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Hi there,
I just got my T-Mobile SGS2. When I look straight at the phone screen, I see whites that are yellowish, as if the color temperature is bumped up by +2000-3000K. Tilting the phone 5-10 degrees to the left or right shows proper, much colder whites, as one would expect. The same nice whites can be seen if I tilt 20-30 degrees up/down.
Perhaps I would not have noticed this problem had I not played the with international version of SGS2 - the whites on that phone are just stunning anyway you look at it. I went back to the T-Mobile store and all the SGS2 phones there the same "issue". The guy in the store thinks that is how the colors should be...
Am I going crazy here? Is it normal to see this yellow cast with a straight viewing angle? Can someone confirm that their screen shows fine whites at any viewing angle? I'm considering sending the phone back for replacement, but it'd be futile if this slight yellow cast is indeed normal...
Mine is like that too. I think its just a quality of the amoled screen, cause I've seen it on other amoled phones too. You get used to it.
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I've checked out/toyed around with close to half a dozen handsets since they came out a couple weeks back and I have yet to see one that has a yellow tint. Every one I've seen has had a blue hue/tint, some approaching a grey cast while a couple others almost like a light mint green. Unfortunately AMOLED screens have the hardest time reproducing white as there apparently is no such thing as a true white LED.
Sounds like the one you got did indeed come a lot warmer than most which tend to me on the cooler side. I wish they would have a factory setting much like most flat panel TVs have for setting/adjusting color temperature to your liking. The blue tint really bugs me but I guess over time you just get used to it. Same would go with yellow too, just have to get used to it. I suppose you could keep exchanging phones as some lucky few out there seem to have gotten handsets with a good color temperature where whites actually look white, but who knows how many times you'd have to try that. I'd bet most places wouldn't be too willing to do that for a customer though.
I'm looking at a yellowish tinted XDA now. Totally dark in my room, auto backlight could be the issue...
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I had the same problem on my old N7 and went through 2 of those as well...
I've got some pretty bad backlight bleeding at the top/center of the screen. Literally looks like a dark grey to black gradient across the status bar. Other than that the screen looks pretty good. I say pretty good because I still think Asus could take a tip from Samsung in the display dept. But better color reproduction and contrast than the old N7 and love the 19x12 res. I'm gonna really enjoy reading on this thing once i get a good one. I just can't handle backlight bleed; it's a pet peeve of mine. It's going back to Best Buy tomorrow and I hope they have one more in stock for me. To anyone buying one, I would open it in store and check it out before leaving. My Best Buy is 30min and a load of traffic away.
Anyone else having this problem?
No backlight bleeding like my old nexus had. I haven't noticed any problems with mine , they really upped the quality with that $30 increase from last year
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Chronzy said:
I had the same problem on my old N7 and went through 2 of those as well...
I've got some pretty bad backlight bleeding at the top/center of the screen. Literally looks like a dark grey to black gradient across the status bar. Other than that the screen looks pretty good. I say pretty good because I still think Asus could take a tip from Samsung in the display dept. But better color reproduction and contrast than the old N7 and love the 19x12 res. I'm gonna really enjoy reading on this thing once i get a good one. I just can't handle backlight bleed; it's a pet peeve of mine. It's going back to Best Buy tomorrow and I hope they have one more in stock for me. To anyone buying one, I would open it in store and check it out before leaving. My Best Buy is 30min and a load of traffic away.
Anyone else having this problem?
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You're one of the fortunate victims of first-batch-problems...
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You're one of the fortunate victims of first-batch-problems...
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I hope for your sake it's a problem limited to the first batch. Looks like it's hit-and-miss like the old nexus because the new one I just got home with looks pretty good.
Good luck to everyone else (check it at the store!)...
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I hope for your sake it's a problem limited to the first batch. Looks like it's hit-and-miss like the old nexus because the new one I just got home with looks pretty good.
Good luck to everyone else (check it at the store!)...
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i think google's letting asus too much on the free rein. there's been better quality control on the previous nexuses, apart from asus. do try to chck out how sammy made the n10. that's what we can compare with n7 (both) and cry and curse asus.
seeing all that, I'm waiting for the next batch to come out, since I don't have enough reaources to replace a device once bougjt, so I just won't be taking any chances.
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My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.
there is backlight bleed top center
usmaak said:
My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.
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I have a 16gb second gen nexus 7 gotten from staples..and i see noticable back light bleed towards the top center just like the user here is reporting....im hoping in a few weeks they correct this...im waiting for the 32 gig version anyway...this will go back to staples..the screen though is vastly improved except for that bleed i've noticed....and depending on how you hold display you see weird blue colors and like a sunset red....occassionally
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I have a 16gb second gen nexus 7 gotten from staples..and i see noticable back light bleed towards the top center just like the user here is reporting....im hoping in a few weeks they correct this...im waiting for the 32 gig version anyway...this will go back to staples..the screen though is vastly improved except for that bleed i've noticed....and depending on how you hold display you see weird blue colors and like a sunset red....occassionally
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Agree. I have my 32GB that's going back for different reasons. I'll just wait it out and watch everyone here, to see when these issues are minimized. Screen's amazing. Way better than anything else I've ever seen.
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My original N7 has backlight bleeding along the left side, most noticeable on the bottom. Wife's has similar backlight bleed. Seems like some of this has nothing to do with batches. I got my original N7 in December, long past the first batches.
Just seems like they have some quality issues. Like the three org N7s that I went through before hitting on one that didn't have screen lift. I did finally get one, but it took some effort and returns on my part.
As for my newly purchased second generation N7, there are a few problems with it. Aside from very minor light bleed that is only visible in a black room, light bleed is not one of the issues.
I do hope that the second generation problems are worked out in subsequent batches, because the screen itself is a beautiful thing.
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as I said, google's probably giving asus free rein too much, and asus is putting all that axe on our necks. They should be considerate about quality, because quality only is what matters. see all the good specs going down the drainage.
Mine only has it at the top like you, but its only noticeable during really dark scenes in a poorly lit area. Most IPS display will show some sort of light bleed. Speaking from experience, if its not one thing, then its another. Everything else is excellent. No dead pixels, popping sounds from the speaker, etc, etc. I swapped my N4 3 times before I got a unit that I thought was pretty good. And even then, its still not perfect since it too has some light bleed. If it really bothers you, then prepare yourself for what could possibly be a goose chase. :good:
Hi all,
Had my Pixel for a few days now and noticed what I thought was a new gradient in the background of posts in the XDA labs app, I checked the screen using one of the grey test colours and found that I'm getting a dark cloud over the bottom right hand side of my screen. I tried taking a photo with my old phone (Moto X Pure) but the camera isn't good enough at low light for it to show up, I'll try and get a photo with my DSLR when I'm back from work later today. In the mean time some quick googling has shown it's very similar to the "Dirty Screen Effect" described here: http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/picture-quality/gray-uniformity-dirty-screen-effect-dse
Had anyone else noticed this? Do you think Google would RMA it? I've not really been bothered by the blue shift on my device so I'm slightly concerned that I might end up with a worse replacement if I do send it back
Cheers
Michael
It's a tough call, you have to ask yourself if you can live with it or not. Does it show up a lot during normal usage? Or is it just with the XDA labs app and similar applications in a low light setting with your brightness turned to like 0-10%? Or if you can see it at all times regardless of brightness settings you can contact Google tell them of the screen issue and get a RMA. Check out the replacement and compare the blue shift to your current and see if it also has the same issue as your current device. If it's better in both regards send it back, if the blue shift is a bit worse on the one and you can tolerate it and it doesn't have the bad back light uniformity you could keep it. That's what I would do personally, best of luck!
Yes, I have a similar issue. My first device had severe blue tint at any angle and Google would not replace so I returned and and reordered. The second device had only slight blue tint and is not an issue but of course has the uneven grays. The right side of the screen is much darker and there is also a dark spot around the sim tray area on the left side. I sent Google pictures and they are sending a replacement. It's only noticable in low light, looks fine at higher brightness though.
Ah I didn't realize they sent you the replacement first. That makes it a much easier decision. I'll still try and add a photo of it in the OP later today but RMA seems like the best choice. It's noticeable at lower backlight brightness and since it's winter here in the UK now the auto-brightness often drops it down to a level where it is noticeable just in normal daily use.
I get a VERY slight hint of that on a dark gray background at 5-7% brightness in a totally dark room but other than that very specific condition it's uniform otherwise.
The photo as promised unedited straight out of the camera (USB C OTG is neat). It's not quite this bad in person, if you imagine the light grey is the same shade as the dark grey in this image and the dark grey as being almost black then you get the idea, but it does show the difference between the two and it is clearly visible with the naked eye in a dark room.
The grey image I'm using is here: https://i1.wp.com/ausdroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/screenshot_20171022-153201.png?ssl=1
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The photo as promised unedited straight out of the camera (USB C OTG is neat). It's not quite this bad in person, if you imagine the light grey is the same shade as the dark grey in this image and the dark grey as being almost black then you get the idea, but it does show the difference between the two and it is clearly visible with the naked eye in a dark room.
The grey image I'm using is here: https://i1.wp.com/ausdroid.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/screenshot_20171022-153201.png?ssl=1
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Woah! Holy crap that's pretty bad. I would RMA that bad boy right away.
I'm either going to buy the Pixel 2 or the Pixel 2 XL. Is the display on the XL really that bad? Should I stick with the Pixel 2, or is the issues with the XL over hyped. Those that have this phone, give me all the reasons to , or not buy this phone.
Display is just fine, and if you end up having problems Google has been RMAing them. I had burn in on my last one and no questions asked when I sent the picture of it they had one sent. Once they added the different color modes ( I Still use natural as Saturated looks horrible IMO) I think it fixed a lot of peoples "problems" with it. Yea there is blue shift but you only really notice it on a white screen when you turn the phone. Rarely am I using it on everyday use and be like "damn I really hate this blue" Go get it, try it for the 14 days or whatever the return period is and if you dont like the screen go ahead and return it for the little one. I dont think you can go wrong with either though.
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Display is just fine, and if you end up having problems Google has been RMAing them. I had burn in on my last one and no questions asked when I sent the picture of it they had one sent. Once they added the different color modes ( I Still use natural as Saturated looks horrible IMO) I think it fixed a lot of peoples "problems" with it. Yea there is blue shift but you only really notice it on a white screen when you turn the phone. Rarely am I using it on everyday use and be like "damn I really hate this blue" Go get it, try it for the 14 days or whatever the return period is and if you dont like the screen go ahead and return it for the little one. I dont think you can go wrong with either though.
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I can live with blue tint. I don't look at my phone from odd angles, so I could care less. I'm more concerned with the burn in, and image retention. I'm coming from a OG Pixel, and I don't have any issues with it at all.
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I can live with blue tint. I don't look at my phone from odd angles, so I could care less. I'm more concerned with the burn in, and image retention. I'm coming from a OG Pixel, and I don't have any issues with it at all.
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Yea I mean is it the best display out? No. I grab my wife's iPhone X and I really see how inferior it is to that. But is it a bad display? No. I think it's just luck of the draw on if you get one that is gonna burn in or not. The one I had did it in 4 days. This one I've had for 2 weeks and nothing yet. But like I said. Google seemed really good about returning it when I did say that it had it and just had to take pictures to prove it. Next email was the link to put the "purchase" on new one until they received old one back. If the smaller pixel didn't have the bezels I would have went with that because after using an s8 just for the couple months from when I had my OG pixel to this one I kinda grew on the size with a big screen. Like I said, go pick one up and just try it out. You will love it either way
jmartin72 said:
I can live with blue tint. I don't look at my phone from odd angles, so I could care less. I'm more concerned with the burn in, and image retention. I'm coming from a OG Pixel, and I don't have any issues with it at all.
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Both the Pixel 2 and the 2 XL have burn in although the 2 XL is worse. You'll probably notice your Pixel 1 has it to if you look closely enough at grey backgrounds full screen.
The Pixel XL 2 screen in my book is a lot nicer than the 2 even with the burn in. It's got much nicer whites (a little bluer) than the slightly red Shamsung one in the pixel 2 and you hardly notice the burn once you realise the phone is just THAT good.
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Both the Pixel 2 and the 2 XL have burn in although the 2 XL is worse. You'll probably notice your Pixel 1 has it to if you look closely enough at grey backgrounds full screen.
The Pixel XL 2 screen in my book is a lot nicer than the 2 even with the burn in. It's got much nicer whites (a little bluer) than the slightly red Shamsung one in the pixel 2 and you hardly notice the burn once you realise the phone is just THAT good.
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My OG Pixel doesn't have any burn in at all.
I think the screen problem would only be an issue if you are OCD. If you try to find faults and stress about it you will end up hating the device. However if you ignore the screen problem and make the most of the device then you will absolutely love it
display is great IMO
blue shift is the only issue i can actually reproduce, and the ridiculous angle at which it occurs means i literally never experience it during normal use
I personally love the screen. For me it's better than original Pixel. But must say that i wasn't very happy until i rooted and tuned it a bit.
Out of box the screen was too dark for my likings. I'm not talking about the brightness level. What i mean is that darks are very aggressive in most cases.
However, i wouldn't go back to the original Pixel.
Black smear is the only thing I've ever noticed that's meh to me but it was there on other OLED displays I've used too. IMO...shiz on the display was overblown.
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Black smear is the only thing I've ever noticed that's meh to me but it was there on other OLED displays I've used too. IMO...shiz on the display was overblown.
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Smearing is way worse on the 2XL I have than I had on any of the phones in my sig. Love OLEDs for a long time, but the smearing is something that I notice that I'm hoping an update will address.
Other than that, the display has been fine for me. Blue tint not an issue and no burn in for me.
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Smearing is way worse on the 2XL I have than I had on any of the phones in my sig. Love OLEDs for a long time, but the smearing is something that I notice that I'm hoping an update will address.
Other than that, the display has been fine for me. Blue tint not an issue and no burn in for me.
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Google need to tweak the gamma to make it better
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jmartin72 said:
I'm either going to buy the Pixel 2 or the Pixel 2 XL. Is the display on the XL really that bad? Should I stick with the Pixel 2, or is the issues with the XL over hyped. Those that have this phone, give me all the reasons to , or not buy this phone.
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The screen is good. The issues are over hyped. And just so you know I am OCD with my screens and hate any sort of uneven tints etc. It took me 4 oneplus 5t to get one with a reasonably uniform screen. My pixel has a more uniform screen than all 4 of them. I will break down the issues and give. my experience. But keep in mind each unit may differ but if you get one that's as Intended this is what you should experience too
1. Blue tint. This is no issue. You might notice it if you tilt the screen at angles...but during every day use you never notice it, after a few days you forget about it all together
2. graininess. I think they all have this to some degree. But I can only see a tiny bit of grain if I put the phone in low brightness and stare at it unnaturally close to my face. So again never an issue in every day use
3. Black smear/black crush. Yes this is a problem. But you will only notice it at very low brightness, late at night.
This is actually a software issue. So it's nice to know it can be potentially fixed through an update
4. Touch problems. I noticed having to tap things a couple times when I first had it. But since the last update I haven't noticed any touch sensitivity issues at all
I don't think it's even a case of ignore the screen problems and enjoy the phone...the screen is pleasant and the problems simply are not there's unless you get a dud of course
Hope this helps
Screen is just fine. Gorgeous really.
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Black smear is the only thing I've ever noticed that's meh to me but it was there on other OLED displays I've used too. IMO...shiz on the display was overblown.
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This.
The display is not good...unless you get a good one. QC is extremely inconsistent.
Other than the blue tint (which I don't really care about) mine is great. No complaints and thats coming from an S8 plus and Note FE which both have great screens
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
My black XL 2 were terrible with blue tint but the Panda screens have been ok
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Black smear is the only thing I've ever noticed that's meh to me but it was there on other OLED displays I've used too. IMO...shiz on the display was overblown.
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I agree on the black smear point. That's really the only real issue I have with the phone but it only happens in low light situations. I was able to work around it by using lux, cflumen, and an app called screen balance. I agree that the whole blue shift thing was blown out of proportion because when are you not looking directly at your phone: perpendicular to your face lol. On the other hand I do understand why people are upset. Lots of money spent therefore expecting perfection.
I have no issues with my display. There's been zero burn in, and I never notice the blue shift. It's definitely there, but it's only at extreme angles and 99.9 percent of the time I'm looking at my screen head on. Now that the saturated color space has been added the screen looks just as good as my boyfriend's note 8.
I've also had issues with black smear, but it's not as much of a problem for me as the black crush. Watching darker videos on low to mid brightness can make it difficult to see the details in a scene.
I got my phone a week ago and haven't noticed any problems with my screen. The blue tint I never noticed because I don't look at it from an angle. The burn in I haven't noticed but will try to keep an eye on it
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Hey guys, just bought a used 2XL off eBay. Everything seems as advertised but I had a couple questions. I'm coming from using an LG G7
1) the screen is a bit warm in hue, is this something normal after presumably 1 year of use?
2) does the Cam have the same features as on the 3 or is there a port I should download?
3) I haven't put my SIM into this. Any call issues or people? (I'm on Freedom in Canada and the phone was purchased from a seller in Canada)
4) anything else you might recommend or that I should be aware of coming from another Android phone?
Thanks for any replies!
Cheers
Not an owner yet, but I can say most phones screens can get warm because of the processor/battery at times. I would not worry about that. Also, you can check Kimovil or willmyphonework to see if it'll get full band support for Freedom. The only thing to be weary of from what I hear is the OLED burn in, which is a danger with any oled phone if you are careless
Are you comfortable with rooting your phone? If so you can put a custom kernel on the device and use a KCAL profile to cool the screens colors, that's what I do.
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@Koray_: Wrong definition of "warm". In this case the OP is asking whether the overall color of the screen is reddish (warm) or bluish (cold).
@VCan25:
P2XL screens seem to vary greatly. After 1 year of use however this might be normal. The blue OLEDs fade more quickly than the red or green.
Top Shot is not available for the P2XL. TBH I haven't checked to see if the camera app ports have it, but Top Shot supposedly requires an AI upgrade that the P2XL doesn't have.
No call issues I am aware of.
The blue shift phenomenon widely reported on these devices is overblown. All OLED screens have blue shift to varying degrees. The screen itself on a new device is set with a color palette closer to the real world. This can be changed in the device settings to give the color palette a bit more punch, or you can set it so it looks a lot like a Samsung display. I personally use the natural color palette, the lowest setting. But people's tastes vary which is why Google added the settings in an early update to the firmware.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@Koray_: Wrong definition of "warm". In this case the OP is asking whether the overall color of the screen is reddish (warm) or bluish (cold).
@VCan25:
P2XL screens seem to vary greatly. After 1 year of use however this might be normal. The blue OLEDs fade more quickly than the red or green.
Top Shot is not available for the P2XL. TBH I haven't checked to see if the camera app ports have it, but Top Shot supposedly requires an AI upgrade that the P2XL doesn't have.
No call issues I am aware of.
The blue shift phenomenon widely reported on these devices is overblown. All OLED screens have blue shift to varying degrees. The screen itself on a new device is set with a color palette closer to the real world. This can be changed in the device settings to give the color palette a bit more punch, or you can set it so it looks a lot like a Samsung display. I personally use the natural color palette, the lowest setting. But people's tastes vary which is why Google added the settings in an early update to the firmware.
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Thanks for the detailed response! Been using it on and off for the day and it seems to verify your points. Actually I had tried a Pixel 3 before but call quality was terrible. Dropped calls and receivers couldn't hear me but had no issue today on the 2XL so that was a relief. I found the palette options and I guess it was set to a more saturated level which I didn't like but on natural it seems much better. And I was looking for Top Shot and Super Res Zoom, so I'll check out the ports to see what developers have been able to cook up. Photos have been great so far and I can see why people love the camera. The LG G7 was so saturated it lacked details on zooming in.