I just came across this tweet this morning and am wondering if anyone is already experiencing this on here.
https://twitter.com/alexdobie/status/922060857659547648
It's probably image retention and not actually burn in.
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This is exactly why all phones with on screen navigation need to have auto hide capabilities.
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Not at all. I just activated immersive mode via adb anyways because I like the way it looks with the curved display and taking up the entire display. I also use unique controls to put a pie on the right side since the bottom of the screen is so low, it's easier to use a pie on the side to navigate for reachability with one hand.
To elaborate on your question, I have no burn in and no retention. People talked about burn in early on with the Pixel 1 (and XL), but mine still has none even though I used the on screen navbar.
My Nexus 6, 6p Pixel 1 and my 2 XL have zero burn in. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.damianpiwowarski.navbarapps&hl=en fantastic app.
Yeah. Checked mine. No burn in.
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My Nexus 6, 6p Pixel 1 and my 2 XL have zero burn in. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.damianpiwowarski.navbarapps&hl=en fantastic app.
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Yup yup.. I'm running them and I use SystemUI tuner to auto hide navs when I wish.. Excellent [emoji1303]
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https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/22/16518298/google-investigating-pixel-2-xl-screen-burn-in
Apparently Google are looking into it.
I got mine on Oct 18th and did a quick test.
I do (slightly) see what is described as burn-in, but I see it only when I go beyond 50% brightness.
I usually use my phone at around 40% brightness. Hoping it doesn't get worse.
I always wondered why someone asked me to add a blank or transparent Navbar to my Amazed Navbar theme, now I know. The navbar is there and def no chance of screen burn in LOL.
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I always wondered why someone asked me to add a blank or transparent Navbar to my Amazed Navbar theme, now I know. The navbar is there and def no chance of screen burn in LOL.
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LOL nice. It actually has more to do with Google's ingenious idea of making the navbar/statusbar black vs some dynamic color or transparent. That causes uneven wear of the screen and burn-in occurs as a result.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...re-screen-real-estate-no-root-needed-0177297/
Would this work for my pixel 2 XL?
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As fond of this device I am. I just checked and I've got the screen burn in as well. I've had mine since the 20th. This really is sad. I don't mind the panel and all the complaints people had with the blue hue when you tilt it. But this is simply unacceptable. I will be returning both of my devices
I've had mine since the 20th as well. I checked and I have the screen burn as well. Something like this can't be fixed after it has already happened, correct?
not defending the screen at all (sending mine back, not RMA, just return for money back because of the extreme blue shift), but i had the burn in yesterday when i checked (very faint but could see the bottom bar) and now this morning i rechecked first thing and i dont see it anymore...so again, might be a retention thing over a burn in thing. but still this panel is garbage.
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Yup yup.. I'm running them and I use SystemUI tuner to auto hide navs when I wish.. Excellent [emoji1303]
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How do you do that?
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Cannot say that I like burn-in issues. But this is nothing new. Reported as an issue with Samsung S8 after a week...
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...laxy-s8-prevent-from-happening-again-0177379/
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not defending the screen at all (sending mine back, not RMA, just return for money back because of the extreme blue shift), but i had the burn in yesterday when i checked (very faint but could see the bottom bar) and now this morning i rechecked first thing and i dont see it anymore...so again, might be a retention thing over a burn in thing. but still this panel is garbage.
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I experienced the same thing. Last night using the grey screen image from Android Central, I noticed the burn in and then this morning using the black and red screen images from Android Central, there was no burn in. However, when I use the grey one again, the "image burn" is still there. Not sure why it comes up on some color screens and not others, and I dont know why Android Central switched the test image. I guess we wait on Google.
Verizon Agent store employee here: Just wanted to give some feedback about burn in. I set up the demo units at my store four days ago on Friday. Both the Pixel 2 XL and the Pixel 2 have slight burn in at the navigation bar already. The buttons can't be seen, but there is a horizontal line across where the navbar would start.
Granted, these phones run 12 hours a day with the screen on and are always charging, but they are on 50% brightness and operate with night mode turned on (lowest intensity) to lessen the speed burn-in takes hold. No OLED panels survive demo modes on any manufacturer! Keep this in mind when going to a retail location to check out phones.
I hope that those experiencing burn-in with normal use are a legitimate few. I pre-ordered a Pixel 2 XL despite having a distaste for LG's build quality with phones. I've come around in the last couple years because of their improvements. Don't let me down, LG!
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https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...re-screen-real-estate-no-root-needed-0177297/
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Probably. I just tried it on my XL and it works.
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I'm worried about burn in with the on screen buttons. I know it's been an issue in the past with nexus 6p and other amoled panels, any way to prevent this issue? I'm used to capacitive buttons on Samsungs that prevent this
No way to prevent it, AMOLED = burn-in.
(On Nexus phones, at least)
I've had my 6p for one year and do not have any noticeable burn in.
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I've had my 6p for one year and do not have any noticeable burn in.
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You just don't see it.
I have seen it in ALL the Nexus 6P I had in my hands.
I always disable the onscreen buttons and use app like "Swipe Navigation" in the play store. It prevents the bottom burn in and frees up more screen real estate. It's really the main thing i use root for now days on amoled displays.
I have ZERO burn in on my 6P as well and I am pretty attention to detail when it comes to these things.
How do you disable the on screen buttons. Would this just mean you would swipe up for them to temporarily appear?
More than a year with my 6P, no burn in as well.
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You just don't see it.
I have seen it in ALL the Nexus 6P I had in my hands.
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Lol. That's a little presumptuous. Even if you are right, if it isn't noticeable to him, who cares if it there or not?
If you are that OCD, you should probably just stick to LCD - as OLED technology is all similar in burn in susceptibility.
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Lol I never noticed my 6P burn in until I read this thread lol. But it's so minimum....that you won't see it unless your looking for it
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I use rotate apps on my phone. Try to use my.phone upside down when gpsing and stuff. Never got burn in on my s6, note5 or note 7. Then again i never had those phones for more than a year
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I have "Screen Burn-in Tool" set to run for 90 minutes every night while I sleep with the hope of limiting it.
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How do you disable the on screen buttons. Would this just mean you would swipe up for them to temporarily appear?
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You have to have root to disable them. That particular app doesn't show them when you swipe up. You just swipe in that area and you will trigger the designated button that you assign.
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More than a year with my 6P, no burn in as well.
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Use a "dead pixel" app to make the whole screen appear without the navigation buttons and put it on a white or grey screen.
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I have "Screen Burn-in Tool" set to run for 90 minutes every night while I sleep with the hope of limiting it.
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That does not help at all. Quickly turning on and off subpixels has no effect on burn-in, only on image retention (which is more or less "non permanent" burn in). It in fact does more harm then good, reducing the overall screen life by 90 minutes every night. Amoleds have the tendency to lose color accuracy in time, due to the blue subpixels depleting faster.
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I'm worried about burn in with the on screen buttons. I know it's been an issue in the past with nexus 6p and other amoled panels, any way to prevent this issue? I'm used to capacitive buttons on Samsungs that prevent this
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Developer Options has an option to prevent burn-in.
But will you really have this phone long enough for it to be an issue?
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Developer Options has an option to prevent burn-in.
But will you really have this phone long enough for it to be an issue?
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I agree. You at least need to have the phone for 2 years or more for you to notice it without having it look for it. I had my 6p for a year with more than normal usage and you really have to look pretty hard to see it. Almost have to imagine it's there in order for your eyes to pick it up. Interestingly the status bar had no burn in from what I could tell.
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Developer Options has an option to prevent burn-in.
But will you really have this phone long enough for it to be an issue?
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Where is this option in developer settings?
I use rotation apps that allow me to use my phone upside down. figure it will cut burn in, in half.
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It definitely burns in. I use Car Home Ultra when I drive with the display at full brightness, and I got it bad.
I actually made a video about it on my Youtube channel - https://youtu.be/zwosaQWffI4
If this happens to you, I recommend you contact Google and get a replacement. I was able to do this without a problem. My argument was that there was no warning or documentation about using your device like this.
Best way to prevent visible burn in is to get a rotation app that lets you use your phone upside down.
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There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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I somewhat am afraid of this also. I don't mind that LG is making this panel but I do mind if it looks like this.
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It will definitely be tested ASAP. If the panels reveal the same issues, we will know about it with the quickness.
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It's going to have the same issues because it's the same screen. Don't expect otherwise.
I wonder if it's the same screen. The V30 display is HDR, 109% DCI-P3, 148% sRGB. The Pixel 2 XL has no mention of HDR and 100% DCI-P3.
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I wonder if it's the same screen. The V30 display is HDR, 109% DCI-P3, 148% sRGB. The Pixel 2 XL has no mention of HDR and 100% DCI-P3.
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It's gonna be the same. They aren't manufacturing different panels for the v30 and xl2.
Just in case, what is the out of the box test procedure to fully inspect screen for quality or defects?
How many complaints have there been? I've only seen the screenshot posted in the OP, which was posted by ARS technica if I'm not mistaken. I also remember David over at Androidpolice mentioning it when the brightness is set to minimum on one Pixel 2 XL unit. Unless we start getting reviews this isn't a widespread issue. Only two units have been confirmed so far, so no need to worry.
Not to mention, LG isn't the only one that has this issue, some s7 and s8 phones have this issue too:
http://i.imgur.com/XmS7SVh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fusYikY.jpg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3678570&d=1457658022
Does anyone k ow how bright the screen is supposed to be in nitts?
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Does anyone k ow how bright the screen is supposed to be in nitts?
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Not known yet, have to wait for the reviews. V30 reviews might eventually shed light on this if they are released before any Pixel 2 XL reviews.
The screen is 100% DPI-P3. It says it on their website.
Anyone go to Verizon store to check the phone out?
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I wonder this myself. I guess I can stop by Verizon after work tomorrow and have a look. It's hard to see uniformity problems in the brightly-lit store environment though, these sorts of issues are best seen in darkness or a dimly lit room.
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Anyone go to Verizon store to check the phone out?
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I went out to the Verizon store today and was profoundly underwhelmed by the XL 2 display.
First, it had a huge black band in the middle. Apparently it's not the only unit with this problem, someone on reddit posted the same issue I saw on my demo unit (https://imgur.com/a/CbfIH)
Second, colors were very dull and the whole screen had a hideous blue tint. I was instantly turned off by it. I've seen many many many displays through the years. Many phones have just fine displays, other's great (og Pixel XL, Galaxy S8...), but this Pixel XL 2 I saw was simply bad. Real bad for a $800+ device. I'm sort of hoping it was just this unit, but I've seen many reports already in reddit that are complaining about the same thing.
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There have been complaints about the LG POLED screens regarding screen uniformity. Hopefully Google gets the better quality panels than what LG uses on their own devices. I know that if I receive my phone and the screen looks like this, it's going back in the mail to be returned to Google the same day. I hope they don't screw this up, the Pixel 2 XL is such an expensive device that selling people screens like that on a $1,000 phone will not acceptable to a lot of buyers.
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I'm pretty sure LG isn't reserving the "good" panels for the Pixel 2/XL. They are both getting the same screen. POLED screens from earlier LG phones have had the same issues. If it's something you obsess over, you will see it. If you don't go hunting for it, you won't.
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I'm pretty sure LG isn't reserving the "good" panels for the Pixel 2/XL. They are both getting the same screen. POLED screens from earlier LG phones have had the same issues. If it's something you obsess over, you will see it. If you don't go hunting for it, you won't.
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But to have this issue on a 1k$ phone... Unacceptable
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Questionable screen is a show stopper for me. The xl screen is great. Thought I had a dead spot but reboot fixed. I liked 6p screen size. While a big phone much easier for old eyes. Thought $410 trade was good reason to switch to 2 xl same size as 6p but having second thoughts now.
Would like to hear more about the plastic oled tech. Anyone have link to a good lg thread on the screen?
Just checked xl2 out at verizon. My impression is that it feels good in hand. Buttons tactile dont like volume buttons are one unit tho. I like the texure of the body. Screen looks fine but the color seems too much black. Too much black in all color. I still see this oled color shifting in some viewing angle. Stereo speakers seems not that loud not much bass either.
Oh the vibration feels good like samsung kinda.
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But to have this issue on a 1k$ phone... Unacceptable
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I don't disagree. So is having 4GB of RAM on a 1k phone. It's the technology they chose to have the squeeze gimmick. It's not like LG is reserving the good POLED screens for the Pixel 2 was my main point. It's also really hard to notice unless the screen is dimmed in my experience. Not making excuses, though.
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The possible screen "issue" is when the phone brightness is turned all the way down correct? If so...non issue for me. I can probably count the length of the minutes on one hand of the time I've had the brightness turned all the way down the past few years.
Do you guys think over the next year it could really affect the use of phone? I've never had any problems with screen burn in so I don't know much about it. Just wondering as I really love my XL, but I'll return it if it's going to be an issue later on. I do have a little burn now.
Thanks!
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Do you guys think over the next year it could really affect the use of phone? I've never had any problems with screen burn in so I don't know much about it. Just wondering as I really love my XL, but I'll return it if it's going to be an issue later on. I do have a little burn now.
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for me, its never an issue unless u look at it everyday and get bothered.
I just discovered it in my Pixel XL. I would have never noticed it until I did the gray screen test. In normal use, it just doesn't matter.
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I just discovered it in my Pixel XL. I would have never noticed it until I did the gray screen test. In normal use, it just doesn't matter.
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I tend to agree. However, is there a chance that it can get worse where it does become visible in normal use over the 2-3 years we will have the phone?
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I tend to agree. However, is there a chance that it can get worse where it does become visible in normal use over the 2-3 years we will have the phone?
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I have had more oled phones than I can remember. Every single one has had burn in my note 4 had it th worst. It was never an issue 99 percent of the time. It really is only noticed on very specific solid color screens and even then you don't really. My pixel XL had it I didn't even notice till I checked the other day .
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IMHO the nav bar and status bar are the worst offenders. Using expanded desktop helps by keeping the icons off the screen except when you need them.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
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IMHO the nav bar and status bar are the worst offenders. Using expanded desktop helps by keeping the icons off the screen except when you need them.
"Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment." - Will Rogers
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No no no. A lot of people are looking at this issue in an inverted way. Literally everything except the navigation bar and notification bar is burnt. With OLED black=off.
When looking at the grey image, the navigation bar stands out because it's not burnt. The buttons on the nav bar are burnt, and if you check, they will match the top 95% of the screen.
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No no no. A lot of people are looking at this issue in an inverted way. Literally everything except the navigation bar and notification bar is burnt. With OLED black=off.
When looking at the grey image, the navigation bar stands out because it's not burnt. The buttons on the nav bar are burnt, and if you check, they will match the top 95% of the screen.
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This is normal black is off so the nav and status bar will always be less burned than the rest of th screen it just stands out because of it.
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This is normal black is off so the nav and status bar will always be less burned than the rest of th screen it just stands out because of it.
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Right, I am saying the nav bar isn't burnt. I am seeing alot of people blaming the nav bar for the screen burn-ins when it's the opposite.
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Right, I am saying the nav bar isn't burnt. I am seeing alot of people blaming the nav bar for the screen burn-ins when it's the opposite.
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Your right. I was being lazy. It's the buttons and it drives me nuts. Immersive mode (expanded desktop) relieves the problem for me.
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No no no. A lot of people are looking at this issue in an inverted way. Literally everything except the navigation bar and notification bar is burnt. With OLED black=off.
When looking at the grey image, the navigation bar stands out because it's not burnt. The buttons on the nav bar are burnt, and if you check, they will match the top 95% of the screen.
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Good point. One that's perfectly obvious now that you mention it. The good side to that is that making the navbar dynamic should alleviate that issue. I've always preferred a dynamic navbar, and like you said, a dynamic navbar would cause the navbar to burn equally with the rest of the screen, thereby making the whole issue null and void. Burn navbar burn!
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Right, I am saying the nav bar isn't burnt. I am seeing alot of people blaming the nav bar for the screen burn-ins when it's the opposite.
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While that is correct, the navbar still is the problem. People wouldn't be complaining if the screen was degrading at a uniform rate.
I had the galaxy nexus. Man, that phone had some burn in... Same with the Samsung s3. My nexus 6 has burn in. For a long time I was trying to run inverse mode with just the navbar active to try to wear the pixels at a more uniform rate. That seemed to help though I stopped doing it long ago. That being said, my wife's note 8 isn't seeing any burn in after a month. Now, I am sure it will come eventually, but a week seems really quick.
I had a 6P for 2 years (on eBay sale now if interested) and saw no burn in. My Pixel 2XL is a few days old, and I don't see any burn in either. I keep my phone at 50% brightness, because anything above sgives me eye strain. Maybe that is a contributing factor to those getting burn in.
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I had a 6P for 2 years (on eBay sale now if interested) and saw no burn in. My Pixel 2XL is a few days old, and I don't see any burn in either. I keep my phone at 50% brightness, because anything above sgives me eye strain. Maybe that is a contributing factor to those getting burn in.
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Beyond brightness, doing anything special? Immersive mode? I think the culprit on my pixel is Waze. Hours on end. I don't think everyday use like Facebook YouTube etc will impact my device as much.
I guess my eyesight must really blow because I don't see any burn-in/discoloration on the 2 XL that I've had for 5 days or on the Nexus 6 that I've had for over 2 years. No sense changing my prescription now.
I don't really notice burn-in but image retention. When I bring up the full-screen grey image i still see the navbar but it slowly goes away. Just to be safe for now, I downloaded navbar app from the play store. I changed my navbar to be white in mostly white apps like chrome or facebook. Makes it harder to see the nav buttons that are also white/shadow, but I know where they are.
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I don't really notice burn-in but image retention. When I bring up the full-screen grey image i still see the navbar but it slowly goes away. Just to be safe for now, I downloaded navbar app from the play store. I changed my navbar to be white in mostly white apps like chrome or facebook. Makes it harder to see the nav buttons that are also white/shadow, but I know where they are.
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I'm debating between navbar app or immersive mode. Always on navbar is certainly more convenient
And another review on burngate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbLqBpDWLzc
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.damianpiwowarski.navbarapps&hl=en Best app ever for OLED displays :d.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.damianpiwowarski.navbarapps&hl=en Best app ever for OLED displays :d.
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Do you think that's at least equal to immersive mode? It's definitely a lot more convenient
Do you think Google is going to subtle improving quality control on the Pixel 2's, specifically the 2 XL?
I have a 2 XL that I received on the 20th. Overall the phone is great, but I do have the off axis color shift. I see some that barely show a color shift and others that show a more pronounced shift. I'm debating sending the unit back and waiting a couple of months before checking it out again.
Do you think phones in a couple of months will have less off axis color shift?
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Rick
The color shift is the polarizing lens applied to the scree. Other phones do it too.
Google says this color shift is inherent in the P-OLED implementation. They might try to lessen the effect with a software update but it's a feature that probably won't go away.
It doesn't even bother me... I think half the sky is falling reports, are coming from Apple fans trying to do damage control because iPhone 8 sales were lackluster...
I think you know the answer to your question: NO ONE KNOWS
There are multiple levels of color shift. Some are ok and some are horrible, such as mine phone. Hence the QC question. Alot of these phones are abnormal, so saying it's normal is not legit, alot of fluctuating between phones
The question is if someone has returned their phone with excessive blue shift and got a new one that's acceptable. I wonder if there really is a large difference between phones or is it just based upon individual perception, or what
The simple fix is that if you are trying to write an email or watch a movie at a 45 degree angle from the screen... Tilt the screen towards you. Problem solved!
My phone is awesome in all regards.
Samsung best remember googles android( Samsung has been trolling Google) put them on the top of the smartphone business.
Along with over-saturated screens and the android play store.
Now im seeing articles online about a Pixel XL 2 recall seriously,its not that bad.
I have a slight bluish tint but not enough to return this wonderful device.
Im really wondering what is the endgame here,does google keep lg as a screen partner? Highly unlikely at this point to many headaches.
This really is the best smartphone i have ever used until the Pixel XL 3 is released lol.
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The question is if someone has returned their phone with excessive blue shift and got a new one that's acceptable. I wonder if there really is a large difference between phones or is it just based upon individual perception, or what
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I thought it had to just be differences in perception, but then I saw this video...
Exactly what I was thinking.
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I thought it had to just be differences in perception, but then I saw this video...
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It's called "night light" in display settings. That's what this video looks like someone did to one of them.
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It's called "night light" in display settings. That's what this video looks like someone did to one of them.
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Nightlight would have given it a reddish orange hue. At least it does on mine.
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Nightlight would have given it a reddish orange hue. At least it does on mine.
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That's exactly how one of them looks like in that video.
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That's exactly how one of them looks like in that video.
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I don't agree at all. Nightlight looks like this, which is nothing like the video.
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I don't agree at all. Nightlight looks like this, which is nothing like the video.
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That's because it can be adjusted and it also depends on what camera they used
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That's because it can be adjusted and it also depends on what camera they used
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Do you believe the earth is flat too?
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That's because it can be adjusted and it also depends on what camera they used
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Here's a couple more at various settings. Still looks nothing like the video.
I've read on a few sites that the blue shift is from the circular polarization filter over the OLED screen. I would GLADLY give up the circular polarization filter to have a PURE WHITE SCREEN AT ALL ANGLES.
My Nexus 5X the screen would be black in portrait while wearing my polarized prescription glasses. It was no big deal to see the screen though.
1. Lift my sunglasses
- OR -
2. Turn the phone to landscape
Designers dwell on small problems only to create larger ones. What they should do is not apply the filter layer to the screen, but add it to a glass screen protector. They could sell "clear" or a "depolarized" version
Then everyone's happy.
I find it really hard to gauge where my screen falls in the blueness scale when comparing to pictures people have posted online and in threads.
I wish there was any easier way to tell.
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I'm either going to buy the Pixel 2 or the Pixel 2 XL. Is the display on the XL really that bad? Should I stick with the Pixel 2, or is the issues with the XL over hyped. Those that have this phone, give me all the reasons to , or not buy this phone.
Display is just fine, and if you end up having problems Google has been RMAing them. I had burn in on my last one and no questions asked when I sent the picture of it they had one sent. Once they added the different color modes ( I Still use natural as Saturated looks horrible IMO) I think it fixed a lot of peoples "problems" with it. Yea there is blue shift but you only really notice it on a white screen when you turn the phone. Rarely am I using it on everyday use and be like "damn I really hate this blue" Go get it, try it for the 14 days or whatever the return period is and if you dont like the screen go ahead and return it for the little one. I dont think you can go wrong with either though.
Gilley said:
Display is just fine, and if you end up having problems Google has been RMAing them. I had burn in on my last one and no questions asked when I sent the picture of it they had one sent. Once they added the different color modes ( I Still use natural as Saturated looks horrible IMO) I think it fixed a lot of peoples "problems" with it. Yea there is blue shift but you only really notice it on a white screen when you turn the phone. Rarely am I using it on everyday use and be like "damn I really hate this blue" Go get it, try it for the 14 days or whatever the return period is and if you dont like the screen go ahead and return it for the little one. I dont think you can go wrong with either though.
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I can live with blue tint. I don't look at my phone from odd angles, so I could care less. I'm more concerned with the burn in, and image retention. I'm coming from a OG Pixel, and I don't have any issues with it at all.
jmartin72 said:
I can live with blue tint. I don't look at my phone from odd angles, so I could care less. I'm more concerned with the burn in, and image retention. I'm coming from a OG Pixel, and I don't have any issues with it at all.
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Yea I mean is it the best display out? No. I grab my wife's iPhone X and I really see how inferior it is to that. But is it a bad display? No. I think it's just luck of the draw on if you get one that is gonna burn in or not. The one I had did it in 4 days. This one I've had for 2 weeks and nothing yet. But like I said. Google seemed really good about returning it when I did say that it had it and just had to take pictures to prove it. Next email was the link to put the "purchase" on new one until they received old one back. If the smaller pixel didn't have the bezels I would have went with that because after using an s8 just for the couple months from when I had my OG pixel to this one I kinda grew on the size with a big screen. Like I said, go pick one up and just try it out. You will love it either way
jmartin72 said:
I can live with blue tint. I don't look at my phone from odd angles, so I could care less. I'm more concerned with the burn in, and image retention. I'm coming from a OG Pixel, and I don't have any issues with it at all.
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Both the Pixel 2 and the 2 XL have burn in although the 2 XL is worse. You'll probably notice your Pixel 1 has it to if you look closely enough at grey backgrounds full screen.
The Pixel XL 2 screen in my book is a lot nicer than the 2 even with the burn in. It's got much nicer whites (a little bluer) than the slightly red Shamsung one in the pixel 2 and you hardly notice the burn once you realise the phone is just THAT good.
Jonathan-H said:
Both the Pixel 2 and the 2 XL have burn in although the 2 XL is worse. You'll probably notice your Pixel 1 has it to if you look closely enough at grey backgrounds full screen.
The Pixel XL 2 screen in my book is a lot nicer than the 2 even with the burn in. It's got much nicer whites (a little bluer) than the slightly red Shamsung one in the pixel 2 and you hardly notice the burn once you realise the phone is just THAT good.
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My OG Pixel doesn't have any burn in at all.
I think the screen problem would only be an issue if you are OCD. If you try to find faults and stress about it you will end up hating the device. However if you ignore the screen problem and make the most of the device then you will absolutely love it
display is great IMO
blue shift is the only issue i can actually reproduce, and the ridiculous angle at which it occurs means i literally never experience it during normal use
I personally love the screen. For me it's better than original Pixel. But must say that i wasn't very happy until i rooted and tuned it a bit.
Out of box the screen was too dark for my likings. I'm not talking about the brightness level. What i mean is that darks are very aggressive in most cases.
However, i wouldn't go back to the original Pixel.
Black smear is the only thing I've ever noticed that's meh to me but it was there on other OLED displays I've used too. IMO...shiz on the display was overblown.
AndrasLOHF said:
Black smear is the only thing I've ever noticed that's meh to me but it was there on other OLED displays I've used too. IMO...shiz on the display was overblown.
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Smearing is way worse on the 2XL I have than I had on any of the phones in my sig. Love OLEDs for a long time, but the smearing is something that I notice that I'm hoping an update will address.
Other than that, the display has been fine for me. Blue tint not an issue and no burn in for me.
chriskwarren said:
Smearing is way worse on the 2XL I have than I had on any of the phones in my sig. Love OLEDs for a long time, but the smearing is something that I notice that I'm hoping an update will address.
Other than that, the display has been fine for me. Blue tint not an issue and no burn in for me.
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Google need to tweak the gamma to make it better
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jmartin72 said:
I'm either going to buy the Pixel 2 or the Pixel 2 XL. Is the display on the XL really that bad? Should I stick with the Pixel 2, or is the issues with the XL over hyped. Those that have this phone, give me all the reasons to , or not buy this phone.
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The screen is good. The issues are over hyped. And just so you know I am OCD with my screens and hate any sort of uneven tints etc. It took me 4 oneplus 5t to get one with a reasonably uniform screen. My pixel has a more uniform screen than all 4 of them. I will break down the issues and give. my experience. But keep in mind each unit may differ but if you get one that's as Intended this is what you should experience too
1. Blue tint. This is no issue. You might notice it if you tilt the screen at angles...but during every day use you never notice it, after a few days you forget about it all together
2. graininess. I think they all have this to some degree. But I can only see a tiny bit of grain if I put the phone in low brightness and stare at it unnaturally close to my face. So again never an issue in every day use
3. Black smear/black crush. Yes this is a problem. But you will only notice it at very low brightness, late at night.
This is actually a software issue. So it's nice to know it can be potentially fixed through an update
4. Touch problems. I noticed having to tap things a couple times when I first had it. But since the last update I haven't noticed any touch sensitivity issues at all
I don't think it's even a case of ignore the screen problems and enjoy the phone...the screen is pleasant and the problems simply are not there's unless you get a dud of course
Hope this helps
Screen is just fine. Gorgeous really.
AndrasLOHF said:
Black smear is the only thing I've ever noticed that's meh to me but it was there on other OLED displays I've used too. IMO...shiz on the display was overblown.
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This.
The display is not good...unless you get a good one. QC is extremely inconsistent.
Other than the blue tint (which I don't really care about) mine is great. No complaints and thats coming from an S8 plus and Note FE which both have great screens
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My black XL 2 were terrible with blue tint but the Panda screens have been ok
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AndrasLOHF said:
Black smear is the only thing I've ever noticed that's meh to me but it was there on other OLED displays I've used too. IMO...shiz on the display was overblown.
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I agree on the black smear point. That's really the only real issue I have with the phone but it only happens in low light situations. I was able to work around it by using lux, cflumen, and an app called screen balance. I agree that the whole blue shift thing was blown out of proportion because when are you not looking directly at your phone: perpendicular to your face lol. On the other hand I do understand why people are upset. Lots of money spent therefore expecting perfection.
I have no issues with my display. There's been zero burn in, and I never notice the blue shift. It's definitely there, but it's only at extreme angles and 99.9 percent of the time I'm looking at my screen head on. Now that the saturated color space has been added the screen looks just as good as my boyfriend's note 8.
I've also had issues with black smear, but it's not as much of a problem for me as the black crush. Watching darker videos on low to mid brightness can make it difficult to see the details in a scene.
I got my phone a week ago and haven't noticed any problems with my screen. The blue tint I never noticed because I don't look at it from an angle. The burn in I haven't noticed but will try to keep an eye on it
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