Ive seen people say this ROM takes better pictures than this other ROM.. What makes one ROMs camera better than the next, when in the end its the same camera?
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I don't believe the camera is 'better,' typically, people like the MIUI camera because I think it has some extra features, like shutter sounds, backgrounds, ect, that they prefer of like the stock CM7 camera. I also think the sense 3.0 camera had some extra touches.
Yeah thats what I thought, but some people say the ( insert ROM name here ) takes better pictures than ( insert competition ROM here ) does.
Yeah people say a lot of things, but there's not really getting around the hardware. As far as I can tell all the camera apps take roughly the same photos, just that some of them can apply more effects to them.
I still dream of a camera app coming out that gives you full control over your shots with aperture and shutter speed controls.
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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Did you try messing with the settings of the miui cam
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armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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The camera on my miui takes amazing pictures I know this because my fiance is a graphic designer for ups and we have printed lots of pics from my miui phone and she always tells me you can have the best camera on the world but if you don't have a good printer you wont get the best quality pictures. It all depends on the output of the printer I'm not saying that you don't have a good printer I'm just saying I have seen the quality of the pics taking by my phone printed at her job and I most said they are amazing and they are huge I'm talking portrait size
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My understanding is the MIUI camera can be installed on AOSP roms, though I have never been able myself. But this would be the best "fix" for the cruddy AOSP cams out there.
Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.
armchairbear said:
I love using AOSP roms because they're blazing fast and smooth. No Sense rom that I've tried so far can match the speed. However, the camera on the AOSP rom takes very grainy pictures no matter what I try. Sense rom cameras take very good pics, so it must be a software issue.
I've already tried using a few different camera apps like camera360 and zoomfx. No dice. I've even tried the camera from MIUI rom. I guess there's something about the AOSP framework that affects the camera.
Is there a fix for this? I've searched and others have had this problem, but there wasn't a definite solution. Just thought I'd ask again here.
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I agree. For the most part during good light situations, I can get a decent picture using AOSP or MIUI, but if the lighting isn't 100% optimal the pictures don't really turn out that well. Over all the sense software/driver integration does give me better pictures as well. Especially when I view them in full screen on my computer. I've messed around with the settings too, but I just believe that there is optimization in sense because of HTC owning both the software & the drivers for the phone. As funny as it sounds, the better camera quality is the one thing that really keeps me coming back to Sense. I love the camera interface in MIUI, but after a bit, i always come back.
AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.
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I still feel aosp is faster than those, but i do agree the difference is not enough leave sense if you need the best camera performance or love the launcher and widgets combination which are awesome. I think many run aosp though because of the combination of mods/themes available and we feel special when we explain to others that we are running "pure" android.
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
Just saying, ROMs like Zeus and GingerBang Sense are just as fast as AOSP in my opinion.
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I heard the same from others but I think I'm gonna try this theory for myself
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Bringing up this old thread.
I just did some quick testing with the AOSP camera (Aeroevan's CM7.2 kang). I'm using the MIUI camera, but have noticed the same effect no matter what camera app I use (default, CameraZOOM).
It appears that the grainy effect on the pictures is due to the ISO setting failing to adjust with changes in settings. I took a few pics with ISO set to Auto, 100, and 1250, and they all came out identical (same amount of grain, etc).
If the ISO was being adjusted correctly, the ISO 100 pic should have had significantly less noise (grain) than the ISO 1250 one.
As my best guess, it would appear that the AOSP rom's camera driver is incomplete / buggy, as changing the ISO in settings does not change the actual ISO of the camera/picture.
I also noticed that the ISO data is being reported incorrectly in the picture file details. The pic I took @ "ISO 1250" (according to camera settings) is reported as being "ISO-129" in the EXIF data.
I've uploaded a full size pic just for example:
Pic of Chicago
I would think that this picture, taken in broad daylight, should have nearly no noise whatsoever, yet it has quite a bit.
Any feedback on this? Or is this as good as it gets for this camera?
EDIT: Upon further investigation (viewing original resolution pics taken by the ADR6350 on Flickr), it seems that nearly everyone's pics, when viewed at full size, are rather grainy, no matter the light level. Perhaps this camera just isn't very good.
EDIT #2: Here's a pic of a similar scene from an iPhone 4 - there's just no comparison in terms of overall quality (not trying to bash the DINC2, I'm just a bit disappointed with what I'm seeing).
EDIT #3: A pic from an Incredible S. Little noise, even in low light. WTF
dirkdigles said:
Bringing up this old thread.
I just did some quick testing with the AOSP camera (Aeroevan's CM7.2 kang). I'm using the MIUI camera, but have noticed the same effect no matter what camera app I use (default, CameraZOOM).
It appears that the grainy effect on the pictures is due to the ISO setting failing to adjust with changes in settings. I took a few pics with ISO set to Auto, 100, and 1250, and they all came out identical (same amount of grain, etc).
If the ISO was being adjusted correctly, the ISO 100 pic should have had significantly less noise (grain) than the ISO 1250 one.
As my best guess, it would appear that the AOSP rom's camera driver is incomplete / buggy, as changing the ISO in settings does not change the actual ISO of the camera/picture.
I also noticed that the ISO data is being reported incorrectly in the picture file details. The pic I took @ "ISO 1250" (according to camera settings) is reported as being "ISO-129" in the EXIF data.
I've uploaded a full size pic just for example:
Pic of Chicago
I would think that this picture, taken in broad daylight, should have nearly no noise whatsoever, yet it has quite a bit.
Any feedback on this? Or is this as good as it gets for this camera?
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I feel this is true for all AOSP .. the camera feels incomplete at best... It doesn't even focus properly when recording video.. if you start recording, don't get any closer or farther away!!! It won't focus.. Our phone has the capability to take wonderful pictures as long as you stick with Sense.. AOSP will ruin any chance of taking a decent picture with our hardware.. I've tested roms side-by-side and AOSP is at the bottom of the barrel in this category for me..
The Sense camera is significantly better that any AOSP camera in my opinion. I would love to have the time to shoot a photo with AOSP then NAND back to Sense and shoot the same photo to compare.
If no one else does this, I will as soon as I have a good opportunity. Pictures should be posted for comparinson.
TheAtheistReverend said:
The Sense camera is significantly better that any AOSP camera in my opinion. I would love to have the time to shoot a photo with AOSP then NAND back to Sense and shoot the same photo to compare.
If no one else does this, I will as soon as I have a good opportunity. Pictures should be posted for comparinson.
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Please do! I'll try the same; I currently have TSM's vanilla installed in a bootmanager slot.
Update: I just booted into TSM Vanilla to give the camera a quick look. I took a few pics indoors, and changed the ISO for each one. It looks like it's having the same issue! Both pics I took (one @ ISO 100 and the other @ ISO 1250 per the camera settings) came out looking the same, and the EXIF info said they had the exact same ISO.
PS - I linked a couple other pics for comparison in my reply a few posts up. One from an IncS and the other from an ip4
Example 1, Phone = Incredible 2, Fully Enlarged
Example 2, Phone = Incredible 2, Fully Enlarged
These examples seem a bit less noisy ... it's obviously not as good as a dedicated digital camera, but a crapload better than what I'm getting now !!
I love the vintage effects on sense 3.5 roms. I would have to spend 20 minutes in Photoshop to reproduce that.
http://db.tt/ZxhpK8C2
Here's one I just took outside with camera 360 at 8mp on miui
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ericsdeadinside said:
http://db.tt/ZxhpK8C2
Here's one I just took outside with camera 360 at 8mp on miui
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Not bad - do you have some sort of post-processing or color effects enabled? The colors in that pic are bizarre.
Yeah that is on the Vintage setting.
Here's one with no effects
http://db.tt/x5DUhdT4
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Here's one with no effects
http://db.tt/x5DUhdT4
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Looks pretty good. Definitely better than what I'm getting.
I just saved your pic file and looked at the properties - for some reason, your file reads as having horizontal & vertical resolution of 96dpi, whereas mine says 72dpi. I wonder if this has to do with the issue ??
Are you using camera 360?
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For my pic I was using the MIUI cam (but I'm running CM7.2). Seems that CameraZOOMfx and the default android camera have the same result for me.
It's almost as if the camera is taking a picture at a lower resolution (like 4MP) and extrapolating (interpolating?) it out to the 8MP picture size (a possible explanation for the the 8MP pictures seeming a lot less sharp than they should be).
Hy everybody,
I can't bear Sense any longer (multitasking is crap, everything is full of scam etc...)
Tried out some AOSP rom's and you can't come back, even for the cam...
So here is my question, is there a camera app out there with the same features ? (taking pics during filming, rapid burst shots to select the best one)
Thank you very much
ChriKn said:
Hy everybody,
I can't bear Sense any longer (multitasking is crap, everything is full of scam etc...)
Tried out some AOSP rom's and you can't come back, even for the cam...
So here is my question, is there a camera app out there with the same features ? (taking pics during filming, rapid burst shots to select the best one)
Thank you very much
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I don't really think there is a camera that has any of the advanced features of the Sense camera. The Sense camera was built for the camera in this phone, so it can utilize all the features. Camera Zoom FX has some effects, I hear people like lgcamera too.
I know what you mean though. I'd love a non-Sense ROM, but I don't want to give up the camera. The camera is a very important part of the phone to me.
There are ROMs that are mostly AOSP while retaining some parts of the Sense framework.
JDR0iD_eXoDiZeD is one example, and it has the Sense camera app.
The only problem with most of these camera apps is that they produce images with too much noise (at least on the HOX).
Camera ICS + is good for pics.
Nothing beats LGCamera as far as recording videos is concerned.
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I have:
- ICS+ camera (for pictures and video)
- LG Camera (for pictures and very good for video)
- Camera FV-5 (for picture with advanced/professional settings)
- Shot Control (for picture with advanced/professional settings)
- Pro Capture (for picture with lot of settings and burst mode)
Hi there.
Anyone know of a guide for the optimal configuration of SNAP camera for the LG G3?
Thx
I just use the default settings, sometimes i change the exposure or contrast but overall i enjoy the pictures taken with Snap camera. Although I do find the HDR a bit too slow and the Snap gallery is rather a feature I never use.
I've used Snap camera as my main camera app on various roms (AICP, cm, euphoria,...) and performance is equal on every rom. It's a decent replacement for the lg camera on aosp roms but the stock camera and image processing stays the best option for taking pictures on the G3
frandroid-v95 said:
I just use the default settings, sometimes i change the exposure or contrast but overall i enjoy the pictures taken with Snap camera. Although I do find the HDR a bit too slow and the Snap gallery is rather a feature I never use.
I've used Snap camera as my main camera app on various roms (AICP, cm, euphoria,...) and performance is equal on every rom. It's a decent replacement for the lg camera on aosp roms but the stock camera and image processing stays the best option for taking pictures on the G3
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Cool. Thx for the info. I'm not a photography nut, but wanted to configure it as best possible. AOSP features mean more to me than photo quality. I'm happy with SNAPs quality overall. Just wanted to see if I had it correctly configured.
With other HTC phones e.g. HTC Desire HD there was a significant reduction in camera quality for non-sense ROMs. Is this also the case with the M8? I gather this was because the phone had an image processing chip for which the libraries were only available in Sense-based ROMs.
I'm keen to install a CM or AOSP based ROM but just wondering whether there is a reduction in camera quality.
As in literal photo quality there's a very little difference IMO.
The main problem is that duo camera is not working, so no fancy bokeh effects with it anymore. 60fps and slowmo recording also don't work.
For a long problem also there wasn't a camera app that would let you change iso, exposition time, manual zoom. Mostly just point and shoot. However, ckpv5 made a working app so it's not a problem anymore.
If you care about camera and recording quality then you shouldn't be using a m8 in the first place Overall you should be satisfied with camera on los and aosp roms.