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Screen light blee.

Hi guys,
Do you have any light bleed on your screen? I have a few spots on the bottom edge of the screen.
Thank you,
Martin

malutki said:
Hi guys,
Do you have any light bleed on your screen? I have a few spots on the bottom edge of the screen.
Thank you,
Martin
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Yea, That's Samsung for you. I was lucky not to have any on my device. And from the looks of it, it isn't too common on the Note 2014.
The Nexus 10 though. Wow. Everyone had it. It wasn't a question of if you have it or not, it was about how bad. Not to mention the blacks were blue.
I'd exchange it if I were you, no point in getting stuck with that.

Nope, no blee here.

californiarailroader said:
Nope, no blee here.
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I will exchange mine. Hopefully the new one will have no bleeD

Mine just came today and with my normal brightness setting there is only the slightest hint of bleed from one of the four LED spots on the bottom of the screen.
My panel seems perfect so far so it doesn't seem likely I will exchange it over this.
I'm pretty impressed, but I have to say the build quality is not up to par with my IPad and not what I would expect at this price. Samsung has a long way to go to produce really premium products.

30Seconds said:
Mine just came today and with my normal brightness setting there is only the slightest hint of bleed from one of the four LED spots on the bottom of the screen.
My panel seems perfect so far so it doesn't seem likely I will exchange it over this.
I'm pretty impressed, but I have to say the build quality is not up to par with my IPad and not what I would expect at this price. Samsung has a long way to go to produce really premium products.
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I would like to see one iPad without a light bleed. So far a few I saw (including 2 which belong to my wife) had some light bleed as well. What is wrong with build quality of your unit? Mine, except for light bleed, is very good.

I think my tablet has very very slight bleed at the bottom of the screen near both capacitive buttons, I won't return it because it's barely noticeable BUT does this mean the whole screen has an issue and also could it deteriorate over more usage or anything like that.
Apologies if these are idiotic questions but this "screen bleed" is a completely new subject for me lol.
malutki said:
I will exchange mine. Hopefully the new one will have no bleeD
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How was your exchanged tablet?

I think my light bleed is actually getting worse and I am thinking about exchanging it now that there is more stock available.
One of the spots on the bottom is about 1 cm, and while viewing movies it is a nuisance.
Does anyone have a perfect screen?

30Seconds said:
I think my light bleed is actually getting worse and I am thinking about exchanging it now that there is more stock available.
One of the spots on the bottom is about 1 cm, and while viewing movies it is a nuisance.
Does anyone have a perfect screen?
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This was my worry, my screen has slight light bleed at the bottom nothing too noticeable but then again don't all LCD screens have some form of light bleed

Writting from my third Note 10.1 2014. The first one had a huge dust particle under the screen and bad bleeding. The second one had a bearable bleeding but at least 7 bad pixels (3 dead ones right in the middle of the screen and 4 stuck). This Note 10.1 has almost non- existent bleeding and just one little dust particle (invisible if you are not looking for it) but has yellow tint along the bottom edge (over the buttons) and at the bottom left corner, so when you are reading in portrait mode over white background it is impossible not to get distracted as you start one line with black over white and you finish it with black over yellow.
I truly love this device but I am getting tired of all of this. My third replacement is on its way, though I seriously doubt it is going to be a good one.
iiSo say we all!! from my SM- P600

Just noticed the blee today while watching netflix...does it actually get worse? I can live with it now but I would send it in for a replacement if it's gonna deteriorate over time

I'm on my third device and 2 of them have had lightbleed. I can't say for the first one though because the screen was dead on arrival. I think everyone should expect some lightbleed on any LCD screen. If your tablet is perfect in every other aspect other than a little screen bleeding then I wouldn't exchange it. There are too many things that can be messed up other than the screen such as S-pen detection, loose speaker grills, dead pixels, dead screens, faulty bluetooth, and the list goes on...

I have a 32bg black model and my GF has a white one, both bought at BB at about the same time. There is quite a lot of difference between the screens, mine has quite a bit of light bleed on the upper right and all across the bottom - you can see the individual leds - hers does not. However my screen is quite a bit brighter and much more "white," in side by side comparison hers looks a bit yellow. All of the screen settings are exactly the same. Last night we had them both on for 3+ hours of internet and point-and-click gaming, I had 80% power remaining while she had 56%, checking hers I noticed the brightness was at 100 while mine was around 25%. She says it needs to be that high to see the game and it does seem much darker/mudier than mine. Thinking these must have different panels because they look so different. So, light bleed or dim yellow battery eating screen, are these our options?

The pictures were taken with an iPhone 5S (flash off). The tablet's brightness was maxed and as you can see, the room was dark. Does this degree of backlight bleed warrant a return (mainly concerned of the tablet's longevity. Thoughts appreciated.

manhattan212 said:
The pictures were taken with an iPhone 5S (flash off). The tablet's brightness was maxed and as you can see, the room was dark. Does this degree of backlight bleed warrant a return (mainly concerned of the tablet's longevity. Thoughts appreciated.
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You need to take a picture with a plain black background, only then can we give you our thoughts.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.

Geordie Affy said:
You need to take a picture with a plain black background, only then can we give you our thoughts.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.
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manhattan212 said:
The pictures were taken with an iPhone 5S (flash off). The tablet's brightness was maxed and as you can see, the room was dark. Does this degree of backlight bleed warrant a return (mainly concerned of the tablet's longevity. Thoughts appreciated.
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here it is. Same exact conditions. Thanks for your opinion, in advance.

The picture isnt very clear as its difficult to take a picture of properly but if the points I have highlighted are the only bit of screen light bleed you have then yeah its normal, I have pretty much identical bleed points too as do most people on here.
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Geordie Affy said:
The picture isnt very clear as its difficult to take a picture of properly but if the points I have highlighted are the only bit of screen light bleed you have then yeah its normal, I have pretty much identical bleed points too as do most people on here.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.
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Thanks, I appreciate the prompt response.
And I'm inclined to agree with your observation. In particular, those are indeed the points of bleeding.
What do you make of the top corners being so bright, though? It's not like the points you've highlighted, but rather large areas -maybe this is where the light comes from?
In all honesty, I'm more concerned about future degradation than anything else. If the device is going to remain as is, I don't mind the current state of bleeding. But if this is an indication that the device will be noticeably worse in a few months down the road, then I'd like to take it back to the shop and exchange it.
Again, thanks for your time and opinion.
Much appreciated -and thanked.

manhattan212 said:
Thanks, I appreciate the prompt response.
And I'm inclined to agree with your observation. In particular, those are indeed the points of bleeding.
What do you make of the top corners being so bright, though? It's not like the points you've highlighted, but rather large areas -maybe this is where the light comes from?
In all honesty, I'm more concerned about future degradation than anything else. If the device is going to remain as is, I don't mind the current state of bleeding. But if this is an indication that the device will be noticeably worse in a few months down the road, then I'd like to take it back to the shop and exchange it.
Again, thanks for your time and opinion.
Much appreciated -and thanked.
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No problem mate.
From what I understand Lightbleed comes from the points it's visable - it's just that for whatever reason the device doesn't block the light passing through hence the brighter areas along the bottom. And about degradation from what I have read it doesn't get worse or better just stays like that.
It depends on you if you want to give it back and keep trying to get a bleedless device but as some form of Lightbleed is common on LCD's it will be tough. I returned one due to high Lightbleed which was visable in a lit room and the brightness on low - that's bad Lightbleed and I couldn't accept that so I got the one I have now and the Lightbleed for me is more than acceptable. Plus the other problem is if your device is perfect apart from the bit of Lightbleed your next one could have other issues LOL.
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.

Geordie Affy said:
Plus the other problem is if your device is perfect apart from the bit of Lightbleed your next one could have other issues LOL
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And on that note, I'll be sticking with this one.

Irregular Display Lighting (with Pictures)

I have a visible light strip at the top of the display... what should I do? I say to myself I don't care but it annoys me because I keep noticing it.
Here pictures, please check them out:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive

That's light bleed

do you have it too? should I send it back or do all lg g4 have this?

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Weird... heres the drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
Do you guys have this too?

ruzkay said:
Weird... heres the drive folder:
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/...xWVXBiUGhRTG9MR19qTTVlejJkQ3RYdUk?ltmpl=drive
Do you guys have this too?
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That's light bleed - light seeping from the backlight into the edges of the display. Happens when the display is compressed/bent during installation into the phone. Nothing you can do about it but get the phone exchanged if it bothers you that much. However, if you exchange it, it's the luck of the draw - you might get a better one or a much worse one.
Unfortunately, all LCD displays are prone to this, as manufacturers would have to reject something like 50% of them otherwise - I had to go through SIX brand-new 27" Dell monitors before I found two that I could live with - and they're still far from perfect.
I had to exchange my iPad Mini twice to get a good display, and my Nexus 9 three times. It's totally random. Got lucky with my G4 that has a perfect screen (though I had to exchange it, too, as the first one had dust stuck between the front glass and the display panel).
Manufacturers just have really low "acceptable quality" standards to maximize profits/units sold, as many people will never notice those issues.

siraltus said:
That's light bleed - light seeping from the backlight into the edges of the display. Happens when the display is compressed/bent during installation into the phone. Nothing you can do about it but get the phone exchanged if it bothers you that much. However, if you exchange it, it's the luck of the draw - you might get a better one or a much worse one.
Unfortunately, all LCD displays are prone to this, as manufacturers would have to reject something like 50% of them otherwise - I had to go through SIX brand-new 27" Dell monitors before I found two that I could live with - and they're still far from perfect.
I had to exchange my iPad Mini twice to get a good display, and my Nexus 9 three times. It's totally random. Got lucky with my G4 that has a perfect screen (though I had to exchange it, too, as the first one had dust stuck between the front glass and the display panel).
Manufacturers just have really low "acceptable quality" standards to maximize profits/units sold, as many people will never notice those issues.
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I see thanks, I had some light bleed (I knew what it is didn't remember the english word LOL) on my N4 too but nowhere near this and it didn't seem like a solid strip more random...
Sent it back... hope I got luck with the next one, and hope Amazon is quick my current phones battery is pretty much dead...

IPS Screen/Backlight issue/bleed!

This being my first smartphone, I apologise if this question has been asked before and for generally being a noob, but hoping a recent answer would clarify the situation for me.
I know IPS screens for any type of device/product are prone to backlight bleeding, the reason I have a VA pc monitor. I did consider an amoled screen, but for the price, £300 and my intended uses, the G4 was the best option presently.
Without another phone to test it against and no photographic evidence for you guys my description is the best I can do. There are two points on the screen where I believe there is some bleeding present, but this is still subjective. The first is the along the top edge, where there is a very thin lighter strip of possible bleed, maybe an issue with the panel, where the info bar is normally present, that is lighter than then rest of the screen. I can notice it whilst watching full screen video, not always, when the bar is absent. The second is more minor, there are two spots on the bottom of the panel, either side and just above the LG logo where there is some bleed leakage, but minor.
I guess I'm asking is this common and worth the risk of replacing, or are the odds are I might get the same again?
Thanks.

Some light bleed top and bottom is going to be somewhat inevitable. On my phone it is noticeable if you look for it, but not too bad.
I have another issue with the panel itself not being uniform. The top of the panel (near the earpiece) is all bright and possibly on the touch of the yellow side of white. Lower down the screen towards the bottom left it goes towards pink.
Is yours OK in this regard? It is most noticeable with the phone in landscape reading forums like this.
I have a replacement phone arriving tomorrow to compare it to.

lozzauk said:
Some light bleed top and bottom is going to be somewhat inevitable. On my phone it is noticeable if you look for it, but not too bad.
I have another issue with the panel itself not being uniform. The top of the panel (near the earpiece) is all bright and possibly on the touch of the yellow side of white. Lower down the screen towards the bottom left it goes towards pink.
Is yours OK in this regard? It is most noticeable with the phone in landscape reading forums like this.
I have a replacement phone arriving tomorrow to compare it to.
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The uniformity on mine seems okay - using your suggested test on 50% brightness on this webpage, I have none of the other issues you mentioned (pink or yellowing), apart from that bright strip along the entire top edge under the front facing camera that is brighter and slightly washes out any colour/images on that edge.

mstrmind5 said:
The uniformity on mine seems okay - using your suggested test on 50% brightness on this webpage, I have none of the other issues you mentioned (pink or yellowing), apart from that bright strip along the entire top edge under the front facing camera that is brighter and slightly washes out any colour/images on that edge.
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Thanks. Another place it is noticeable on mine is in Gmail or any notification on the notification bar in landscape. Almost as if one side of the screen is a different colour to the other although you won't notice in photos or videos. Only on white/grey backgrounds.
It sounds like all you are seeing is the backlight bleeding through, this will happen to some extent on all LCD's. I tried screen test on the play store and on the black background test I can see a faint bar of greyish light right at the top of the screen. Unless you go AMOLED I think any replacement phone is going to look the same.

lozzauk said:
Thanks. Another place it is noticeable on mine is in Gmail or any notification on the notification bar in landscape. Almost as if one side of the screen is a different colour to the other although you won't notice in photos or videos. Only on white/grey backgrounds.
It sounds like all you are seeing is the backlight bleeding through, this will happen to some extent on all LCD's. I tried screen test on the play store and on the black background test I can see a faint bar of greyish light right at the top of the screen. Unless you go AMOLED I think any replacement phone is going to look the same.
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Hopefully a replacment will be an improvement for you.
I'll see a few days how this bleed works out for me. Would get an amoled, but the prices plus a lack of microsd card limit any options for me. Since testing lcd monitors, always try to avoid them now because of the panel issues that are inherent to this tech process.
Good luck on any replacment.

mstrmind5 said:
Hopefully a replacment will be an improvement for you.
I'll see a few days how this bleed works out for me. Would get an amoled, but the prices plus a lack of microsd card limit any options for me. Since testing lcd monitors, always try to avoid them now because of the panel issues that are inherent to this tech process.
Good luck on any replacment.
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There's been a few good deals on the Galaxy S6 (around £325 unlocked) but all the reports of poor signal puts me off (and of course there's no micro SD). The G4 seems very strong in this regard, only phone I've ever had that works in a few of the blackspots round here (all other phones report no service) Some reviews even mention that it is a bit deaf.
AMOLED isn't without its own issues though.

lozzauk said:
There's been a few good deals on the Galaxy S6 (around £325 unlocked) but all the reports of poor signal puts me off (and of course there's no micro SD). The G4 seems very strong in this regard, only phone I've ever had that works in a few of the blackspots round here (all other phones report no service) Some reviews even mention that it is a bit deaf.
AMOLED isn't without its own issues though.
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All true, I've heard complaints about screen burn in on with amoled screens, some mentioned in the reviews of the Nexus 6P.

mstrmind5 said:
All true, I've heard complaints about screen burn in on with amoled screens, some mentioned in the reviews of the Nexus 6P.
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I don't think screen burn is as bad as it used to be. I had pretty bad screen burn pretty quickly on a Galaxy Nexus.
Here's my LG G4, can you see the pink in that? i.imgur.com/YjmtPtT.jpg
Sorry can't post links yet. Very poor quality image, taken on my work phone.

lozzauk said:
I don't think screen burn is as bad as it used to be. I had pretty bad screen burn pretty quickly on a Galaxy Nexus.
Here's my LG G4, can you see the pink in that? i.imgur.com/YjmtPtT.jpg
Sorry can't post links yet. Very poor quality image, taken on my work phone.
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Yes, definitely around the middle-right-lower portion, pinkish presence even in that picture. You still within the retailer warranty/return period? If so, don't hesitate to return it.

mstrmind5 said:
Yes, definitely around the middle-right-lower portion, pinkish presence even in that picture. You still within the retailer warranty/return period? If so, don't hesitate to return it.
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It's not that obvious in real life, looks worse in the picture to be honest but I still can't live with it. It'll be going back when the replacement arrives tomorrow. Hopefully the replacement is fine otherwise I won't know what phone to get to replace it with. I can't get over how good the signal is now on it.

lozzauk said:
It's not that obvious in real life, looks worse in the picture to be honest but I still can't live with it. It'll be going back when the replacement arrives tomorrow. Hopefully the replacement is fine otherwise I won't know what phone to get to replace it with. I can't get over how good the signal is now on it.
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Hope it works out for you, good luck!

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Hope it works out for you, good luck!
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Replacement is way better. It's definitely a keeper. Has the slight 'light bleed' that you mentioned in your OP but the panel is at least completely uniform.

lozzauk said:
Replacement is way better. It's definitely a keeper. Has the slight 'light bleed' that you mentioned in your OP but the panel is at least completely uniform.
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I'm glad it's worked out for you.

Green tint on greys

Is this normal? Greys have a green tint which is really noticeable on low brightness. Is this a limitation of AMOLED? But I don't recall this issue on my 6P or Note 4.

Hmm. Not having this issue...

Greys are really greenish. Though it happens only at some certain brightness level (a little more than the lowest).

The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review

Not noticing this on mine either.
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I may have a slight tint on mine on greys, only on one half of the screen though. I'm colourblind so it could be green. I'm thinking it's more purple-ish though...

edios123 said:
Greys are really greenish. Though it happens only at some certain brightness level (a little more than the lowest).
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mr mystery said:
The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review
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Not noticing this on mine either.
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I may have a slight tint on mine on greys, only on one half of the screen though. I'm colourblind so it could be green. I'm thinking it's more purple-ish though...
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Yes what I had experienced from my last 3 phones I.e galaxy s2,s3,s4,s4 mini,s5 all of em which had amoled screen all have this thing. Its like if u seen u can't able to unseen. But its hard to notice. I think these displays are rather builded like this to work. Even my brother's new s7 has this thing.

rayzen6 said:
Yes what I had experienced from my last 3 phones I.e galaxy s2,s3,s4,s4 mini,s5 all of em which had amoled screen all have this thing. Its like if u seen u can't able to unseen. But its hard to notice. I think these displays are rather builded like this to work. Even my brother's new s7 has this thing.
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On only part of the screen though? I know when tilting AMOLED displays that can happen but head on I don't know. (I've avoided AMOLED up until now because my last couple experiences with older ones was not so nice)

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On only part of the screen though? I know when tilting AMOLED displays that can happen but head on I don't know. (I've avoided AMOLED up until now because my last couple experiences with older ones was not so nice)
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Yes on part of the screen at bottom its much noticeable in dark.

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Yes on part of the screen at bottom its much noticeable in dark.
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Guess that answers that, cheers!. (although mine might be right side of the screen, not bottom)

On my phone, the bottom part is also "greener" than the upper part. This is especially visible when brightness is set low (which I do when not outside, because it totally suffices).
Do more people have this problem?
Would returning the unit and getting a new OP3 make sense, or are these unevennesses typical??

hasenbein1966 said:
On my phone, the bottom part is also "greener" than the upper part. This is especially visible when brightness is set low (which I do when not outside, because it totally suffices).
Do more people have this problem?
Would returning the unit and getting a new OP3 make sense, or are these unevennesses typical??
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I'm wondering if it's just an AMOLED thing... If it's really really bad then you may be better off RMA-ing it of course.

mr mystery said:
The panel apparently is of low quality and has issues with greys. It's detailed in the anandtech.com review
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The findings on Anandtech have nothing to do with the quality and everything to do with the calibration, which is just software.

Hi, is it darker like the pics from my thread? I think I have the same issue on my display, just at the middle of the screen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/dark-line-oled-screen-t3402293

One thought came to me: In the upper half of the OP3 are the parts which get warm when the phone "works". Perhaps the part of the screen which is warmed up regularly loses a bit of green tint, while the lower, colder part remains as it is??? Just a thought...

I get a weird purpley/dark colour on greys and when scrolling white font on black background, but only on minimum brightness.
After reducing brightness below a threshold (just above the minimum) the colours across the display seem to shift
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I got my replacement phone today. And. The display is even more worse. The colors are uneven, like some of them have here. The bottom is greener and the top slighlty pinkier/the correct color.

Argh. That's what I'm afraid of (sent my device in for replacement on Saturday):
That, as a replacement, simply someone grabs a box with a new device and sends it to me, without testing.
Edios, what did you write in the service request as your reason why you want a replacement? Did you write about the display problems?
Welcome to the lottery...
Does anyone know: If the 2nd device also has a defect, and the 14 day return time since I got the 1st device is already over, can I demand from Oneplus that they take back the 2nd device and that I get my money back??

hasenbein1966 said:
Argh. That's what I'm afraid of (sent my device in for replacement on Saturday):
That, as a replacement, simply someone grabs a box with a new device and sends it to me, without testing.
Edios, what did you write in the service request as your reason why you want a replacement? Did you write about the display problems?
Welcome to the lottery...
Does anyone know: If the 2nd device also has a defect, and the 14 day return time since I got the 1st device is already over, can I demand from Oneplus that they take back the 2nd device and that I get my money back??
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I didn't even mention the issues, Amazon immediately gave me a replacement.
The problem is, they provide only a single replacement and now insisting to give a refund. But I want this device cos there's no other device that I'm interested in. And it's out of stock also.

For what it's worth, these sound like typical AMOLED issues. There are long threads in the Galaxy S6, S7, etc. forums with people experiencing the exact same thing. AMOLEDs just seem to not be as consistent as LCDs in the quality control department and it's always just the luck of the draw whether you get one with green or pink tints or not.

Should i get this phone?

Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?

I got a P2XL 64BG black to replace my 1st Gen Pixel 128GB and overall I'm happy with my purchase. That's not to say the display is perfect, I do have the blue shift when I look at it sideways and I also don't really like the bland colors. I haven't had any issues with burn-in yet though I did install the 8.1 beta to make sure that the soft keys don't burn in. That said Google increasing the warranty to 2 years, the beta dims the soft keys and Google is promising a software update that will offer a more saturated color scheme.....so between what Google has done and are in process of doing I am not really too concerned about the display issues. Display aside it's a great phone, it doesn't get warm like my Pixel did, it's very fast, smooth, great battery life and the 3 years of OS updates is a great perk. I can't speak for anyone else but I am happy with my purchase and will be keeping my P2XL. The best advice I can offer is what others have said in other threads, go to a store and check one out for yourself then decide.

It rocks. Get it.

i love my phone. im coming from the OG pixel
all the negative reviewers are just dumb imho

I highly recommend it for fun on XDA! But it's your decision...

I love the phone too. Only grip is the fingerprint reader. Finger needs to be dry & clean. Otherwise it won't work well.

Go for it. I upgraded to P2XL from Nexus 6
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kel29738 said:
Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
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I got a P2XL 64BG black to replace my 1st Gen Pixel 128GB and overall I'm happy with my purchase. That's not to say the display is perfect, I do have the blue shift when I look at it sideways and I also don't really like the bland colors. I haven't had any issues with burn-in yet though I did install the 8.1 beta to make sure that the soft keys don't burn in. That said Google increasing the warranty to 2 years, the beta dims the soft keys and Google is promising a software update that will offer a more saturated color scheme.....so between what Google has done and are in process of doing I am not really too concerned about the display issues. Display aside it's a great phone, it doesn't get warm like my Pixel did, it's very fast, smooth, great battery life and the 3 years of OS updates is a great perk. I can't speak for anyone else but I am happy with my purchase and will be keeping my P2XL. The best advice I can offer is what others have said in other threads, go to a store and check one out for yourself then decide.
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I have had mine for nearly two weeks and it is absolutely stunning. Yeah I have a bit of the blue shift (to be expected on most OLED displays) that I don't mind at all, haven't seen much burn-in at all but have moved over to immersive mode via ADB until they release some additional screen fixes/improvements to try and help with it, haven't seen any black smearing whatsoever, etc. In regards to the bland colors, Google announced saturation mode that I imagine will come with the December release? This will be x amount more than the current vibrant mode or whatever it is, I believe it is +10%+, not certain on how much more saturation mode will be, if you dig more vibrant colors and all. I actually prefer, the more true-looking, duller colors but do have vibrant mode turned on (not much of noticeable difference), will play around with "saturation mode" once available but will likely stick with the duller look, saturation mode may be good for video viewing/editing and watching movies/videos.
Like the first poster said, the phone is great, does not get warm, incredibly fast and feels buttery smooth, the battery life is phenomenal, 2 years of warranty and 3 years of OS updates. Could not be happier. I almost got 50 hours out of my phone the other day, probably would have but needed to head out so wanted to throw it on charger, ended up charging it at 7% and about 48 hours off charger, granted I barely had screen on (4 hours) as it was a busy weekend where I didn't need my phone much but all in all very impressed as I have quite possibly every little battery sucker turned on on the phone. I did do some GPSing, lots of music, texting, some snapchatting, lots of Twitter feeds loading, etc. but I'd say mostly light to moderate use, impressed nonetheless.
In the end, it is your choice but I could not be happier with my purchase and would do it all over again, had I known about screen issues upfront.
EDIT: I take back the saturation mode coming in December release.....it is here and available in the November release. I will post screens to a different thread and can provide a link to it later but just thought I'd let you all know.

kel29738 said:
Yeah we all heard about the screen quality issues and stuff, But is it really that bad? I would love to get one coming from the og pixel xl. But do you guys recommend me getting one?
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Yes

Disregarding screen issues that don't even bother me personally. The colors I know will be fixed either by Google or of not with root and custom kernele we will be able to fix that. The phone is amazing. If you do paranoid about the screen stop at a Verizon location and look at it even if you don't have verizon, but I don't recommend buying in through Verizon! :highfive:

I've had mine almost 2 weeks and really haven't found any reason to not love it.
I did a comparison of the screen / blue tint HERE if you want to see a bunch of side by side comparisons.
But honestly, like I've told everyone who's asked: get one, keep it a week, use it play with it, run it through your daily use, and then make the call to keep it or return it.
Nearly every aspect of liking a device is subjective to each person's individual likes and tastes.
I'd hate to see you cheat yourself out of a great device because someone else said it sucked, or had this flaw.
Get it. If you hate it, or just can't get over the blue tint, return it and move on
No one knows better than YOU what you'll like.

If you have to ask, then the answer is NO!
The device is only for self-minded individuals.

If you like a good screen then no

Reuben_skelz92 said:
If you like a good screen then no
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?? My screen is beautiful and I am not experiencing some of the issues others have had. I believe most of the screen issues were related to a few specific batches....they have already came out with an update to fix and help improve many of the lil nuances ppl have been knee jerk complaining about. The screen is fine unless you are the super picky type.

cwburns32 said:
?? My screen is beautiful and I am not experiencing some of the issues others have had. I believe most of the screen issues were related to a few specific batches....they have already came out with an update to fix and help improve many of the lil nuances ppl have been knee jerk complaining about. The screen is fine unless you are the super picky type.
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False statement. The update only sorted the colours... More saturation. Most of the issues are hardware. It's not just a few batches. You don't have to be picky to not be happy with the issues...at the high price too. It's been proven the LG p oled in most cases is sub par

Reuben_skelz92 said:
False statement. The update only sorted the colours... More saturation. Most of the issues are hardware. It's not just a few batches. You don't have to be picky to not be happy with the issues...at the high price too. It's been proven the LG p oled in most cases is sub par
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Did it? It didn't provide the dimming of the home back and recent buttons to help prevent burn-in? It didn't update brightness configs? It wasn't just colors...
And yes not all batches have the burn-in or even the severe blue tinting issues. I have no signs of burn-in and compared my phone to another P2XL and my blue tinting is hardly visible when my buddies is easily noticed. He does not have any noticeable burn-in either.
I understand that a lot of it is hardware related but there can be improvements on software side to help make the screen last as long as possible as we all know OLEDs decay over time regardless. Is it sub par, it very well may be, but to the average user I dont know if they will notice it being sub par versus superb. I honestly have zero gripes with screen, it is highly objective, but so is the term "good screen".
And, as I mentioned in my post, in the end it will be up to the end user to decide if the screen is bad or not.

I love my Pixel 2 XL. It's the best phone I've ever used and that's with five years of selling phones.
The screen isn't as good as Samsungs. I wish that it was, especially considering the price tag. But the screen is not bad but any means. The blue tint is a design choice. It doesn't bother me. I would like a wider color gamut than just the RGB colorspace and the new "saturated" option just seems to make everything more saturated as opposed to just enabling super saturated colors to be displayed. I find that very disappointing. But that is fixable...
I could go on and nitpick the rest of the phone, but truly the reason to buy this phone above all others is the software. It's buttery smooth. It makes the other companies software look bit silly.

I would recommend the phone. It was otherwise perfect for me if not the screen, and the screen is not that bad especially after the OS update yesterday. I don't see any graininess. I like the natural color more (and now you can change to saturated mode), there is very slight screen burn in or image retention (which I have to look for it by downloading a screen test app and adjust the screen brightness and environment lighting to be able to see, normally I just can't see it). The worst about the screen for me is the blue tint. It was very noticeable when I first switch on the phone, perhaps I specifically look for it after reading all the comments everywhere. After using it for a week, it becomes less and less noticeable. And now in the saturated mode, the blue tint becomes the normal color I am used to, while the normal color when viewed straight on becomes a vibrant and saturated one that everyone else wants.
However, I agree with others that you can go to a verizon store and have a look yourself. And buy and try for a week then decide whether you want to return it.

If google had gone with a samsung panel this would have been the best phone every

Reuben_skelz92 said:
If google had gone with a samsung panel this would have been the best phone every
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And more RAM, and a headphone jack... I would agree absolutely.
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