With other HTC phones e.g. HTC Desire HD there was a significant reduction in camera quality for non-sense ROMs. Is this also the case with the M8? I gather this was because the phone had an image processing chip for which the libraries were only available in Sense-based ROMs.
I'm keen to install a CM or AOSP based ROM but just wondering whether there is a reduction in camera quality.
As in literal photo quality there's a very little difference IMO.
The main problem is that duo camera is not working, so no fancy bokeh effects with it anymore. 60fps and slowmo recording also don't work.
For a long problem also there wasn't a camera app that would let you change iso, exposition time, manual zoom. Mostly just point and shoot. However, ckpv5 made a working app so it's not a problem anymore.
If you care about camera and recording quality then you shouldn't be using a m8 in the first place Overall you should be satisfied with camera on los and aosp roms.
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Hey all, I've wondered this for a while - Does the quality of pictures change depending on the version of Android/what camera app you are using? Or is that entirely hardware dependent?
For instance - I am using Pure's 3.0 ROM, which is awesome, and the camera quality is the same as I would expect from any GB ROM. But would something like ICS employ some new tricks via post processing or something that would result in better pictures?
Just curious.
Anyone?
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I don't believe the ROM will have any effect on your image quality. The only thing that would change the picture quality would be a camera app such as HDR Camera.
I haven't done any scientific testing. But I have found the CM camera to be a little better than the stock Sense camera, but without as many features like face detection. However it also has a "deblur" ISO setting that allows the auto ISO to extend past 400, up to 800 without having to set it yourself. Auto ISO in Sense only seems to go to 400 without you having to manually set it in the camera settings. Otherwise it's more dependent on the sensor (ISO performance, BSI), lens, and the aperture (depth of field, better low light performance). I would love to have the camera out of the One S/X or even the iPhone 4S. But the Incredible's isn't bad for when it was made.
Hy everybody,
I can't bear Sense any longer (multitasking is crap, everything is full of scam etc...)
Tried out some AOSP rom's and you can't come back, even for the cam...
So here is my question, is there a camera app out there with the same features ? (taking pics during filming, rapid burst shots to select the best one)
Thank you very much
ChriKn said:
Hy everybody,
I can't bear Sense any longer (multitasking is crap, everything is full of scam etc...)
Tried out some AOSP rom's and you can't come back, even for the cam...
So here is my question, is there a camera app out there with the same features ? (taking pics during filming, rapid burst shots to select the best one)
Thank you very much
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I don't really think there is a camera that has any of the advanced features of the Sense camera. The Sense camera was built for the camera in this phone, so it can utilize all the features. Camera Zoom FX has some effects, I hear people like lgcamera too.
I know what you mean though. I'd love a non-Sense ROM, but I don't want to give up the camera. The camera is a very important part of the phone to me.
There are ROMs that are mostly AOSP while retaining some parts of the Sense framework.
JDR0iD_eXoDiZeD is one example, and it has the Sense camera app.
The only problem with most of these camera apps is that they produce images with too much noise (at least on the HOX).
Camera ICS + is good for pics.
Nothing beats LGCamera as far as recording videos is concerned.
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I have:
- ICS+ camera (for pictures and video)
- LG Camera (for pictures and very good for video)
- Camera FV-5 (for picture with advanced/professional settings)
- Shot Control (for picture with advanced/professional settings)
- Pro Capture (for picture with lot of settings and burst mode)
Does AOSP Camera kill quality? I like CM but I like also good pictures quality...
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I've never found AOSP to kill quality, the only difference if the ratio of the image compared with Sense.
It's not as good as the Sense camera as it doesn't make use of the image sense chip. Sense version is optimised.
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I think the panorama function is better in the aosp camera
Colours and details are often much less prominent in the AOSP camera. I've done my own comparisons and the Sense camera has better white balance in photos, though details remain mostly the same. Some AOSP ROMs have very grainy camera quality though. When it comes to video, Sense ROMs record MUCH better footage with more accurate colours and much more detail, frame rates remain similar though. To capture photos with better colours when using the AOSP camera, you often need to manually change the white balance as the "auto" setting isn't very effective for getting realistic looking shots.
The Sense camera is also faster at opening up and at shooting and processing panorama photos. The Sense camera also has far better touch (and auto) focus, the AOSP camera is often difficult to focus for close ups but the Sense camera almost always focuses correctly. Additionally, the AOSP camera has somewhat fixed focus for video recording, where auto focus still sort of works but you can't touch the screen to focus because this takes photos during recording (this is how this feature was implemented on the AOSP camera). So basically, while recording video, you have to hope the phone knows what you're trying to focus on, especially if you want to take photos while recording. On the AOSP camera, taking photos while recording also has impacts on the frame rate at times.
The AOSP camera also can take a long time to switch between photo, video or panorama (depending on the ROM you're using). Burst fire is also a joke on AOSP ROMs, put simply, it doesn't work. You can take photos faster by tapping on the shoot button really quickly.
The most critical thing for me is the start up and focus time of the AOSP camera that makes you lose the moment where you needed to take that photo while something awesome was happening. I have some fairly stupid friends, who do very funny things, which i will often record hahaha, so it's quite disappointing when i miss that moment with AOSP ROMs. I've never really missed "that moment" on a Sense ROM though.
These are just my opinions though, i hope someone can find this post useful!
Has anyone noticed if the stock google camera performs better with a possible new api for the m8? I'm wondering if there's to be specific api updates for htc's sense camera, or if the google camera is much better?
My gut feeling is that the lower megapixels with larger sensitivity when shooting raw, may either be good or bad depending on how much data is collected with a faster shutter speed in marginal low light conditions. The improvements with ois camera (nexus5) with video is quite impressive, as are the still shots.
Can anyone share their thoughts on experiences with gpe roms (skydragon 5.0 or 4.4.4) with either htc's or aosp camera on lollipop? Thanks.
We can't really make any conclusions until the official gpe ota is pushed out, i really hope htc figures out a way to improve the crappy post processing on the gpe m8.
Here's the thing, Sense Camera will always be better than GPE or AOSP camera simply because the photos that you're taking on GPE (or AOSP) is only 4 megapixel unlike on Sense, you're using ultrapixel for shots. For ultrapixel to work, you'll need sense framework which isn't located in GPE or AOSP. Thus, even if google does update the camera API and their camera app, it'll never be able to take on Sense camera as it utilizes hardware and software to allow ultrapixel to work
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Here's the thing, Sense Camera will always be better than GPE or AOSP camera simply because the photos that you're taking on GPE (or AOSP) is only 4 megapixel unlike on Sense, you're using ultrapixel for shots. For ultrapixel to work, you'll need sense framework which isn't located in GPE or AOSP. Thus, even if google does update the camera API and their camera app, it'll never be able to take on Sense camera as it utilizes hardware and software to allow ultrapixel to work
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Um, no. Ultrapixels is simply what HTC calls the (comparatively) huge pixel size of the sensor. It's just part of the hardware. You are going to get a 4Mpixel image no matter which camera app you use, because that's what the sensor is. That isn't to say one camera app isn't better than another, but the differences are largely in the control and post-processing. (I'm not sure if the GPE camera uses the depth sensor?)
Hi there.
Anyone know of a guide for the optimal configuration of SNAP camera for the LG G3?
Thx
I just use the default settings, sometimes i change the exposure or contrast but overall i enjoy the pictures taken with Snap camera. Although I do find the HDR a bit too slow and the Snap gallery is rather a feature I never use.
I've used Snap camera as my main camera app on various roms (AICP, cm, euphoria,...) and performance is equal on every rom. It's a decent replacement for the lg camera on aosp roms but the stock camera and image processing stays the best option for taking pictures on the G3
frandroid-v95 said:
I just use the default settings, sometimes i change the exposure or contrast but overall i enjoy the pictures taken with Snap camera. Although I do find the HDR a bit too slow and the Snap gallery is rather a feature I never use.
I've used Snap camera as my main camera app on various roms (AICP, cm, euphoria,...) and performance is equal on every rom. It's a decent replacement for the lg camera on aosp roms but the stock camera and image processing stays the best option for taking pictures on the G3
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Cool. Thx for the info. I'm not a photography nut, but wanted to configure it as best possible. AOSP features mean more to me than photo quality. I'm happy with SNAPs quality overall. Just wanted to see if I had it correctly configured.