I am wondering if signal/reception really is better with the T-Mobile with band 12 or really not much difference from International H815 version without band 12, has anyone checked both yet and compared.
You should receive "better" LTE services on the T-Mobile version of the phone. However, T-Mobile uses many different bands for LTE, so you'll still get it on the H815. I haven't been able to compare the two, but each phone has its benefits. In terms of calls and general signal, I've had 0 problems with the H815. I live in NYC.
H815 is better for international use and dev support from the xda forums since it's the international version. T-Mobile version is good since it has WiFi calling and the added USA LTE band support.
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Arctic Prodigy said:
I am wondering if signal/reception really is better with the T-Mobile with band 12 or really not much difference from International H815 version without band 12, has anyone checked both yet and compared.
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I have the H815 EU version unlocked on TMOUS and there is not difference, except for the loss of band 12. I pick up band 4 at work and band 2 at home just like I did with the H811. Not too sure if band 12 is even available in my area.
The loss of WiFi Calling would be a huge problem, especially since it ALSO does not have LTE Band 12, which is what T-Mobile is deploying to penetrate into buildings and basements (Bands 4 and 2 usually crap out indoors and the phone drops to HSPA).
Arctic Prodigy said:
I am wondering if signal/reception really is better with the T-Mobile with band 12 or really not much difference from International H815 version without band 12, has anyone checked both yet and compared.
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It really depends if Band 12 is deployed in your area.
I also got the international version and used it on T-Mobile. I picked up their Band 4 LTE just fine, but the signal was too weak at my house, so I switched to AT&T (since this phone has more support for AT&T's bands, 2,4,5,17) and reception is somewhat improved.
How can you find out which bands you are using? I am using LTE Discovery but that is just for LTE only, just wonder which other bands I am getting?
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How can you find out which bands you are using? I am using LTE Discovery but that is just for LTE only, just wonder which other bands I am getting?
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LTE Discovery also shows you the GSM bands you are using. See attached.
I am in Minneapolis and band 12 is completely ruled out so its way better
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I am in Minneapolis and band 12 is completely roled out so its way better
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LTE Discovery also shows you the GSM bands you are using. See attached.
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I can see that it does detect GSM, but never shows which bands you are using unless you have a sheet to translate the frequency.
Band 12 has a significant difference in terms of distance and in-building LTE coverage, I'd personally not get a phone without it if you plan on being with T-Mobile for a while.
I personally not going to get the phone until the end of August, I am hoping all the bugs are worked out by then and it can be unlocked too, I will also get a replacement plan as well.
Yes it will be the T-Mobile variant because of the band 12, I currently get band 4 LTE, but it tends to cycle on and off in my apartment, I live in a hard to get signal area, I see most people having to walk outside just to talk on phone, my LG G2 doesn't have that problem but data with LTE has been a problem only.
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I'm VERY concerned about buying this phone now. T-Mobile have only listed LTE bands 4 & 17 on their site.
International
Quad Band GSM; LTE: 4, 17; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850)
What in the eff?
Des just answererd this question on Twitter: https://twitter.com/askdes/status/581568102015569920
It has:
GSM - 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS - B1/B2/B4/B5
LTE - B2/B4/B12/B17 with CA + B3/B7 roaming
This is the perfect T-Mobile phone.
So the T-Mobile version does not have 1700, and is therefore identical to the other models? Do we know if it includes wifi-calling, or if we would be able to flash the T-Mobile ROM onto the unlocked dev version?
malakai1911 said:
Des just answererd this question on Twitter: https://twitter.com/askdes/status/581568102015569920
It has:
GSM - 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS - B1/B2/B4/B5
LTE - B2/B4/B12/B17 with CA + B3/B7 roaming
This is the perfect T-Mobile phone.
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But doesn't the AT&T, Unlocked, or Dev model include all of those bands and then some?
pongalong said:
So the T-Mobile version does not have 1700, and is therefore identical to the other models? Do we know if it includes wifi-calling, or if we would be able to flash the T-Mobile ROM onto the unlocked dev version?
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It does have 1700! That's Band 4, and for both LTE and HSPA.
The T-Mobile version also supports WiFi calling and texting. I have no idea if the T-Mobile firmware can be flashed to the unlocked version, but I don't see why it wouldn't be feasible.
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But doesn't the AT&T, Unlocked, or Dev model include all of those bands and then some?
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T-Mobile (Des) confirmed: 2, 3, 4, 7, 12, and 17
AT&T lists: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, and 29 (adds +5 and +29)
HTC Dev & Unlocked versions (per HTC on Twitter): 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 29, 30 (adds +5, +13, +29, +30)
Maybe the T-Mo phone supports more that could be unlocked, who knows. The extra bands aren't useful to me.
Sorry, but I just want to clarify.
Do all versions of this phone support BAND IV UMTS or not?
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But doesn't the AT&T, Unlocked, or Dev model include all of those bands and then some?
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HTC has done this on the past couple of phones. Only the T-Mobile phone will do their specific bands (HSPA+). On past models I don't recall anyone getting the ATT/DEV models to work with those T-Mobile bands. I don't believe we ever found out why. Some speculated it was due to cost to license all the bands, or that it is actually different hardware. The M7 and M8 were both like that.
If you are on T-Mobile, I'd get the model specifically for them.
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HTC has done this on the past couple of phones. Only the T-Mobile phone will do their specific bands (HSPA+). On past models I don't recall anyone getting the ATT/DEV models to work with those T-Mobile bands. I don't believe we ever found out why. Some speculated it was due to cost to license all the bands, or that it is actually different hardware. The M7 and M8 were both like that.
If you are on T-Mobile, I'd get the model specifically for them.
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Oh yeah I remember my Dev version being like that. Fortunately, I live in an area that has been upgraded to mostly lte. This was actually beneficial for me and maybe others in the same situation because it actually saves battery life when the phone isn't constantly switching between edge, 3g/+, and lte. I'm sure many others have been in an area that's barely out of lte but still within h+ range and it's still slow as edge or even slower.
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Oh yeah I remember my Dev version being like that. Fortunately, I live in an area that has been upgraded to mostly lte. This was actually beneficial for me and maybe others in the same situation because it actually saves battery life when the phone isn't constantly switching between edge, 3g/+, and lte. I'm sure many others have been in an area that's barely out of lte but still within h+ range and it's still slow as edge or even slower.
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Yes, it is OK if you live in a major area that has lots of LTE. Here just north of LA, I get into the other bands pretty frequently.
I am not sure this was answered? Do all versions of the HTC one m 9 support band 4 UMTS? Many ATT carrier unlocked models are for sale and no one seems to know if they will pick up the UMTS 1700 band 4 on T- Mo?
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I am not sure this was answered? Do all versions of the HTC one m 9 support band 4 UMTS? Many ATT carrier unlocked models are for sale and no one seems to know if they will pick up the UMTS 1700 band 4 on T- Mo?
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The AT&T M9 I bought does.
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I am not sure this was answered? Do all versions of the HTC one m 9 support band 4 UMTS? Many ATT carrier unlocked models are for sale and no one seems to know if they will pick up the UMTS 1700 band 4 on T- Mo?
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They will not pick up the T-Mobile specific bands, which use 1900/2100 for 41bps speed. They will work with the T-Mobile LTE band.
Wow, still a mystery. I have the AT&T SIM Unlocked One M9 and I have a TMobile prepaid SIM and get Edge, 3G, 4G, LTE Band 2,4,12...I cannot find an app that shows the actual WCDMA (4G) Bands ? But, it notates 42 MBPS when it says HSPA+ 4G using Network Signal Info-Pro App..and also shows 384 Kbps when it says 3G....
So, seems Des is correct unless the Network Signal Info Pro app is wrong?
I turned off everything except WCDMA, and this is what I get being reported by LTE Discovery. HSPA+ @ -113. I have a ATT unlocked M9. I do have the T-Mobile 2.11.531.19 firmware installed as well as the T-Mobile rom.
Using XDA to unleash the power of Android on my HTC One M9
Thanks but as I mentioned I cannot find an App that shows the WCDMA Bands to confirm. As you can see even LTE Discovery says N/A for DL and UL Freq...when on WCDMA...
The only App I can see that helps is Network Signal Info Pro...and unfortunately it is limited and shows me the below in my market;
HSPA+ 42.2 MBPS
HSDPA 7.2 MBPS
UMTS 386 KBPS
But, does not indicate which Band or Frequency ?
Anyone know of an App or Command that will show WCDMA Bands???
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Hello!
I have an unlocked sprint note 4 which I use outside the USA as a GSM phone with a sim card.
So far so good.
The problem is that this phone being produced for sprint does not connect on 4G.
I have been reading about the possibility to change the NV values to be able to add LTE bands to the phone and I was able to change those values but still no luck.
In my country, the 4g network works mostly on bands 3 and 7 (1800 and 2600).
I am starting to think that probably the sprint version might have differences in hardware with other 4G capable phones.
Can anybody tell if there are any hardware differences between the sprint note 4 and other note 4 models.
Do you think that the sprint note 4 has what its needed to connect on 4G on the above frequencies?
If yes, what might be the right approach to try to resolve this.
Thank you for reading and since this is my first post on XDA please help me!
Yes, because of Sprint Spark it only uses 26 and 41 bands, 1900mhz and 2.5ghz respectively. FDD-LTE and TD-LTE are unique to Sprint and they are big enough to have the phones shipped this way. For flexability yoh should move to a GSM model phone.
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Yes, because of Sprint Spark it only uses 26 and 41 bands, 1900mhz and 2.5ghz respectively. FDD-LTE and TD-LTE are unique to Sprint and they are big enough to have the phones shipped this way. For flexability yoh should move to a GSM model phone.
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Heh, what you think about this thread.
Especially about the history of success adding LTE bands 4/14 in SGS5 SM-G900P from Sprint?
Samsung SM-G900F - added LTE band 4. Confirmed operation on new band
Samsung SM-G900P - added LTE band 4/14
Samsung SM-G906L - added LTE band 4
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Heh, what you think about this thread.
Especially about the history of success adding LTE bands 4/14 in SGS5 SM-G900P from Sprint?
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Its worth giving a try for sure. You do run the risk of bricking your NV and losing signal altogether. However, I have done this successfully using DFS CDMA Tools on an old Samsumg Cappy from AT&T back in the day. *Disclaimer: proceed at your own risk*
After further review, and some trial and error, the above listed mod only works with GSM phones. Your Note is a CDMA version. Please do not try.
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After further review, and some trial and error, the above listed mod only works with GSM phones. Your Note is a CDMA version. Please do not try.
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I understand but since my note is a CDMA how can you explain that it works fine for GSM and data in 3g ?
What might be the hardware difference with the international version that does not allow my phone to work in 4g in my network?
I am assuming that they use the same chip-set and the problem is only soft based.
I called a tmobile rep who said that the Xiaomi Mi Max is compatible with tmobile's 4G LTE. Meanwhile a few users have said that it may not be compatible. So I dont know who to believe. Could you guys who own this phone and who are on tmobile tell me if its compatible on tmobile's 4G LTE?
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I called a tmobile rep who said that the Xiaomi Mi Max is compatible with tmobile's 4G LTE. Meanwhile a few users have said that it may not be compatible. So I dont know who to believe. Could you guys who own this phone and who are on tmobile tell me if its compatible on tmobile's 4G LTE?
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No LTE in USA for any provider...
No its not.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chea...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
http://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php#
At least if this is full list & correct one.
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No LTE in USA for any provider...
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I dont understand your comment. Did you mean to say that there is no LTE form any provider in the US or that the phone isnt compatible with any 4G in the US?
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No its not.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chea...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
http://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php#
At least if this is full list & correct one.
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A tmobile rep emailed me the LTE bands that tmobile currently uses for New York City. He said the phone is compatible. Look below at the tmobile bands. Compare those with the bands on the Xiaomi Mi Max, which is linked here:
http://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model/4ea93be4
Let me know you think!!!!
T-mobile network frequencies in New York are:
2G (GSM)
4G/3G U2100
4G/3G U1900
LTE 2100
LTE 1900
LTE 700A
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T-mobile network frequencies in New York are:
2G (GSM)
4G/3G U2100
4G/3G U1900
LTE 2100
LTE 1900
LTE 700A
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Well if that's the case it should work, the 2100 & 1900 LTE band's are covered but both of those are short range, long range one LTE 700A is not covered but same situation is in EU regarding LTE band 800. Still I don't guarantee you it will work, it should & close to the towers with those two short range bands if you're info is correct (phone side is correct and same as listed on GSMarena).
Best regards.
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I dont understand your comment. Did you mean to say that there is no LTE form any provider in the US or that the phone isnt compatible with any 4G in the US?
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No LTE in USA for any provider... with Mi Max.... T-Mobile rep doesn't know a thing about this phone.
check this out "will my phone work .net" without spaces
I've checked myshelf, no support for T-Mobile 4G LTE in New York. Only 2G and 3G
I have mi max on t mobile and only have hspa+, but it's fast enough in my area (30mbs down)
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I live in NYC and I get about 5 mbps down using tmo. In comparison, using my note 4 I get around 30mpbs. In NYC you will be using the refarmed 3g network, not LTE. My phone switches between 3g and h+ but it's essentially the same thing
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I live in NYC and I get about 5 mbps down using tmo. In comparison, using my note 4 I get around 30mpbs. In NYC you will be using the refarmed 3g network, not LTE. My phone switches between 3g and h+ but it's essentially the same thing
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Same here Chicago suburbs
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I've driven from upper new york thru Canada, to Chicago. Never without data for long. All bigger cities fine, smaller cities 3g, it's a great device.
Probably not stream video but Google maps worked fine.
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So I have verizon in michigan.. instead of it saying verizon in the top left corner is says 31000... any ideas on that ? or how to change it?
The 5t is not compatible with VZW as it has no band 13. It may work but I think you'll have problems with that missing band.
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The 5t is not compatible with VZW as it has no band 13. It may work but I think you'll have problems with that missing band.
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Do you know that 13 band does?
Band 13 is the primary LTE band for Verizon. It also uses 14 and 2 but 13 is the primary band and you're going to have major problems without 13 on VZW or Sprint. See below...
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Che...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
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Band 13 is the primary LTE band for Verizon. It also uses 14 and 2 but 13 is the primary band and you're going to have major problems without 13 on VZW or Sprint. See below...
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Che...on-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
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ballllllllllllz.. stupid verizon needs to drop CDMA...
Yeah I have had the same issue with Oneplus in the past. Also, the UTC 11 didn't have band 13. Service was very spotty and LTE didn't work often. Sucks for us Michigan (at least Detroit metro) peeps because Tmobs and AT&T suck around here. VZW is so solid, but being limited to phones really hurts!!!!
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No band 13 means???
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The 5t is not compatible with VZW as it has no band 13. It may work but I think you'll have problems with that missing band.
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Help a dummy out. Does the CDMA support mean the 5t can make phone calls and the lack of band 13 mean LTE performance will suffer?
If so, that sounds like my VZN supported phone.. It may not be a downgrade in service.
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Help a dummy out. Does the CDMA support mean the 5t can make phone calls and the lack of band 13 mean LTE performance will suffer?
If so, that sounds like my VZN supported phone.. It may not be a downgrade in service.
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"Verizon Wireless was the first to arrive to the 4G LTE race and it has also built its nationwide network based on 700 MHz spectrum, but the primary band for Verizon is band 13. Bands 2 and 4 are used to strengthen the signal in the densely populated urban areas. One important thing to note about Verizon Wireless is that many phones are built specifically for the carrier, including its 4G LTE bands. In other words, the common case is that you will not be able to use an AT&T device on Verizon's 4G LTE network."
I've never tried my OnePlus 5t on VZW as the posts I've read said the phone is basically useless on VZW.
Hello, I'm looking at the Global version of the Redmi Note 5 (Basically the pro. Referred to as the AI Dual camera on GSM arena) and I'll be using it in the US on Mint Mobile. Mint is a T-Mobile MVNO and I'm not sure how LTE support will be on this. If anyone has any info on this that would be great. I believe Mint mainly uses B4 and B12 but I could be wrong. I've been looking around and found mixed responses of it having good carrier support stateside and others saying it won't work.
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Hello, I'm looking at the Global version of the Redmi Note 5 (Basically the pro. Referred to as the AI Dual camera on GSM arena) and I'll be using it in the US on Mint Mobile. Mint is a T-Mobile MVNO and I'm not sure how LTE support will be on this. If anyone has any info on this that would be great. I believe Mint mainly uses B4 and B12 but I could be wrong. I've been looking around and found mixed responses of it having good carrier support stateside and others saying it won't work.
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I can confirm that the phone will WORK on B4 (1700mHz/2100mHz) and B5 if you live in the greater Myrtle Beach area. (Acquired from SunCom back in the late 2000's). I don't know if your area has B5. On your existing phone, get LTE Discovery from the Play Store and sample your most common areas first to see what bands are most prominent. Being where I live, the phone mostly uses Band 5 over 4 because of the lower freq; able to reach tougher places where the higher freq B4 can't reach.
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I can confirm that the phone will WORK on B4 (1700mHz/2100mHz) and B5 if you live in the greater Myrtle Beach area. (Acquired from SunCom back in the late 2000's). I don't know if your area has B5. On your existing phone, get LTE Discovery from the Play Store and sample your most common areas first to see what bands are most prominent. Being where I live, the phone mostly uses Band 5 over 4 because of the lower freq; able to reach tougher places where the higher freq B4 can't reach.
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Thank you so much for the reply. I'll give that a download and travel around. Since posting I did discover my current phone supports the same bands. So I'm less worried. :good:
Lte works on band 4, but not band 12 on T-Mobile. But, for me band 4 is enough, if I don't get lte the device will switch to 2g. 3g straight up does not work for me on T-Mobile, although I've heard that T-Mobile does not use 3g anymore in the first place.
All in all, for me lte works just as well as my previous phone (zte zmax pro)
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Lte works on band 4, but not band 12 on T-Mobile. But, for me band 4 is enough, if I don't get lte the device will switch to 2g. 3g straight up does not work for me on T-Mobile, although I've heard that T-Mobile does not use 3g anymore in the first place.
All in all, for me lte works just as well as my previous phone (zte zmax pro)
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I can see that. When B4 and B5 don't work the phone just switches to 2G but without internet so basic voice and sms still works. about 70% of the time after it switches to 2G it'll tap onto HSPA+ (3.5G, coined 4G) and I got that for a while until LTE reconnects. Rinse and repeat until I have to leave to go somewhere.