I have a rooted Xperia Play that plays GBA and PS1 games pretty well. But I want to see if I can play them on the big screen too. Kind of like how the new Nintendo switch can handle games on the big screen and in your hand.
Obviously, there's no HDMI ports on it, and Screen Mirroring doesn't seem to be an option either. Is there any other way to get video from it to the tv?
I'd be fine with using another device to play games as well, as long as it's compatible with saves from the phone. I was thinking that plugging it into a Mad Catz Mojo micro-console as an external storage device might work. I figured I should ask first however before dropping $100~ dollars on 'useless' tech.
I have a custom built gaming computer as well, but having to fire that up to play games seems like a bit of a hassle... or at least not as fun. Especially since syncing android emulators to PC ones might be tough.
I know it won't exactly be 4K visuals no matter what I use, but it would be fun to figure out and play with. Plus... I love tinkering like this in general.
No way of doing it nativly. Your best option would be to buy a cheap android TV box or HMI stick you can pick them up on ebay for sub $50, look for one with a RK3288 and 2gb of ram, should run most things.
Most games and EMUs support cloud saving, just link the emu or game to cloud saving and you can play both on the TV or on the go with your play.
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No way of doing it nativly. Your best option would be to buy a cheap android TV box or HMI stick you can pick them up on ebay for sub $50, look for one with a RK3288 and 2gb of ram, should run most things.
Most games and EMUs support cloud saving, just link the emu or game to cloud saving and you can play both on the TV or on the go with your play.
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By "HMI", do you mean HDMI? Either way, I read that the Mad Catz mojo could handle emulators pretty well and has access to the Google Play store. Using the same emulator would make syncing saves easier, right? I did read that cloud saving was an option, but I wanted to be sure about everything before I spent $5 on a incompatible app... or $100 dollars on the wrong equipment.
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I was wondering if the technology is available to connect an xbox controller to a WM7 phone. If this could be accomplished, Microsoft wouldn't have to stick to the terrible arcade game intergration, but could expand it to include Actual Xbox 360 games, downloaded as application games for retail prices (or less), or the games might be transferrable from your xbox (with the disk in it) to your phone as a one time download. This would truly make the WM7 phone the ultimate entertainment device, and it would distinguish it from any other phone company out there.
Any thoughts on how to make this happen, or if it's even possible?
In theory it's possible but you'd have to have a computer hooked up to the controller running a web service that the game communicates with. It would be much too slow to be useable.
So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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no. Too much lag. Even on WiFi it would be too laggy for most games.
If Microsoft did a massive change in their policies or somehow sanctioned this, you would have to have some sort of hardware dongle connected to the phone that would allow the phone to communicate to the controller. Then you wouldn't have the lag. But that's not gonna happen.
Yea, the tech is there, but is it worth it? The addition steps and input latency would just ruin it. A Much easier concept would be using the wii mote or PS3 controller since they both have Bluetooth connectivity. There have already been hacks with android, winmo 6.5, and the Iphone where people have used the Wiimote/PS3 controller for gaming. I see no reason for it unless your running a console emulator.
... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
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... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
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Still have the ol host-peripheral problem. Both devices are expecting to be a peripheral. The Xbox controller also expects to get power from the host. Possible? Most likely (depends on the hardware in the phone). Practical? Absolutely not.
As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
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As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
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good news is the games are all written in XNA so a port would be simple, its just up to the developers to do it & figure out touch controls
I can just imagine, the emulator ports you smart guys at xda will be able to come up with. I will have a mobile beast in my hands.
Have you guys searched Youtube for some of the awesome games already in production for WP7? Their are a lot of new guys making simple XNA games that look promising then their are games like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7UHk1k4xY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLLp6kLe1IA&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksEnvA_hQA&feature=fvwas well as Apps like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnkWbUxFqNk&feature=related coming out. Seriously sweet stuff.
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Next War
Twin Blade
Grand Piano
Harvest looks alright but the rest looks like crap...
OnLive is preetty baller.
Premise: Cloud-compressed console games "streamed" to your tablet or PC. It's a cool idea, maybe a little ahead of its time if you have mediocre internet, but if you have 10mb/s down, you'll be surprised by just how well it works. I used it to play through Deus Ex: Human Rev. on my ancient Thinkpad, and it was thoroughly satisfactory.
The hook: if you download the app you get a full playpass for Lego Batman. HDMI-in to your HDTV, control it with a game controller...
The catch is, they never really have very good deals on games (you can expect to pay $50 for any game worth playing).
Just downloaded this to all of my android devices and my pc. Pretty neat! My connection is only 6mbs, but it worked very well on my pc and decent on my a100. The prices aren't anything special, but I don't think they necessarily have to be, since this is giving you the ability to play them on nearly any device you own. Would be nice if they eventually have sales on newer games. Good Deal though, I'll need to pick up a controller to experience it fully on my mobile devices.
Does anyone know if any other controllers will work on the pc version? I have a 360 controller and pc adapter that I haven't used in awhile that would be great to use if they work.
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Im quite a big playstation fan and seeing new things like Onlive and the playstation suite which is upcoming I was looking to get me a xperia play and was wondering whether you would reccomend me to get one.
What is the phone like? is the gaming any good?
Battery any good and if theres any bad points could you please tell me.
Thank you
If you are actually serious about being able to play games properly on your phone, then buy the play, its honestly that simple, ...you could buy a slider keyboard for emulators, but then what about consoles with shoulder buttons, what about n64 that requires the an analog stick? what about all those fantastic games on the market that support hard keys for the play and not other slider keyboard phones?
the play makes a pretty decent phone, however i would recommend you root the phone to bypass the internal storage memory limit which is quite handicapped.
Apart from not being the hottest hardware available, the xplay is decent in pretty much every respect, and it excels at games. the battery life is usually quite good, you should easily be able to get a day out of it including a couple of hours of gaming. If thinness isnt an issue you can get an extended battery to really give you some serious runtime.
also remember your not limited to ps1, or n64 as a mentioned above, you have virtually every console up to the n64 as well, and most of them play amazingly.
Do you get any lag in any games like GTA 3 or any ps1 roms etc?
theres a tiny amount of lag in gta3 when theres lots of stuff onscreen when my phone is overclocked to 1.5ghz, gta3 is optimized for dual core, its probably the only game which is actually a bit slower on the play that i have found.
however it works with hw controls for the most part and is more than playable.
ps1 roms usually dont have any lag, although certain roms may, i cant remember playing any that had lag recently. FPSE has had very good dev support and has come a long way since i first downloaded it, it usually runs everything flawlessly.
If you want a portable device dedicated for gaming , id suggest you get psp or psp vita...
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Onlive works really well but only with Wifi, I can't use it other wise.it's a great phone as well and its great for games also, I only recently purchased the play and its great! It's driven me away from xbox for a while also!
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Of course the kids are clamoring about these for christmas but I wanted to get input from you actual owners about what things you could do with your note 4 with either one.
I know with the ps3 you could stream video I believe but I'm not familiar with these new consoles.
I own a ps4. There's a playstation companion app that you can use a sort of a touchpad (with limited capabilities), as well as start downloads etc from the playstation store from the phone. I used to own a Xbox 360 but I feel the smart glass app for the Xbox one is more feature rich than the playstation offering. That being said both apps have their limitations and do not make or break the console experience. As far as extra features such as media streaming (from you device) believe it or not the ps3 has both of them beat, Google it. Just go for whatever console you feel is better in terms of games because there are no killer features (well Sony xperia phones can do second screen remote play but it's only for Sony phones) as of yet.
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Of course the kids are clamoring about these for christmas but I wanted to get input from you actual owners about what things you could do with your note 4 with either one.
I know with the ps3 you could stream video I believe but I'm not familiar with these new consoles.
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cant beat Xbox SmartGlass
also they update this app so often with features it nuts. there is also a Beta version to try stuff as they test it HERE
also i just broke 1,000 posts and just realized it. i need to seriously look at my time here
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I don't have a ps4 but the xbox smartglass app works great for the 360 or the xbox one.
Each console has a separate app.
I'm surprised nobody is talking about this here. This is pretty big.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.en...05/nintendo-wii-gamecube-nvidia-shield-china/
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I'm surprised nobody is talking about this here. This is pretty big.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.en...05/nintendo-wii-gamecube-nvidia-shield-china/
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Yeah I've been checking on here to see if anyone had mentioned anything about it. I'm curious to see what the difference is between the Chinese version of the Shield and the current one.
I'm presuming there will be a TV version of the JD.com app but I'm wondering if there will be any different framework in the ROM so that this app and the Wii/GC games only work on that variant.
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Yeah I've been checking on here to see if anyone had mentioned anything about it. I'm curious to see what the difference is between the Chinese version of the Shield and the current one.
I'm presuming there will be a TV version of the JD.com app but I'm wondering if there will be any different framework in the ROM so that this app and the Wii/GC games only work on that variant.
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according to sources, its gonna be HD remakes of the games and all upscaled to 1080p, and people are speculating that they'll be downloads so ppl might make APK mods and end up being free.
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according to sources, its gonna be HD remakes of the games and all upscaled to 1080p, and people are speculating that they'll be downloads so ppl might make APK mods and end up being free.
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When I say ROM I specifically mean the Nvidia firmware. When Nvidia released shield exclusive games in the past they put certain checks in them and referenced Nvidia graphics libraries to play the games.
Hopefully we will have the same graphics libraries in the firmware but if we have different framework information then I'm guessing that would have to be bypassed in the APK or spoofed/installed on our Shield TV version.
It's too early to say if all this is possible I guess.
has not been talked about here because this is old news. Before the second gen shield tv was released, before the nintendo switch was released, it was stated that nintendo would be porting over a couple of games to the shield and they would not receive a North American release. Most likely part of the nvidia nintendo switch deal. Doubt nintendo does the actual porting though. Also shows how easily wii games could be ported to the switch. Goes to show, the shield tv isn't really meant to be much of a gaming system though, not in nvidias eyes. I say this because nvidia could have partnered with game developers to bring AAA ports and AAA exclusives. Look at all the game developer love the switch has gotten and continues to get, in theory all of those games should run on the shield. Afterall, the switch is a shield tv with an extra gb of ram, but the switch cpu gpu and ram are under clocked and under voltage to allow longer battery life.
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has not been talked about here because this is old news. Before the second gen shield tv was released, before the nintendo switch was released, it was stated that nintendo would be porting over a couple of games to the shield and they would not receive a North American release. Most likely part of the nvidia nintendo switch deal. Doubt nintendo does the actual porting though. Also shows how easily wii games could be ported to the switch. Goes to show, the shield tv isn't really meant to be much of a gaming system though, not in nvidias eyes. I say this because nvidia could have partnered with game developers to bring AAA ports and AAA exclusives. Look at all the game developer love the switch has gotten and continues to get, in theory all of those games should run on the shield. Afterall, the switch is a shield tv with an extra gb of ram, but the switch cpu gpu and ram are under clocked and under voltage to allow longer battery life.
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its old news that it was supposed to happen. now its actually happening tho id think ppl would at least discuss it was my point in my question. its still big news im sure someone will find a way to spoof the games to run on USA versions of the shield like the guy above mentioned, i agree with everything you said except the part about the AAA games, they already did that and have some thats what geforce now is for.
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When I say ROM I specifically mean the Nvidia firmware. When Nvidia released shield exclusive games in the past they put certain checks in them and referenced Nvidia graphics libraries to play the games.
Hopefully we will have the same graphics libraries in the firmware but if we have different framework information then I'm guessing that would have to be bypassed in the APK or spoofed/installed on our Shield TV version.
It's too early to say if all this is possible I guess.
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yeah ik what u meant, i was just making the point about modded apks and such since the games do seem to be something that can be downloaded.
but i agree its too early to say, lets keep hope alive tho
Except they haven't done that. How many AAA games run on the shield? Hardly any, couple out dated games got ported. GeForce now is a joke & doesn't count as AAA titles for the shield since they aren't running on the shield. Any android device can stream games.
It's probably all down to money. I'm guessing they make a lot more from their Geforce Now service than they would porting games.
Shield TV also isn't portable like the Nintendo Switch so doesn't have that niche selling point (it's up against Sony and Microsoft if it pitches itself as a gaming device and it's always going to lose that one) and Nintendo has a fairly big die hard following so game developers are more inclined to make games for the Switch... they will sell.
It's a shame that we probably won't see the Shield reach its potential as a gaming device but to be honest I use it more as an all round media device that can do a lot of things so I'm fairly happy.
Did anybody have any luck with finding the APK files for the Nintendo games? I want to see if the games work with GLTools like Half Life and Portal does.
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Did anybody have any luck with finding the APK files for the Nintendo games? I want to see if the games work with GLTools like Half Life and Portal does.
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Isn't it only the Tegra 4 (shield portable) compatible games that work with GL Tools?