Fast battery drain? - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

Has anyone experienced drastic loss of battery charge? I had mine on the charger and after unplugging for 13 min it went from 100% to 87%

There might be a app that drains a lot, i had a fast drain too, not as bad but once i deleted a few apps it was better. I have over 100 apps on this phone :X

Odd thing is , I just did a factory reset and if I don't use the phone the stats show 14 hrs + but.as soon as I start using it . It starts dropping super fast

Are you rooted? Have you Xposed installed?
Do you have a microSD inserted?

Never rooted this phone and I do have an SD card in it, would that affect?

Yes/no , sometimes the SD files can be somewhat corrupted which in turn makes your media scanner run non stop,.if you pull your SD and put into a Windows cpu, and run a program to scan for corrupted files,. I've not had high battery drain but I do check my stats and Android O.S. is by far the largest consumer (damn I miss root) verizon

costarican said:
Never rooted this phone and I do have an SD card in it, would that affect?
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Try to use it without microSD card for a while and look at what happens...
On my old Moto Z many reported overheating and battery drain with uncompatible cards...
Anyway post a screenshot of your setup - battery stats after some hours since boot up...

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I have android 2.2 and i have questions:
my battery is charged and used for only a couple of hours and sometimes the battery drains in like 4-6 hours. i dont even use it and brightness is always turned low and yet the battery seems to drain really fast.
second thing is when i pull out my battery to charge it my gadgets and aps start to malfunction and i have to go hit up the market to redownload all the apps and start all fr scratch. so now i'm backing up some of the info that the programs let me
most of the apps i use or just like skype twitter facebook and whatnot just the basics but somehow it keeps malfunctioning after i charge the battery its like doing a hard reset.
whats going on?
JAMM0N said:
I have android 2.2 and i have questions:
my battery is charged and used for only a couple of hours and sometimes the battery drains in like 4-6 hours. i dont even use it and brightness is always turned low and yet the battery seems to drain really fast.
second thing is when i pull out my battery to charge it my gadgets and aps start to malfunction and i have to go hit up the market to redownload all the apps and start all fr scratch. so now i'm backing up some of the info that the programs let me
most of the apps i use or just like skype twitter facebook and whatnot just the basics but somehow it keeps malfunctioning after i charge the battery its like doing a hard reset.
whats going on?
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Why are you pulling out the battery to charge it?
What rom and kernel are you running?
android 2.2
kernel v. 2.6.32.17-g9a2fc16
baseband v. 2.15.00.07.28
if you need anymore info i can give you no problems. it was just flashed or whatever to 2.2 i didn't do it myself i just got this phone like last week
For the battery draining issue its best to figure that out yourself using something like systempanel by nextapp. Buying it is worth it as you will be able to analyze what exactly is using up your battery. Nobody can tell you what really is draining your battery but you.
As for the pulling out the battery issue... are you powering down before you pull out the battery?
Sent from my ADR6300
Also... it might be possible that your battery draining is normal. The Inc came with a 1300mah battery which is ridiculous for a smartphone. Grab the 1500mah HTC OEM battery and it will be like any other smartphone.
Fits in the stock battery door too.
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yes. if i dont is that what is causing all my programs to malfunction?
does anyone suggest me flash to another rom i might need a bigger SD card too
i have 2 1800MAH or possibe 1500 and an 1800MAH
JAMM0N said:
yes. if i dont is that what is causing all my programs to malfunction?
does anyone suggest me flash to another rom i might need a bigger SD card too
i have 2 1800MAH or possibe 1500 and an 1800MAH
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Hmm... no you should be powering down first. Weird.
Are you rooted? Flash another ROM.
A bigger SD card is always nice...
I'm confused ... you already have bigger batteries? And not using it?
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i change out the batteries when the other one is running low.
i think i'm rooted. i have superuser permissions
yes a bigger SD card is a good idea. dont the roms go on SD cards?
It seems like something has gotten messed up along the way. I would go back completely to stock and start over. A problem like that sounds very weird.
The size of an SD card should not matter. You download the ROM and flash it. After you flash it you can delete the ROM on your SD card.
Yes.... if nothing works just go back to stock and work up from there.
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alright i'll get workin on it thanks. does anyone recommend a rom?
I would honestly use virtuous first as it's closest to stock and should be the most stable. Try to use just the ROM as is for at least a few hours or day to see if the problems still are occurring. If they are... time to start from scratch.
cyanogenmod 7 or lou's senseless. unless you are into sense then i don't know what you'd want
the only reason i think its suck the life out of my battery is all the constant updates. luckily i have 2 but then it takes like hours for the other one to charge. killing my battery faster than i can charge it -_-
JAMM0N said:
the only reason i think its suck the life out of my battery is all the constant updates. luckily i have 2 but then it takes like hours for the other one to charge. killing my battery faster than i can charge it -_-
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That doesn't sound right ... I definitely recommend systempanel if flashing a new ROM doesn't work and after a ruu.
Sent from my ADR6300

Idea 4 mod or whatever... Not big deal

Hi. I just got an idea about turning phone off when battery is drained.. why has the phone to turn off??? why he can't hibernate? turning on from hibernate is much faster i am sure that some dev know how to do it. I don't. and devs should import that script into their Sense HD roms.
m4jkee said:
Hi. I just got an idea about turning phone off when battery is drained.. why has the phone to turn off??? why he can't hibernate? turning on from hibernate is much faster i am sure that some dev know how to do it. I don't. and devs should import that script into their Sense HD roms.
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I get where you are coming from but even in hibernate mode the phone would use a little battery power to keep everything "ready to use" again once the phone comes out of hibernation - the small amount used would drain the battery further than it was designed to go safely and if you didn't catch it in time and your battery completely ran out of power -pop- dead battery with no recharge. Good idea but not really safe to do without having some spare batteries on hand
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I get where you are coming from but even in hibernate mode the phone would use a little battery power to keep everything "ready to use" again once the phone comes out of hibernation - the small amount used would drain the battery further than it was designed to go safely and if you didn't catch it in time and your battery completely ran out of power -pop- dead battery with no recharge. Good idea but not really safe to do without having some spare batteries on hand
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Thank you for explanation. i didn't know that if you drain your battery in hibernation, you actually kill that battery. what a shame, but i think, i can live with turning phone off with drained battery..
Your confusing suspend with hibernate, suspend would would drain battery(if the hardware supported it), hibernate wouldn't.
To suspend a device just enough power is used to keep the data stored in ram there( its lost on power off). In hibernation ram would be stored to sdcard, then the device is powered off, then restored on bootup.
Desire has about 500mb of ram, with a class 2 memory card it would take about 4 minutes (2mins for class 4) to restore on boot...ie not worth it.
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Just a note. My battery run out a few days back and when I put it on the charger it boot up like in 5 seconds. Using insertcoin 1.9.1
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In addition, the SD card would need to stay powered on to achieve cell refresh, as well as its controller and the power management IC on the SoC, so they'll still be drawing power. The CPU won't be able to shut down, only stay in a very low power mode with some of its cache banks still active. I don't know about the GPU/RAM. I don't think it would be suitable technically speaking (although the idea sounds beneficial).
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Huge battery drain

.Hello everyone,
Just got my G3 about 3 days ago, and so far the battery is going really bad for me.THis phone would consume the whole battery in just 6.5 hrs!!
I used to have Xiaomi Mi4 before it and it would easily make it the whole day -some times +18hr- on the same usage connections.
I've tried different roms and kernels, limited the CPU to 1.9GHz, set governor to powersave, set brightness to auto and then to 30% manual, and still all the same, nothing better! I don't play games or use huge apps, just facebook, whatsapp, 9chat, calls, and FaucClock.
On average, I lose +10% of the battery per hour, Is this normal for this device? The battery says it's 3000mAh but it's acting like it's 1450mAh!
UPDATE:
Yesterday I tried to drain the battery to 0% to charge it again by watching a Full HD movie. It consumed about 30% of the battery leaving me with 30%, that was on 02:48AM. Today I woke up at 9:00AM and there was 29% left, meaning it only consumed 1% in about 6hrs. using the phone would consume more than 5%/hr but the standby is getting really good and very stable. I'll be draining the battery and try to recharge it later hopefully it can get better than this.
ahmad.afef said:
Hello everyone,
Just got my G3 about 3 days ago, and so far the battery is going really bad for me.THis phone would consume the whole battery in just 6.5 hrs!!
I used to have Xiaomi Mi4 before it and it would easily make it the whole day -some times +18hr- on the same usage connections.
I've tried different roms and kernels, limited the CPU to 1.9GHz, set governor to powersave, set brightness to auto and then to 30% manual, and still all the same, nothing better! I don't play games or use huge apps, just facebook, whatsapp, 9chat, calls, and FaucClock.
On average, I lose +10% of the battery per hour, Is this normal for this device? The battery says it's 3000mAh but it's acting like it's 1450mAh!
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Check your wakelocks...
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Check your wakelocks...
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Thanks for the reply. I really don't know how to read it, so I just attached some pics, I hope they're useful for you.
I have the same, if not worse, battery drainage. I got my phone(new) yesterday. Just 40 minute ago o was charging it and after i plugged out o saw immediately how the battery was draining more like a % per minute . I looked in the the battery section to see that it'll stay on for 3 hours and 40 minutes. Now i'm letting it play on YouTube till the battery is empty-empty , do a recharge and if that is not the case, maybe i just have a faulty battery and hopefully not a faulty phone. Although i looked at the apps that were used in stand-by(over night) and i sow that Google services was using 16% battery in stand-by , something that i never had like that. Yesterday when my phone arrived it had already pre installed Lollipop 5.0 . After connecting to wi-fi the software updated once more with a small file, something like 120-160 mb, i'm not sure exactly. Now it says that it has the latest update - 20h . I'l do a few full discharge/charge cycles and if that doesn't solve the issue it must be the battery or the phone. Either way i hope i'll not end up returning the phone for testing , the though is already infuriating me a little.
Alexzander said:
I have the same, if not worse, battery drainage. I got my phone(new) yesterday. Just 40 minute ago o was charging it and after i plugged out o saw immediately how the battery was draining more like a % per minute . I looked in the the battery section to see that it'll stay on for 3 hours and 40 minutes. Now i'm letting it play on YouTube till the battery is empty-empty , do a recharge and if that is not the case, maybe i just have a faulty battery and hopefully not a faulty phone. Although i looked at the apps that were used in stand-by(over night) and i sow that Google services was using 16% battery in stand-by , something that i never had like that. Yesterday when my phone arrived it had already pre installed Lollipop 5.0 . After connecting to wi-fi the software updated once more with a small file, something like 120-160 mb, i'm not sure exactly. Now it says that it has the latest update - 20h . I'l do a few full discharge/charge cycles and if that doesn't solve the issue it must be the battery or the phone. Either way i hope i'll not end up returning the phone for testing , the though is already infuriating me a little.
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I just hope it's the first few days of the battery life and it would get better by time, but tbh this is the first time I see something like this!
I don't know if it helps but I had similar battery drain after I install a new update of Android. It happened after every update.
For me the solution was a full wipe.
After it I can reach ~2days with ~4hours SOT.
ahmad.afef said:
Thanks for the reply. I really don't know how to read it, so I just attached some pics, I hope they're useful for you.
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Use greenify messenger and whats up are causing all those wakelocks....
At the time i posted here(post #4) my battery was at around 60 percent playing YouTube for the first real drainage of battery science i've got my phone. Now it's at 12 % with 26 minutes estimated till complete drain. I mention i have the speaker on mute. If i had it on the drainage would've been a little faster. Anyway, after the drain i'll recharge the battery and let it overnight in stand by with the wi-fi on. Also the location will be enabled so the data connection even though it's somewhat deactivated by the wi-fi on status. I enabled also bluetooth and NFC although those are more dormant than active. It'll be setted just as i'm using it daily . Now it's 12:14 AM Eastern Europe time. I'll post here the finishing time of charging/letting it in stand by. In the morning (my morning time ) I'll post again the battery percent. I'll use the phone normally with a little bit of everything . Wi-fi will be on all the time, so the voice network and from time to time i'll "simulate" a carrier 4g/LTE data only usage(YouTube, FaceBook and Mail). I'll post againt the time when the battery will be depleted completely.
It's now 01:12 and the battery is empty. I'll charge it and talk to you in the morning.
Check the SD card. do you still have a battry drain if the sd card is in the Phone?
i had the same problem. i toke the sd card out and my Phone was normal again and no overheated Phone.
i formatted my card to NTFS and it worked.
padarnor said:
I don't know if it helps but I had similar battery drain after I install a new update of Android. It happened after every update.
For me the solution was a full wipe.
After it I can reach ~2days with ~4hours SOT.
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Thanks for the reply. I've tried a full wipe more than one, still the same.
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Use greenify messenger and whats up are causing all those wakelocks....
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Alexzander said:
At the time i posted here(post #4) my battery was at around 60 percent playing YouTube for the first real drainage of battery science i've got my phone. Now it's at 12 % with 26 minutes estimated till complete drain. I mention i have the speaker on mute. If i had it on the drainage would've been a little faster. Anyway, after the drain i'll recharge the battery and let it overnight in stand by with the wi-fi on. Also the location will be enabled so the data connection even though it's somewhat deactivated by the wi-fi on status. I enabled also bluetooth and NFC although those are more dormant than active. It'll be setted just as i'm using it daily . Now it's 12:14 AM Eastern Europe time. I'll post here the finishing time of charging/letting it in stand by. In the morning (my morning time ) I'll post again the battery percent. I'll use the phone normally with a little bit of everything . Wi-fi will be on all the time, so the voice network and from time to time i'll "simulate" a carrier 4g/LTE data only usage(YouTube, FaceBook and Mail). I'll post againt the time when the battery will be depleted completely.
It's now 01:12 and the battery is empty. I'll charge it and talk to you in the morning.
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Cradlebmw said:
Check the SD card. do you still have a battry drain if the sd card is in the Phone?
i had the same problem. i toke the sd card out and my Phone was normal again and no overheated Phone.
i formatted my card to NTFS and it worked.
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I don't have an SD card.
You have stock firmware?? And try to install os monitor and it tells you witch program is using the most!
On stock rooted firmware
I also don't have an sd card, and of course i did a phone reset before recharging. I'm getting a little worried dough. Last night it finished charging after 1 hour and 50 minutes. I immediately started tu setup the phone with the google account , did a google restore . Also i forgot to tell that i'm on Orange Romania and i do have some bloatware but i disabled all of it just to make sure that those apps won't interfere with my test. Already my battery was at 85% before going to sleep. I mention that my google restore does not take to much time . When i woke up 10.45 AM my time( now is 11.23 AM) the battery was at 75 percent. I stayed a little on YouTube and just answered a 30 second call and it's down to 67 % now. I am getting aggravated. I'll call Orange support to tell the about the situation and i'll ask them if i can firstly try to fix my problem alone by rooting the phone. If they don't like the idea of rooting my phone i'll try a few more charges/discharges .
Install OS monitor!
I'll try it. Thanks! By the way now the time is 15:56 and the battery is at 66%. So it lost 2 percent in 4 and a half hours(stand-by).
Ps: now that i woke it up for writing this post, it's at 63%.

Really strange battery drain

Hello there,
I've a new G4 since last friday and I'm experiencing a really strange battery drain.
Let's say I will charge my phone to 100% and than leave it idle, it will start discharging really slowly with all syncs active (for example last night it lost 2% in 8 hours). That's cool.
The problem is that as soon as I start using it again it will drain really fast, like 1% every 2 minutes. What is strange is that after start using it it will drain fast (1% every 10 minutes) even if i will let it idle again, so screen off and same operations as the 2% lost during 8h in the night.
At the moment I'm in Germany and I've experienced same drain ratio under good and bad cell signal and wifi. My model is H815. I'm not rooted so I cannot see good statistics in BBS.
I've already tried a factory reset.
Thanks everyone fo the help
I would start with checking the battery information inside settings. In there it will give the biggest battery drains. If you're lucky, you'll see something else up top that is not Android System, Android OS, or the screen.
Muffyone said:
Hello there,
I've a new G4 since last friday and I'm experiencing a really strange battery drain.
Let's say I will charge my phone to 100% and than leave it idle, it will start discharging really slowly with all syncs active (for example last night it lost 2% in 8 hours). That's cool.
The problem is that as soon as I start using it again it will drain really fast, like 1% every 2 minutes. What is strange is that after start using it it will drain fast (1% every 10 minutes) even if i will let it idle again, so screen off and same operations as the 2% lost during 8h in the night.
At the moment I'm in Germany and I've experienced same drain ratio under good and bad cell signal and wifi. My model is H815. I'm not rooted so I cannot see good statistics in BBS.
I've already tried a factory reset.
Thanks everyone fo the help
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Try disabled sync while using others app to see the outcome
I have the same problem. That's why I have a spare battery + charging cradle + power bank. Maybe I'll need to flash again since my device is not acting normally.
See my post and screenshots here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62982669&postcount=942
spartan268 said:
I would start with checking the battery information inside settings. In there it will give the biggest battery drains. If you're lucky, you'll see something else up top that is not Android System, Android OS, or the screen.
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faizalotai said:
Try disabled sync while using others app to see the outcome
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bel57 said:
I have the same problem. That's why I have a spare battery + charging cradle + power bank. Maybe I'll need to flash again since my device is not acting normally.
See my post and screenshots here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62982669&postcount=942
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Today it seems better, only stuff I've changed is that I've disabled the quick cirlce cover since I don't have it but I don't think is related. At the momento I'm at 50% after 7h of wich 2h and 15min of screen time. Seems good to me.
I will go on testing during the weekend and I will report back. I hope the culprits are not rocket player (and mediaserver sice my music is on the SD card) but I've noticed a higher battery drain when using it. (today I haven't that much)
Those are some very good stats so far. Poised to hit 4h on the dot for SoT which is considered the expected average
I had to use a different launcher rather than the stock one and also a quick circle app and that was it
Muffyone said:
Today it seems better, only stuff I've changed is that I've disabled the quick cirlce cover since I don't have it but I don't think is related. At the momento I'm at 50% after 7h of wich 2h and 15min of screen time. Seems good to me.
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It is, if you were to continue you would be looking at 12h+ of run time.
I will go on testing during the weekend and I will report back. I hope the culprits are not rocket player (and mediaserver sice my music is on the SD card) but I've noticed a higher battery drain when using it. (today I haven't that much)
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i think that is just reindexing of content on the sd card. It is temporary. It could also mean that your sd card is going bad and more reads were required.
One Twelve said:
i think that is just reindexing of content on the sd card. It is temporary. It could also mean that your sd card is going bad and more reads were required.
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I've tested the card and seems good, It's strange that is still indexing it, I've the phone since one week now.
The charge after the one that seemed ok was totally bad. I'll investigate more
Thanks everyone
If you add files or remove them then i think it triggers indexing. Leave it for a while it should go away after some time.
if it does not try a different card. I only use the red sandisk class 10 cards, these give the least problems.
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I've tested the card and seems good, It's strange that is still indexing it, I've the phone since one week now.
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This of course is way, way too long.
Usually this is because of a corrupt/unreadable/unknown file on the external SD. Copy all files to PC, format the card, restore files. The media scanner will now end it's process in a matter of minutes :good:
So I've investigated a bit during the past few days, those are the results:
- Media server is not anymore keeping the device awake that much
- It seems that RocketPalyer is using a lot of CPU compared to what it was doing on my Note 3.
- Battery drain still seems a bit random, yesterday for example i got 16 hours with 4h and 3min of screen time, today I'm already at 56% after 5h and only 1h and 20min of screen time (I'ìve not changed what I did with the device that much, and I'm under same network and wifi as yesterday at work)
I think that if I want to understand why sometimes is acting weird I will have to root and use wakelock detectors, btw now that I saw that the device is not faulty (I was able to get good battery time on some days) I'm not afraid that much anymore to root it.
Thanks everyone
Muffyone said:
- Battery drain still seems a bit random, yesterday for example i got 16 hours with 4h and 3min of screen time, today I'm already at 56% after 5h and only 1h and 20min of screen time (I'ìve not changed what I did with the device that much, and I'm under same network and wifi as yesterday at work)
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you have normal sot. 4-5hsot with wifi.
have been trying to figure out keep awakes with people that can't get more than half as much.
I think that if I want to understand why sometimes is acting weird I will have to root and use wakelock detectors, btw now that I saw that the device is not faulty (I was able to get good battery time on some days) I'm not afraid that much anymore to root it.
Thanks everyone
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There is a way to see wake locks without root.
One Twelve said:
you have normal sot. 4-5hsot with wifi.
have been trying to figure out keep awakes with people that can't get more than half as much.
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Yes 4-5h sot is when is working fine, but sometimes I get 2.5-3, that's when it annoys me
Muffyone said:
Yes 4-5h sot is when is working fine, but sometimes I get 2.5-3, that's when it annoys me
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something to do with gps ?
check your android system and see whether it has any gps minutes on it that should not be there if you weren't using gps.
Muffyone said:
Yes 4-5h sot is when is working fine, but sometimes I get 2.5-3, that's when it annoys me
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I get 2.5 to 3 on work days.
I get spotty signal at my desk and the skytrain makes my phone go on a major drain

Question Battery Draining Faster then One Would Expected

Hi,
It seems my Z Fold 4 is draining battery charge faster then I perceive it should be. I lose 1% as soon as I take it off the charger, that to on standby. I have put the apps that are most in use by me under deep sleep, brightness less than 50% (around 30%), Always On Display off. However, the battery is draining out fast. I had to charge the phone twice today (just to add, I have set the max charge limit to 85%). Is there a way to optimise the battery to output better performance?
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Likely a cloud* app like Google backup Transport doing it. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services as Backup Transport is a dependency of it. See what it does.
Try in safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps as a cause. All Samsung's shoud be optimized.
*no SD card makes you dependent on cloud storage which uses a lot of battery. The other option is OTG flashsticks for storage. A raw deal. Google wants to force you to need their cloud services. Same crap MS did years ago.
This is one reason I run 2 N10+'s; one has 1.5tb of storage. The only cloud app I use is Gmail for security reasons.
FalconFulcrum said:
Hi,
It seems my Z Fold 4 is draining battery charge faster then I perceive it should be. I lose 1% as soon as I take it off the charger, that to on standby. I have put the apps that are most in use by me under deep sleep, brightness less than 50% (around 30%), Always On Display off. However, the battery is draining out fast. I had to charge the phone twice today (just to add, I have set the max charge limit to 85%). Is there a way to optimise the battery to output better performance?
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I find the standby on the ZF4 to be one of the best I've had. Overnight it can go 12 hours and only be down 4 percent. A quick question - did you transfer data from your old phone to the ZF4?
ggrant3876 said:
I find the standby on the ZF4 to be one of the best I've had. Overnight it can go 12 hours and only be down 4 percent. A quick question - did you transfer data from your old phone to the ZF4?
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Hi, thanks for the reply.
I probably lose 5% to 6% on standby overnight. But when I start using the phone it starts to discharge quickly (from my perspective), and no I did not transfer anything from my old phone (Note 8).
FalconFulcrum said:
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I probably lose 5% to 6% on standby overnight. But when I start using the phone it starts to discharge quickly (from my perspective), and no I did not transfer anything from my old phone (Note 8).
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I've not noticed a quick discharge even while using the phone and I'm a moderate to heavy user. You could download GSAM Battery Monitor Pro and with a couple adb commands enable "app sucker" that will tell you exactly what apps are the ones eating your battery. You can do the same with what is already on your phone but IMHO GSAM is much better.
ggrant3876 said:
I've not noticed a quick discharge even while using the phone and I'm a moderate to heavy user. You could download GSAM Battery Monitor Pro and with a couple adb commands enable "app sucker" that will tell you exactly what apps are the ones eating your battery. You can do the same with what is already on your phone but IMHO GSAM is much better.
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The only apps with high usage are YouTube, which I use regularly on daily basis, and Samsung's UI.
blackhawk said:
Likely a cloud* app like Google backup Transport doing it. Try temporarily disabling Google play Services as Backup Transport is a dependency of it. See what it does.
Try in safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps as a cause. All Samsung's shoud be optimized.
*no SD card makes you dependent on cloud storage which uses a lot of battery. The other option is OTG flashsticks for storage. A raw deal. Google wants to force you to need their cloud services. Same crap MS did years ago.
This is one reason I run 2 N10+'s; one has 1.5tb of storage. The only cloud app I use is Gmail for security reasons.
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No SD card really doesn't make us rely on cloud storage, having a 1tb version available should work for most people and thats what i bought with my s22 ultra and fold 4. I certainly wouldn't complain if they brought it back though, still have my note 20 ultra and its handy to have.
force70 said:
No SD card really doesn't make us rely on cloud storage, having a 1tb version available should work for most people and thats what i bought with my s22 ultra and fold 4. I certainly wouldn't complain if they brought it back though, still have my note 20 ultra and its handy to have.
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A boot loop, system crash, forced factory reset will make you wish that data had been on a SD card. Worse to reload 400+gb of data takes hours instead of slamming the card in. I need 1tb for data, don't want apps crowding it out.
Everything I need for a full reload including installable apps are on my SD card. No PC or internet needed.
Dual drive machines are the only way to roll. The SD card is the data drive; all critical data goes here. Only apps, the download and the DCIM* folders go on internal memory. Then the data drive is regularly and redundantly backed up to hdds.
*backed to the data drive regularly
Possibly 120ghz refresh?? As long as I'm not constantly use mine its pretty good on its battery, the Hotspot does some damage tho so if I can I started using USB tethering, but there could be something with the ui5 sense I'm constantly cleaning my ram!!
blackhawk said:
A boot loop, system crash, forced factory reset will make you wish that data had been on a SD card. Worse to reload 400+gb of data takes hours instead of slamming the card in. I need 1tb for data, don't want apps crowding it out.
Everything I need for a full reload including installable apps are on my SD card. No PC or internet needed.
Dual drive machines are the only way to roll. The SD card is the data drive; all critical data goes here. Only apps, the download and the DCIM* folders go on internal memory. Then the data drive is regularly and redundantly backed up to hdds.
*backed to the data drive regularly
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Totally agree with most of that but the sad reailty is there are very few flagships with sd slots now. I use a portable SSD for backups which i do weekly so i wouldn't lose much if my phone died. I have 530gb or so of data on it and with the ssd speeds only takes maybe an hour or so to transfer. Still id love to have a 512gb sd card AND 1tb of internal storage lol
force70 said:
Totally agree with most of that but the sad reailty is there are very few flagships with sd slots now. I use a portable SSD for backups which i do weekly so i wouldn't lose much if my phone died. I have 530gb or so of data on it and with the ssd speeds only takes maybe an hour or so to transfer. Still id love to have a 512gb sd card AND 1tb of internal storage lol
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That's one reason why I'm running two N10+'s.
500gb internal plus a 1tb SD card on one, the other is 256gb internal. They get at least 11 hours SOT, up to 13 hours. One is running on Pie the other 10; no active scoped storage. They run like bats out of hell. Just well balanced work horses with an excellent form factor; more importantly they fulfill their mission. Something Samsung seems to have forgotten how to do.
In 10 years I've never been so displeased with Samsung's current flagship product line for 3 years running now. So I just keep running the N10+'s; bought the second one a year ago. Don't have much faith in Samsung anymore and the lack of a solid flagship to effectively replace to N10+ led to that decision. That decision was couple to Google Android 11 being a dog. 12 is worse and 13 looks like another fubar as well.
Maybe in another 3 years... sadly if I had to buy a new flagship phone today, it still be a N10+ Snapdragon. Same experience with the now discontinued Buds+; nothing in Samsung's current Buds lineup is a drop in equal replacement. Everything Samsung now has seems to be a battery hog. That's not progress.
i don't know about you guys, but i am loving my Fold 4.
the camera is a little bit tricky to use and i feel like i am missing some tips and tricks.... but in the end... i am glad that i got this phone.
FalconFulcrum said:
Hi,
It seems my Z Fold 4 is draining battery charge faster then I perceive it should be. I lose 1% as soon as I take it off the charger, that to on standby. I have put the apps that are most in use by me under deep sleep, brightness less than 50% (around 30%), Always On Display off. However, the battery is draining out fast. I had to charge the phone twice today (just to add, I have set the max charge limit to 85%). Is there a way to optimise the battery to output better performance?
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Im having the same issue like yours. I lose 1% after I unplugged the cable charge and became 84%
Unplugged 5AM used for music for 1 hour lose 5% then left idle for 5 hours drains from 95% to 80% nothing seems to be draining it wifi etc off all apps closed sleeping apps etc.
cooldude20000 said:
Unplugged 5AM used for music for 1 hour lose 5% then left idle for 5 hours drains from 95% to 80% nothing seems to be draining it wifi etc off all apps closed sleeping apps etc.
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Just updated to Android 13 UI 5.0 about a week ago and was leary of the update because of all the problems with BT and battery I've read about. My experience is completely different, not a single issue to report. I can unplug the phone when I go to bed and in the morning after returning from the gym approximately 10 hours it has only dropped 4 percent. Just about the same as Android 12 or maybe a little better.
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Just updated to Android 13 UI 5.0 about a week ago and was leary of the update because of all the problems with BT and battery I've read about. My experience is completely different, not a single issue to report. I can unplug the phone when I go to bed and in the morning after returning from the gym approximately 10 hours it has only dropped 4 percent. Just about the same as Android 12 or maybe a little better.
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I had the blutooth issues with my Tesla. The January security update fixed my issues at least.
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I had the blutooth issues with my Tesla. The January security update fixed my issues at least.
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I got Android 13 and the January security update together. Using a Samsung unlocked on the T-Mobile network and didn’t get Android 13 until more than a month after it was released.
iganster said:
Im having the same issue like yours. I lose 1% after I unplugged the cable charge and became 84%
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I resolved this issue by uninstalling Samsung bloatware. Don't know which one actually helped. Now the phone holds 100% charge for significant duration but only when idle. Anything major like a phone call would drain 1% to 2% - depending on the duration of the call - of battery. Overnight it loses about 4% to 5% with Wifi on.
Can you mention which bloatware needs to uninstall in order to save battery?
iganster said:
Can you mention which bloatware needs to uninstall in order to save battery?
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I've debloated quite a few with no issues at all. Here's my lists.
Samsung Fold 4 Debloat
Hey guys has anyone used "ADB AppControl" to debloat app/programs on the Fold 4 yet or even tried this link with the lists they name to debloat...
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