on older devices, i always had a passcode and twrp never asked, is there a way i can get rid of it and still keep my passcode, thank u
decrypt the phone. which need custom kernel. I think you lost more than you gain.
i am using SimpleGX v1.1 right now, what do i need to do, thank u
anyone?
I don't understand either, I've never had this issue with twrp on any other device but since it's out of my realm of expertise, I just gotta roll with it.
Bradl79 said:
on older devices, i always had a passcode and twrp never asked, is there a way i can get rid of it and still keep my passcode, thank u
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
on older devices, you were probably not encrypted, but had pin/pw. these are encrypted and unless you decrypt data you cant do what you are asking for.
I was still encrypted, I have never encrypted the oneplus one, 3 and 3t, none of those ever asked for pw, but I will give it a try, I just need to format Data in twrp and reinstall the OS with a custom kernel? Thank u
Related
I am new to the nexus 7.
Can I root without unlocking the broader?
What is the side effect of unlocking the boot loader?
Is there existing method to root without installing customer recovery?
Thanks
macaumen said:
I am new to the nexus 7.
Can I root without unlocking the broader?
What is the side effect of unlocking the boot loader?
Is there existing method to root without installing customer recovery?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is currently no known way to root without unlocking the bootloader and using a custom recovery.
Unlocking the bootloader allows you more control over the tablet. Specifically to install custom recovery, ROMs, etc. Most of the benefits from an unlocked bootloader are things you do from a custom recovery, not through the bootloader itself. The only real negative 'side effects' are that you lose some of the safety benefits, since you can do dangerous things if you don't know what you are doing, and that it may void your warranty.
So, if want to root, I must unlock bootloader?
Well I still get ota with bootloader unlocked?
macaumen said:
So, if want to root, I must unlock bootloader?
Well I still get ota with bootloader unlocked?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Yes
2. Technically you can, but not recommend; just wait for the rooted stock and flash that.
teh roxxorz said:
1. Yes
2. Technically you can, but not recommend; just wait for the rooted stock and flash that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Regarding your #2, there is no reason not to unlock the bootloader to get OTA updates. The only thing that breaks OTA is custom recovery.
phonic said:
Regarding your #2, there is no reason not to unlock the bootloader to get OTA updates. The only thing that breaks OTA is custom recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Completely correct. I just said not to do it, cause he seems less experienced, and from my experience, they get freaked out afterwards trying to put it back on. So trying to save him a headache, lol.
I recommend staying stock unless you absolutely need a specific root required app.
Right now there isn't a reason for root access except titanium backup.
I do recommend, however, to go ahead and unlock. It will wipe your device including personal data, so might as well get that out of the way now before you risk losing something important.
You can easily flash a custom recovery and root anytime after that, but I would wait until knowledgeable devs figure out the device a little more first.
Sent from Nexus 7 FHD from XDA Premium HD
player911 said:
I recommend staying stock unless you absolutely need a specific root required app.
Right now there isn't a reason for root access except titanium backup.
I do recommend, however, to go ahead and unlock. It will wipe your device including personal data, so might as well get that out of the way now before you risk losing something important.
You can easily flash a custom recovery and root anytime after that, but I would wait until knowledgeable devs figure out the device a little more first.
Sent from Nexus 7 FHD from XDA Premium HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure why you would suggest people not to root now. You mentioned a very good reason to do so - Titanium Backup. Not only is it useful for backups in general, but it's also a lifesaver for copying apps and their data from one device, like someone's old N7, to their new N7.
While I would certainly agree that people should wait before flashing custom ROMs, kernels, hacks, etc., nothing is going to change with rooting your N7 today versus a week or month from now. All the pros and cons will still be the same.
phonic said:
I'm not sure why you would suggest people not to root now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They guy doesn't need root. He also doesn't understand root. So his chances of softbricking are good, and then, instead of us trying to talk him out of rooting, we now have to talk him through how to fix it.... .. Can we count on you to provide this support since your are so OK with him rooting now?
tweaked said:
They guy doesn't need root. He also doesn't understand root. So his chances of softbricking are good, and then, instead of us trying to talk him out of rooting, we now have to talk him through how to fix it.... .. Can we count on your to provide this support since your are so OK with him rooting now?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Neither you nor I have any idea what he needs or doesn't. He hasn't said anything other than asking some basic questions about the process. There are numerous guides on here that walk people through rooting step by step. There are also a handful of people who have soft bricked their device and asked for and received help. And yes, I have assisted people with similar issues in the past. Everyone on this board has at one point in their lives screwed something up - that's how we learn.
In any case, my point was that there is no clear reason for him not to do it if he wants to. The device is pretty forgiving unless he kills the bootloader.
My OnePlus 3 was lost/(more likely stolen) a few days back. It wasn't insured so I have accepted the fact that I probably won't get it back. I was then researching things that I could have done to prevent it from happening, and came across an app called Cerberus.
Cerberus seems to be a really cool app because you can do stuff like activate data via SMS, so if the thief disables it you can re-enable it. I know that they could also take out the SIM or clean flash a ROM, and then you're basically screwed unless there is somehow a Wi-Fi connection. If you integrate it as a system/app, it should survive a factory reset. And AFAIK, if the SIM is still in it it automatically connects to data on reboot so should be able to get info from cerberus' servers.
Is it possible to get a ROM zip, put the .apk to system/app, add cerberus_conf.xml from system/etc and put it into the stock ROM zip so it will always survive factory data reset.
By getting the .apk from their website and the cerberus_conf.xml from a temporary TWRP recovery or rooting temporarily just to make sure it is there and/or to gain access to it.
Then when that is done, re-zip the rom, relock bootloader, clean flash the ROM via adb sideload. <--- Is this part possible???
Because it is based on stock rom, would this work on a locked bootloader without root?
(I still want to use Android Pay)
I understand due to the nature of the cerberus_conf.xml file it will only work for personal use but is it theoretically possible?
Also, I haven't fully used Cerberus yet but it sounds like it could be worth it/ a lifesaver (metaphorically).
Basically the question I am asking is whether or not you can make small modifications to the system/app folder and still rezip and install successfully without having to unlock bootloader?
AlvieOP said:
Basically the question I am asking is whether or not you can make small modifications to the system/app folder and still rezip and install successfully without having to unlock bootloader?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don’t really think so because If u lock bootloader on anything modified then either locking will fail or either brick ur device
Edit: after thinking a bit it may be possible but to know that it works you or someone else has to do it and report.
I once met a guy here who locked his bootloader on modified rom and his device got bricked but in case of semi stockish rom it may be possible
Any furthur insight will be helpful from the community
Dupleshwar said:
I don’t really think so because If u lock bootloader on anything modified then either locking will fail or either brick ur device
Edit: after thinking a bit it may be possible but to know that it works you or someone else has to do it and report.
I once met a guy here who locked his bootloader on modified rom and his device got bricked but in case of semi stockish rom it may be possible
Any furthur insight will be helpful from the community
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I know that a custom ROM will brick it, but what if it is just one extra file in system?
Does anyone else know?
some help pls?
That depends on what you are trying to do. You can use fastboot commands in bootloader-fastboot mode; which will still work even if OS and recovery are not accessible. But anything more (such as adb, storage access) you will need at least recovery.
What is the current condition of the phone, what were you trying to do, or want to do, etc.?
redpoint73 said:
That depends on what you are trying to do. You can use fastboot commands in bootloader-fastboot mode; which will still work even if OS and recovery are not accessible. But anything more (such as adb, storage access) you will need at least recovery.
What is the current condition of the phone, what were you trying to do, or want to do, etc.?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for willingness to help,i was already solving the problem.I went to a specialized server,and they repair it.
morrientes99 said:
Thanks for willingness to help,i was already solving the problem.I went to a specialized server,and they repair it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's too bad. You probably spent money to fix something we could have helped you with, for free.
redpoint73 said:
That's too bad. You probably spent money to fix something we could have helped you with, for free.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
was not so bad..i was also replacing the battery and usb connector,so now looks like new..unfortunately they didnt install Android 7.0,but im afraid to try to do it
morrientes99 said:
unfortunately they didnt install Android 7.0,but im afraid to try to do it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like you haven't modded the phone before? No need to be afraid in my opinion. You won't brick (or otherwise damage) the device by unlocking the bootloader, installing custom recovery, and flashing a custom ROM. And the process is almost entirely reversible, with the slight exception of the fact that the bootloader will only ever say UNLOCKED or RELOCKED; versus LOCKED (stock condition). But this is almost entirely irrelevant, as RELOCKED is functionally the same as LOCKED, aside from the possibility that RELOCKED voids the warranty (indicates the phone was bootloader unlocked) but the huge majority of M8 devices don't have warranty at this point, as the phone is going on 3 years old.
Just be sure to properly read and understand the process before you start, don't use outdated methods, backup any personal data before bootloader unlock, and be sure to make a backup of your current stock ROM before flashing the new ROM. Also understand how to recover from problems, such as restoring a TWRP backup, etc.
Do the necessary due diligence before you start, and modding the phone will go just fine.
Hi
My phone is unlocked and using latest experience OS rom and using franco kernal, rooted. It has may security patch.
I want to order something online using my phone, is it safe to use my master card or if my card can be stolen?
It should be generally safe to do. I don't see where your paranoia sources from, though.
F4uzan said:
It should be generally safe to do. I don't see where your paranoia sources from, though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, i never bought something online before , just wanted to make sure using custom rom doesnt make my phone unsecure.
ironshadow2 said:
Well, i never bought something online before , just wanted to make sure using custom rom doesnt make my phone unsecure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It makes a phone "less" secure, but I think if your phone physically gets in the hands of a bad person, you can assume they could get to your stuff if they like.
For example, if you have TWRP, make a backup of a rom and forgot to turn off the screen unlock method and then restore that rom, you'll see that your password or pattern or whatever is not accepted.
So what you can do is go to TWRP and then delete the few files that control that and on the next boot, your phone is no more locked. It is a very easy thing to do, and I did it a few times myself.
As always, it is a choice we make. I personnaly have absolutely nothing worth anything to anyone in my phone, and if I lose it I just would change my google password and all is good, but if one has important info, probably rooting/custom recovery is not the best of ideas.
Anyone with better knowledge can tell me if I'm wrong, but that's how I see it
i'm planning on unlocking the bootloader to get a custom os on it.
i haven't updated the phone since i got it, is it ok for me to update it or should i leave it and wait until i get custom os on it?
testask123 said:
i'm planning on unlocking the bootloader to get a custom os on it.
i haven't updated the phone since i got it, is it ok for me to update it or should i leave it and wait until i get custom os on it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I literally just got the phone 2 days ago and I already updated the phone to 12.5.5 "enhanced version" but I didn't see anywhere before updating that it'll be a problem to root after updating. My only problem is that 168 hours wait till I can unlock the bootloader anyone know how to bypass??
Supracer said:
I literally just got the phone 2 days ago and I already updated the phone to 12.5.5 "enhanced version" but I didn't see anywhere before updating that it'll be a problem to root after updating. My only problem is that 168 hours wait till I can unlock the bootloader anyone know how to bypass??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No there is no way it sucks. Just a heads up twrp doesn't restore backups due to the a/b slots set up and you won't see much saying it doesn't. The phone is really easy to mess up and soft brick so have a PC and stock firmware with miflash ready to go
Techguy777 said:
No there is no way it sucks. Just a heads up twrp doesn't restore backups due to the a/b slots set up and you won't see much saying it doesn't. The phone is really easy to mess up and soft brick so have a PC and stock firmware with miflash ready to go
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Even though I have 10+ years of rooting and flashing etc and every phone I have had including my families phones have been rooted by me, it's great to get some advice from experienced users! Thank you so much! I see orange fox has been recently made for the f3, probably I'll check that out and see if the backups can be restored
Thank you so much for the info!
Supracer said:
Even though I have 10+ years of rooting and flashing etc and every phone I have had including my families phones have been rooted by me, it's great to get some advice from experienced users! Thank you so much! I see orange fox has been recently made for the f3, probably I'll check that out and see if the backups can be restored
Thank you so much for the info!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem I've already tried the latest orange fox from 2 days ago and no backups can't be restored. No TWRP on any device can restore slot a slot b backups. Restore is dead until the people that make TWRP figure out how to do it
Techguy777 said:
No problem I've already tried the latest orange fox from 2 days ago and no backups can't be restored. No TWRP on any device can restore slot a slot b backups. Restore is dead until the people that make TWRP figure out how to do it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just to clarify
its ok to update the phone, it doesn't prevent bootloader unlocking?
backups can't be used to restore prev data, correct?
testask123 said:
just to clarify
its ok to update the phone, it doesn't prevent bootloader unlocking?
backups can't be used to restore prev data, correct?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is correct and I understand why you asked I asked the same thing because on Samsung it's costed me kernels by updating without knowing. Only get ready for an extremely difficult time trying to ask questions or get any type of help from people on this device. There's dozens of rom, kernels, and about 4 custom recoveries now and no one and mean no one will answer questions with any real information. They will just say stuff like yes if that most times. I'm a big believer in helping people because I spend all day online why can't I answer a few questions
Techguy777 said:
That is correct and I understand why you asked I asked the same thing because on Samsung it's costed me kernels by updating without knowing. Only get ready for an extremely difficult time trying to ask questions or get any type of help from people on this device. There's dozens of rom, kernels, and about 4 custom recoveries now and no one and mean no one will answer questions with any real information. They will just say stuff like yes if that most times. I'm a big believer in helping people because I spend all day online why can't I answer a few questions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i'm going to assume u have first hand experience with this so i'll trust you, thanks.
for now im going to update the phone and unlock the bootloader later
Techguy777 said:
That is correct and I understand why you asked I asked the same thing because on Samsung it's costed me kernels by updating without knowing. Only get ready for an extremely difficult time trying to ask questions or get any type of help from people on this device. There's dozens of rom, kernels, and about 4 custom recoveries now and no one and mean no one will answer questions with any real information. They will just say stuff like yes if that most times. I'm a big believer in helping people because I spend all day online why can't I answer a few questions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I guess the xda community isn't like what it used to be.... Thanks for at least keeping the spirit to help out around here