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I was wondering if the technology is available to connect an xbox controller to a WM7 phone. If this could be accomplished, Microsoft wouldn't have to stick to the terrible arcade game intergration, but could expand it to include Actual Xbox 360 games, downloaded as application games for retail prices (or less), or the games might be transferrable from your xbox (with the disk in it) to your phone as a one time download. This would truly make the WM7 phone the ultimate entertainment device, and it would distinguish it from any other phone company out there.
Any thoughts on how to make this happen, or if it's even possible?
In theory it's possible but you'd have to have a computer hooked up to the controller running a web service that the game communicates with. It would be much too slow to be useable.
So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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no. Too much lag. Even on WiFi it would be too laggy for most games.
If Microsoft did a massive change in their policies or somehow sanctioned this, you would have to have some sort of hardware dongle connected to the phone that would allow the phone to communicate to the controller. Then you wouldn't have the lag. But that's not gonna happen.
Yea, the tech is there, but is it worth it? The addition steps and input latency would just ruin it. A Much easier concept would be using the wii mote or PS3 controller since they both have Bluetooth connectivity. There have already been hacks with android, winmo 6.5, and the Iphone where people have used the Wiimote/PS3 controller for gaming. I see no reason for it unless your running a console emulator.
... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
Iridox said:
... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
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Still have the ol host-peripheral problem. Both devices are expecting to be a peripheral. The Xbox controller also expects to get power from the host. Possible? Most likely (depends on the hardware in the phone). Practical? Absolutely not.
As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
IM0001 said:
As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
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good news is the games are all written in XNA so a port would be simple, its just up to the developers to do it & figure out touch controls
I can just imagine, the emulator ports you smart guys at xda will be able to come up with. I will have a mobile beast in my hands.
Have you guys searched Youtube for some of the awesome games already in production for WP7? Their are a lot of new guys making simple XNA games that look promising then their are games like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7UHk1k4xY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLLp6kLe1IA&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksEnvA_hQA&feature=fvwas well as Apps like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnkWbUxFqNk&feature=related coming out. Seriously sweet stuff.
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PaperBall
Next War
Twin Blade
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Harvest looks alright but the rest looks like crap...
HEY GAMERS I WAS JUST WONDERIN WHAT YOU THINK IS BETTER AS IM GONNA GET THE PS3 OR PSV AWHILE AWAY FROM NOW.I DONT REALLY LIKE SITTIN FOR HOURS IN ONE PLACE GAMING BUT I ALSO HATE A CHARGER AND MOSTLY PLAY GAMES BY MYSELF.SO I WAS JUST WONDERIN IS THE VITA WORTH IT OR SHOULD I GO WITH THE GOOD OL PS3 AS THEYRE THE SAME PRICE.THANX
PS3, better graphics and better games.
ps3 ofcourse
better graphics
much more attractive games that come out, espesially these months
better controller
screen size online play.
its like comparing a gio with an tab2. their different products
ps3 is way better i got one too
they have the most nice games lime mw3 gta4 and much more
Go for xbox, it's much better and more fun.
xbox sucks you need to pay for online for ps3 not
djemm1996 said:
Go for xbox, it's much better and more fun.
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and pay $10 every month to play online while ps3 is free.
just go for ps3 nice graphics enough space for downloadable games
and free online what do you want more
K.so its settled I will get the ps3.n about Xbox not even thinking about that but thanks for the suggestion
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Lol i got ps3 and xbox360 but the xbox is somewhere under my bed or something .. i never use it .. ofcourse ps3 online is free that's pretty chill but i don't like the ps3 controller so i have a kind of bluetooth xbox fake controller for it and i'm really happy with it haha
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OK so looking to get real for some gaming. Some games just require a true controller to play it. With that said what is the controller to get out there?
Something easy, plug and play would be great. Wireless preferred but not needed. Ability to pick it up locally would be wonderful, as going on a trip soon.
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MOGA is the most widely supported.
PS3 is my choice just because I like the 4 way pad for certain games. It requires root for the drivers to use wirelessly but is plug and play via cable.
The OUYA controller is also good. All can be purchased from GameStop.
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Moga Pro, pick one up from best buy and take it on your trip. If you end up not liking it just return it.
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Just got the Red Samurai from GameStop the other day as well I do have a PS3 controller as well.
Though really my question is which is better? Sort of torn on what to do. Never really understood how to effectively setup profiles on the PS3 controller which never seemed to work for half the games I tried it with. So maybe a my bad on that one. The Red Samurai seemed to work nice and quickly probably guess I need to test both of them out to see what is better.
Just curious to what people are using for gaming or the preferred controller since no matter what it seems like there is some tweaking involved with every one out there.
Oh and did try to see about the Moga Pro when I was in Best Buy the other day, didn't have one at all.
Whatever works. You can use key mappers to make more games work. No different for a PS3 gamepad. The MOGA just has "official" support for some games, which is a nice touch. The ingame menu's and stuff detect the Moga and change accordingly.
There might even be wrappers that allow you to make the tablet think it's connected to a Moga.
I know we do this on the Ouya where some games won't detect the Ouya controller, but we can plug in a USB device (keyboard/mouse/etc) and then it will detect the Ouya controller as a plain jane and start working. I know it's harder on a tab vs a dedicated gaming unit with a full USB port.
I would recommend nyko playpad pro just got them a week ago the controller itself supports many game from the play store without doing any modification all you need to do is pair it up with nexus 7. so far I've tried a neo geo emulator call tiger meme and the controller works flawlessly. the price is very reasonable compare to the steel free series, moga build quality seems decent. I got them for £26 in uk.
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I use PS3 controllers with all of my Android devices. PS3 is my preferred controller layout anyway, so it works perfectly for me. To use it wireless, you'll need root and the Sixasis app from the Play Store. If you haven't rooted, you need to have it plugged in to an OTG cable. You can easily find one locally at Best Buy, BrandsMart, HH Greg, Walmart, and the list goes on, pretty much anywhere that sells electronics will have one. It will work with any game that has controller support. If the game doesn't natively support a controller, you can still use it by just making a custom game map for it. It's super easy and works flawlessly!
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I use PS3 controllers with all of my Android devices. PS3 is my preferred controller layout anyway, so it works perfectly for me. To use it wireless, you'll need root and the Sixasis app from the Play Store. If you haven't rooted, you need to have it plugged in to an OTG cable. You can easily find one locally at Best Buy, BrandsMart, HH Greg, Walmart, and the list goes on, pretty much anywhere that sells electronics will have one. It will work with any game that has controller support. If the game doesn't natively support a controller, you can still use it by just making a custom game map for it. It's super easy and works flawlessly!
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You're using the original one?
And will class a ps3 controllers will work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-DualS...US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item35cacee6be
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You're using the original one?
And will class a ps3 controllers will work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-DualS...US_Video_Game_Controllers&hash=item35cacee6be
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Original what? I'm assuming you mean the original controller that came with my PS3 console. If that's what you meant, then yes, one that I use came with my console while another one I use was purchased separately when the PS3 was first released. Both are authentic Sony. That's the most important thing to beware of when buying from eBay, especially from overseas sellers. I've seen a LOT of legit looking knock offs on there! Some don't even say that they aren't authentic Sony, but if it's coming from China, new in the box, and only $25, then you can bet it's a fake.
Don't know if the controller you linked will work or not. The description says that it isn't made by Sony, so it's really a 50/50 chance. Some have got knock off controllers to work, while others have had problems. The Sixaxis app states that third party controllers aren't supported, so they aren't guaranteed to work. Even if it does work initially, who knows how long it will last before breaking or dying. I personally wouldn't risk it. Just buy the real thing and be done with it. You know with an authentic Sony controller then it will last for many MANY years of normal usage. Actually, I've NEVER had an authentic Sony controller go bad! That's through the original PlayStation, PS2, and now PS3.
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Original what? I'm assuming you mean the original controller that came with my PS3 console. If that's what you meant, then yes, one that I use came with my console while another one I use was purchased separately when the PS3 was first released. Both are authentic Sony. That's the most important thing to beware of when buying from eBay, especially from overseas sellers. I've seen a LOT of legit looking knock offs on there! Some don't even say that they aren't authentic Sony, but if it's coming from China, new in the box, and only $25, then you can bet it's a fake.
Don't know if the controller you linked will work or not. The description says that it isn't made by Sony, so it's really a 50/50 chance. Some have got knock off controllers to work, while others have had problems. The Sixaxis app states that third party controllers aren't supported, so they aren't guaranteed to work. Even if it does work initially, who knows how long it will last before breaking or dying. I personally wouldn't risk it. Just buy the real thing and be done with it. You know with an authentic Sony controller then it will last for many MANY years of normal usage. Actually, I've NEVER had an authentic Sony controller go bad! That's through the original PlayStation, PS2, and now PS3.
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Thanks i ordered the original ps3 controller to be sure.
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Anyone have any good suggestions on one of those new "Android Controllers" that you out your phone into and it'll work with certain games?
I recently downloaded Sonic, and have a big interest to playing it on my phone, as well as GTA, but I can't stand using my fingers on the screen, as its either too small of a screen for fat thumbs, or my finger dries up and it feels like it drags against the screen because of the heat.
One other thing is the compatibility. What games would and wouldn't work with the controller? Do I need an extra app for it to work? Ideally, I would love to download a psx emulator and play my FFVII again, since I doubt they will release it on mobile OS anytime soon.
And lastly, what about using my Xbox One controller? I won't go out to buy a ps3 or 360 controller, because then I might as well buy the ones they make for the phones.
Thank you in advance!
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Anyone have any good suggestions on one of those new "Android Controllers" that you out your phone into and it'll work with certain games?
I recently downloaded Sonic, and have a big interest to playing it on my phone, as well as GTA, but I can't stand using my fingers on the screen, as its either too small of a screen for fat thumbs, or my finger dries up and it feels like it drags against the screen because of the heat.
One other thing is the compatibility. What games would and wouldn't work with the controller? Do I need an extra app for it to work? Ideally, I would love to download a psx emulator and play my FFVII again, since I doubt they will release it on mobile OS anytime soon.
And lastly, what about using my Xbox One controller? I won't go out to buy a ps3 or 360 controller, because then I might as well buy the ones they make for the phones.
Thank you in advance!
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Moga Pro bro. I have one. Its all you need. Don't get the pocket - its too small IMO to feel like an actual controller.
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Moga Pro bro. I have one. Its all you need. Don't get the pocket - its too small IMO to feel like an actual controller.
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But what is it compatible with? Could I use it on sonic as well as a psx emulator? What kind of games can I not use it on?
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But what is it compatible with? Could I use it on sonic as well as a psx emulator? What kind of games can I not use it on?
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Regarding certain apps, it is compatible with some actually. I'm not sure which Sonic game you're referring to. It its not compatible with Sonic Dash, but it does work with Sonic CD Lite, for example. I just know that because it is explicitly stated in the app's description. The best way to know which apps the Moga series (there's 4 out currently but the Moga Pro 1st generation is more than sufficient) work with is to read the description when you download the app usually.
There's also an app that the controller comes with, on a slip of paper basically, that you can download and it lists Moga compatible apps. I forgot the name of it but just search for Moga in the play store. I'm not sure how often its updated so I've personally never relied on it...
For emulators, I haven't came across any popular emulators that ISNT compatible with Moga, or any other Bluetooth controller. To use a PS3 controller, for example, you have to be rooted, which is one reason why I recommend sticking with a Moga Pro.
I currently play Power Stone Collection on PPSSPP flawlessly. It takes a bit of configuring to get the controller and button mappings to work depending on the emulator, but thats easily done with a bit of googling or youtubing. But yes, the Moga Pro is definitely compatible with psx emulators (especially the major 2, epsxe and the other one...)
Yeah, I recommend the Moga Pro simply from the standpoint that it is the most compatible with games. If a game supports any controller it's probably going to support the Moga. The Moga Pro Power is usually cheaper than the original Moga Pro since the original was discontinued.
http://www.amazon.com/POWER-MOGA-Pr...1?ie=UTF8&qid=1398434121&sr=8-1&keywords=moga
It has a better clip for the phone and a better d-pad, plus has a large rechargeable battery that can power your phone if you want. I don't use the charging capability but the extra weight from the battery gives it a better feel (less top heavy).
You can connect the Moga in a generic Bluetooth controller mode or the "Moga" mode. I honestly haven't found any games that support a controller but don't work in the Moga mode. Some more obscure emulators may require you to switch it to the generic mode and configure the buttons manually, but I haven't found any.
Whats the difference between the Hero and Pro version, and why is the Hero 40 bucks more expensive?
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Whats the difference between the Hero and Pro version, and why is the Hero 40 bucks more expensive?
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The diff is the battery capacity. Moga is THE controller lol. But I have the Kickstarter Drone Controller which I really like as well. I played with the Moga and that is the go to, but I am a casual gamer and after the impulse controller, I didn't expect much from the Drone, but I was surprisingly wrong lol.
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Whats the difference between the Hero and Pro version, and why is the Hero 40 bucks more expensive?
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The Hero is a smaller form factor. It drops the "handles" so that it can be tossed in a bag more easily.
The reason it's more expensive is that it's backordered from Amazon so you're seeing a third party seller who is ripping people off. If you order it from Amazon it's only $40.
I recommend the Moga Pro also... It works great with Dead Trigger 2, MC4, Dungeon Hunter 4... Download the Moga Pivot app to see exactly what games are compatible.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bda.pivot.mogapgp
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I recommend the Moga Pro also... It works great with Dead Trigger 2, MC4, Dungeon Hunter 4... Download the Moga Pivot app to see exactly what games are compatible.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bda.pivot.mogapgp
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I use the Moga Pro and I confirm it works great.
I use the none mog pro. Works fine .I like to slim port to my TV and Bluetooth the ps3 controller my phone works real well.
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I have a rooted Xperia Play that plays GBA and PS1 games pretty well. But I want to see if I can play them on the big screen too. Kind of like how the new Nintendo switch can handle games on the big screen and in your hand.
Obviously, there's no HDMI ports on it, and Screen Mirroring doesn't seem to be an option either. Is there any other way to get video from it to the tv?
I'd be fine with using another device to play games as well, as long as it's compatible with saves from the phone. I was thinking that plugging it into a Mad Catz Mojo micro-console as an external storage device might work. I figured I should ask first however before dropping $100~ dollars on 'useless' tech.
I have a custom built gaming computer as well, but having to fire that up to play games seems like a bit of a hassle... or at least not as fun. Especially since syncing android emulators to PC ones might be tough.
I know it won't exactly be 4K visuals no matter what I use, but it would be fun to figure out and play with. Plus... I love tinkering like this in general.
No way of doing it nativly. Your best option would be to buy a cheap android TV box or HMI stick you can pick them up on ebay for sub $50, look for one with a RK3288 and 2gb of ram, should run most things.
Most games and EMUs support cloud saving, just link the emu or game to cloud saving and you can play both on the TV or on the go with your play.
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No way of doing it nativly. Your best option would be to buy a cheap android TV box or HMI stick you can pick them up on ebay for sub $50, look for one with a RK3288 and 2gb of ram, should run most things.
Most games and EMUs support cloud saving, just link the emu or game to cloud saving and you can play both on the TV or on the go with your play.
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By "HMI", do you mean HDMI? Either way, I read that the Mad Catz mojo could handle emulators pretty well and has access to the Google Play store. Using the same emulator would make syncing saves easier, right? I did read that cloud saving was an option, but I wanted to be sure about everything before I spent $5 on a incompatible app... or $100 dollars on the wrong equipment.