and used it on T-Mobile. I picked up their Band 4 LTE just fine, but the signal was too weak at my house, so I switched to AT&T (since this phone has more support for AT&T's bands, 2,4,5,17) and reception is somewhat improved.
How can you find out which bands you are using? I am using LTE Discovery but that is just for LTE only, just wonder which other bands I am getting?
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How can you find out which bands you are using? I am using LTE Discovery but that is just for LTE only, just wonder which other bands I am getting?
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LTE Discovery also shows you the GSM bands you are using. See attached.
I am in Minneapolis and band 12 is completely ruled out so its way better
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I am in Minneapolis and band 12 is completely roled out so its way better
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LTE Discovery also shows you the GSM bands you are using. See attached.
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I can see that it does detect GSM, but never shows which bands you are using unless you have a sheet to translate the frequency.
Band 12 has a significant difference in terms of distance and in-building LTE coverage, I'd personally not get a phone without it if you plan on being with T-Mobile for a while.
I personally not going to get the phone until the end of August, I am hoping all the bugs are worked out by then and it can be unlocked too, I will also get a replacement plan as well.
Yes it will be the T-Mobile variant because of the band 12, I currently get band 4 LTE, but it tends to cycle on and off in my apartment, I live in a hard to get signal area, I see most people having to walk outside just to talk on phone, my LG G2 doesn't have that problem but data with LTE has been a problem only.
Hello!
I have an unlocked sprint note 4 which I use outside the USA as a GSM phone with a sim card.
So far so good.
The problem is that this phone being produced for sprint does not connect on 4G.
I have been reading about the possibility to change the NV values to be able to add LTE bands to the phone and I was able to change those values but still no luck.
In my country, the 4g network works mostly on bands 3 and 7 (1800 and 2600).
I am starting to think that probably the sprint version might have differences in hardware with other 4G capable phones.
Can anybody tell if there are any hardware differences between the sprint note 4 and other note 4 models.
Do you think that the sprint note 4 has what its needed to connect on 4G on the above frequencies?
If yes, what might be the right approach to try to resolve this.
Thank you for reading and since this is my first post on XDA please help me!
Yes, because of Sprint Spark it only uses 26 and 41 bands, 1900mhz and 2.5ghz respectively. FDD-LTE and TD-LTE are unique to Sprint and they are big enough to have the phones shipped this way. For flexability yoh should move to a GSM model phone.
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Yes, because of Sprint Spark it only uses 26 and 41 bands, 1900mhz and 2.5ghz respectively. FDD-LTE and TD-LTE are unique to Sprint and they are big enough to have the phones shipped this way. For flexability yoh should move to a GSM model phone.
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Heh, what you think about this thread.
Especially about the history of success adding LTE bands 4/14 in SGS5 SM-G900P from Sprint?
Samsung SM-G900F - added LTE band 4. Confirmed operation on new band
Samsung SM-G900P - added LTE band 4/14
Samsung SM-G906L - added LTE band 4
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Heh, what you think about this thread.
Especially about the history of success adding LTE bands 4/14 in SGS5 SM-G900P from Sprint?
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Its worth giving a try for sure. You do run the risk of bricking your NV and losing signal altogether. However, I have done this successfully using DFS CDMA Tools on an old Samsumg Cappy from AT&T back in the day. *Disclaimer: proceed at your own risk*
After further review, and some trial and error, the above listed mod only works with GSM phones. Your Note is a CDMA version. Please do not try.
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After further review, and some trial and error, the above listed mod only works with GSM phones. Your Note is a CDMA version. Please do not try.
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I understand but since my note is a CDMA how can you explain that it works fine for GSM and data in 3g ?
What might be the hardware difference with the international version that does not allow my phone to work in 4g in my network?
I am assuming that they use the same chip-set and the problem is only soft based.
Don't get your hopes up, fellow Sprint customers.
This phone is gearing up to be another LTE-limited Sprint-only type phone, similar to what they do with most of their other phones. I'm speculating based on the fact that there is currently an unlocked version of the phone listed at B&H:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1239314-REG/lg_lgrs988_ausasv_g5_h850_32gb_smartphone.html
Nowhere in the specs and description does it list anything about Sprint support and there's no indication that Sprint will even activate this phone. If for some reason Sprint does decide to activate this phone, it's missing LTE bands 26 and 41 which means you're stuck using band 25 only for LTE connections in the US.
I think it's reasonable to assume they will disable or leave off LTE band 7 and possibly 13 and 20 as they did with the recently released Samsung Galaxy S7.
This means the probable Sprint-only LG G5 might be partially crippled for worldwide LTE bands, assuming LTE band 7 is not included, but will mostly work with Sprint domestically.
As of right now, if you're looking for the most widely supported phones for international use that work with Sprint natively, which include LTE band 7, you're limited to Apple iPhone 6s, Motorola Moto X 2nd gen, and Nexus 5x/6p.
Edit 03/24/2016 - Phonescoop.com is reporting that LG is adding LTE bands 25, 26, and 41 to a base model but no report of getting rid of band 7.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5094
Edit 03/25/2016 - Phonescoop updated its listing now saying LG got rid of LTE 1/2/5/7/20. So this will be yet another LTE crippled Sprint phone with only LTE bands 3 / 4 / 12 / 25 / 26 / 41
What I want to know is will the Sprint LG G5 have full use of Verizon's post/pre paid service if I chose to leave Sprint for Verizon in the future ???
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What I want to know is will the Sprint LG G5 have full use of Verizon's post/pre paid service if I chose to leave Sprint for Verizon in the future ???
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Verizon uses LTE bands 2, 4 and 13. Sprint only included band 4. So while it's theoretically possible, there's no telling if all three bands are active on all Verizon LTE towers.
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Verizon uses LTE bands 2, 4 and 13. Sprint only included band 4. So while it's theoretically possible, there's no telling if all three bands are active on all Verizon LTE towers.
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The question I want to ask is this:
Will a Sprint LG G5 support all the bands that Verizon uses like the Nexus 6P/5X ???
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The question I want to ask is this:
Will a Sprint LG G5 support all the bands that Verizon uses like the Nexus 6P/5X ???
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Don't count on it. Very unlikely.
Any reason why my Pixel 2 XL will not connect to Verizon's Band 4? I get all of the other bands, but not Band 4.
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Any reason why my Pixel 2 XL will not connect to Verizon's Band 4? I get all of the other bands, but not Band 4.
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How are you determining which band your on?
Not trying to be sarcastic, I am truly curious. I too am on Big Red, but couldn't tell you what band I'm on
@Badger50: Answer to your question is at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en_US
@BuffLG: Verizon's band 4 may be widespread but it is used to provide added capacity to the network. If the cellular traffic in your location isn't heavy enough, you may never see band 4 even though the P2XL supports it.
I use Signal check to see the bands. Or LTE Discovery.
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@Badger50: Answer to your question is at https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery&hl=en_US
@BuffLG: Verizon's band 4 may be widespread but it is used to provide added capacity to the network. If the cellular traffic in your location isn't heavy enough, you may never see band 4 even though the P2XL supports it.
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Much obliged kind sir. I do know/remember that I'm usually on band 13, but was curious to know how to check it. Thanks again :good::good:
Lol with LTE Discovery it says I'm on ATT band 12, while signal check shows band 17.
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Signal Check Pro easiest way.
Band 13 is Verizon's original LTE band has furthest range (700 mhz spectrum). Band 4 (1700 mhz) and 2 (1900 mhz) are their AWS spectrum.
Band 2 also has the highest capacity. Usually deployed in the most congested areas first.
Band 2 will technically be the fastest. Will probably be the hardest to connect to, but if you're close enough to a tower and getting Band 2 service, you're golden. I've seen speeds close to 100 MBPS on Band 2
I'd bet a nickel you're not seeing band 4 because of this bug: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/37136986
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I'd bet a nickel you're not seeing band 4 because of this bug: https://issuetracker.google.com/issues/37136986
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Reading through everything, most people are having issues with T-Mobiles LTE band 66 showing up as band 3.
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Reading through everything, most people are having issues with T-Mobiles LTE band 66 showing up as band 3.
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This bug is relevant on Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile but not Sprint (I believe) as they don't have Band 4 and/or 66. T-Mobile turned on MFBI at least several months (maybe a year?) before Verizon and AT&T did.
Again I don't know for sure if it's related to what you're seeing but it does "smell" that way. Band 4 in the Phoenix area almost always shows up as a Band 2 EARFCN that Verizon doesn't own when using Signal Check Pro as it is being reported incorrectly by Android. The EARFCN is correct under the same conditions using Network Signal Guru since it reads directly from the Qualcomm chip.
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Any reason why my Pixel 2 XL will not connect to Verizon's Band 4? I get all of the other bands, but not Band 4.
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I always got band 4 until the last couple weeks .. I now get Band 3 instead of band 4 which seems to be faster if I get a strong enough signal.. Band 3 doesn't seem to be as strong a signal as Band 4 though.. Band 4 was always displaying as XLTE where Band 3 displays as LTE.. my old Moto Pure still gets Band 4 so I really don't understand why the Pixel no longer will get it! Got to be by design by Verizon, me thinks!!
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I always got band 4 until the last couple weeks .. I now get Band 3 instead of band 4 which seems to be faster if I get a strong enough signal.. Band 3 doesn't seem to be as strong a signal as Band 4 though.. Band 4 was always displaying as XLTE where Band 3 displays as LTE.. my old Moto Pure still gets Band 4 so I really don't understand why the Pixel no longer will get it! Got to be by design by Verizon, me thinks!!
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That's the exact issue @turboencab is talking about. There is no Band 3 LTE in the USA. You are seeing Band 3 because of an Android OS/Qualcomm bug that cuts off EARFCN values above 65536. Band 4 can be "displayed" as Band 66 and most operators choose to do this now. Band 66 EARFCN values are above 65536.
Tldr; there is no Band 3 in the US. You are still connected to Band 4. Apps aren't able to display the correct band due to an OS bug.
Try to use CellMapper as a tool to see what you're connected to. The devs for that app can "correct" this issue based off some assumptions. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cellmapper.net.cellmapper