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Can I swap my 002 for 003 if its a bit banged up? (pics link inside)

I have 002 Novatec that I purchased from Radioshack on June 4th at 6am here in Salt Lake City,Utah. My question is, I've banged it up a tad bit and was wondering if I bring it in (unrooted/stock of course) to radioshack and explain to them why I want to be put on the waiting list for a new one (30 fps cap, purple hue,not as bright as 003s) and maybe even show them the comparison picture of the 002 to the 003, and they deny me, do I goto sprint next or call HTC or keep trying?
http://tund.imgur.com/evo

i was under the impression that you could return it w/in 30 days for whatever reason. at least, that's what Dan says in his commercials.

or you could just tell em that you get crappy service inside your house so what's the point of having a phone you can't use at home.

healthpellets said:
i was under the impression that you could return it w/in 30 days for whatever reason. at least, that's what Dan says in his commercials.
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the thing is,.. the screen has 2 minor scratches,kickstand is scratched up a wee bit, the camera lense has a scratch or two but not right in front of the lens just off to the sides, and the corner has a ding, can I return it in that condition? I will post screens soon!
healthpellets said:
or you could just tell em that you get crappy service inside your house so what's the point of having a phone you can't use at home.
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crappy 4g service mind you, but thats what wifi is for

If it been less then 30 days your fine. Even if its been a few days over they can still do it. They might charge a restocking fee, but they can waive it. just be firm when handling those lovely radio shack employees.

Pics: http://tund.imgur.com/evo

Its 30 days if the phone is in perfect shape they have to take it back. If it isn't, like yours, then your taking your chances, you may have to plead/grovel.
Good luck!
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mrono said:
Its 30 days if the phone is in perfect shape they have to take it back. If it isn't, like yours, then your taking your chances, you may have to plead/grovel.
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Hmm so crappy signal inside buildings/home might defeat the fact that my phone is a bit thrashed?

Damn,
Did you drop it into a pile or rocks or something?
Getting paid $8/hour they probably won't care... YMMV

Wayno-san said:
Damn,
Did you drop it into a pile or rocks or something?
Getting paid $8/hour they probably won't care... YMMV
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Dunno, i brought it in couple weeks ago and showed the dude that sold me the phone the scratches on the screen, he was like dunno if we will be able to accept that phone, so I guess im stuck with it,.. which isnt a bad thing for me, just my wallet. So the question now i guess is, can I convince these RS guys to exchange my 002 with an 003 and hope I get an epson screen? I will be going straight to ZAGG HQ here in Salt Lake to have them install thier Invisshield since I'm so clumsy at it, if I do get a new evo.

You're still within 30 days, so even if RadioShack won't take the phone back can't you still cancel your service, or get a cheap dumbphone and change your plan accordingly? You can always sell your Evo on Ebay or something then.
EDIT: since the OP changed his original question, this post is no longer relevant

Probably depends who you talk to and how nice they are. Some Radioshacks will inspect the phone more in-depth than others. Basically you are wanting to exchange a nicked up phone for a new one. "30 fps cap, purple hue,not as bright as 003s" are not really considered defects. Unless you bought the warranty from them that covers wear and tear, then it's gonna be a hit or miss.
edit: I just skimmed your pictures and those are some pretty bad nicks. I thought it was just light surface scratches here and there. Good luck, but I'll be pretty damn surprised if they took that back.

Seriously?

gthing said:
Seriously?
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+10000000
Outside of just not taking care of your equipment your only real reason is from what you have read on the internet. You actually have no legitimate reason to return the phone. You probably never notice any difference until you read about it. It hasn't been proven with enough comparisons which panel is better or brighter. Now some are sticking with the nova panels. Tweaks are being done as well.
Funny you mention a refund due to it being heavy on the wallet yet you would take an 003 with epson if you had a chance.
Please don't post a complaint about how horrible customer service is when they don't fullfil your request.
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I really don't get how people can't take care of their expensive equipment.
If anything, try to go to a Sprint retail store and see if they'll let you swap over or do a dumbphone swap then get on the list for the rev0003. Considering your lack of care for your equipment, your odds are low. It would cost them money to take your phone back since they'd have to replace the screen and camera lens.

mrmomoman said:
Outside of just not taking care of your equipment your only real reason is from what you have read on the internet. You actually have no legitimate reason to return the phone. You probably never notice any difference until you read about it. It hasn't been proven with enough comparisons which panel is better or brighter. Now some are sticking with the nova panels. Tweaks are being done as well.
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Serious? -10000000. The reason I even began searching these forums was for a fix to the sluggish performance. This is not my first android phone. I've had an Incredible with Verizon and borrowed my cousin's N1 for a few days while waiting for the Evo to come out. Now that there is a psuedo fix for the fps issue, a real fix that doesn't break and FC everything is imminent. But a brighter screen with richer truer blacks and no screen seperation? Nobody knew the 003 were brighter with richer blacks untill the screen shot comparison.
I could tell immediately that the EVO had fps issues, the scrolling would glitch out and skip, the app drawer, the overall fluidity felt like something was holding it back, htc. I tried out the fix and man the evo blazes! Can't wait till they perfect it!
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Funny you mention a refund due to it being heavy on the wallet yet you would take an 003 with epson if you had a chance.
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Who Wouldn't? I'm paying for it, I want the best, just like the next guy.
mrmomoman said:
Please don't post a complaint about how horrible customer service is when they don't fullfil your request.
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I will do whatever I please.
cosine83 said:
I really don't get how people can't take care of their expensive equipment.
If anything, try to go to a Sprint retail store and see if they'll let you swap over or do a dumbphone swap then get on the list for the rev0003. Considering your lack of care for your equipment, your odds are low. It would cost them money to take your phone back since they'd have to replace the screen and camera lens.
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At the time of purchase that Radioshack did not have any screen protectors and only a universal smartphone body glove clip on case which is pretty dam useless,added unnecessary bulk to the phone and did not give me access to any of the buttons. It was just a holding case.
There were no limited edition Seidio Innocase Active Cases. Though I agree I am partly to blame for not babying it until suitable protection was available, one of the first threads I read was about how the phone had Gorilla Glass which seems like bs due to how easy it is to scratch the screen. =\

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My dad can beat your dad, wanna fight about it? Meet @ Radioshack next to the Subway in Taylorsville. I shall have made a makeshift sword for my evo and we shall have a battle to the death in front of RS employees. LOL

thats pretty banged up within 30 days haha

My one year old just accidentally drop tested the lumia 800

And before you ask, yes, my one year old has a wp7 device and can use it to some extent. He dropped it off of the balcony at a hotel we're at and it landed flat on the concrete below missing the pool by mere inches. Thusfar, I see no scratches on the device and the only discernible fault from a second story fall is a looser power button that is still perfectly functional. I was scared to drop test mine, so it's cool to know it can take a beating.

Sounds like its fairly durable. Thats good. Wonder how it would have fared had it gone into the pool.........I SAID, I wonder how it would have fared had it gone into the pool

Won't be testing that... Not on purpose anyway.

z33dev33l said:
And before you ask, yes, my one year old has a wp7 device and can use it to some extent. He dropped it off of the balcony at a hotel we're at and it landed flat on the concrete below missing the pool by mere inches. Thusfar, I see no scratches on the device and the only discernible fault from a second story fall is a looser power button that is still perfectly functional. I was scared to drop test mine, so it's cool to know it can take a beating.
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Thats pretty good, probably fared off much better than if the 1 year old being drop tested from the same place.

that's great, +1 for nokia

1 year old owning expensive cell phone
1 year old playing on balcony
wtf is this world coming to

how did he manage to toss something from two stories up, without you stopping him ?
more importantly, how did you manage to see how it landed if you weren't close enough to prevent the toss ?
i don't care what you let your kids play with, expense is relative. today's $800 phone is tomorrows paperweight with them being released so fast. our kids play with iPhones and G1's all the time.
or the G4 laptop hooked up to a 20" mac monitor in the other room. a few years ago that was $3 large. today, it's a craiglist hard to sell item !

Balcony has 4 ft railing, it's safe. I was out there on it too and just couldn't stop it. He was watching some kids movie, and it fell out of his hands. Not so much a toss.

Zee, you're a liar. Pics or it didn't happen.

Lol I've never found any of his posts questionable, he doesn't seem like the type of user who would post for dramatic effect like some of these troll posts. I do want pictures though just to see how the power button looks. The thread title makes it all worth it though.

Damn the wait from leaving the room and going outside would have finished me...

^ pics or it didn't happen. He saws he has all these devices and never post a pic. He asked us what pics we want in another thread, and he never provided them. He's full of it.
It takes 10 seconds to snap and post a pic. So stop spamming the board with bogus claims. Pics or it didn't happen.

lol and the thread takes a turn for the interesting...

vetvito said:
^ pics or it didn't happen. He saws he has all these devices and never post a pic. He asked us what pics we want in another thread, and he never provided them. He's full of it.
It takes 10 seconds to snap and post a pic. So stop spamming the board with bogus claims. Pics or it didn't happen.
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I've bought like 15 devices in the past 2 years, I'm not saying whether he does or doesn't have the devices, but it isn't out of the ordinary if he does. A lot of developers, Schapman for one, post some crazy things and you guys don't ask for pictures lol. Give him a break dude. I've never understood the whole "pics or it didn't happen" theory. It's a forum, whether he does or doesn't makes no difference, his post is positive and doesn't hurt anybody.

I only have a titan, a dvp, and a lumia 800 on me. No computer atm, does board express allow you to upload pictures to the forum? If so I'll go buy it.
Either that or I could email the pictures. I'd upload them but I dont even know what uploaded to use. Pic uploading isn't an integral part of my life.

Use imgur its in the market. Any pic Zee.

http://i.imgur.com/wSb0s.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sw1JJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f7zMN.jpg (someone asked about the Asian language packs the other day)
http://i.imgur.com/u30BP.jpg (the one year old)
I tried in the second pic to get an image of the looseness of the button, but it's fairly flush with the side so that's a challenge.

vetvito said:
Use imgur its in the market. Any pic Zee.
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z33dev33l said:
http://i.imgur.com/wSb0s.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sw1JJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f7zMN.jpg (someone asked about the Asian language packs the other day)
http://i.imgur.com/u30BP.jpg (the one year old)
I tried in the second pic to get an image of the looseness of the button, but it's fairly flush with the side so that's a challenge.
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Yep. Good job vetvito -.-

z33dev33l said:
http://i.imgur.com/u30BP.jpg (the one year old)
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Congratulations. Very cute.

FiyaFleye said:
Yep. Good job vetvito -.-
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I shall shut up.

first fall to ground, the phone can't power on, bad quality LG

my phone (with a spigen hard case) fall to ground first time, the screen is fine, but I can't power on it anymore...
sent it to LG service, said need 3 days to check what's wrong..
my Nexus 5 fall to ground many times, and working well. and Nexus 5x just one... LG quality now is really bad.

Well, LG might say that user handling of devices nowadays it's very bad.

Hard cases suck for drops. They accept the drop instead of deflecting it like softer ones do. Just my opinion, buy a better case

hopesrequiem said:
Hard cases suck for drops. They accept the drop instead of deflecting it like softer ones do. Just my opinion, buy a better case
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my nexus 5 use spigen hard case too, it fall to ground many time when my son play it... but still working

ourfear said:
my nexus 5 use spigen hard case too, it fall to ground many time when my son play it... but still working
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You don't think anyone dropped their Nexus 5 and it broke too? It's just luck if it breaks or not, as with any phone in a drop.
My 5x fell onto tiled floor with no case or screen protector. Barely even a scuff on two of the corners. Good job LG!
BTW you shouldn't expect a case to help in a drop when it's not designed to help in a drop, isn't advertised to help in a drop, nor was it ever publicly tested in drop tests.
If a case doesn't have these things then it is for scratch protection, minor bumps, and aesthetics only. Don't be fooled by empty marketing promises. It's easy for any case or SP to type some words on their JPEGs "super resilient, shock and explosion proof, 9H hardness" but that doesn't mean it's true or was ever actually tested. They just want your money.

Couldn't the thread have been titled, "First unlucky drop and no power.." or something like that. Ya just gotta throw in the dig of "bad quality LG" as if it's their fault you dropped the phone. I just don't get all these threads that don't really ask questions so much as to get eyeballs on a negative depiction of a very capable phone. And I'm just as guilty, I read this crap.

Me too Bobby. I keep feeding the trolls. I can't help it. I feel bad for them.

Thing is it was happening in the 6P threads too. I had one for about a week until I realized it was just too large a device for me and I was definitely going to drop and break it due to the size and slippery back. "Super lag on the 6P", "awful camera", speakers terrible" things like that just the same as here. Some of them just Sammy fans and some iPhone heads but they came out of the woodwork. And same here, "5X-Hugely disappointed" over 45k views. I mean who goes on just to post something like that instead of taking the time to return the device and research another one? It just makes me wonder motivation.
Back on topic, I dropped my phone once and not a scratch. It was on the carpet, does that count?

The only thing lacking quality in this situation is your grip.

Mine survived a 4 foot drop to concrete.
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bobby janow said:
I just don't get all these threads that don't really ask questions so much as to get eyeballs on a negative depiction of a very capable phone. And I'm just as guilty, I read this crap.
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Me too Bobby. I keep feeding the trolls. I can't help it.
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Some of them just Sammy fans and some iPhone heads but they came out of the woodwork. And same here, "5X-Hugely disappointed" over 45k views. I mean who goes on just to post something like that instead of taking the time to return the device and research another one? It just makes me wonder motivation.
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Me three.
I have to say -- I always try to assume the best in terms of motivation, and just chalk up someone's different experience to use case, app selection, etc. But my 5X is so fast, and multitasks so well, that I have to question motivation as well.

today LG called me ... said the mainboard damaged....
change a new mainboard is expensive, so I 'd better to buy a new one

ourfear said:
today LG called me ... said the mainboard damaged....
change a new mainboard is expensive, so I 'd better to buy a new one
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That, I'm sorry to hear. Somehow in this day and age they can make a phone almost indestructible. At least from a toilet drop and 5 feet onto cement.

my 5 fell into the grand canyon, I wonder if the screen broke. still rang but no one answered. sad. love my new 5X

How could this happen? Gorilla Glass 5 defamed by a single careless man!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOz4Kf5AL7Q
So the gist of it is this. He sharpened his hardness picks, and particles from from the sharpening tool got embedded into the picks. So all if his picks were hardness 8. So every single pick scratched Note 7, hardness 3-8.
When he got brand new picks, only 6 and up were able to scratch Note 7. Which is in line with other Gorilla Glasses.
So Gorilla Glass is not garbage.
How could this happen?

It was believed by those who chose to believe it. He did apologize and correct his error for what that was worth. We move on.

well, he apologized after the damage was done, apology or no apology, the result was the same, he was the first to damage the note 7 image

I don't think it matters now.
All Note 7s are on their way back
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BozQ said:
I don't think it matters now.
All Note 7s are on their way back
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You made me laugh. Well done! Gosh, this phone is gonna be so HOT in a few months.

I was ready to believe Gorilla Glass 5 is prone to scratches because Samsung did boast that it's shatter proof, or shatter resistant. That was the drawback.
I think Jerry and Corning discussed about it after his tests and that's how he came to realise that his picks were contaminated from sharpening.
But he took responsibility for it. Unfortunately, by the time he released the second correction video, we were all in the midst of the first recall/exchange programme. And very soon after that, Samsung discontinued the Note 7.
The quality of the Gorilla Glass 5, along with other high class features of the Note 7 was no longer relevant now.
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Only a handful of gullible people ever trusted an uncontrolled, uncalibrated "test" conducted by an untrained, unqualified random guy on the Internet.
Such people tend to be overrepresented on this forum, however, giving the false impression that the report was widely believed.

Forget the glass. I like to know who the knuckle head who manage to overheat his Replacement Note 7 on the Southwest Flight is ?
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CerveCesar said:
Forget the glass. I['d] like to know who the knuckle head who manage[d] to overheat his Replacement Note 7 on the Southwest Flight is[.]
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Huh? His name and background are mentioned in every serious newspaper article that reported the incident. But the phone was turned off and in his pocket when it caught fire. How can you conclude that he was at fault?

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Huh? His name and background are mentioned in every serious newspaper article that reported the incident. But the phone was turned off and in his pocket when it caught fire. How can you conclude that he was at fault?
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Thats not what I heard. I hear some dude was playing video games while waiting for his flight and had the phone charging. After they got in the plane he went to turn it off and it caught fire.
When you turn a phone on or off it heats up quickly as well as when you charge it or play video games in a well light place such as an airport and your screen happens to be a little brighter. Or all those 3 in a deadly combination for that matter.
Now, I'm sure its easy for You who probably does not own a Note 7 to come and critize a crazy comment. But you have no idea what the owners of the Note 7 have gone through in order to return, exchange or hold on to their devices
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CerveCesar said:
Thats not what I heard. I hear some dude was playing video games while waiting for his flight and had the phone charging. After they got in the plane he went to turn it off and it caught fire.
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Uh, you "heard" it from whom? Did you happen to "hear" any evidence that it was true? And by the way, even if it was, that would be a perfectly reasonable way to use the phone. The instructions never suggest otherwise, and the phone itself could easily have been designed to prevent that usage, but was not because there should be no reason to.
But you have no idea what the owners of the Note 7 have gone through in order to return, exchange or hold on to their devices.
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Uh, I owned and exchanged both an original Note 7 and a replacement Note 7. You seem to have a habit of just making things up and saying them without knowing or caring whether they're true.

the whole point of the throttling and disabling of charging and CPU when under the types of condition of playing games while charging (quite a few phones will stop charging) should be in place and should be capable of taking that type of use as it is well known this is a common way people use the phone, if the phone failed because of someone using it in a quite common way the phone is still at fault not the user who would assume that the phone had the same capability as any other device.

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Thats not what I heard. I hear some dude was playing video games while waiting for his flight and had the phone charging. After they got in the plane he went to turn it off and it caught fire.
When you turn a phone on or off it heats up quickly as well as when you charge it or play video games in a well light place such as an airport and your screen happens to be a little brighter. Or all those 3 in a deadly combination for that matter.
Now, I'm sure its easy for You who probably does not own a Note 7 to come and critize a crazy comment. But you have no idea what the owners of the Note 7 have gone through in order to return, exchange or hold on to their devices
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Dude, when I buy a smart phone of this standard (Note 7), i will expect to be able to do all those you've mentioned without it overheating.

XanaviGTR said:
Dude, when I buy a smart phone of this standard (Note 7), i will expect to be able to do all those you've mentioned without it overheating.
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Agreed. I've been very defensive about the whole Note7 saga, but my beef is that people who have bought the phone in good faith should be able to decide for themselves whether the slightly elevated risk of using it (compared to other phones) is a risk they PERSONALLY wish to accept. It's not for Samsung or anyone else to decide for them.
But I have never argued that there is nothing wrong with the Note7 design or manufacturing. Clearly there is, and you would not expect a properly designed and manufactured phones to be overheating in the circumstances described above.

On the GG, if you ever see one person defying the industry and standing on a soap box screaming something that flies in the face of reason, alone, without scientific proof in the future......ignore him. Zack is good but he is not THAT good.

Zerolemon has a 8500mah battery case for htc 10 but not avaliable

Does anyone know when it will be released http://zerolemon.com/product/htc-10...on-compatible-with-all-htc-10-variants-black/

ROFL... I think I'll pass. That thing is hideous... I'd rather carry around a brick-sized battery pack than put that on my phone. In fact, that's all it essentially is... A battery pack and phone held together with a silicone protector. NO THANK YOU.

Nice, I would buy that right away, no mention of a price point at this time?
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I just got some news from zerolemon they said it will get released end of November or early December

What's up with that knob on the bottom?
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What's up with that knob on the bottom?
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i think its a cord that plugs into phone to use battery case which makes it more bulky

Absolutely hideous...

I bought aukey 30000 woth quick charge 3.0, doing well and faster than my original charger.

End of January they said.

Haldi4803 said:
End of January they said.
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Thanks for the heads up! I was wondering if these types of cases are available for the HTC 10...I will keep my eyes on this thread.

Why does that phone have an erection?

It has been released

Meowdib said:
Why does that phone have an erection?
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It's already been answered dude, or are you just trying to make a joke?
That is where the connection is made from battery to phone charging port.

It's available now on Amazon

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It's already been answered dude, or are you just trying to make a joke?
That is where the connection is made from battery to phone charging port.
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It's just ridiculous that they have that at all. They could have shaved off 500mAh of the battery or just made it a bit thicker so it would be flat on the bottom and not look like that. I mean. I'm interested in a gigantic battery pack being strapped to the back of my phone. I'm not terribly concerned about looks, but it looks like the phone is hanging dong there. Hard pass.
I've gotten ZeroLemons for several other devices, going all the way back to the Note 2. I've never seen a case design like this from them before. It's insane that someone let it off the production line like that.

Just received this case today, not much taller than my Nexus 6P even with the "Dong" on the bottom.

Power bank > this hideous thing. That truncated triangular thing at the bottom makes it look even more ridiculous.

got a PM from Zerolemon a while back....
Turns out, they don't like it if you talk about their product without enthusiasm.... Never heard from them again
Haldi4803 said:
ZEROLEMON_OFFICIAL said:
Hello,would you like to review our HTC 10 battery case? We are ZeroLemon and this is the product: http://zerolemon.com/product/htc-10...on-compatible-with-all-htc-10-variants-black/
We are going to release this product by the end of Jan in 2017. If you would like to review it,we can send you a free sample.
Thanks.
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Holy mother of........
If you make them Orange you could build a house with enough of these!
But 8500mAh is quite a lot, are they intended for GPS navigation during the 24h of le Mans?
Still, seems like an interesting piece of technology and could come in handy in some situations.
What is your definition of "review" ?
Greetings,
Haldi
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Haldi4803 said:
got a PM from Zerolemon a while back....
Turns out, they don't like it if you talk about their product without enthusiasm.... Never heard from them again
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Hehe, I reserved my opinions until I received the discount code.. I guess it was the right move!
Sorry to hear they went silent on you. Did you ever give them your e-mail? I had lost contact with them, wondering if they'd PM me the code, and I recently got an e-mail. Perhaps they sent you one and it got lost in spam or something? If not, then very un-cool on their part. They also told me it would be "free sample". However, they sent me a 90% off discount code.

Never sent them my email, this was the only conversation we had.
I can understand the 90% off... They still need to pay shipping and stuff...