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HTC 10 Build quality. First Impressions. Over all love!!

HTC 10 owners speak up! How great is your 10 let everyone know how well yours is built and holding up. Also your first impressions, the knock your socks off experience unfortunately mine shipped while I was on vacation and is sitting at home waiting on me. Will report on Monday when I get home! Can't wait!

From the 7-ish hours I've had mine, it has 100% completely lived up to the hype and has been an enormous upgrade from my One m9. I have absolutely zero build quality, screen, or performance issues. The camera is miles ahead of the m9's and I can't wait for the 1.30 software update to hit my phone which will make it even better. Also, one thing that really stood out is just how fast and accurate the fingerprint scanner is. The capacitive button idea is simply perfect for a fingerprint scanner. There's no way I can go back to a phone without a fingerprint scanner now.
My absolute biggest complaint (if you can call it that) is the position of the headphone jack. I've gotten used to having it on the bottom of the phone which fits best with my personal usage since I place a phone top-down in my pocket. I'm not sure this even qualifies as a problem and I know I'll get used to it quickly.

jaredkzr said:
From the 7-ish hours I've had mine, it has 100% completely lived up to the hype and has been an enormous upgrade from my One m9. I have absolutely zero build quality, screen, or performance issues. The camera is miles ahead of the m9's and I can't wait for the 1.30 software update to hit my phone which will make it even better. Also, one thing that really stood out is just how fast and accurate the fingerprint scanner is. The capacitive button idea is simply perfect for a fingerprint scanner. There's no way I can go back to a phone without a fingerprint scanner now.
My absolute biggest complaint (if you can call it that) is the position of the headphone jack. I've gotten used to having it on the bottom of the phone which fits best with my personal usage since I place a phone top-down in my pocket. I'm not sure this even qualifies as a problem and I know I'll get used to it quickly.
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You are really making me anxious to get my hands on mine!!!

crowsnestitsupport said:
You are really making me anxious to get my hands on mine!!!
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Let me tell you, you will not be disappointed! The 10 is, without a doubt, the best android experience currently available.

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Guessing this one's still open then? Lol
Did u get any delivery news mate?
U guys won't be disappointed. Mines coming next week and I'm convinced still despite the launch BS That it's gonna be a cracker.
Carbon grey ten for me, looking forward to that sexy 2.5d glass on a black front and grey device.
Drooling over next week!

I was working on the wrong thread! LOL

Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.

@Stephen hahaha
I'm coming from the m9 so the ten will be like well u all Know of course

eneka said:
Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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How you finding size difference, I'm in a 6P and bothered about smaller screen
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eneka said:
Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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Hmm. I also using the 6p. Please explain how and why

eneka said:
Coming from a Nexus 6p, the phone is just nicer in every way.
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Yes also I had the 6p, I found it too big and clunky. I currently have the Lumia 950xl. While it is also a 5.7" screen, it is quite a bit smaller and lighter than the 6p. I also really did not like the camera strip at the back. Just could not get used to that at all.

I came from the shamu to the 6p so the screen size didn't bother me, and the phenomenal camera on the 6p made up for the ugly glass strip. Overall I'm extremely happy with the 6p but I have always been an HTC fan,(I of course had the M9 and A9 both in between, but both had their limitations) so I'm really really anxious to try a more pure stock sense experience coupled with very promising hardware!!

How is the notification sound for you guys? Idk if it is my unit, or its me, or they are all in general like that but the notification sound is kinda muffled
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How you finding size difference, I'm in a 6P and bothered about smaller screen
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That's one of the main reasons I switched, the 6p was just was just to big for me. Loving the smaller screen size.
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Hmm. I also using the 6p. Please explain how and why
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The HTC 10 feel a whole lot more solid and heftier. The fit and finish just feels nicer, no mismatching plastics or pieces that aren't flush, there is no black plastic "ring" around the screen that dents and comes off easily, button feel more solid
I used to be diehard pure Android only and have tried different skins over the years, even stuff like PA or some other custom wrong. But I'm finding myself liking sense a lot. Hated the previous version on my One S. I am itching to root just so I can block ads...

the way i would describe it is real metal especially compared to the A9 and X9 (which has thin metal like the iPhone)
the 10 is simply steel and glass, with no plastics in your sight (except the hidden strips)
overall a screaming premium feel, my TPU case is killing the whole aura so i am really anxious for my Spigen ExactFit to arrive, also the Fitbag black rave pouch looks amazingly classy with it

My eyesight isn't what it used to be so I've been using phablets - Note 2, Note 4, Moto X Pure Edition - and I was a little worried about the smaller screen size on the HTC 10. I've discovered, however, that it's very easy for me to read the HTC 10 screen. I prefer Sense over TouchWiz, but I've been spoiled by the flexibility of Nova Prime and I installed it on my HTC 10 after about an hour. So far, I'm very pleased with the HTC 10. I'll know more after I've used it for a week or two.
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Perry977 said:
How is the notification sound for you guys? Idk if it is my unit, or its me, or they are all in general like that but the notification sound is kinda muffled
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I'm hard of hearing but I can easily hear the notification sound on my HTC 10, even without my hearing aids.

I got mine yesterday (so far I love it) and I just now noticed there is a slight gap between the top of the screen and the frame. Has anyone else noticed this?

OK after having phone a solid 8 hours with 80% of my apps installed compared to Samsung S7 Edge is a mini review:
Nice build quality, slightly smaller screen, cleaner UI but with some idiosyncrasies, very good sound, type-C connector.
I am finding the more apps I install the slower the phone is becoming with some lag and stutter, the camera is quite good but Edge is better overall especially in low light, Edge is blazing fast despite touch wiz, Edge screen is gorgeous and battery life is probably better but will withhold judgement on HTC 10 for a day or two.
Overall a very good phone but not enough to best the Edge. Marketing will be an issue for this phone and may be difficult for buyers to justify at same price point if the preorder $100 discount is not available.
The wow factor is almost there IMHO.
Will keep testing with an open mind.
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk

take a look at this durability video
pretty solid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ62ixgzhrI

I'm digging' the heck out of it! What a fantastic device!
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk

so buy oneplus 3 or nexus 6p ?

i want to buy new phone after nexus 4 so should buy one plus 3 or nexus 6p and why

Oneplus 3. Nexus is quite a bit more expensive and doesn't provide too many goods to make it worth the price.

Wait for the OnePlus 3T (to be announced this 15th november).
- https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/09/oneplus-4/
- http://www.techradar.com/news/oneplus-3t-launch-all-but-confirmed-for-november-15-launch

Demian3112 said:
Oneplus 3. Nexus is quite a bit more expensive and doesn't provide too many goods to make it worth the price.
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its quite the same price around 400$

ahmedvip2008 said:
its quite the same price around 400$
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The 64GB variant it €490 here.

ahmedvip2008 said:
its quite the same price around 400$
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Even at the same price I'd still recommend the OnePlus 3. It's more future proof in terms of specs and currently has one of the biggest communities of developers actively working on it. And even if you do decide to stick with OxygenOS, it's pretty damn close to stock Android anyways.

grufwub said:
Even at the same price I'd still recommend the OnePlus 3. It's more future proof in terms of specs and currently has one of the biggest communities of developers actively working on it. And even if you do decide to stick with OxygenOS, it's pretty damn close to stock Android anyways.
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so if the company stop supporting the device the developers will still support 6p is that also with 1+3
i have nexus 4 and dev still support it with android 7.1

ahmedvip2008 said:
so if the company stop supporting the device the developers will still support 6p is that also with 1+3
i have nexus 4 and dev still support it with android 7.1
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ofc the only benefit of buying a nexus device is that google provides new android version half a year before any other brand and all other devices must wait till source gets released. but other than that the hardware is not good enough. if you are not into high performance games and want allways newest android version first then go for nexus. but you get better hardware for better cost if you go for oneplus ( buy oneplus3 t)

nadejo said:
ofc the only benefit of buying a nexus device is that google provides new android version half a year before any other brand and all other devices must wait till source gets released. but other than that the hardware is not good enough. if you are not into high performance games and want allways newest android version first then go for nexus. but you get better hardware for better cost if you go for oneplus ( buy oneplus3 t)
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Couldn't have put it better myself

I have both. There are a few things that may sway a decision. The 6P has nougat source and the available 7.X ROMs reflect that. This isn't a shot at anyone developing here, they just don't have it, or even a stock base to work with. If you like back fingerprint scanners you might lean toward the Nexus, if you're like me and don't that would favor the 3. Updates favor the 6 as mentioned already. The 3 is easier to handle without the massive bezels. The speakerphone through the 6 is very loud if need be and can be easily heard over background noise like a TV. In that regard the 3 is not bad at all but is outgunned by the 6 speakers.
For myself I was tired of keeping up two phones and wanted to move to a dual SIM. That combined with the fact that after several backside fingerprint scanners I'm starting to hate them the move was an easy one to make. I don't miss the 6P, it was and is a great device but the 3 is punching well above its cost.

krabman said:
I have both. There are a few things that may sway a decision. The 6P has nougat source and the available 7.X ROMs reflect that. This isn't a shot at anyone developing here, they just don't have it, or even a stock base to work with. If you like back fingerprint scanners you might lean toward the Nexus, if you're like me and don't that would favor the 3. Updates favor the 6 as mentioned already. The 3 is easier to handle without the massive bezels. The speakerphone through the 6 is very loud if need be and can be easily heard over background noise like a TV. In that regard the 3 is not bad at all but is outgunned by the 6 speakers.
For myself I was tired of keeping up two phones and wanted to move to a dual SIM. That combined with the fact that after several backside fingerprint scanners I'm starting to hate them the move was an easy one to make. I don't miss the 6P, it was and is a great device but the 3 is punching well above its cost.
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what is the best screen for reading or watching videos

ahmedvip2008 said:
what is the best screen for reading or watching videos
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if it was for reading and watching video content I prefer 6p. bigger screen, bigger resolution, dual facing speakers

I had the same dilemma, but couldn't get hold of a 6p so went for the op3. Awesome phone with new community builds coming thick and fast. I love mine :laugh:

Nexus 6p all day, every day. Better camera, better quality, better software better battery, better everything.

I think you forgot the hardware in nexus it's sucks
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tixoo said:
Nexus 6p all day, every day. Better camera, better quality, better software better battery, better everything.
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Dude you can be a fanboy but don't lie... The 6P has a better camera, screen with dual front facing speakers and that's about it. The OnePlus 3 trump's it in battery life, it destroys it in absolute performance and is much quicker, has much more RAM that can be used without the processor overheating (S810 overheats like crazy, if someone says otherwise, they do not know what they are talking about). The OP3 doesn't snap in half like a cookie when bent, not to mention the fact that the rear glass over the camera cracks extremely easily. The fingerprint scanner is WAY faster on the OP3 Than the 6P. Camera in daylight is better but low light the 6P Is better, but the difference is surprisingly low. For OP, if you are any sort of power user at all and you do a lot of multi tasking or gaming for example, you will have to get the OP3 as the 6P slows down massive as the CPU goes from using the A57 core at 2.0ghz to not being able to use them and going to the garbage A53 cores to do the task which lead to lag and stutter. Not to mention when browsing the 6P is locked to the A53 cores because it'd overheat otherwise and because of this browsing is super slow. Last but not least, the OP3 beats it in audio quality outputted from the headphone jack, it's louder and has wider soundstage while sounding more crisp (you can really notice it in the base) and clean

vagelis74 said:
I think you forgot the hardware in nexus it's sucks
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why because processor ?!

Yes my nexus 6p here in Greece the summer easy frizz eggs
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Both dope phones boils down to (no pun intended) SD810 vs SD820 and fastest updates + source vs delayed updates + source
Personal preference really if updates matter to you go for the 6P if not will not be disappointed by the OP3

I had a 6P and switched to the Oneplus 3. I was sick of carrying an iPhone 6s for work and a 6P for my personal line. The dual sim capability is incredibly convenient but I would imagine not something that most people end up needing. Other than that here are my thoughts:
Speakers: 6P. If only for the placement. Maybe I am holding it wrong but I always seem to cover up my speaker when holding the phone in landscape mode. It sounds just fine otherwise. Most of the time I use earbuds anyway.
Camera: Tie. No real world difference for me. Both are great.
Fingerprint Sensor: OP3. Location is better when it's sitting on my desk, screen side up. It is also much faster than the 6P.
Buttons: OP3. I HATED the volume rocker location on the 6P. I was constantly changing volume when holding the phone in portrait mode and typing or whatever. This really annoyed the sh!t out of me. Also having the volume buttons on the opposite side of of the power button is better in my opinion. The notification slider is convenient, too.
Signal Strength: OP3 easily. I have a T-Mobile sim in sim1 and Verizon in sim2. The reception on T-Mobile sim is certainly better on the OP3. Not the case with the Verizon sim because of band compatability.
Feel: OP3. This thing feels more premium than the 6P...if that matters to you. It's also easier to hold.
Software: 6P. For the speed and guarantee of updates but OP3 Nougat will make this a tie. Nova Launcher though. And I don't care for rooting and ROMs anymore.
Screen: 6P? Yes it's more clear but really the OP3 screen is all I need in terms of size and resolutionw. One thing the 6P has going for it though is a totally flat screen. This makes screen protectors easier to apply without the ring around the edges.
Battery: OP3. Probably due to screen size and resolution. Also probably due to the reception being better. And Dash Charging is faster than Rapid Charging on the Nexus.
If I think of more, I will add to this post.

To who upgraded directly from the One M8: any regrets?

Hi guys.
The title says it all. I'm still holding to my almost 3 year old M8 but I'm afraid I'll regret it if I buy the HTC 10. Am I dead wrong?
Cheers

Badelhas said:
Hi guys.
The title says it all. I'm still holding to my almost 3 year old M8 but I'm afraid I'll regret it if I buy the HTC 10. Am I dead wrong?
Cheers
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I don't regret upgrading, the 10 is a solid device with everything done right in my opinion. Excellent camera, best sound, the Snapdragon 820 is solid, with good battery life, teamed up with rapid charging. It's a no brainer in my opinion

I miss the FM radio and IR remote, but otherwise I'm happy with my 10.

eckharttim said:
I don't regret upgrading, the 10 is a solid device with everything done right in my opinion. Excellent camera, best sound, the Snapdragon 820 is solid, with good battery life, teamed up with rapid charging. It's a no brainer in my opinion
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Thanks for your opinions. What about the stereo front speakers, do you miss them?
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I miss the FM radio and IR remote, but otherwise I'm happy with my 10.
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Badelhas said:
Thanks for your opinions. What about the stereo front speakers, do you miss them?
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No, you still have two speakers, just not both front facing, but I think the 10 sounds better. I agree about the radio app, but there are other ways around that with apps so not an issue here.

What about the screen? Is it good or it's so and so only?
Cheers

Badelhas said:
What about the screen? Is it good or it's so and so only?
Cheers
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Compared to m8, screen of 10 is way superior, no contest there. Colors are more vibrant due to quad hd. Just think of it this way -htc 10 is the best overall and all around compared to other flagships of its year. When it comes to specific feature other brands may excel but the overall experience with 10 is better imo.

Ms_Trishlee said:
Compared to m8, screen of 10 is way superior, no contest there. Colors are more vibrant due to quad hd. Just think of it this way -htc 10 is the best overall and all around compared to other flagships of its year. When it comes to specific feature other brands may excel but the overall experience with 10 is better imo.
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I've read that it's difficult to read the screen in the sunlight but since the M8 is also not very good I probably won't notice any difference. The polarization issue worries me as well since I don't have a clue if my Ray-Ban classic aviators sunglasses are polarized or not.
Since there not a single physical store here in my town (or even my country, Portugal, from all I know) I don't have a way to test it.

No regrets here, have my 10 for a pretty long time now. Only miss the dual front facing speakers sometimes, the 10s are no match for the M8. But the 10 still sounds pretty good. Most impressive upgrade was the camera, best one HTC ever made. All in all, its the better phone, period.

Thank you all for your input. I guess I'll wait for the official announcement of the 11 and then decide but from the rumors I'll be buying the HTC 10
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I did the upgrade and I´m very happy with the 10. I´m a fan of HTC since the Qteck until now.
My advice? Don´t by HTC!!! Why? Because you live in Portugal and there is no assistance at all.
Conselho de amigo. Nunca tive problemas com esta marca (excepto com a bateria do HTC Diamond) e sempre os encomendei do Reino Unido.
Mas sem assistência de marca vou ter de mudar ..... infelizmente!

in term of holding in one hand M8 is better
no HTC 10 cant beat M8 in term of speakers
HTC 10 does not have anything that called "best". everything is decent.
Yes camera is better on HTC 10.
in term of speed sure HTC 10 will be faster but not a day and night. before I give my opinion, i also have Oneplus 3 in my hand. It blow my HTC 10 away.
I forgot what sot I had on my M8 but HTC 10 has a decent battery life.
If I were you I would wait for HTC U 11.

I'm really happy with the upgrade. The Camera is brilliant on the 10, honestly, it's no worse than the S7 quality wise, it just takes longer to focus. In addition, the screen on the 10 is brilliant, very well calibrated with great contrast for an LCD, not sure where all the criticism there is coming from.
Speed is great, audio through the headphone jack is some of the best I've heard from a phone, especially since there is no background hiss with my sensitive earphones. Fingerprint sensor is underrated, it makes things so much faster.
Speakers are ok, they're just as good in terms of quality but have a notch lower max volume. I personally really like the design and feel of the 10, it's probably the most solid phone I've ever held.
The only thing I regret is batterylife, I've gone from 4-5hrs screen-on on the M8 to around 2:30 to 3:30 on the 10. Quick Charge 3.0 does somewhat remedy this, I got a QC powerbank, but I would still prefer at least 4. Otherwise, fantastic phone, I would see no reason to upgrade to be honest, I didn't even need to upgrade from the M8 besides the camera and screen calibration.

10 is much better just for the hardware buttons instead of onscreen. Much wasted space. I used to think I liked the onscreen buttons but now it just looks useless and ridiculous. I could never go back to onscreen with no fingerprint sensor. I still love my M8 but when I use it I hate trying to unlock it with my fingerprint sensor, forgetting it doesn't have one. the wasted black bar with the HTC logo really makes it look like a design flaw. Other than FM radio and IR sensor, the 10 is much better in every way. I never thought the front facing speakers were all what people crack them up to be. The volume was still lower than other phones. And I actually compared them side by side before buying them, I actually thought the 10 was a tad louder with better clarity. The 10 is a perfect phone for me and get sick of people complaining about no waterproofing and no wireless charging. Both are just gimmicks for me, I never throw my phone in a toilet and if I did I have Uh Oh protection. And my 10 and M8 have had no problems getting wet, not like my Nexus phones did, they would malfunction just from sweating too much. I've owned quite a few HTC phones and have had no manufacturer defects or no reasons to ever use insurance or Uh Oh Protection. Both are well designed little tanks. All the HTC bashing I keep seeing is out of control. It is really messing up a great thing, HTC has been a great company I could never see me switching to Samjunk or iPhone. The 10 is a perfect phone for me but i will be disappointed if the U 11 doesn't build on that perfection and bust out with a new and improved HTC 10. The 10 charges so fast I do not need a wireless charger, plus most people cannot keep their phones out of their hands long enough to lay it down to charge anyway. Plus I would rather drop my phone next to a pool without shattering than drop it in a pool. Either way, Uh Oh protection has got our back.

I really don't get it when people say 10 has a bad or below average battery life compared to other flagships. I am getting an average of 6.5 to 7hrs screen on time on this phone, and this is pure stock android nougat

I came to the 10 straight from the m8. As others have mentioned, I do miss the IR blaster, but I kept my m8 so I just use it as a remote for the bedroom now.
Everything else is perfect, especially since virtually every developer that worked on stuff for the m8 migrated to the 10 as well.

Well after one year of debating with myself I just couldn't bear my distorting top speaker on the HTC one m8, which I otherwise still love, and finally ordered the HTC 10. Should get it Thursday.
I hope I don't regret it, I ordered the glacier silver since I've heard the nicks are not so noticeable. I'm coming from the gunmetal grey on the M8 and don't use a case, just a glass screen protector.
One question, please: I have the in ear headphones Xiaomi Piston 3.0. How do the bundled HTC Hi-res headphones compare? Are they any good?
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Badelhas said:
Well after one year of debating with myself I just couldn't bear my distorting top speaker on the HTC one m8, which I otherwise still love, and finally ordered the HTC 10. Should get it Thursday.
I hope I don't regret it, I ordered the glacier silver since I've heard the nicks are not so noticeable. I'm coming from the gunmetal grey on the M8 and don't use a case, just a glass screen protector.
One question, please: I have the in ear headphones Xiaomi Piston 3.0. How do the bundled HTC Hi-res headphones compare? Are they any good?
Cheers
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I have both sets, not an exact science but I prefer the HTC ones

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I really don't get it when people say 10 has a bad or below average battery life compared to other flagships. I am getting an average of 6.5 to 7hrs screen on time on this phone, and this is pure stock android nougat
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Ms_Trishlee said:
I really don't get it when people say 10 has a bad or below average battery life compared to other flagships. I am getting an average of 6.5 to 7hrs screen on time on this phone, and this is pure stock android nougat
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7h of SOT?! I never had more than 3,5h of SOT on any smartphone. On the M8 I had 3h normally but I have auto brightness, wifi, bluetooth and GPS on, and since I dont have Wifi at work I only use mobile data (LTE). Could that be the culprit or am I just having bad luck with the smartphones I´m getting?
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What phone to replace the Pixel 2XL - Getting bored annoyed by things

I have had the Pixel 2 XL for a bit over a year now. Allready swapped it 2 times (Audio problems and Screen Problems) and begin to get annoyed by some aspects of it :
- The 3D-Wrapped-***-screen - This screen is bad. I slowly get used to it but find myself put off by how the colors look and how my 6P had a better screen. Thanks to the absurd 2.75D Screen curvature I cant get a proper Glass cover for it and have settled on a plastic protector. It looks horrible.
- Software bugs -> How come I still get random bugs / freezes on a Google Phone with Google software ? Why do icons sometimes disappear in the recents view ?
- Sound -> I loved the stereo speakers on the 6P, I hate those on the 2XL.
And many other gripes...
I have two choices right now :
- continue to RMA the phone each time something breaks (speakers are at it again I believe) and finaly get my money back after 4-5 times, like the 6P in the end (not a bad deal if you think about it).
- sell it and get somethign else (OnePlus 6 / 6T ? Pocophone F1 ? Mi 9 ? Other ?)
What are the aspects you hate on this phone ? Which one has you drooling right now ? Is there even still a phone with a flat screen (realy dont get this idiotic trend... same as glass backs without NFC / Wireless charging...)
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I don't have software bugs on my Pixel 2 XL - no freezes, no disappearing icons, nothing. Works like a clockwork :good:
My speakers are decent, also no problems. I don't use them extensively, though. The screen is better after I had to replace it (dropped the phone on solid tiles), my original screen was from October 2017. But the original one was not too bad, I got used to it.
I never would replace my phone with a non-Google phone - never had such good software on an Android device. Not to speak of fast updates, some phones just got Android P and I can install Q meanwhile.

Remove that screen protector!
A few scratch still look 10000 times better than any screen protector

ChriKn said:
I have had the Pixel 2 XL for a bit over a year now. Allready swapped it 2 times (Audio problems and Screen Problems) and begin to get annoyed by some aspects of it :
- The 3D-Wrapped-***-screen - This screen is bad. I slowly get used to it but find myself put off by how the colors look and how my 6P had a better screen. Thanks to the absurd 2.75D Screen curvature I cant get a proper Glass cover for it and have settled on a plastic protector. It looks horrible.
- Software bugs -> How come I still get random bugs / freezes on a Google Phone with Google software ? Why do icons sometimes disappear in the recents view ?
- Sound -> I loved the stereo speakers on the 6P, I hate those on the 2XL.
And many other gripes...
I have two choices right now :
- continue to RMA the phone each time something breaks (speakers are at it again I believe) and finaly get my money back after 4-5 times, like the 6P in the end (not a bad deal if you think about it).
- sell it and get somethign else (OnePlus 6 / 6T ? Pocophone F1 ? Mi 9 ? Other ?)
What are the aspects you hate on this phone ? Which one has you drooling right now ? Is there even still a phone with a flat screen (realy dont get this idiotic trend... same as glass backs without NFC / Wireless charging...)
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Samsung 10e seems to be phone for you if you are looking for one with a flat screen. Oneplus 6t is a good option too but doesn't have wireless charging and camera is mediocre compared to pixel.

nikhil.agrawal said:
Samsung 10e seems to be phone for you if you are looking for one with a flat screen. Oneplus 6t is a good option too but doesn't have wireless charging and camera is mediocre compared to pixel.
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If S10's camera is anything like the S9, then it's not much better than the 6t... It's amazing for videos, but for stills, nothing beats the Pixel (2 and 3)... This is coming from a photographer...

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If S10's camera is anything like the S9, then it's not much better than the 6t... It's amazing for videos, but for stills, nothing beats the Pixel (2 and 3)... This is coming from a photographer...
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Yeah I'm aware of that. Pixel produces the most natural looking pictures.

It's a REALLY tough decision, in my opinion. I've been debating the same thing for a couple weeks now too. My big thing is front facing speakers, an absolute must for me. I've seriously considered the Razer 2 but I've recently decided against it. I have the opportunity to get a Pixel 3XL for next to nothing. I'll probably hop on that train. I love this phone too. I'm just ready to move on. My wife just got the S10+.... that's what's motivating me to upgrade. Beautiful phone but I need more freedom than what a Snapdragon Sammy provides...

I don't hate anything about the 2xl. The screen did have some issues but everything has been perfect with the warranty replacement I received last November. A headphone jack would be nice but not a deal breaker with the improvements in wireless earbuds. The front speakers weren't any better on my 6P and it felt like a less reliable phone due to potential battery and bootloop issues. I prefer the overall design and build quality of the 2xl. I'll wait for the Pixel 4 before I think about a new phone.
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seabro01 said:
I don't hate anything about the 2xl. The screen did have some issues but everything has been perfect with the warranty replacement I received last November. A headphone jack would be nice but not a deal breaker with the improvements in wireless earbuds. The front speakers weren't any better on my 6P and it felt like a less reliable phone due to potential battery and bootloop issues. I prefer the overall design and build quality of the 2xl. I'll wait for the Pixel 4 before I think about a new phone.
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This sums up my situation perfectly. My 2xl is working fantastic and no current phones really give me that special feeling. Patiently waiting for pixel 4xl

1. Never used a screen protector since I got the phone October 2017. Thought I would miss it since I had been using tempered glass for years but I don't and my screen is just fine.
2. No bugs or freezes here. The only time I ever even restart is the monthly updates. Way better aging experience than my previous Nexus 5X or any other phone as a matter of fact.
3. It's stereo speakers and gets loud and clear enough. If I want louder I cast it to my any number of speaker I have around the house.
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Like the above post, same feelings here.
The screen protector dilemma is my biggest issue. Searching Amazon, it's hard to find a good one. I really don't want to purchase another one, so I've been rocking the same screen protector for quite some time, even though it's dirty. I don't watch anything on here worth quality(Netflix, Hulu, etc) and mainly use Bluetooth headphones or Bluetooth speakers.
Just recently, my father has gotten an S10 through those buy 1 and get 1 deals, but it's too complicated for him, so I've been thinking of setting my Pixel up clean for him and swapping, but it's just hard to leave Google after being with them for so long, lol.
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Before i ordered the pixel 2 xl, i read its review on gsmarena and this was quoted " overall, we're looking at some of the best audio outputs we've ever seen. " After purchase, i started seeing all sorts of negative reviews concerning it's audio quality using wired headphones.
On one hand, i am filled with excitement that i will be owning this great phone and on the other , i am confused, saying to myself, what have you just done?
As real owners of this device, i felt that this is the right place to be. Please can someone speak his mind? Thanks.
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I come back to pixel for three things
1) camera 2) software which is best among android 3) speedy update s
I hate or dislike few things
)Ear piece is of poor quality i.e low volume and call clarity is average ..it was so great on iphone xr
2) loudspeaker is not good as compare to competitors i.e s9 plus, iphone , U11 etc, p20 pro etc. Its same for audio output from headphone. I will not recommend this phone to music lovers
3) brightness is low . You really need to drag the brightness slider to maximum to make it bright especially indoor
4) design is boring but then its more practical
So i guess every phone will have its pros and cons and no phone will be perfect in every thing . I am saying this after using so many flagships and switching from one to others ..there will be always some compromise so just look what matter to you most in phone and then select phone based on those requirements

Visibility outside?

How the visibility of the phone outside please?

Outstanding.
Coming from a Razer Phone 2, the outside brightness/visibility is on another level.
Having the display set to colorful mode along with auto brightness helps a lot.
Manual brightness doesn't allow for maximum peak brightness.

samussamus1 said:
Outstanding.
Coming from a Razer Phone 2, the outside brightness/visibility is on another level.
Having the display set to colorful mode along with auto brightness helps a lot.
Manual brightness doesn't allow for maximum peak brightness.
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Hmm many thanks. I have someone on another forum saying the software on this phone is a big letdown. What are your thoughts?

marvi0 said:
Hmm many thanks. I have someone on another forum saying the software on this phone is a big letdown. What are your thoughts?
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No problem.
"A big letdown" is harsh in my opinion.
People were complaining about third party launcher support, however this seems to have been fixed now.
Personally I use the stock launcher, it's pretty decent.
I have no complaints. It's fast, the screen quality is fantastic, the battery life is the best I've experienced yet.
Gaming is as good as it's going to get on an Android.
The charging is just crazy. When using a 11v PPS charger the device barely warms up.
The speakers are the best I've heard yet, absolutely smashes the Oneplus 8 Pro out of the water.
I could go on and on! I've had it since day 1, since update v4.11 I haven't had any software issues.

samussamus1 said:
No problem.
"A big letdown" is harsh in my opinion.
People were complaining about third party launcher support, however this seems to have been fixed now.
Personally I use the stock launcher, it's pretty decent.
I have no complaints. It's fast, the screen quality is fantastic, the battery life is the best I've experienced yet.
Gaming is as good as it's going to get on an Android.
The charging is just crazy. When using a 11v PPS charger the device barely warms up.
The speakers are the best I've heard yet, absolutely smashes the Oneplus 8 Pro out of the water.
I could go on and on! I've had it since day 1, since update v4.11 I haven't had any software issues.
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Hmm thanks buddy. How about in hand feel? What phone did you have before and where did you buy yours?

marvi0 said:
Hmm thanks buddy. How about in hand feel? What phone did you have before and where did you buy yours?
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No problem.
Without a case, it's like a bar of soap.
I did get a Nubia clear case with the phone, but this was junk. I used it whilst a better case was being shipped.
I now have an digital camo style case from Aliexpress for £10 and the quality is outstanding, the grip is great (like my previous spigen cases).
A complaint actually, the accidental side touches are annoying.
I always accidentally press on a suggest video within Youtube when I'm watching a video.
The Oneplus 8 Pro has fantastic anti-touch software built in, hopefully Nubia will do something similar.

samussamus1 said:
No problem.
Without a case, it's like a bar of soap.
I did get a Nubia clear case with the phone, but this was junk. I used it whilst a better case was being shipped.
I now have an digital camo style case from Aliexpress for £10 and the quality is outstanding, the grip is great (like my previous spigen cases).
A complaint actually, the accidental side touches are annoying.
I always accidentally press on a suggest video within Youtube when I'm watching a video.
The Oneplus 8 Pro has fantastic anti-touch software built in, hopefully Nubia will do something similar.
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Hmm thanks. I think the accidental touches would really annoy me, and I wish I could actually see one before buying it ?. But none to see here in the UK.

samussamus1 said:
No problem.
Without a case, it's like a bar of soap.
I did get a Nubia clear case with the phone, but this was junk. I used it whilst a better case was being shipped.
I now have an digital camo style case from Aliexpress for £10 and the quality is outstanding, the grip is great (like my previous spigen cases).
A complaint actually, the accidental side touches are annoying.
I always accidentally press on a suggest video within Youtube when I'm watching a video.
The Oneplus 8 Pro has fantastic anti-touch software built in, hopefully Nubia will do something similar.
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Link to the case or a picture please.
Thanks

zayidhs said:
Link to the case or a picture please.
Thanks
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No probs,
https://a.aliexpress.com/_BUaGcV