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Hello, i use the AuraxTSense v7.6.1 roms. Iam a litte confused about the app2sd+. Ive created a 1024mb ext3 partition with gparted and wiped the phone.
When i look in quick system info (after installing some apps) i can read:
A2SD storage: 0.93MB, Free: 706MB
internal storage 148MB, Free: 23.27
Is this the normal way app2sd+ uses the availibe memory? I feel really bad with so less internal memory.
Ive got the feeling the app2sd+ dont write more than ~200mb on the ext3 memory.
Can someone tell me what to do?
Yeah, I'm in a similar situation.
I have Modaco's R8 with A2SD+ and I think some applications (such as Copilot) are definetely going to internal memory instead of ext3 partition.
I thought, since ext3 is symlinked as /data to fool android, all applications would end up in ext3... or have I got it totally wrong??
Why are we losing so much internal memory?
I have the exact same issue!
It is soooo anoying and I am about to go totally insane.
Even though i have partitioned my SD correctly it just eats internal storage 1:1 when i install apps.
...aslo selecting move to sd card in application manager have no effect on internal storage anyhow.
Ive got exactly the same problems. Do you have Amoled or Slcd, may they did some more hardware changes. Which rom do you use, may this is a aurextsense only issue?
Does someone have tried to partition the sd via root manager? If i do so, quick system info dont show me the partition.
Could it be possible that this is the normal app2sd+ behaviour and we just want more?
Does someone know where to find the author of app2sd+, may we could hask him (or her ;D).
i have the same problem and mine is amoled.
there has to be something wrong either with our rom developement or our setup on the phone.
help would be appreciated
btw my problem is that my dalvik cache is going to the phones memory instead of the sd! check if yours is the same under data/dalvik-cache
I have the AMOLED version and I have experienced the issues on ALL ROMs (froyo 2.2 based) that I have tried out.
I partitioned the SD card with ClockworkMod recovery 0 cache, 512 ext3.
Since I have experienced this issue on all ROMs I have tried I am starting to think that it is a SD related issue?
I never had the often build in aps2sd+ working at all.
Once I had the 2.2 build in apps2sd by google working but that was after fireing this at it: adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2.
After going back to AurexTSense rom and doing the adb shell one again it didnt work.
I couldnt even make it work again with the rom that I had it working on the one time earlier.
Since I am pretty confident that the partitioning of the SD is correct then the only difference left is that my SD is a "Gold" card.
Could this be the issue???
That the SD is a gold card?
One thing I do know for sure is that I am about to go outside and ask a total random individual if he knows what the problem is.
If he dont I will kill him and proceed with the next until SOMEONE can tell me what the #%#%#% is going on.
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I dont use a goldcard so i dont think this could be a problem.
iam using a 16gb sd card. may it doesnt work with this size?!
damn problem, i will go crazy with it .
Maybe the problem has something to do with the formatting of the SD card?
I personally used ROM Manager with Clockworkmod recovery to do the trick.
...perhaps that is what us experiencing this anoying error all has in common?
Because I have had the issue on all roms I have tried out I am reluctant to believe it has something to do with the SD card / formatting...?
Problem Solved...FINALLY!
Try getting the app called Quick System Info from the market.
It can detect your app2sd ext partition.
...so if you can see it in Quick System Info it is actually working.
What I did was (again) to repart my SD with 512 ext and 0 swap.
...then that issue is ruled out of the way.
Then I wiped everything and reinstalled my fav rom.
(which ROM you use does not matter at all just as long as it has apps2sd build in. This is NOT the google one in 2.2 i am talking about here.
Preferably your ROM should have app2sd+ installed and then it will automatically move all apps to SD.
Since the ext part is interlinked with internal storage you can also have widgets and other stuff on the SD which is NOT possible with google app2sd in F 2.2
After installing the ROM I downloaded Quick System Info from the market and noticed that i actually had an app2sd partition allocated and it had 385 MB free / initially it was 512 MB.
...so clearly apps has been moved to the ext part during first boot.
Cool, i went on to download google earth since its a giant app 22 MB.
The funny thing is that 6 out og 22 MB went to the ext part and the rest went to internal memory.
The same goes for Google Maps.
The thing is that some of the google apps simply has some modules that can ONLY be run from internal storage.
..aslo making these apps not so good for testing purposes in regrards to apps2sd.
Instead I installed some other apps like Break Out for droid which is about 8 megs.
It hammered into ext smoothly and taking nothing from internal storage.
Also DO NOT USE the google apps2sd as it will only move your apps from ext part into the fat32 part of your SD.
So if you have a correctly formatted SD card (like done with clockworkmod and rom manager) it will all be working automatically.
To be honest I have been fooled a bit by my own messing around
First i didnt have an ext part which ofcourse was the initial problem.
When i finally had the ext part I was stupid enough to test with the google apps and since i only was able to see amount of interal storage it appeared NOT to work.
Try it out guys and be as happy as I am now...finally
im using the amoled version of the desire, with the exact same version of auroxtsence as the op, as you can see from the screenshot, im using over 600mb on my ext3 partition....
why are some so apps going to ext3.and some not? Ive installed quake 2, it has gone to ext3. After deinstalling and reinstalling it goes to internal. This doeant make sense to me. Is this the normal behaviour?
Ive got 15 mb internal left and wasnt able to install minisquatron without using froyo a2sd. The a2sd+ dont use more than ~200mb.
So can someone tell me what to do or if someone think it runs normal tell what to test.
Is there any way of installing this damned a2sd without wiping out everything? I gues not, so ....stupid question.
Warning !
Do not look the a2sd storage in Quick System Info , this app (great app except for a2sd line ) is bugged .
Ive tchat about this on xda , and I'm not single who don't have a ext3 partition ( after deleted ) but the app say we have a storage a2sd !
Please can you confirm me if after the Rom Manager patition tool I should have 3,18gb of FAT32 or more?
I've done 0mb for the swap and 512bmb for the EXT
Am I missing some space?
Many thanks
Best regards
3.1 + .5 is close to right. Might be a bit low but not by more then 100 MB
Disk drives never have the right capacity because of formatting and companies use 1000 MB = 1 GB when it should be 1024
Thanks
I'm asking this beacause before I redid the partitions (the sd was already partitioned) with rom manager, I crearly remember that the fat32 was something like 3.66.
Is there any way or program to get the lost space back?
Sir.Aurox said:
Thanks
I'm asking this beacause before I redid the partitions (the sd was already partitioned) with rom manager, I crearly remember that the fat32 was something like 3.66.
Is there any way or program to get the lost space back?
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you havent lost any space, as the previous poster said, with a 4gig sd card, you dont get 4gig of useable space. because of the way its formatted and the block sizes you would probably get about 3.6 - 3.7gb of space on the card.....
Thanks you too mate for the help
One last noobish question
How can I install apps on the EXT partition ?
Sir.Aurox said:
Thanks you too mate for the help
One last noobish question
How can I install apps on the EXT partition ?
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if your using a rom with apps2sd and have an ext partiton on your card, apps will automatically be installed to /system/sd/app/ (the ext partiton) so you dont need to do anything
Many thanks mate for the help
I'm currently on Leedroid 2.2d
Is there a free program to keep an eye on this partition free space ?
Leedroid have a2sd so you should be fine and "quick system info" is a great app for that purpose.
Hey Guys , I need some help with SD card partition.
I'm using HTC desire 16 GB SD card , my device is rooted and I have been all over this tutorial :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
which means that I have S-Off Precedure With Alpharev too.
I have partition my Sd Card With Gparted.
I have logged to unix , created a 3 partitions ,first one is the fat32 12 gb , second ext3 2GB, and about 200MB of swap partition....
In addition I have installed new room, the : [ROM] LeeDrOiD 2.4.1 A2SD
The thing is , that after partitions my sd card I have expected to have about 2 GB of available internal memory (setting -> sd & phone storage -> Available space )
I have expected to observe about the size of my ext3 partition size in the available space . - in the internal phone storage.
It's seems to be the the phone is unable to recognize the ext3 partition, and locate in as an internal memory.
What shall I do in order to expand my (virtual) internal memory ?
( I have look over most tutorial in the forum )
(I went through the partitions tutorial , specially this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V64S6cEkGw&feature=player_embedded
but it's seems to have no effect over the memory )
BTW, I have tried GParted , and rom manager as well , both gave me the same results.
Cheers
Shahar
I'd like to know how to create
That is not how a2sd+ works, your internal memory won't increase. It just goes down slower. Use titanium backup to see if your ext is recognised.
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Tea because ext isn't internal storage. Its on your SD card so its classed as external storage, thus the size wont change. There are a couple, if that, just 1 rom that actually changes it but other than that, it doesnt change.
You also don't need swap. Especially the 200mb of swap will greatly slow down your phone as TheGhost said. Remove it and have about 1GB or ext and you will be fine. When you flash a rom, install a few apps and see of they're installing to ext.
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Thanks
TheGhost1233 said:
That is not how a2sd+ works, your internal memory won't increase. It just goes down slower. Use titanium backup to see if your ext is recognised.
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Hey TheGhost1233
And thanks for your help
I was watching a friend of mine from school , the guy using the same phone (HTC Desire) , and he were able to change his internal memory to 1.33 Gb !!! (I was so impressed) ,
Do you know how has he done that ?
I remember the mentioned running a script from xda .... (I was searching the forum all over)
Is there any way to change my internal memory storage to 1.333 GB, as a virtual memory over my SD card storage.
Cheers
Shahar
Maybe your friend uses a rom with data2sd script from sibere (Starburst ROM uses it see here)
Meaple said:
Tea because ext isn't internal storage. Its on your SD card so its classed as external storage, thus the size wont change. There are a couple, if that, just 1 rom that actually changes it but other than that, it doesnt change.
You also don't need swap. Especially the 200mb of swap will greatly slow down your phone as TheGhost said. Remove it and have about 1GB or ext and you will be fine. When you flash a rom, install a few apps and see of they're installing to ext.
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Thanks for your help
Are you sure about the swap partitions ? I'm familiar with the unix platform, and a swap partition is very essential.
do you know which rom changes the internal memory ?
And I have spotted my partition using titanium backup ....
What kind of things I can do with that partition ?
Thanks
Shahar
CyanogenMod website has a good explaination for this topic:
As I'm not yet allowed to post outside links go to cyanogenmod website -> community -> wiki -> Swap and Compcache
Hope you will find it...
Hey guys
I have finally made it !!!
Manage to have 2 GB at my internal memory
Using the Gparted partition and the http://starburstrom.wordpress.com/ roms
Thanks for the help !!
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shaharsar said:
Hey guys
I have finally made it !!!
Manage to have 2 GB at my internal memory
Using the Gparted partition and the http://starburstrom.wordpress.com/ roms
Thanks for the help !!
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I want to ask if the starburstrom has built-in Data2SD or I have to run the script seperately ???
It's not built in. But on Starburst website (mentioned above) you get all you need to activate it. It's easy. Just follow the instructions on the site.
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It's not built in. But on Starburst website (mentioned above) you get all you need to activate it. It's easy. Just follow the instructions on the site.
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Do I need to s-off my desire firstly for using Data2SD ?
Not at all!
I found that the Data2Sd installer has different series: X, W and Tiny series.
Which one should I need to use?....thx
hey everyone
i have rooted my phone and installed cyanongen mod7, the fact is that i followed the noobprrof tutorial, and as he stated i partitioned my sd card, i left 1 gb ( its a 4gb memory now its divided to 3 and 1 ), but i didnt know where did it go and why i did partition my sd card, i thought it would add up to internal memory but it didnt...
please can anyone tell me whats the purpose of paritioning it ?? and how can i let apps get installed on this paritioned part if its purpose is so...
thanks in advance
It's for a2sd, it doesn't add up in internal memory, if you want to check if it's there download quick sytem info from the market, it's purpose is to store apps on your sd(mainly, there's always some data left.) for example when i had stock 2.2 froyo on my desire non rooted, i couldn't have more than 165-170 apps, now i have 379 and ext is also for the rom itself, like a sense rom doesn't fit totally on the system partion, so the part which doesn't fit is on your sd
Hope you understand it
thank u, i actually understood wut ur saying
for instance, i have downloaded games and stuff, now the phone says that the phonememory is on low storage, i still have like 30 mb... i tend to move apps from phone to sd card...
incase all internal memory is used will it conitinue installing on the 1gb i have paritioned... and is it just a notification that doesnt effect anything...
i also would like to ask if i can i can automatically download & install the apps from the market on the sd card...
thanks again
ps: i checked the system info and yes it is there... a2sd 0.96gb and 0.9gb free
It's not just like that
If you install an app for instance google earth, it's around 24mb, 300-400kb will stay on your phone and the rest will go to that partition automatically, although some apps like this iBeer i installed is fully on sd, it depends, but if you're low on memory just move some apps manually to your sd(this doesn't make them move to the ext but fat32 partition(the part that windows can see). If you just insert a SD and applt android's app2sd not a lot of the app will go to the sd, on the other hand the a2sd implied in rom's doesn't give you limitless place till you sd is full. If you want that apply data2sd, that adds to the internal memory as you thought
the max apps you can put on your desire with a2sd is max 400 i think, as i can't move any app manually to sd, and i have 35mb left with 379 apps
hope u understand it even better now
ok i did move the apps 2 sdcard, but they are moved to the 3gb partition and not the 1gb partition which i cant see, i only want to know what is the purpose of this 1gb that i made due to the tutorial... since i cant move apps to it or even put files on via usb ( as music and stuff )... then why is it created... ??
ps : the 1 gb is ext4 the 3gb is the fat32
i really wish there was some thread explaining all , maybe i would have let ur life easier hehe, im sory but im new on android...
thanks again
What did you use to create the 1gb partition? Did you use something like mini partition .. under windows?
I had a hell of a time trying to get it to work this way (if you did) the solution i found was to get the gparted live cd (google it) and run the partitioning wizard on that and the auto apps2sd will work.
The point of doing it is that some roms need more space than the desire has, I'm using insert coin and it needs a proparly formatted ext3 to work to fit the whole rom onto the phone.
Have you checked using quick system info to see if the a2sd storage is being recognised?
hey amriving
actually i did divide my sd card with gparted, everythings going great, but the fact that i cant use the 1000 mb ext2 partition (app2sd) is wut im asking about... (total of 4gb memory)
i mean when i move the apps to sd card they go to the 3gb fat32 space i have, and not the 1gb i partitioned...
so what i want to know is what is the purpose of this (app2sd) 1gb ext2 partition, how can i use it
i checked the system info and i found that there is 0.96gb of the app2sd partition and there is free 0.9 gb,
i have cyanogen mod7 rom
and thanks for the reply
Don't move it to sd, i think you didn't understood me, it does it automatically, just install a app, look at it's size, then delete it, you'll see that not that size went away from your memory but much less
You can't use it through windows, only if you have linux you'll be able to see inside the ext also with root explorer( go to recovery and then mounts then press mount EXT )
And they go to the 1GB partition. There will be an android.secure in your sd with apps, but if it wouldn't work, i wouldn't have 55mb android.secure with 390 apps now! and just 100mb free on 1.4GB ext, Just don't question this anymore, download 100 apps, you'll see it very well then if you don't then you obviously have a problem
thanks everyone
android.secure is on 3gb fat32 not the 1 gb ext...
i also went to recovery its on mount sd ext...
guys what i want to know is why when moving the apps to sdcard, they are going to 3gb fat32 partition instead of 1gb ext4 partition...
is nt it supposed to go to 1gb ext4 partition ?! which is the reason every android user is doing for ... ?
i have checked the ap2sd and yes it is there
android.secure file is in 3gb partition not the 1gb ext4 partition
No no you didn't understand me, look normally with 160 apps would your phone memory be full, and your android.secure(on the 3gb partition) be large, now it shouldn't be very big anymore, because for example city story is 23mb, 1mb on phone memory and 22 on ext. normally this would be 5-10 mb on phone memory and remainder on the 3gb(fat32 partition) now this is most of the times divided over the 3 or just in ext and phone memory, and the main reason is a lot of the app goes on the ext
answer
F*S Even i, a noob understood it 3 times allready..
btw this answers my final question here
listen(more like read), i'll try to resimplify the answer for you, think of an android app as a windows app.
a windows app is Commonly installed in 3 - yes THREE seprate location at once!
1. Main Program Files - C:\program files\<APP NAME HERE>
this contains all the app's inner working, modules, GUI, sound, pictures and stuff - most of the app is located here so this folder is 'heavy'
2. appdata - C:\Users\<USER NAME HERE>\appdata\<Local \ Roaming>\<APP NAME HERE>
this may contain any setting, saves, projects, and temp files for the app to use.
so only some parts make it here - litewight but still takes up space..
3. Registry - run>regedit.exe
this is sort of a log file for all windows operation, installaions, apps location and sometimes even app settings
again litewight but takes place..
SAME WITH ANDROID - sort of..
an android app contains Resource Data - like program files, the 'exeutable', settings, modules, critical data for the exeutable and more..
and so when you use the traditional APPS2SD that comes Froyo+ ( settings>apps>google earth>move to SD/PHONE )
all the non-critical data and resources move to the SD fat32 patition.
all the remaining critical data, 'exeutable' and stuff remain on the internal memory which still takes up valuable internal space, that's where a2sd+ comes in, as mentioned before, a2sd+ again moves to rest of the remaining appdata to the ext, and only tiny critical part of the app remains on the internal memory - therefor you get to install many apps until you internal memory fills up or the ext fills up, this time only the absolute critical app files that cant be moved to the ext OR the fat32..
as TopGear63z said:
most of the times divided over the 3 or just in ext and phone memory, and the main reason is a lot of the app goes on the ext
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data2sd extends your internal storage..
a2sd+ lets you install more aps
EXPERTS: Please verify my answer as i am also a noob and this is my understanding on the subject, i maybe very wrong or very right
PS: Why double post
thankyou asaf400
actually i know all this and i really appreciate ur reply
but wut i wanted is to install apps on ext, and actually i found it i downloaded simple2ext app and now i have 150mb free internal memory, see now all apps are on ext part of the memory card... this is what i wanted to know...
thanks all
or you could just flash a data2sd based custom rom like droidzone's starburst or gingerburst... you'll get upto 2gb of internal memory from the start
Don't worry, I'm not gonna whine about how I miss unified storage or how I have no space left for my million apps.
I have a genuinely unique issue and I need help understanding it.
I am running Cyanogenmod 12.1
My storage looks like this:
Internal storage 318MB available out of 2.95GB (system storage)
Internal storage 12.10GB available out of 23.47GB
External storage 16.17GB available out of 29.71GB.
I tried installing a storage analyzer app and for the System storage it says:
System storage: 382MB available / 626 MB occupied
So the app thinks I have 1 GB partition whereas the phone itself thinks I have a 3GB partition.
According to my phone I should have 2.4Gb available on the system partition!
I believe something much be really wrong here because there is hardly any space left at all to do anything.
I only have 6 apps installed on the internal storage and it constantly full and unable to download any more.
I am convinced that the partition is actually 1GB instead of 3GB that my phone thinks.
I am looking for someone knowledgeable to help me diagnose the problem.
The solution I seek would be either something that would
a ) Fix the partition to be a real 3GB instead of a 3GB that acts like a 1GB
b ) Increase the partition size to be much larger (at least 5GB)
c ) A combination of all of the above
I've also looked into a unified storage approach which I understand is possible with CM12.1 but extremely difficult. The tutorials I found are insane.
I am looking for advanced solutions and not the typical answers such as "wipe delvic cache", "clear cache", "remove apps" etc.
Thank you
I have the same problems and my ROM is Omni 5.1.1 . Hope you find the answer.
Try using partition manager in oppo's stock recovery
Flash stock recovery and go to partition select restore partition... I'm sorry but it may work..
nkomp18 said:
Don't worry, I'm not gonna whine about how I miss unified storage or how I have no space left for my million apps.
I have a genuinely unique issue and I need help understanding it.
I am running Cyanogenmod 12.1
My storage looks like this:
Internal storage 318MB available out of 2.95GB (system storage)
Internal storage 12.10GB available out of 23.47GB
External storage 16.17GB available out of 29.71GB.
I tried installing a storage analyzer app and for the System storage it says:
System storage: 382MB available / 626 MB occupied
So the app thinks I have 1 GB partition whereas the phone itself thinks I have a 3GB partition.
According to my phone I should have 2.4Gb available on the system partition!
I believe something much be really wrong here because there is hardly any space left at all to do anything.
I only have 6 apps installed on the internal storage and it constantly full and unable to download any more.
I am convinced that the partition is actually 1GB instead of 3GB that my phone thinks.
I am looking for someone knowledgeable to help me diagnose the problem.
The solution I seek would be either something that would
a ) Fix the partition to be a real 3GB instead of a 3GB that acts like a 1GB
b ) Increase the partition size to be much larger (at least 5GB)
c ) A combination of all of the above
I've also looked into a unified storage approach which I understand is possible with CM12.1 but extremely difficult. The tutorials I found are insane.
I am looking for advanced solutions and not the typical answers such as "wipe delvic cache", "clear cache", "remove apps" etc.
Thank you
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sydtek said:
Flash stock recovery and go to partition select restore partition... I'm sorry but it may work..
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Hi sydtek , do you know the detail steps to convert to LVM?
[SOLVED] LVM in find 7 devices
This issue has already been solved by Entropy512 in oppo community..
Just Visit
http ://community.oppo.com/en/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=23440&extra=
Hope it helps you
(as i cannot add links as im a new user, juz delete the extra space in the url
JackYao said:
Hi sydtek , do you know the detail steps to convert to LVM?
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