Hey guys
silly question, but if you leave the ambient clock on, will this cause burn in? I use my phone as an alarm when I go to bed
I did take teh Nov update, but no way to confirm if the burn issue is fixed.
TIA
have you seen any reports of burn in from the ambient display? NO. So there's your answer. If this was happening it would be blown out of proportion just like everything else with the display.
You mean the always on dim display thing? They said it moves around to avoid that.
Well the pixels displaying your time and notifications are on while the rest of the screen is off. There's the possibility for uneven wear, but I doubt it would ever show or you would never notice it.
docluv01 said:
Hey guys
silly question, but if you leave the ambient clock on, will this cause burn in? I use my phone as an alarm when I go to bed
I did take teh Nov update, but no way to confirm if the burn issue is fixed.
TIA
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It still does wear pixels unevenly but the amount of time it would need with it being moved every minute in a zigzag pattern makes it pass the burn-in concern. I'd say if you use your phone normally you'd see something show up in 1-2 years. However, if you leave your phone under a bright light for long periods of time you might want to disable always on display feature.
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If you are worried about it put the phone face down. The prox sensor turns it off.
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Would it be bad to keep my phone screen on for long periods of time? For example if I wanted to use it as a clock next to my bed. Would it have any impact on the screen if it was on all night? I have the HTC Surround.
i think it probably would, the image may burn into the display and remain there
is there a way to leave the screen on all night? I thought there was no way to disable the auto off feature, just a way to change how long it takes to turn off.
i don't think so. it will not harm your screen. no digit will never stay the same for more than a couple of hours. As the previous post says, there may not be a way to keep it on anyway.
I've had a lot of phones that keep the screen on when the phone is plugged in. So that may mean all night...and no screen burn has ever happened. If you can get it stay on, you'll be fine
Krissrock said:
i don't think so. it will not harm your screen. no digit will never stay the same for more than a couple of hours. As the previous post says, there may not be a way to keep it on anyway.
I've had a lot of phones that keep the screen on when the phone is plugged in. So that may mean all night...and no screen burn has ever happened. If you can get it stay on, you'll be fine
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Unless you are using AM/PM clock format - M stays at the same place.
On the side note, I know AMOLED's are susceptible to burn-in, but I thought LCD tech had advanced to eliminate screen burn-in issues.
Never had a problem with LCD's - phone screen was left on every night on my TP2 whilst charging for the past 15 months with no ill-effect. Same on my Sony Ericsson C905.
My GNex has a screen burn in of the status bar, and the navbar. It is a dark blue shade, and I look closely I can see the back, home, and recent apps button. I am currently using the screen burn in tool to try and fix it. Has anyone else had this happen to them?
use the search feature. its been discussed before.
It's common in the Galaxy Nexus, and there really isn't much you can do about it besides the screen diagnostics tool. I get it as well, and my Gnex is only about 6 months old...
Turn down your screen brightness! Not only will you keep from ruining your screen with burn in, but you will save some battery in the process.
In the year+ I've had this phone never once have I noticed ghosting, much less had issues with burn in. And since it is.. Turn your brightness down, or chalk it up to user (your) error.
WiredPirate said:
Turn down your screen brightness! Not only will you keep from ruining your screen with burn in, but you will save some battery in the process.
In the year+ I've had this phone never once have I noticed ghosting, much less had issues with burn in. And since it is.. Turn your brightness down, or chalk it up to user (your) error.
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I have it below half when i'm inside because of bright lighting. Outside I switch it to full so its visible.
Do you guys recommend the Galaxy Screen burn-in\ghosting diagnose and repair utility, or the screen burn in tool, on the play store?
Did you manage to solve this issue?
I used this app from google play "Screen Burn Repair" to fix the issues I had with screen burn.
Is it safe to use the phone as a desk clock while charging at night? Ive read somewhere that amoled screens have screen burn-ins or something like that.an answer to this long sought after question would be much appreciated =) im sure alot of people would wanna know this.
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Images don't really "burn" on amoled screens. LED's just will slowly get darker when they'r turned on.
"Normal" LED's, which aren't built as part of a display have a lifetime of about 70,000h.
That means that they will only have 70% of the starting-brigthness after that period of time.
I don't know the values of whole displays but you could definitely see some pixels, which are small LED's, glow less bright if they where turned on much longer then others
while watching a white picture.
This process may take a long time but i wouldn't let the screen turned on the whole night.
neominik said:
Images don't really "burn" on amoled screens. LED's just will slowly get darker when they'r turned on.
"Normal" LED's, which aren't built as part of a display have a lifetime of about 70,000h.
That means that they will only have 70% of the starting-brigthness after that period of time.
I don't know the values of whole displays but you could definitely see some pixels, which are small LED's, glow less bright if they where turned on much longer then others
while watching a white picture.
This process may take a long time but i wouldn't let the screen turned on the whole night.
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Hmm..ok.thanks alot =)
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It should be fine and you don't need to worry about burn in effects with desk clock as the time display is constantly changing location on the screen. You would worry only if the display remains static for long periods of time.
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bushako said:
It should be fine and you don't need to worry about burn in effects with desk clock as the time display is constantly changing location on the screen. You would worry only if the display remains static for long periods of time.
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I remember back in '11 when my s2 froze for the whole night while being charged and the phone was like a freshly made pizza or something when i woke up.had to change the battery eventually.
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Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
improvius said:
Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
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I had the GWR and didn't have any issues with that at all. That said I turn the screen off at night during charging so maybe that helps. I'll keep an eye on the Huawei, but I'm hopeful that it will be fine.
dunjamon said:
I had the GWR and didn't have any issues with that at all. That said I turn the screen off at night during charging so maybe that helps. I'll keep an eye on the Huawei, but I'm hopeful that it will be fine.
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I had the GWR for almost a year too. Always used watchfaces that are 'always on' (so no dimmed mode without background) and always had the charging animation on by night. Never experienced any burn-in.
I just powered mine on for the first time last night. I played with it for a few hours, then put it in the charger for the night and this morning it has burn-in!! How could it happen so fast??
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I just powered mine on for the first time last night. I played with it for a few hours, then put it in the charger for the night and this morning it has burn-in!! How could it happen so fast??
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Whoa! What got burned in? The little charging icon?
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Whoa! What got burned in? The little charging icon?
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The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
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The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
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hell no, wtf!!
it is very bad, sorry for that, were you using this watchface long time ago? what is the watch face look like in ambient mode? maybe the watch got really hot, and screen on while charging. i started to worry about the screen quality of this watch.
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i have seen this is your first day, i think maybe a faulty screen
Yeah, I'm wondering if your watch just froze in full display mode overnight.
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The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
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That deserves an RMA and you deserve a new replacement watch.
I sometimes get lag on mine, im not sure if it's actual lag or whether im doing something wrong but as someone mentioned if the watch went full brightness and is charging then the heat might have done it?
I returned it yesterday to best buy. Lucky me though. . they had cyber Monday deals and it was on sale for $50 less! !
I noticed that when the minute hands on mine move (ie every minute) that the whole screen kind of does a refresh. I'm using a custom watch face called InstaWeather, and in the settings there's an option to help with screen burn. I wonder if this is it? So every minute, every pixel would have been off/on or on/off?
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I noticed that when the minute hands on mine move (ie every minute) that the whole screen kind of does a refresh. I'm using a custom watch face called InstaWeather, and in the settings there's an option to help with screen burn. I wonder if this is it? So every minute, every pixel would have been off/on or on/off?
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yes, this is an android wear burn in protection buy moving a few pixels in all directions, works very good if you don't have large objects in the ambient mode, and won't help much if you have.
improvius said:
Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
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In my opinion, yes, you are being overly worried. First the technologies itself has improved and we see less burn-in even when we set screens on to test such a thing. Second, the ability to move(write) a watch face or screen is not some huge leap, in fact it's really super easy to add to an OS to simply move the screen pin outs when in any long display mode. Beyond all that, app makers, watch face builders, now have the old data and make sure they write to avoid any long same display visual mode.
Easy to add to an app, when write same display, write 2 pixels, change.
Then after all that we have face on mode and ambient mode, which in my daily use changes my watch face enough that I would never get burn in. Agree that I am a heavy user of the watch, I tend to have to change twice a day. Perhaps someone that used the watch much less would have more of a concern?
I have the same problem
http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg
Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
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I have the same problem
http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg
Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
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****. What kind of messed up face watch/app did u use?
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In my opinion, yes, you are being overly worried. First the technologies itself has improved and we see less burn-in even when we set screens on to test such a thing. Second, the ability to move(write) a watch face or screen is not some huge leap, in fact it's really super easy to add to an OS to simply move the screen pin outs when in any long display mode. Beyond all that, app makers, watch face builders, now have the old data and make sure they write to avoid any long same display visual mode.
Easy to add to an app, when write same display, write 2 pixels, change.
Then after all that we have face on mode and ambient mode, which in my daily use changes my watch face enough that I would never get burn in. Agree that I am a heavy user of the watch, I tend to have to change twice a day. Perhaps someone that used the watch much less would have more of a concern?
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Wrong. You must not understand what screen burn in is. No new technology has come out that will stop screen burn in. The software that moves the pixels over only works if the object is 1 pixel wide other wise it doesn't work screen burn in will still happen. And they do not have it where the same pixels won't be used otherwise in ambient mode it would jump around not wiggle.
dj.kure said:
I have the same problem
http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg
Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
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Reset the watch. It may not be burn in. I saw a bug like this from using too high Def of an image on a watch face. It got stuck in the cache even after I changed watch faces. I reset the watch and haven't had any issues since
Lepa79 said:
****. What kind of messed up face watch/app did u use?
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Default watchface "Explorer".
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ShrekOpher said:
Reset the watch. It may not be burn in. I saw a bug like this from using too high Def of an image on a watch face. It got stuck in the cache even after I changed watch faces. I reset the watch and haven't had any issues since
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Do you mean "Factory reset"? I did it, but nothing has changed.
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Wrong. You must not understand what screen burn in is. No new technology has come out that will stop screen burn in. The software that moves the pixels over only works if the object is 1 pixel wide other wise it doesn't work screen burn in will still happen. And they do not have it where the same pixels won't be used otherwise in ambient mode it would jump around not wiggle.
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Fare enough, just my opinion, & you have yours. Too bad you had to start by saying wrong.
Samsung has made changes to light output and color to reduce burn in, and we all know there is some type of display movement now to also reduce burn in, so it's odd you claim there has been nothing.
Anywho, I don't get burn in so yea, maybe with your attitude if you do, you deserve it?
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Fare enough, just my opinion, & you have yours. Too bad you had to start by saying wrong.
Samsung has made changes to light output and color to reduce burn in, and we all know there is some type of display movement now to also reduce burn in, so it's odd you claim there has been nothing.
Anywho, I don't get burn in so yea, maybe with your attitude if you do, you deserve it?
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I'm not going to start it by saying you're right, am I? Samsung didn't make changes to anything in light output the only thing that's changed is adaptive screen color which is meant to adapt the screen contrast to show what's on screen in the best possible colors. There is no new technology that will stop burn in. You must not have understood me. The image wiggle is a software attempt to stop screen burn in from happening but it won't stop it just slow it down. Screen burn in will continue to be a thing until the panels we use change technology. I didn't say that nothing has been made to prevent it.
And if you sense attitude in a straightforward response that's on you. I'll let karma deal with that comment. I personally don't get screen burn in and I've had a SAMOLED device since the Samsung Epic. I just understand how to prevent it. But just because I've never had it I won't tell people that they're overly concerned about screen burn in.
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Anyone keep always on display off due to potential burn in?
I prefer always off, but the terrible implementation of double tap to wake forces me to keep it on.
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Hi Anyone keep always on display off due to potential burn in?
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No... I love it and the now playing music as well. The only issue I have is the AOD is too dim in a pitch black dark room. All other light levels it works fine. :good:
Does it move around like the Samsung phones or will it just burn in?
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I don't use it but the AOD moves around, it doesn't stay stationary so it shouldn't cause burn in.
It does not move around on this phone.
Stays same place.
Never seen it move.
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It does not move around on this phone.
Stays same place.
Never seen it move.
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It moves a few pixels every minute. Watch it when the time changes. It's not much but it does move
Agree, it moves fractionally...
Always on is annoying to me I keep mine set to Lift to Check phone
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Agree, it moves fractionally...
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Yeah, it doesn't move nearly enough to alleviate my concern of burn-in. Especially with this screen. On the S8 it would move all over the place, even down to the bottom of the screen. Now, that's how you prevent burn-in. Just moving it back and forth between a few small pixel variations is not going to properly prevent burn-in.
For this reason, I have always on display turned off. Not worth the risk to me.
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It moves a few pixels every minute. Watch it when the time changes. It's not much but it does move
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I don't see how that helps. Burn in is caused by uneven pixel aging. If it's only moving a few pixels back and forth then it's really still the same part of the screen that is having the pixels age more than the rest of the screen.
Always on is always on here, no burn in so far. Works brilliantly.
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No... I love it and the now playing music as well. The only issue I have is the AOD is too dim in a pitch black dark room. All other light levels it works fine. :good:
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It's much improved in the dp2. Hopefully that sticks in the final release
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One question about the Always On Display (I don't want to open a new thread for this) - is there a way to have the "Lockscreen"/Always-On-Display rotate to landscape mode?
When I am having my Pixel 2 XL on the magnet mount in my car in landscape mode, it would be great that the AoD also rotates...haven't come up with an idea yet, unfortunately.
jimv1983 said:
I don't see how that helps. Burn in is caused by uneven pixel aging. If it's only moving a few pixels back and forth then it's really still the same part of the screen that is having the pixels age more than the rest of the screen.
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I didn't say it helps I was just saying it does move to the post I quoted. That said I've had my phone since 10/19 with AOD on ever since and have no burn in.
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I didn't say it helps I was just saying it does move to the post I quoted. That said I've had my phone since 10/19 with AOD on ever since and have no burn in.
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Ok, my misunderstanding.
I got my phone on 10/24 and so far I have left AOD off. I have "Double-tap to check phone" and "Lift to check phone" turned on.
I have kept AOD off for 2 reason:
1. The fear of burn in. You may not have seen it but it does seem to me to be the most likely thing on the phone to cause burn-in since those pixels would always be on. Between 10 and 12 (am and pm) you would have the 1 digit always on and whatever shift occurs isn't noticeable so it's likely just than the width of pixels of the 1 digit. So you would effectively have pixels literally active 24 hours a day. That kind of worries me so I leave it off just as a precaution.
2. Impact on battery life. Having AOD on results in having to render, refresh and illuminate pixels 24 hours a day. Even with the great battery life I could still see the battery life being noticeably decreased.
I really wish there was more customization options, or at least the battery status displayed for AOD.
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Ok, my misunderstanding.
I got my phone on 10/24 and so far I have left AOD off. I have "Double-tap to check phone" and "Lift to check phone" turned on.
I have kept AOD off for 2 reason:
1. The fear of burn in. You may not have seen it but it does seem to me to be the most likely thing on the phone to cause burn-in since those pixels would always be on. Between 10 and 12 (am and pm) you would have the 1 digit always on and whatever shift occurs isn't noticeable so it's likely just than the width of pixels of the 1 digit. So you would effectively have pixels literally active 24 hours a day. That kind of worries me so I leave it off just as a precaution.
2. Impact on battery life. Having AOD on results in having to render, refresh and illuminate pixels 24 hours a day. Even with the great battery life I could still see the battery life being noticeably decreased.
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Fair enough. I tried turning it off last night and by this morning I turned it back on. Just getting ready for work this morning I missed not being able to glance over at the time as well as seeing it in my car on the dock. If there was a way to turn it on schedule or something that'd be nice. Maybe tasker could do it somehow..
Moostafa29 said:
I really wish there was more customization options, or at least the battery status displayed for AOD.
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Yeah me too. Maybe once ROMs become prevalent there will be
Moostafa29 said:
I really wish there was more customization options, or at least the battery status displayed for AOD.
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Yeah me too. Maybe once ROMs become prevalent there will be
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If you use Accubattery, it displays the charge level on AOD with a circle around it. After the N6P I was paranoid about the battery so installed AB to confirm my battery was solid. (106% capacity). It may be a workaround until some dev comes along and provides that without having to install an app. Also THIS ARTICLE in XDA gives some hope. See the last paragraph on "other applications". :good:
I have a question on AOD. If you are listening to Google Play Music, does it show what song you are listening to? Or do you have to go to the actual lockscreen to see that? Thanks.