Next Phone - HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion

Next Phone - HTC 10 Guides, News, & Discussion

Still not found a suitable replacement for my beloved 10. Every new phone appears to be roughly the same and has that horrible glass back that will scratch. I use my phone raw and keep it in a pouch, 10 has been dropped 4 times, still looks new. Hoping LG G7, Oneplus 5T/6 is good as I want unlocked bootloader, DAC, reasonable camera and 6GB ram, thoughts?

gsw5700 said:
Still not found a suitable replacement for my beloved 10. Every new phone appears to be roughly the same and has that horrible glass back that will scratch. I use my phone raw and keep it in a pouch, 10 has been dropped 4 times, still looks new. Hoping LG G7, Oneplus 5T/6 is good as I want unlocked bootloader, DAC, reasonable camera and 6GB ram, thoughts?
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I'm considering Huawei P10 or Nokia 8. No glass on the back, and they both seem like top of the line devices

you want something that doesn't exist atm, the most similar that come in my mind is LG V30. mass wants glass + borderless.

I was going to get a Pixel XL but have seen some videos on YouTube that totally put me off!!.. looks really easy to damage and snap in half with little force! Also the screen looks poor. I've liked my HTC10 the only issue has been updates (unlocked UK).

If you don't need to change, just wait one more year !

SIRKRA said:
you want something that doesn't exist atm, the most similar that come in my mind is LG V30. mass wants glass + borderless.
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V30 is great, but the LG's os is still far from stock
Only a couple of days untill U11 Plus, maybe it's worth to wait and see?

gsw5700 said:
Still not found a suitable replacement for my beloved 10. Every new phone appears to be roughly the same and has that horrible glass back that will scratch. I use my phone raw and keep it in a pouch, 10 has been dropped 4 times, still looks new. Hoping LG G7, Oneplus 5T/6 is good as I want unlocked bootloader, DAC, reasonable camera and 6GB ram, thoughts?
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What are your thoughts on the htc u11 or u11 plus?

I personally think the 11 is just another all glass clone with bezels that are too big. Waiting for the next phone that offers something different. In the meantime, my 10 is ok although battery capacity is down to 74%

I'm still using my 10 (thanks to HTC 11 that make me save the money this year)
Keep hoping that HTC realize they mistake this year and create a proper flagship next year.
If no hope from HTC then it's time to move on to other brands, I will look into Sony first, Oneplus or Huawei... but Samsung is the last choice

LG V30

Huawei p10 - i read somewhere that battery life is not that good, but as much as i know this is google's problem. I would suggest you to look at Iphone 7/7+

U11 plus looks class

Sony z3 compact was the best phone I have ever had.
Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk

Moved to Nokia 8. 1 day with 6 hours SOT battery life...insane + Oreo beta which is very stable and security patches on time updates. Have to say that HTC10 camera is above the one from Nokia and the fingerprint senzor is much faster on the Htc...but I can live with this

I'm down to 84% capacity with my battery which I'm sad about because I haven't seen much reason to upgrade from this phone. I'll probably end up with the U12 (or whatever they choose to call it). I had a U11 shortly but it didn't feel like enough of an upgrade to me. Recording at a couple concerts with my 10 over the past 4 days made me realize how much I love great mics so I wouldn't touch a Pixel or an iPhone. It's Samsung, LG, and HTC for me and with the stability of my 10, I can't see myself leaving HTC unless they leave me.

You could pay £100 for new battery (if you can't charge during the day) and wait for next awesome phone

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Going to buy LG G4, Need some guidance.

I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards

My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.

A lot of boot loop issues with early production models. It may not be the case with later production models, but these boot loop issues take 5-8 months to show. If you are buying brand new, make sure you have at least a 12 month warranty.
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i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?

Guys, friend of mines has LG G4 but it's volume down when it's pressed it doesn't work, it gives him a recent apps instead. How he fix it ??
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raptorddd said:
i would like to read on this matter of bootloops. so far i heard all 505xxxxx have bootloop.. and i will like to read more on this.. can anyone give me link to discussion of this matter.?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/lg-g4-stuck-bootloop-t3268734
Bootloop has been reported as far as 603.

510's for model US991 seem good. We have it, and haven't had ANY of the reported issues (bootloop nor others).
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I will buy Pure Now. As, I am buying from outside my country and I dont want to take any risk.
Thank You everyone for your kind and prompt replies.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?

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What is your opinion on HTC One M9? Should I consider it?
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.

Sammae7 said:
My opinion would be to buy a G3 or Moto X Pure, if you're looking for something on the cheaper end. G4 is a mess.
If extra cash isn't an issue I'd say wait and check out the HTC 10 tomorrow. The Huawei Mate 8 looks sweet, too, if you can find one.
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I had am M9 for less than a week. It's a beautiful phone that functioned fine but it got hot fast. I had GPS on for maybe five minutes and the phone got hot enough for me to feel it on my leg through my jeans. Very warm. If you can handle that, it's a nice phone.
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What about OP2?

I've never owned a of the OP devices, only because I could never get ahold of them.
Currently, I'm super excited about the HTC 10. It is sounding amazing. Can't wait for a few reviews.

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I am going to buy LG G4. I have heard a lot about hardware failure of this phone. So, what is your opinion on this? Need your guidance,please.
Regards
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If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.

G4 is a beautiful device it does as commands and is loyal. I bought mine recently and it looks elegant with brown leather. Yes it had hardware failure with 505 and i did get mine keeping that in mind. I own a 512 EU H model. Rooted. Works as a charm. Still optimus has its moments but
Thank god it isnt touchwiz. The camera is jewel and it paints magnificently on the patriot class 10 64gb i reserved for it. Other than that its your call.
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Another vote for the nexus 6p from me. A big amoled screen with front facing speaker running the latest android is a perfect combination. It may be expensive outside the US but if u already consider the m9, the 6p won't be much of a stretch in term of budget. No sdcard and removable battery are nexus' only downsides

Quickdraw996 said:
If I may throw my hat in the ring, I have a G4 and am quite dissatisfied. I am getting a Nexus for my next phone and I suggest you take a good look at them as well.
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Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though

Good Son 5 said:
Any specific reason that you're dissatisfied with the G4?
Nexus are certainly nice phones though
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I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.

Quickdraw996 said:
I was excited because I finally got a phone that wasn't trash and was expecting to get the ROMs and Kernels etc. that a flagship usually has and was lucky enough to get with lesser phones like the original LG Volt. I was quickly screwed by LG. A spectacular phone ruined by hardware problems and a locked bootloader. I won't have these problems with a Nexus, plus the price is better and it has support for GSM and CDMA networks. I can go to and from any carrier I choose while not having to wait 9 months for them to push OTAs or load my phone with trash. It is for all intents and purposes, my dream phone. The only thing missing is external storage, which may change with the next one. If you don't care about root and what not, buy a Samsung. The hardware and software are superb, unless you don't like TouchWiz of course. I don't mind OEM skins, so it doesn't bother me but some hate it. If you don't want a sammy, I would also recommend HTC flagships, they are praised by everyone I know who owns one.
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I guess it can be summed up as having too high of expectations.
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Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.

Good Son 5 said:
Expectations can really be everything. If having complete control over the phone is the top priority, getting a Nexus is the obvious solution. Especially if you want other features like GSM/CDMA compatibility. And the quick updates are great of course.
I suppose I have the benefit of lower expectations - well, mainly in regards to the lack of an unlocked bootloader and the potential for bootloop issues (or the need for a warranty). For me, expandable storage is a must. As is having a great camera (and all the phones mentioned seemingly do). I also like the replaceable battery - as it has the potential to add long-term life to the phone. OEM skins aren't the worst thing, though TouchWiz isn't my favorite. Obviously, I would love complete control of the phone, or at least the ability to completely remove and bloatware I don't want, but most of the time I am happy enough using a launcher like Nova.
The Nexus is a little big for me as well. I'm coming from a 5" screen, so even the 5.5" on the G4 is a little big - and likely would be too big if not for the relatively small size of the phone otherwise. When I was at Best Buy recently, the S7 was definitely the best device to hold in my hand. Looks great, works great, but cost too much for me right now. Also, while this may not be a factor for everyone, the Gear VR did not meet my expectations - and certainly gave me concerns about impact on my eyes and/or brain, as well as doubtful how long the battery would last using it
In the end, ordering a G4 (with a US warranty) + case, screen protector and tax was less than $350. Sure, I won't be able to root it (at least right now), and I will always be cautious about the bootloop occurring, but that seems like a great deal for less than half the price of the S7, and $200+ less than a Nexus.
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Good luck. I hope you like it.

Go ahead, burn me to the ground... M9 or 10?

I realize I'm pretty much asking to get flamed here....
Got my HTC 10 in the mail yesterday. Unboxed it - sure is pretty. Powered it on and very quickly encountered truckloads of dissappointment.
I'm coming off the HTC M8, loved that phone for 2 years - but the screen is falling apart (my son hit it with a rock....). I'd heard that the M9 was kind of a bust - and that the 10 was considered to be a major course correction after that.
But I can't stand News Republic managing my BlinkFeed, and I can't stand Picassa managing my photos. And I need my drop down quick settings.
Long story short, if I keep it, I'm definitely going to have to root it and put Viper10 on it.
Thing is, if I'm going to have to go through all the work - why not save $300 and just get an M9? Sure I'd lose some processing power, but I'm pretty sure Viper runs well enough on it and that it would meet my needs for the next two years.
Or would it?
If any of you guys came off the M9 and went to the 10, I'd love to hear your perspective.
Thanks!

MadDogMaddux said:
I realize I'm pretty much asking to get flamed here....
Got my HTC 10 in the mail yesterday. Unboxed it - sure is pretty. Powered it on and very quickly encountered truckloads of dissappointment.
I'm coming off the HTC M8, loved that phone for 2 years - but the screen is falling apart (my son hit it with a rock....). I'd heard that the M9 was kind of a bust - and that the 10 was considered to be a major course correction after that.
But I can't stand News Republic managing my BlinkFeed, and I can't stand Picassa managing my photos. And I need my drop down quick settings.
Long story short, if I keep it, I'm definitely going to have to root it and put Viper10 on it.
Thing is, if I'm going to have to go through all the work - why not save $300 and just get an M9? Sure I'd lose some processing power, but I'm pretty sure Viper runs well enough on it and that it would meet my needs for the next two years.
Or would it?
If any of you guys came off the M9 and went to the 10, I'd love to hear your perspective.
Thanks!
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would suggest you to take a look around in m9 and m10 forums to decide from a development aspect which is better...
both won't come close to m8's development because its a 2year old device and got a gpe edition...

I think what I'm mostly looking for is a comparison between noticeable performance. I ran ViperOne on my M8 the entire time, so it's not like I am looking for specialty dev stuff. Just wondering if the performance offered by the 10 is worth the extra $300.

The biggest difference for me is battery life. I'm a very light user: texting, internet, social media, but my 10 gets much more battery life throughout the day. Plus, do we know if HTC added News Republic and did away with HTC Gallery with Android 6 on the M9? You might be stuck with it anyway.

I am okay with the 10 for now, not the worst device coming from the s7 with no root or development. I have the moto x pure 2015, kicks ass with cm13. I am waiting for the note 7, if not root, will wait for the nexus. HTC promised that it is a light skin, but really, it feels like htc skinned more with some bloat to make it look like it is a pure android experience but it i not. (thinking about aosp or cm13 ) I am using LeeDroid which I find it suits me better than Viper (opinion). But there is no way on the planet the software experience is close to a pure android.

SacredDeviL666 said:
would suggest you to take a look around in m9 and m10 forums to decide from a development aspect which is better...
both won't come close to m8's development because its a 2year old device and got a gpe edition...
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Ditto, ultimately, i am disappointed as well, i have an m7, m8 ,m9, and 10... And the m8 was by far, and i mean far, the best phone i ever had. What i am hoping is that these new nexus devices use a similar build tree to the 10, and maybe we can cross port GPE, possibly even fully working CM. Hopes and Dreams

aer0zer0 said:
Ditto, ultimately, i am disappointed as well, i have an m7, m8 ,m9, and 10... And the m8 was by far, and i mean far, the best phone i ever had. What i am hoping is that these new nexus devices use a similar build tree to the 10, and maybe we can cross port GPE, possibly even fully working CM. Hopes and Dreams
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Now you got me wondering if I should just go out and find another M8.

As someone who has used an m8 many times (sister's lo) but has not owned one(no nostalgic factor) and has bought a HTC 10, I feel like the 10 is better in every way except speaker loudness. I understand your problems but they seem minor software things that HTC has decided to change. so, as you have said, I would get a rom on it. The M8 is good but it's time to move on in my opinion; It was the best phone for its time but that's not true any longer.
An M9 is fine but the 10 is, again, better in every way (hardware wise). The main problems with it are the heat when you are doing anything intensive and the battery life. Again your issues are software related so i'd root and then make a decision if you still don't enjoy it.

MadDogMaddux said:
Now you got me wondering if I should just go out and find another M8.
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I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I liked the M9 slightly more than the M8. M8 had better battery life for sure, but M9 was faster with a better camera, but I found there's a little learning curve to get the best camera results.
I like the 10 way more than both of those, though. My M9 had News Republic, so I'm not sure how you've avoided that with the M8. If you're into custom roms, Ice has the option to use the HTC gallery app (in fact, you might even be able to download it from play store). And you also have the option to make quick settings look a little bit more like sense 7. See attached.

MadDogMaddux said:
I realize I'm pretty much asking to get flamed here....
Got my HTC 10 in the mail yesterday. Unboxed it - sure is pretty. Powered it on and very quickly encountered truckloads of dissappointment.
I'm coming off the HTC M8, loved that phone for 2 years - but the screen is falling apart (my son hit it with a rock....). I'd heard that the M9 was kind of a bust - and that the 10 was considered to be a major course correction after that.
But I can't stand News Republic managing my BlinkFeed, and I can't stand Picassa managing my photos. And I need my drop down quick settings.
Long story short, if I keep it, I'm definitely going to have to root it and put Viper10 on it.
Thing is, if I'm going to have to go through all the work - why not save $300 and just get an M9? Sure I'd lose some processing power, but I'm pretty sure Viper runs well enough on it and that it would meet my needs for the next two years.
Or would it?
If any of you guys came off the M9 and went to the 10, I'd love to hear your perspective.
Thanks!
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FYI: I was on the M8. My screen cracked a few months ago so I bought another M8, I looked at the M9 first but from everything I was reading it had too many issues. Had a few issues getting the M8 activated with Sprint so I just gave up and sold the new M8 & bought the 10. Since I've been with Sprint for more than 20+ years they gave it to me for $200 (They gave me the M8 for $100 a couple years ago). But anyway, I love the 10. No complaints here, just stay away from the M9. I can recommend the M8 also, I LOVE that phone Even though my screen was cracked I had decided to just keep using it after my activation issues with the New M8 I had just bought. I would have too except it starting have battery issues, I was only getting about 2 hours of usage, it would only last for 14 hours just sitting on the table with me not even touching it. It always just cuts off right at 50% battery power. If I'm using it it would shut down at 50%. BUT if I let it just sit there as it reached that 50% threshold it would NOT shut down! It would actually stay on until I actually turned the screen on THEN it would shut down. I would actually let it sit there for hours after I knew it has passed the 50% mark just to test it. I think the lowest I caught it was at 5%, but about 15 seconds after I turn the screen on it shuts down. If I could've replaced the battery I would've definitely kept using it. So in summation If you can find a cheap M8 I would stick with that & ViperOneM8, if not go with the 10. Just don't get the M9, it's NOT worth the upgrade.

I have the 10 and feel it's a very nice upgrade over the M7 and 8 for sure. Never had the 9 so can't give an opinion there. I dislike the skins many manufacturers put over Android. One way I deal with it is to install the Google now launcher. Almost makes me feel like I'm using a nexus device. And I have owned every nexus device made so I feel I can make that judgement. Of course, it's up to you to make the final decision.

It's funny. I've had all of them, and I rank them as 10, M7, M9, M8. For some reason, the M8 felt weird to me? I just couldn't get used to it. But like someone mentioned before, the M8 is not slated to get Android 6.

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Yes, it's worth upgrading.
I have HTC since the Desire. Sold the M9 and stuck with M8. Water damaged, bought 2nd M8... Love it to death. What a phone for its time. Still sits on ky desk. I have to salute the legend when I wake up.
10 goes back from M8 in some ways but improves in most ways. Battery life is good enough, too, altho not spectacular. You'll enjoy it.
Camera etc could be a lot better but even then, it is noticeably better than the previous two. Screen certainly is.
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Lol, the title! What do you expect from xda? Oh and M8 for the win.

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THAT was flaming? Wow. It was meant to be good natured on my end. My apologies.
Anyway, like I said, the op might need to check if the M8 will get Android N, if that's important to them because I think I saw on HTC's website that it's not currently slated to.

OK guys, I think you've convinced me just to bite the bullet, keep the 10, and root it. Thanks so much for your help!

MadDogMaddux said:
OK guys, I think you've convinced me just to bite the bullet, keep the 10, and root it. Thanks so much for your help!
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Good to hear! Let Viper10 bite that sumbit*h & have a great time. :victory:

MadDogMaddux said:
OK guys, I think you've convinced me just to bite the bullet, keep the 10, and root it. Thanks so much for your help!
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Potentially buying OP 3; couple questions

Hello.
I'm thinking of buying a used OnePlus 3 for 338 Euro (my budget is around that price) and therefore I'd like to ask some questions.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
That would be all for now.
Thanks in advance.

Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm thinking of buying a used OnePlus 3 for 338 Euro (my budget is around that price) and therefore I'd like to ask some questions.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
That would be all for now.
Thanks in advance.
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I will try to answer as many of your questions as possible.
2: Bootloader unlock process is a breeze if you read the FAQ in our Guides section. I did not run into any problems.
3: ROM support has been great so far in my opinion. More and more options are popping up each day. I believe OnePlus has also provided from developers on here a free device for them to develop on.
4: I bought my OP3 in October as an upgrade to my Nexus 5. I was furious when they basically released the same phone with a bigger battery in the OP3T though. The reason I didn't jump on the OP3 immediately when it released was because I wanted a bigger battery and then a month after I received my OP3, the OP3T comes out.
I also don't like how camera is only optimized on stock based roms right now because OnePlus has not released camera sources. Also don't like how a new they release a new firmware with each update that breaks things on certain roms. I guess I was spoiled on how easy it was to switch roms on my old Nexus 5.
5: I haven't bought a used phone before but I would suggest making sure the IMEI is not blacked out somehow? Check the screen THOROUGHLY. The screen scratches really easily on this phone. I noticed micro scratches on my screen only after a few weeks of use.

Great rom and kernel support.
I also had to choose between op3 and op3t and i took the normal one. Its already blazing fast, so i safed the money for snapdragon update. No need.
And i make it easily through the day with the battery, so also no need.
So i am very happy with it and will also use it for at least 4 years.

2. Just go over here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3398733
3. Support is plenty for the OP3, especially over here at XDA.
4. Imho this is the best phone I ever had, and I had a few! Pure Performance, no input lags, no microstutters! And with 6GB RAM you don't have to worry about bottlenecks.
I can warmly recommend this one! And with AKT profiles you don't have to worry about battery life! ?
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3-If it were me, I'll hold off for OP4 or something...since super size screen like the G6 or devices that have nougat feature hardware are coming to the market. Also, since op3 is outta production, with no new user of op3, I would expect ROMs or stuff in general to be more optimize for op3t.
4-I don't like the mono speaker, camera bump and no suitable temper glass now. Been using without protection for a year now and the only micro scrape came from S pen.
5-Aside from imei check, the other definite proof is dash charge. Get the official dash charger and charge on the spot. If there's a dash charge comment at the bottom, can charge 1% in +-30s, you got the real deal. If there's a return period, immediately root the phone and flash with some ROMs here to see if stuff working, no motherboard change and ect. OP warranty covers rooting.

Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm thinking of buying a used OnePlus 3 for 338 Euro (my budget is around that price) and therefore I'd like to ask some questions.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
That would be all for now.
Thanks in advance.
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1. The oneplus 3 is an awesome deal. If you can find it at 400 or under, I think it is worth it. I firmly believe this device will have a long life because of the hardware,oneplus, and the xda community. If you plan on keeping the phone for several years, purchasing some sort of warranty from oneplus might not be a bad idea. Just in case accidental drop water spill or something like that.
2. Bootloaderunlock is stupid easy. Allow bootloader unlocking, then fastboot oem unlock. Done. No special codes, none of that bull that Samsung and LG are putting out.
3. Kind of talked about this in number one, but we have top three dev communities for sure. We'll be getting tons of support for the years to come. I think 4 years is pushing it for any device, I could see 3 given the power of the SD 820, 6gigs of ram, and our dev community.
4. I love my oneplus 3. It's just consistent performer. I know if I put it on the charger for 30 minutes or so on the way to work/school I will have enough power to make it through the day without any of the freezes, hickups, or glitches that plague Samsung and LG. I've been running the official ressurection remix for the past couple days and performance has been beyond fantastic. Even on OOS and the Open Betas, it outclassed all the other android phones I have owned or looked at in shops.
5. It's not like the Samsung or other carrier branded phones where one version is bootloader unlockable and others are not. (Like Samsung with the T-mobile variants and Verizon/ATT variants). Identical to how the Nexus 6p was. A1 and A2, one standard and one international model. I haven't heard any mass reports of the phone dieing at 40 percent like what was happening to the 6p and 5x and have heard nothing like the bootloops caused by LG.
General tip, unless you want to read a ton of people complaining, stay off the OnePlus forums. No harm to them, but there's a lot of people that are just looking for anything to whine and complain about.

MrWilsonxD said:
1. The oneplus 3 is an awesome deal. If you can find it at 400 or under, I think it is worth it. I firmly believe this device will have a long life because of the hardware,oneplus, and the xda community. If you plan on keeping the phone for several years, purchasing some sort of warranty from oneplus might not be a bad idea. Just in case accidental drop water spill or something like that.
2. Bootloaderunlock is stupid easy. Allow bootloader unlocking, then fastboot oem unlock. Done. No special codes, none of that bull that Samsung and LG are putting out.
3. Kind of talked about this in number one, but we have top three dev communities for sure. We'll be getting tons of support for the years to come. I think 4 years is pushing it for any device, I could see 3 given the power of the SD 820, 6gigs of ram, and our dev community.
4. I love my oneplus 3. It's just consistent performer. I know if I put it on the charger for 30 minutes or so on the way to work/school I will have enough power to make it through the day without any of the freezes, hickups, or glitches that plague Samsung and LG. I've been running the official ressurection remix for the past couple days and performance has been beyond fantastic. Even on OOS and the Open Betas, it outclassed all the other android phones I have owned or looked at in shops.
5. It's not like the Samsung or other carrier branded phones where one version is bootloader unlockable and others are not. (Like Samsung with the T-mobile variants and Verizon/ATT variants). Identical to how the Nexus 6p was. A1 and A2, one standard and one international model. I haven't heard any mass reports of the phone dieing at 40 percent like what was happening to the 6p and 5x and have heard nothing like the bootloops caused by LG.
General tip, unless you want to read a ton of people complaining, stay off the OnePlus forums. No harm to them, but there's a lot of people that are just looking for anything to whine and complain about.
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Thank you very much for your response, it's extremely encouraging. I just got the response from the seller that the phone was bought in July 2016, was in a protective case from day one, and apparently has no damage at all. Am I still encouraged to go for it? I really, really like this phone and I definitely wouldn't want to miss the chance if it's the right one. Any tips on how could I additionally verify the phone's reliability when meeting with the seller, both software and hardware-wise?

Fobos531 said:
Thank you very much for your response, it's extremely encouraging. I just got the response from the seller that the phone was bought in July 2016, was in a protective case from day one, and apparently has no damage at all. Am I still encouraged to go for it? I really, really like this phone and I definitely wouldn't want to miss the chance if it's the right one. Any tips on how could I additionally verify the phone's reliability when meeting with the seller, both software and hardware-wise?
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Hmm, ask him to let it get low on charge and see if dash charge should get 3A or more in an app like ampere if the battery is under 40%.. e. Launch the camera, take some pictures record a video, if you have usb otg try using that.. But that's just basic stuff for any phone. Check the screen at angles for cracks
If you like it, get it! ?

Some really good questions, here are my thoughts on them:
Fobos531 said:
Hello.
1. Is this a good deal or am I better off waiting for OnePlus 3T to go on sale on the official site?
I would say (if you're not super excited to purchase soon) - wait for it. Not just for the sale though, they might even bring the midnight black in 64GB later and cut prices on it along with the regular models. OP is like that - completely going against their previous statements
2. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
Its a breeze, there is not one but two communities there to help you with it anyway.
3. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is OnePlus 3 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from its release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
I had a OPO before I switched to OP3 - each of the device is a winner. And as you can see, it has been more than 8 months since OP3 release and it is still one of the most popular devices on XDA. There are many ROM/Kernel options, however, due to the camera blobs hassle, many people are staying on OOS based ROMs.
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone? Or any general culprits specific to the OnePlus 3?
I am really happy with my phone and will definitely recommend it to anyone. It is a very pretty phone no matter what color you opt for.
Things I don't like:
1. Unavailability of better-looking screen protectors - there are ones which dont cover the edges, and then there are ones which cover the whole screen and the top and bottom bezels, but I have heard they don't have a very nice feel.
2. On OP3, Battery life is average - on mobile data you get 3Hrs of SoT with average use I think it would be a bit better on the 3T.
3. Camera bump
5. If I decide to buy this specific OnePlus 3, is there sort of a "checklist" (things that I should check) I should go through to verify that it's all good? Anything I should ask/tell the seller? Any other tips when buying this phone? I really don't want to get screwed, so I'd like some insight from you guys.
I would recommend getting a new one, used tech is almost always a risky decision. However if you do go for a used one, probably checking the camera, dual-SIM functionality, 4G reception on your network, fingerprint sensor and capacitive touch buttons are the first things to check.
Also look for any dead pixels, burn-in or digitizer issues etc. Basically do everything you will be using when you get the phone.
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LG G6 or HTC 10

Can't decide between the two.
Love HTC for Viper Rom and rooting
G6 seems like a great phone but no root for the dual sim version.
Both around £320

DJ. I'm in the same position so can def help you. I bought the G6 over the HTC simply because the G6 looked good and I thought the thing would eventually get unlocked and we'd have all kinds of custom rooms, etc but nothing just lots of crickets. The phone looks good but without root and roms it gets boring very fast.
I'm in the process of getting the HTC plus cash for the G6 . The HTC has great support and endless roms, trust me go for the HTC.
Let us know what you do !!
Cheers, LL
Also the screen size may be an issue, the HTC screen is bit small but looks mind-blowing.

Sorry but why get the HTC 10? The u11 will be getting viper. Getting the 10 makes no sense.
Besides cost [emoji6]
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The 10 is just much better than the U11 for some of us. Audio jack with amazing sound, full metal body, and manageable smaller size.
And no need to squeeze it

dladz said:
Getting the 10 makes no sense.
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Your post makes no sense :angel:
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Maik268 said:
Your post makes no sense :angel:
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You have no sense
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pomponazzo said:
The 10 is just much better than the U11 for some of us. Audio jack with amazing sound, full metal body, and manageable smaller size.
And no need to squeeze it
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So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
Nothing wrong with the HTC 10 it's a great phone, i'm selling mine shortly myself though, 1+5

dladz said:
So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
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I do not agree. The 10 is a much superior device than the M8 and M9, or HTC Hero :silly:
The U11 doesn't bring anything worth ditching the 10 in my opinion, it's even a downgrade in some aspects. But to each his own, as you say...

DJGREEN1980 said:
Can't decide between the two.
Love HTC for Viper Rom and rooting
G6 seems like a great phone but no root for the dual sim version.
Both around £320
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Phone size is a big factor for some people, camera performance too. But if customization is all you want then you already know the answer.

pomponazzo said:
I do not agree. The 10 is a much superior device than the M8 and M9, or HTC Hero :silly:
The U11 doesn't bring anything worth ditching the 10 in my opinion, it's even a downgrade in some aspects. But to each his own, as you say...
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Lol no not if you already own a 10 no, that wouldn't imho be worth the leap, however the OP hasn't got a 10 has he?
Not sure if your first sentence is legit or not so i'll answer it anyway then put a silly face on just incase it wasn't.
I'm not saying that the 10 is in anyway the same or on par with the 8 9 or the awesome hero
But why say the 10 is better than the 11 for some of us? When given the choice it clearly is not, not in anyway, besides size perhaps ? Nothing else. :silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:

dladz said:
Lol no not if you already own a 10 no, that wouldn't imho be worth the leap, however the OP hasn't got a 10 has he?
Not sure if your first sentence is legit or not so i'll answer it anyway then put a silly face on just incase it wasn't.
I'm not saying that the 10 is in anyway the same or on par with the 8 9 or the awesome hero
But why say the 10 is better than the 11 for some of us? When given the choice it clearly is not, not in anyway, besides size perhaps ? Nothing else. :silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
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Actually the real question is why would you suggest a phone that wasn't even under consideration by the OP? We don't know why those are the only phones that are to be chosen between, and to suggest something that is almost double the price mentioned, that it "makes no sense" to not go with the 11, makes, well, no sense really.

Tarima said:
Actually the real question is why would you suggest a phone that wasn't even under consideration by the OP? We don't know why those are the only phones that are to be chosen between, and to suggest something that is almost double the price mentioned, that it "makes no sense" to not go with the 11, makes, well, no sense really.
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It makes sense to me. Buying a last gen phone does not. LG G6 perhaps but development will be lacklustre, I suggested it because it DOES make sense and it is what I would do, either that or the one plus five which I've just bought about two hours ago.
Do what you will op you have my two cents.
Now I must be gone because the mediocrity of this thread and it's responses hath caused me to obtain Forrest Whittaker eye and I fear it may be permanent should I remain.. eth.
Good luck to you on your last gen quest, I hope it is fruitful....eth [emoji106]
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I would get the One Plus 5 if I were in your position. Love the 10 won't get rid of it until it breaks or I get bored of it.

lamplighter13 said:
DJ. I'm in the same position so can def help you. I bought the G6 over the HTC simply because the G6 looked good and I thought the thing would eventually get unlocked and we'd have all kinds of custom rooms, etc but nothing just lots of crickets. The phone looks good but without root and roms it gets boring very fast.
I'm in the process of getting the HTC plus cash for the G6 . The HTC has great support and endless roms, trust me go for the HTC.
Let us know what you do !!
Cheers, LL
Also the screen size may be an issue, the HTC screen is bit small but looks mind-blowing.
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I got my HTC 10 2months ago. LG G6 was the other phone I was considering. Eventually I picked the HTC, because I wanted a compact device with capacitive buttons and fingerprint scanner on the front. So it's mainly due to the usability concerns. Also the $200 price gap between the HTC and LG (DS version with DAC which I was considering) mattered.
I don't think that the speed difference would be noticeable in the daily use. The HTC's camera is on pair. LG has double back lens, but HTC has rear OIS which is nice.
I am happy with my choose. The only thing that is making me wonder is that it's getting a little to hot a little too fast (can get to 37* C during nornal use, just by browsing the web with Opera). My old Samsung Note 3 wasn't getting as hot. Other than that I have no complains.

Luminance said:
I am happy with my choose. The only thing that is making me wonder is that it's getting a little to hot a little too fast (can get to 37* C during nornal use, just by browsing the web with Opera). My old Samsung Note 3 wasn't getting as hot. Other than that I have no complains.
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Just the materials used mate, should still be within it's limits.

dladz said:
You have no sense
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So long as as money isnt' a problem there is only one logical choice, otherwise why not just get an M9? Or an M8?
The increment in speed alone is reason enough to get it, plus the new feature set if thats your thing, form factor is subjective so each to their own, but on raw specs and what it can give there is only one clear winner.
Nothing wrong with the HTC 10 it's a great phone, i'm selling mine shortly myself though, 1+5
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Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.

comstockload said:
Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.
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Two phone numbers on the same phone is pretty cool.

I have a HTC-10 which I purchased second hand for a family member, it has been rooted and I installed LineageOS on it, apart from that I haven't used it all that much but compared to my Nexus 6P my initial thoughts are
Pros:
HTC-10 feels a little faster
Memory card slot
Cons:
Too small (personal preference I guess but I welcome the extra screen real-estate)
Not all stock features are supported in custom ROMs (for example slow motion video)
the speakers aren't as loud as the 6P,
The home button seems to have a slight delay between pressing and registering
The fingerprint sensor is in a terrible spot
I was looking at a LG G6 but the lack of community support means it's not an option for me.
I couldn't recommend either of them really... I'd find it hard pressed to recommend any phone at the moment (I am particular)

comstockload said:
Not a fan of the all glass body on the U11, and I expect the constant polling of the side sensors will affect battery drain. Also, If the sensors get out of whack they could be triggered by simply putting the phone in your pocket i.e. too sensitive. The HTC 10 is a well made phone. Build quality is excellent. Keeping my 10 as a backup phone, and getting a US unlocked, dual sim, 1+5.
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Have the 1+5 in my hand, got it today, don't know what all the bad reviews are about, it's a beast.
Selling my HTC 10 now Cheap I want rid of it.

U11 feels too plastic for me compared to the 10, my 10 on Leedroid is very fast, never had an issue, great sound, good camera etc. Going to look at LG V30 when it comes out, 10 will take some beating. I've dropped it 4 times and still looks awesome

I wouldn't buy the u11.
It's too big for me. and that is a big factor. Sure, I'd get used to it, but I want to use the device with 1 hand. The 10 I can still do this, the u11, I wouldn't. Also, a lot of wasted space that I hate. Samsung is winning in that perspective.
I don't like the plastic nor the missing headphone jack, either. I want these things, like the IR blaster, I miss that.
If I was to break my htc 10 tmw, and I do have enough $$ to get the u11 outright, I'd still buy a used 10 off swappa.
Also.. Verizon.. Doesn't have full support, is my understanding, which for that $$, I want.. and need.
my worthless .2 cents, lol

Oneplus 5T releasing on 16th November. Why?

Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.

The phone will still be the same. I got mine by the end of july and i dont regret it at all

Because that's the way it goes. Same as people who open an new thread for similar questions that's already been answered.

My question is: "Why not?"

I'm gonna be pissed if it's not waterproof. Then it's really just large screen and slightly better front cam based on the rumors.
hopefully they kept capacitive keys, too, otherwise there's even less incentive to upgrade.

I agree
...with OP, this is ridiculous.
It was one thing for OnePlus to come out with the 3T, to incorporate the off-cycle introduction of the Snapdragon 821. But they now expect to support 2 flagship phones a year, every single year? They expect customer loyalty, when they just chose to obsolete us every six months? Insanity.
If your marketing tactics have a loyal, repeat customer such as myself wondering ”why the hell did I even buy this thing?" after only 5 months, you've failed.

miten_sheth said:
Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.
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Why not? I have this phone from June and i'm happy to have a new variant borderless & APN optimized. It's the same CPU/RAM, so performances will be the same, it's not a mandatory to change mate !

Ofcourse its not mandatory to change but when I buy a new phone, I dont expect the company to release new *flagship* killer phones every 6 months. I mean that's insane.
I mean, I'm sad because if you end up releasing new phones every 6 months with some changes to the previous models, I would always keep waiting as a consumer to buy a new phone from the company because I want the latest model.
Imho, they are just losing customers releasing new phones this quick.

I have a brilliant idea: Only buy the T revision phones, instead of being impatient. That will also teach OnePlus a lesson when their sales plummet.

If the jelly screen bug from oneplus 5 is gone i will get an 5T to replace my Mi6.
Really miss the 3.5 headphone jack.

GloomySVT said:
I have a brilliant idea: Only buy the T revision phones, instead of being impatient. That will also teach OnePlus a lesson when their sales plummet.
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I like this idea!

Business is business unfortunately.
I genuinely don't mind flogging my OP5 in favor of putting up an extra £100 and buying the 5T.
New phone that incorporates some features I want. Honestly don't see what the issue is.
Also I don't see an issue with a company trying to improve it's product.

miten_sheth said:
Is been only 3 months since I got my Op5 and there is already a new phone. Why OP why?
Saw the official post on instagram.
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You just got featured in @funnyxdaposts (on Telegram): https://t.me/funnyxdaposts
And thank you for asking the question (and starting a little discussion as well)
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Hi there,
You just got featured in @funnyxdaposts (on Telegram): https://t.me/funnyxdaposts
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Look Ma! I got famous! ????

It should be atleast 50$ costlier than 5

Other smartphone manufacturers do this as well. It actually maximises sales.
The 5T isn't marketed to 5 owners. They're going after 3/3T owners looking to upgrade.

They should have added a microSD card slot, how much more can it be? The phone is big and already has room for it.

dricacho said:
They should have added a microSD card slot, how much more can it be? The phone is big and already has room for it.
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These days, people are after big screens, headphone jacks and large batteries. I think storage options seem to be okay with the 128gb in there. 256 would have been welcomed I suppose.

I would be happy to get updated phone even every 6 months or so, that would perfect.

Just came across the unboxing video link..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTBqHpPWm5E

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