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[Q] How can I get good battery life without sacrificing too much?

I seem to get absolutely terrible battery life no matter what I do. Most of the time I'm lucky to get 8 hours.
It was that way stock/unrooted but it is no better with CM9 beta 1. Right now it is down to 69% after 2 hours with under 30 min screen on time.
I don't play games any more resource intense than Scramble With Friends and today I haven't played any at all. Most sync is turned off except Contacts and Gmail.
This is driving me insane... suggestions are much appreciated!

You have an app eating processes.
Install better battery stats from XDA to find what is keeping your phone awake.
Install Watchdog to find if any apps are running more than they should.
Worst comes to it, install everything one by one and find out which app or apps it is.

Just installed both of those. I will report back tonight.
Any settings I need to change in Better Battery Stats? I bought the paid version.

You didn't have to buy the paid version, it's free on XDA
There are no settings to change for better battery, just let it go. I haven't needed watchdog in a long time but you can set how aggressive it is if you'd like.

joshnichols189 said:
You didn't have to buy the paid version, it's free on XDA
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I appreciate that, but being able to install/reinstall from the store is convenient and I like supporting good developers.
There are no settings to change for better battery, just let it go. I haven't needed watchdog in a long time but you can set how aggressive it is if you'd like.
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Thanks!

No matter what I do, it is still terrible.
I know that I've heard that crappy reception can shorten battery life, maybe that's the problem. Where I live, the signal is very spotty and I'm sans WiFi for a week or so.
I'll post screenshots of battery/usage and watchdog, better battery stats when I get to work tonight to see if any of you experts can shed some light on this.

A little scared

Im a little afraid of running custom roms on my phone but i am running 4.1.2 Jedi Mind Trick and the thing im more worried about is battery. Does it make a difference?

13~BigBear~13 said:
Im a little afraid of running custom roms on my phone but i am running 4.1.2 Jedi Mind Trick and the thing im more worried about is battery. Does it make a difference?
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Battery depends on how you use it. Usually some custom ROMs can help save battery life but it has been proven by a lot of people that Touchwiz has the best battery life, but really there is a small difference since the phone averages 4 hours of screen time. :silly:

Koragg618 said:
Battery depends on how you use it. Usually some custom ROMs can help save battery life but it has been proven by a lot of people that Touchwiz has the best battery life, but really there is a small difference since the phone averages 4 hours of screen time. :silly:
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Yea I know its really good on touchwiz but havent ran a custom rom in over 5 months since my Samsung Blaze just wanting know if its even worth it in battery life.

My battery life was always best on stock 4.1.2....heavily debloated, greenified and location, sync, GPS all off...and screen kept as dim as I could use.
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Lux is good to control the screen brightness.
Also I always rebooted after unplugging from charger. Otherwise I'd sometimes have problems getting deep sleep.
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Dude, if you want to just increase battery life with Jedi, I'd say find Cl3kener's last 4.1.2 Tiberius Kernel and flash that. Install TricksterMod from the play store. From Trickster change your scheduler to bfq and your governor to Ondemand. Turn minimum CPU frequency down to 192. I also turn down my GPU max frequency down to 177, and my mpdecision idle_freq to 192. You should definitely some increase in your idle battery consumption. Unfortunately there's not much to do with active battery consumption like games and video .

I used that rom for 6 months...(I stopped using it, because I started to hate touchwiz), and I didn't have any problem. It's probably going to work for you too, but just in case, take a backup. (Remember that you have to install a custom recovery)

Moto G5 battery life

The Moto G5's battery is absolutely dog s*** can't believe that people are getting over a day with this phone. When the phone's screen is off that's when it great. When it's on it's crap!! Help?

Could you share your screen on time? I am still satisfied with battery performance of my moto g5, even though the battery is not large enough and the chipset really consume a lot of power,

aaronboy205 said:
The Moto G5's battery is absolutely dog s*** can't believe that people are getting over a day with this phone. When the phone's screen is off that's when it great. When it's on it's crap!! Help?
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Don't know what you're doing but I use my phone non stop all day and right now after I unplugged it at 7am this morning I still have 66% left at 4pm
Obviously if you are playing high demanding games it will drain quicker but Iv been using wifi and apps all day no problems

TheFixItMan said:
Don't know what you're doing but I use my phone non stop all day and right now after I unplugged it at 7am this morning I still have 66% left at 4pm
Obviously if you are playing high demanding games it will drain quicker but Iv been using wifi and apps all day no problems
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I haven't played games?! I don't know what's happening

Is this good?

TheFixItMan said:
Don't know what you're doing but I use my phone non stop all day and right now after I unplugged it at 7am this morning I still have 66% left at 4pm
Obviously if you are playing high demanding games it will drain quicker but Iv been using wifi and apps all day no problems
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Have u got an update on Moto G5?

aaronboy205 said:
Have u got an update on Moto G5?
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Here's mine if you want to compare
Get an app which shows wake lock settings - you can see what apps are keeping your phone awake
Iv rooted my phone & use lineageos

TheFixItMan said:
Here's mine if you want to compare
Get an app which shows wake lock settings - you can see what apps are keeping your phone awake
Iv rooted my phone & use lineageos
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I've got stock ROM waiting for a update that could fix my problem!

aaronboy205 said:
The Moto G5's battery is absolutely dog s*** can't believe that people are getting over a day with this phone. When the phone's screen is off that's when it great. When it's on it's crap!! Help?
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Actually, the battery is quite good. Even with stock ROM. Even with .15 ROM (that's what I have right now).
But I have disabled Moto Display and few other things, perhaps this helps a bit.
You should try to find out what eats your battery. In worst case, try Factory Reset.

bookworth said:
Actually, the battery is quite good. Even with stock ROM. Even with .15 ROM (that's what I have right now).
But I have disabled Moto Display and few other things, perhaps this helps a bit.
You should try to find out what eats your battery. In worst case, try Factory Reset.
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Thanks but don two factory reset

Yes the battery is **** , I use custom ROMs on my phone with ambient display the battery was **** its the same with moto notification display drains AF I get decent sot of max of 5hrs which is average on stock 4 on los
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Also I tested a 1a charger on their g5 the charging is a lot slower but the battery life is much better

awake pretty much all the time
As my phone is not rooted , how can i find which app is waking the device?

[email protected] said:
As my phone is not rooted , how can i find which app is waking the device?
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Get an app that tells you what apps have wakelock permissions & how often the wakelock is triggered by an app

TheFixItMan said:
Get an app that tells you what apps have wakelock permissions & how often the wakelock is triggered by an app
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just got the Wakelock detector lite

I'm really sorry for creating the [email protected] account as ive forgotten the password for my main account (leose).
Gyus please take a look at the screenshots . Do you think everything looks ok?

leose said:
I'm really sorry for creating the [email protected] account as ive forgotten the password for my main account (leose).
Gyus please take a look at the screenshots . Do you think everything looks ok?
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Looks perfectly normal to me

With some routers my battery goes down when display off. Solution: wi-fi off when at sleep.

How does this looks?

leose said:
How does this looks?
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Unknown as you have pulled the stats just after unplugging the phone from power

Don't know if any one noticed but the moto g5 kernel has performance as the default scheduler. Not really the best for battery life at all.

What's the effect of Second Space on battery life?

For those of you who use Second Space. I want to use it plain as my guest mode with nothing really running in parallel. What will it do to the stellar battery life I'm enjoying now?

second space has the same battary and speed impact as using fdu encryption in android, if you already have your android encrypted the battary and performance impact will be the same

I have used second space for about 3 weeks and for me there was a significant impact on battery life. Without second space.. I can last a full day with moderate usage. With second space running and switching back and forth, my phone is usually out of juice at around 3-4pm, having started my day at 8am

I have used 2nd space for almost two years and never ran out of battery in a day. I charged around 11:30 pm and usually had about 32-60% remaining. Heavy GPS use could get me to about 20%. My usage is non-standard however. I use an ancient Blackberry 8100 for voice and text. I used data-only sims in the note 3 (snapdragon), no voice calls.

bobcov said:
I have used 2nd space for almost two years and never ran out of battery in a day. I charged around 11:30 pm and usually had about 32-60% remaining. Heavy GPS use could get me to about 20%. My usage is non-standard however. I use an ancient Blackberry 8100 for voice and text. I used data-only sims in the note 3 (snapdragon), no voice calls.
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You've mentioned a Blackberry and a Note 3. So what do you use the Mix2 for? Do you own a Mix2?

Oh, "Mi" bad. I missed that the question was for a specific phone. I made the assumption, unwarranted, that all Xiaomi phones would reflect similar behavior from running 2nd space. I also own a Mi 5s, but it eats battery so fast while doing little or nothing that I don't even take it out of the house. It has 2nd space active, but it was a poor performer before 2nd space. I think it is because of the Snapdragon 821. It's a sportscar that just can't slow down.

bobcov said:
Oh, "Mi" bad. I missed that the question was for a specific phone. I made the assumption, unwarranted, that all Xiaomi phones would reflect similar behavior from running 2nd space. I also own a Mi 5s, but it eats battery so fast while doing little or nothing that I don't even take it out of the house. It has 2nd space active, but it was a poor performer before 2nd space. I think it is because of the Snapdragon 821. It's a sportscar that just can't slow down.
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Interesting. That's the first I'm hearing of any Xiaomi phone having poor battery life. Thanks for the info on 2nd space.

Twotems said:
Interesting. That's the first I'm hearing of any Xiaomi phone having poor battery life. Thanks for the info on 2nd space.[/QUOTE
Your comment got me interested in digging a little further. The biggest battery drain was Chrome, even when I force quit Chrome and reboot. I finally can't uninstall it, but I did install Firefox and finally, I do not see Chrome taking huge amounts of power. I also turned on MIUI optimization, although it is hard to say from various postings if this is good or bad. Regardless, the battery is crying for a charge again already. I'm next going to load a CPU program to limit the top speed of the processors and see what effect that has. This is a great phone...if you keep it plugged in.
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bobcov said:
Twotems said:
Interesting. That's the first I'm hearing of any Xiaomi phone having poor battery life. Thanks for the info on 2nd space.[/QUOTE
Your comment got me interested in digging a little further. The biggest battery drain was Chrome, even when I force quit Chrome and reboot. I finally can't uninstall it, but I did install Firefox and finally, I do not see Chrome taking huge amounts of power. I also turned on MIUI optimization, although it is hard to say from various postings if this is good or bad. Regardless, the battery is crying for a charge again already. I'm next going to load a CPU program to limit the top speed of the processors and see what effect that has. This is a great phone...if you keep it plugged in.
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Your battery problem lies elsewhere and it's not the soc. The Mi 5s has very good battery life. Take a look at your setup and what apps you're running. By default miui kills all non-system apps. I suspect you have installed something that's misbehaving.
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Many people have reported symptoms identical to mine: very hot operating temperatures, very short battery life. Others have tried various MIUI versions, various non-stock ROM configurations, various power and app configurations, all to no avail. Very interestingly, two people have asserted the problem is the process running the fingerprint reader. One reported that the heat and battery problems ceased when the qualcomm biometric service was halted (not sure how that was accomplished). As for installation of misbehaving apps, this phone was this way out of the box. I literally do not use it for anything beyond running the Xiaomi vacuum, which in contrast to this phone sucks positively, and an ebay app. I stopped using Chrome a few days ago, because it showed high idle use, but still the battery life is very short. I have a Redmi Note 4 here which is at 48% battery as I write this. It was last charged on the 2nd of June. It has been sitting idle with only periodic use. During the same time period, the Mi5s has required many full charges.
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Twotems said:
bobcov said:
Your battery problem lies elsewhere and it's not the soc. The Mi 5s has very good battery life. Take a look at your setup and what apps you're running. By default miui kills all non-system apps. I suspect you have installed something that's misbehaving.
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Following on to my post above, which I should have included below your post, I dug up more information from xiaomi.eu and the miui forum by searching "qfp service battery drain" in google. One comment:" It's a well known fact that starting from 8.2 (on Mi5S) the qfp-service is preventing deep sleep and causing battery drain." But another posting disputes the version-related association: " I have a problem with my Mi5S with Xiaomi.eu 7.1.20 ROM. After few days of usage I noted a strange battery drain, especially when the phone is in idle. Looking for the reason of this drain I found that qfp-service (fingerprint sensor) is doing hundreds of wakelocks." Another interesting avenue of investigation: "A couple of friends with Chinese Dev ROM say that they haven't any problem with qfp-service and battery is awesome. I think the problem is with Xiaomi.eu ROM" The apparent best solution is this one: "new update now with a "final" solution. i just uninstalled the qualcomm qti biometrics fingerprint service completely with a root uninstaller. the cpu wakelocks stopped immediately, fingerprint sensor is still working fine."
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bobcov said:
Many people have reported symptoms identical to mine: very hot operating temperatures, very short battery life. Others have tried various MIUI versions, various non-stock ROM configurations, various power and app configurations, all to no avail. Very interestingly, two people have asserted the problem is the process running the fingerprint reader. One reported that the heat and battery problems ceased when the qualcomm biometric service was halted (not sure how that was accomplished). As for installation of misbehaving apps, this phone was this way out of the box. I literally do not use it for anything beyond running the Xiaomi vacuum, which in contrast to this phone sucks positively, and an ebay app. I stopped using Chrome a few days ago, because it showed high idle use, but still the battery life is very short. I have a Redmi Note 4 here which is at 48% battery as I write this. It was last charged on the 2nd of June. It has been sitting idle with only periodic use. During the same time period, the Mi5s has required many full charges.
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Twotems said:
Following on to my post above, which I should have included below your post, I dug up more information from xiaomi.eu and the miui forum by searching "qfp service battery drain" in google. One comment:" It's a well known fact that starting from 8.2 (on Mi5S) the qfp-service is preventing deep sleep and causing battery drain." But another posting disputes the version-related association: " I have a problem with my Mi5S with Xiaomi.eu 7.1.20 ROM. After few days of usage I noted a strange battery drain, especially when the phone is in idle. Looking for the reason of this drain I found that qfp-service (fingerprint sensor) is doing hundreds of wakelocks." Another interesting avenue of investigation: "A couple of friends with Chinese Dev ROM say that they haven't any problem with qfp-service and battery is awesome. I think the problem is with Xiaomi.eu ROM" The apparent best solution is this one: "new update now with a "final" solution. i just uninstalled the qualcomm qti biometrics fingerprint service completely with a root uninstaller. the cpu wakelocks stopped immediately, fingerprint sensor is still working fine."
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Thanks for the clarifications. First, I'm not a fan of custom roms as they tend to introduce more problems than they supposedly" solve", all for the sake of stock android.
I recall that when I first got my Redmi Note 3 Pro there was a wakelock or battery drain that puzzled me too. After doing some research I learned that there's a system app called xxxx. qualcomm.xxx (I can't remember the name exactly) that was causing it and could be disabled. Once I did that I was good to go.
My Note 3 came with a vendor rom and no matter how good a rom might be, it can never match the optimizations of the original. It's very possible that your phone came with a vendor rom as they were fond of selling them that way in order for gapps to work out of the box. My suggestion would be to put the latest original Miui9 on your phone and work from there. Personally I see no reason for custom roms because miui gives the user so much control over their phone anyway.
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Twotems said:
bobcov said:
Many people have reported symptoms identical to mine: very hot operating temperatures, very short battery life. Others have tried various MIUI versions, various non-stock ROM configurations, various power and app configurations, all to no avail. Very interestingly, two people have asserted the problem is the process running the fingerprint reader. One reported that the heat and battery problems ceased when the qualcomm biometric service was halted (not sure how that was accomplished). As for installation of misbehaving apps, this phone was this way out of the box. I literally do not use it for anything beyond running the Xiaomi vacuum, which in contrast to this phone sucks positively, and an ebay app. I stopped using Chrome a few days ago, because it showed high idle use, but still the battery life is very short. I have a Redmi Note 4 here which is at 48% battery as I write this. It was last charged on the 2nd of June. It has been sitting idle with only periodic use. During the same time period, the Mi5s has required many full charges.
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Thanks for the clarifications. First, I'm not a fan of custom roms as they tend to introduce more problems than they supposedly" solve", all for the sake of stock android.
I recall that when I first got my Redmi Note 3 Pro there was a wakelock or battery drain that puzzled me too. After doing some research I learned that there's a system app called xxxx. qualcomm.xxx (I can't remember the name exactly) that was causing it and could be disabled. Once I did that I was good to go.
My Note 3 came with a vendor rom and no matter how good a rom might be, it can never match the optimizations of the original. It's very possible that your phone came with a vendor rom as they were fond of selling them that way in order for gapps to work out of the box. My suggestion would be to put the latest original Miui9 on your phone and work from there. Personally I see no reason for custom roms because miui gives the user so much control over their phone anyway.
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That's a good point. The Mi5s has the latest over the air from Xiaomi, but maybe it's from the vendor? Never had any problem with the other three Xiaomi phones I have owned. I do like specialized roms a lot, but I like Second Space more. That's the only reason I have not put alternate builds, especially Revolution Remix, on the phones I've owned. I'm glad you have prompted me to look into the root cause (no pun intended) of this issue. Since removing the fingerprint password and not touching the fingerprint reader, the phone's power use after rebooting has gone way, way, way, WAY down. Maybe. I'm looking at 228mah current drain, which is nothing. I'm going to take the phone out on a walk today and see how it does. If It is "fixed", then I will look at rooting it just to get rid of the Qualcomm module so that I can use the fingerprint reader without draining the battery. I really do not want to unlock the bootloader, but it seems there is no choice in order to get root.
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Question Any tips for improving idle battery drain?

Currently trying to squeeze as much battery life from my phone as I can. I'm running arter's kernel and screen on time is pretty good, according to accubattery my idle drain is 0.6% an hour which isn't bad to me by any means but at the moment I'm a little obsessed with improving battery life so any tips are appreciated!

ideally, anything below 0.8 is fine, you should not worry about the idle drain much. There are apps that would underclock the device but it would risk the performance and wake times. You can try that if you wish and see how that affects the device's performance to get to know if its actually worth it.

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ideally, anything below 0.8 is fine, you should not worry about the idle drain much. There are apps that would underclock the device but it would risk the performance and wake times. You can try that if you wish and see how that affects the device's performance to get to know if its actually worth it.
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I considered switching to bluspark since it allows me to switch from schedutil to conservative but I don't know if there's any real world difference between the two in terms of standby drain.

Funk Wizard said:
ideally, anything below 0.8 is fine, you should not worry about the idle drain much. There are apps that would underclock the device but it would risk the performance and wake times. You can try that if you wish and see how that affects the device's performance to get to know if its actually worth it.
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This doesn't include the scenario with AOD enabled, right? I'm getting around 3% idle drain reported by FKM. OOS 11 rooted and with bluspark kernel. Does that sound bad?

Hey all
If I may jump the topic question: I'm on arter97 + derpfest latest + magisk. Today I got like 3h sot
I can't seem to figure out what's wrong... Does anyone know of a working version of bbs for this combo?

Arcide said:
This doesn't include the scenario with AOD enabled, right? I'm getting around 3% idle drain reported by FKM. OOS 11 rooted and with bluspark kernel. Does that sound bad?
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Hmm I never use aod. Do you mean 3% an hour? Id expect it to be lower than that but again I've never tester aod.

Zesty59 said:
Hmm I never use aod. Do you mean 3% an hour? Id expect it to be lower than that but again I've never tester aod.
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Yes, per hour. I had between 1.5 and 2% on my previous Realme X2 Pro, and now it's 2.5 to 3%, that's why this looks a bit too high.

problem_child said:
Hey all
If I may jump the topic question: I'm on arter97 + derpfest latest + magisk. Today I got like 3h sot
I can't seem to figure out what's wrong... Does anyone know of a working version of bbs for this combo?
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I have the same combo and mine is working pretty great.

problem_child said:
Hey all
If I may jump the topic question: I'm on arter97 + derpfest latest + magisk. Today I got like 3h sot
I can't seem to figure out what's wrong... Does anyone know of a working version of bbs for this combo?
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install something like Better Battery Stats to see what is causing the drain.

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install something like Better Battery Stats to see what is causing the drain.
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Yeees but bbs is not working on Android 12 as far as I saw?

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Yeees but bbs is not working on Android 12 as far as I saw?
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Looking at the BBS thread, seems to be a hit and miss but a few says it works on Android 12.
[APP][2.2+][11 Dec. 2022 - V3.1] BetterBatteryStats
I started BetterBatteryStats because I was missing the great battery history that Spare Parts allowed to call on Froyo. It has been a long journey since the first version. BetterBatteryStats provides an insight in following categories: - General...
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I considered switching to bluspark since it allows me to switch from schedutil to conservative but I don't know if there's any real world difference between the two in terms of standby drain.
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Early A12 builds will hog more so cont do much for now. You can use it and see how that makes a difference for you.
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This doesn't include the scenario with AOD enabled, right? I'm getting around 3% idle drain reported by FKM. OOS 11 rooted and with bluspark kernel. Does that sound bad?
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No, when I said less than 1% I referred to idle at night time with AOD off when the device sleeps basically. With AOD 2-3% is fine. No need to restrict it further.