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Damn pocket issue !!!

I've seen plenty of people comment about how when a text message is received in your pocket, the screen never goes back to sleep. The reason for this thread is to discuss the reasoning for it. I have heard plenty of people saying to just disable the 'screen on' feature but that is no solution to me. It's a bandaid.
Personally I find the screen on feature to be very useful. I can have the phone sitting on my desk and when an sms comes through, I can glance down and get a preview of the message before it locks back up. That way I can see if it's worth addressing at the moment or not. I came from the skyrocket which also had the feature, but without the pocket bug. Half the time I receive a message in my pocket, the screen never locks back up and it sounds like a damn rainstorm in my pocket.
I was under the impression that the screen only registered a 'touch' when something conductive touched it. My pants pocket isn't made from special conductive fabric. Now the only thing I can think of is that because the glass is facing inwards, my leg is causing the problem THROUGH my pocket. It acts like it is too sensitive.
Thoughts?

weaselnoze said:
I've seen plenty of people comment about how when a text message is received in your pocket, the screen never goes back to sleep. The reason for this thread is to discuss the reasoning for it. I have heard plenty of people saying to just disable the 'screen on' feature but that is no solution to me. It's a bandaid.
Personally I find the screen on feature to be very useful. I can have the phone sitting on my desk and when an sms comes through, I can glance down and get a preview of the message before it locks back up. That way I can see if it's worth addressing at the moment or not. I came from the skyrocket which also had the feature, but without the pocket bug. Half the time I receive a message in my pocket, the screen never locks back up and it sounds like a damn rainstorm in my pocket.
I was under the impression that the screen only registered a 'touch' when something conductive touched it. My pants pocket isn't made from special conductive fabric. Now the only thing I can think of is that because the glass is facing inwards, my leg is causing the problem THROUGH my pocket. It acts like it is too sensitive.
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Um... Face the phone screen outwards?? or use a belt holster (vertical or horizontal)???
lol
I had some issues when I get my phone... I cannot seem to fit this massive phone in my jean pocket, so I used the belt holster I had for my S2 Skyrocket, and no issues so far...

Just drop the stock messaging and move to Handcent. I have it set to where the text message will not turn on the screen, just vibrate and sound.

as I had mentioned in the OP, i found value in the 'screen on' feature and didn't wish to put a bandaid on it (face outwards, holster, handcent etc...) I know i can turn the feature off with a third party app. in fact i used go sms which has the ability to disable that feature, but i USE that feature and i don't want to sacrifice it. why did the skyrocket, and other phones work just fine?

Never had this issue. I also never used the stock messaging app on the stock rom as I flashed custom within an hour of owning the phone. Maybe try a different messaging app?

it happens with both the stock messaging app as well as any third party app. essentially any app at all that wakes the screen up. being that you've never had this problem with a custom rom, it could be software related with the stock rom.

Possibly. Don't know if you're rooted or not but may want to try one of the roms that are stock like if you like the stock rom the phone came with.

mms6 said:
I had some issues when I get my phone... I cannot seem to fit this massive phone in my jean pocket, so I used the belt holster I had for my S2 Skyrocket, and no issues so far...
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This fix is actually really easy, stop wearing skinny jeans.
On a serious note, I haven't had this issue yet but it is annoying when plugging in or unplugging that the screen seems to stay on until you hit the power button again.
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i am on the stock rom and have never had that issue, and i receive many messages per day. i was using the stock kernel for a few weeks and for the last week or two i have been using a custom kernel, but neither one ever had that issue. my screen does light up when i receive a sms message but it always turns back off quickly. i would guess maybe there is an app on your phone causing an issue?

Jirv311 said:
This fix is actually really easy, stop wearing skinny jeans.
On a serious note, I haven't had this issue yet but it is annoying when plugging in or unplugging that the screen seems to stay on until you hit the power button again.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda premium
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hahahaha best solution thus far

weaselnoze said:
as I had mentioned in the OP, i found value in the 'screen on' feature and didn't wish to put a bandaid on it (face outwards, holster, handcent etc...) I know i can turn the feature off with a third party app. in fact i used go sms which has the ability to disable that feature, but i USE that feature and i don't want to sacrifice it. why did the skyrocket, and other phones work just fine?
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... more sensitive screen? Different pants? i don't know. What i do know, though, is that the mms6 was not trying to be a smarta** with his comment. If the pants/shorts/etc... that you're wearing have thin material making up the pockets, and your phone is facing your thigh... do you really think there's no chance of the capacitive screen picking up the touch from your thigh? Hell, one pair of shorts that i have were quite interesting. With my Motorola Atrix 4G, even with the screen facing away from me, i was able to vaguely make out what was on the screen, and was able to unlock the phone THROUGH both the pocket material as well as the material the shorts were made out of.
So uuh... yea... i really don't see how having the screen facing outwards is a "band-aid"... unless you think that we shouldn't use screen gestures to unlock our phones...

Case for Power/Wake IR button

I find it very difficult to wake the phone with the power/wake button. Just the angle of the bezel and how flush the IR button is makes it much more of a chore compared to any other phone I've used. Does anyone know of a case that can remedy the situation? I don't care if it covers the IR.

I bought the poetic case off amazon (3rd revision) and it doesn't help with the flush power button issue. Since no one responded I'll keep updating as I get more cases. Sad.
I don't know how tough it is to remove the old poetic case (since everyone seem to gush about how difficult it is) but I don't find it very hard. Simply pry open one corner then expand the gap and it pops off pretty easily. I much rather have a tight case than a lose one *wink*
Currently waiting on basal case. Don't know if I should just exchange then phone because of the recessed button.

I came across this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/for-HTC-One-...hone_PDA_Cases&var&hash=item5d3d09adf1&_uhb=1
I think i might buy this one

isinisterx said:
I came across this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/for-HTC-One-...hone_PDA_Cases&var&hash=item5d3d09adf1&_uhb=1
I think i might buy this one
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I have one for my One S, and honestly it's junk. Its hard to put in your pocket because its grippy, and it collects lint constantly.
The rubber inside feels cheap, and loose around the sides where there is no support.
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Well thanks for that lool

Here is my remedy for the power button and its awkward position. Never use it. Find a kernel with swipe to wake and then I use a sleep widget on the home screen to sleep. I double tap the bottom of the screen to wake it up. Works perfectly

I got the urban armor gear one off of ebay
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Yep the basal case sucks too. I actually flashed cyanogenmod nightlys and use the swipe to unlock feature. Got to swipe all the captivate buttons kinda like iPhone. Unfortunately there is a slight lag but that'll probably get cleared up when more stable releases are out.

xxquicksh0txx said:
I have one for my One S, and honestly it's junk. Its hard to put in your pocket because its grippy, and it collects lint constantly.
The rubber inside feels cheap, and loose around the sides where there is no support.
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That's because it is made of silicone. That's one material I hate... yes, even in the other way.
fffssslll said:
Yep the basal case sucks too. I actually flashed cyanogenmod nightlys and use the swipe to unlock feature. Got to swipe all the captivate buttons kinda like iPhone. Unfortunately there is a slight lag but that'll probably get cleared up when more stable releases are out.
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Hmmm... for the time I'm running CM 10.1, I'm using volume wake and hold menu to lock. I'm sure it saves battery life because the capacitive panel is off when asleep. Plus when I had S2W enabled, it seemed that I could never get it right the first time.

Agreed, I too also had this case on my one s and it's really crappy and too loose in the areas where the hard plastic doesn't wrap the case
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The urban armor gear makes the volume button so much better than without it, though the wake button stays the same maybe even abit worse..

[IME][DISKUSSION] HTC U12+ - First Pre-Briefing Impression / Hands-On experience

Hallo everybody,
as I've been on one of then get a new Pre-Briefing sessionsnI had the chance to get a first Hands-On impression of the all new HTC U12+. This I decided to share it with you and allow for questions regarding the device. I'm well willing to answer them as good as possible. To get the following right, I'm competing the U12+ to my current device, which is the U11.
HTC simply makes everything better with the new flagship! You only have to hold it in your hands once, and you won't want to put it away, let alone miss it. I'm just saying "A phone that is more than the sum of its specs!" A dreamlike piece of technology! The best in advance in my eyes:
The device has no notch!
The metal frame that connects the front and back immediately gave me nostalgic memories of the HTC One M9 - especially the 0.5 mm small edge that extends around the front of the device and the U12+ (if you publish it before, then of course replace it with product!) a very good and great grip.
Also the separate Volume-Up/Down buttons remind me of the HTC One M9, which is one of the big special features of the HTC U12+, because the buttons are no longer mechanical buttons, but only digital! And not only here, but also at Edge Sense there are great developments!
Previously "only" the short and long press on Edge Sense, now Double Tap is added to the frame. A gesture that many people wished for as the next step in their development - me too!
In addition, Edge Sense 2.0 becomes smarter! Let's take the Edge Launcher as an example. Here Edge Sense recognizes on which side of the device I execute the double tap, and shows it on this side as well. HTC realizes an automated right/left-handed control, which I find extremely brilliant - brilliant U just .
Also ingenious: the HTC U12+ recognizes that you are holding it in your hand and locks the screen's autorotation if desired. Practical for me as a frequent flyer, because you won't believe how often the screen rotates when scanning the QR code on the online ticket, and the code is therefore not recognized. Others like to stall their smartphone on the train to show you a short YouTube video, and are annoyed when the video is minimized due to the screen rotation. Such annoyances are also a thing of the past with the HTC U12+.
Perhaps a few words about the technique. HTC sets the battery to 3500 mAh, with a nominal power of 3420mAh. Thanks to the economical Snapdragon 845 SoC, again manufactured in 10 nm technology, which is probably even more modest than its predecessor, it should certainly meet the daily energy requirements. This is also shown by the HTC U11, which with an insignificantly smaller display and 3000 mAh also brings a power user like me well through the day.
I have a clear one: I must have! (*and already pre-ordered the Translucent Blue Edition)
Why, you ask?! It's simple: it's - in my opinion - technically once again the best high-end smartphone of the year currently on the market, and features some great innovations and technological advances that make the purchase extraordinarily worthwhile. These include innovations in the area of Edge Sense 2.0, a profound integration of voice and Google functionalities - also in own apps - such as the camera and the new integration of Amazon Alexa.

Any idea how you'd power off the device if the system freezes? Normally I'd hold down the power button or remove the battery, but there's technically no power BUTTON and obviously no removable battery. How do you reboot the phone if the "hardware keys" don't respond?

Icculus760 said:
Any idea how you'd power off the device if the system freezes? Normally I'd hold down the power button or remove the battery, but there's technically no power BUTTON and obviously no removable battery. How do you reboot the phone if the "hardware keys" don't respond?
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It's a touch sensitive button that translates commands just like a mechanical button would translate such commands within the U11. As a matter of fact it is pressure sensitive in order to make possible it always reacts to your commands.

As I wrote on another threat. I'm really impressed with metal frame with no weak spots because no physical buttons. After all, I really like this new phone!
BTW haptic feedback is here also while phone is discharged.

hitmanhunt said:
As I wrote on another threat. I'm really impressed with metal frame with no weak spots because no physical buttons. After all, I really like this new phone!
BTW haptic feedback is here also while phone is discharged.
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As far as I tested it, there is a slight haptic feedback even though the phone is off, when powering it up. Thus I'd guess the power manager takes care that there'll always be enough juice left in the battery to give us such a feedback. By the way you can deactivte this feedback in settings completely, once you got familiar to the new digital buttons.

Did you try the face unlock and the fingerprint scanner? Any delay? As you own the HTC u11, what about HTCs software updates? Thank you!

Impressed...only thing I would like out of them is a OLED display. Otherwise, will probably get rid of my bulky Pixel 2 XL and switch to this phone. Bootloader Unlocking, rooting/modding/Dev support have always been fantastic with HTC phones...and I can use it on Verizon!!

Mario1337 said:
Did you try the face unlock and the fingerprint scanner? Any delay? As you own the HTC u11, what about HTCs software updates? Thank you!
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Yes I did. Face Unlock needs a little delay as they recognize the depths of your face and eyes to make it more secure and to make sure one can't trick it with a picture of yours. Fingerprint is really fast. Didn't recognize any delay when trying it out. Nearly on pat with the brilliant technology of Huawei's fingerprint scanner I'd say.
techlogik said:
Impressed...only thing I would like out of them is a OLED display. Otherwise, will probably get rid of my bulky Pixel 2 XL and switch to this phone. Bootloader Unlocking, rooting/modding/Dev support have always been fantastic with HTC phones...and I can use it on Verizon!!
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Well that's an arguable one. For me personally I'll always prefer an LCD over an OLED, as OLED stolill suffers of burn it's and the LEDs are getting dimmer in time, due to manufacturers running them to bright for such an organic material.
in fact HTC switched back from Gorilla.Glass 5 to Gorilla Glass 3 which is, on the one hand much sturdier, and on the other hand allows for more brightness of the display. Held the Pixel 2XL once and holding my U11 currently. Both are bulkier in hand, as HTC got ergonomics on the U12+ right in any way.
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Really Corning Gorilla Glass 3? As I saw pre-production piece, I can't check it well. I see htc.com has no informations about version of GG. Interesting! Anyway good to know!

hitmanhunt said:
Really Corning Gorilla Glass 3? As I saw pre-production piece, I can't check it well. I see htc.com has no informations about version of GG. Interesting! Anyway good to know!
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HTC went for a custom Corning Gorilla Glass solution on the front and back, noting that the company wanted a harder compound than Gorilla Glass 5. That means the final glass is somewhere in between Gorilla Glass 3 and 5. This harder glass should mean fewer scratches, too, and the glass choice should be useful for LTE reception.
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https://www.androidauthority.com/htc-u12-plus-colors-868077/

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Well that's an arguable one. For me personally I'll always prefer an LCD over an OLED, as OLED stolill suffers of burn it's and the LEDs are getting dimmer in time, due to manufacturers running them to bright for such an organic material.
in fact HTC switched back from Gorilla.Glass 5 to Gorilla Glass 3 which is, on the one hand much sturdier, and on the other hand allows for more brightness of the display. Held the Pixel 2XL once and holding my U11 currently. Both are bulkier in hand, as HTC got ergonomics on the U12+ right in any way.
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Features like AOD I really like, I know there are apps like Glance Plus, but they put little drain on the battery and I find useful with OLED. But I've also used other apps to do the same thing with LED displays on the HTC/LCD displays in the past, so I can live without OLED/AOD and have ways to give notifications/info without a pre-cooked option in a Rom. I've had my Pixel 2 XL for 3 months now, AOD always in use, there is no burn-in....Google fixed these issues assuming you don't have it in Torch mode always and activity randomly on the display. Putting it face down turns it off as well as a preventive measure at night. OLED are better in every way, except a possible burn in issue when it comes to color/black reproduction.
Anyway, you say you have held the U12+ and feels better in the hand compared to the Pixel 2 XL? By the thinner top/bottom and sides, and with the right case...that makes sense. This is what I loved about my OP 5T...but I switched to verizon...and now I'm stuck with limited options for Android and flagship level phones that allow a modding experience. This is just another option now on the market for VZW users.
Thanks

So... How do you enter the bootloader menu or download mode.
Can you still hold pwr+vol.dwn for download mode and pwr+vol.dwn+vol.up for bootloader?

Myrmeko said:
So... How do you enter the bootloader menu or download mode.
Can you still hold pwr+vol.dwn for download mode and pwr+vol.dwn+vol.up for bootloader?
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Still the same way as always. Mechanical buttons convert the pressure into digital signals as well, so the chip knows what to do since a long time. Only difference now: no translator needed any longer.
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Do we know if wifi calling works on verizon yet? I know with the U11 it was not supported on verizon specifically.

evilevn said:
Do we know if wifi calling works on verizon yet? I know with the U11 it was not supported on verizon specifically.
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Sorry man can't tell you as I'm from Germany and only had chance to test the EMEA variant right here.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
It's a touch sensitive button that translates commands just like a mechanical button would translate such commands within the U11. As a matter of fact it is pressure sensitive in order to make possible it always reacts to your commands.
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I was actually going to make an entire thread on these "buttons" until I saw your post. I was going to pull the trigger on buying the U12+ as soon as the phone was available for pre-order, ever since I saw the leaked spec sheet. The spec sheet makes this seem like a dream phone!
However my feelings changed when I saw these "buttons" were not really buttons, only touch sensitive bumps. My immediate concern was how awkward these "buttons" would feel. Then I grew even a bigger concern of how rebooting will work if it's frozen.
You say it will work when the OS frozen, but that doesn't seem to make sense to me. Think about it. The touch screen of phones does not work when phone is frozen. So why would touch buttons be any different? I imagine some where in the phone there has to be software that says "hey we been touched, send the signal to the OS to reboot."
For example laptops have completely separate software for the BIOS on a separate drive, so it still functions if the OS freezes. I'd imagine the U12+ "buttons" would have to be setup internally kind of like BIOS on a computer to work when the phone is frozen. It would need to be separate software to ensure it works when the main software is frozen.
So I am sorry but I think we need to get this concern addressed by an HTC engineer or at least an HTC representative. I have already emailed HTC about this issue but still waiting to hear back.
With that in mind I would like to know. How do the "buttons" feel? Isn't it awkward trying to push in something that doesn't move? Also what's the haptic feedback like? Does it vibrate the entire phone equally, or vibrate just that area near the button? How long did you have with the phone to play around with those "buttons?"

AndroidPurity said:
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However my feelings changed when I saw these "buttons" were not really buttons, only touch sensitive bumps. My immediate concern was how awkward these "buttons" would feel. Then I grew even a bigger concern of how rebooting will work if it's frozen.
You say it will work when the OS frozen, but that doesn't seem to make sense to me. Think about it. The touch screen of phones does not work when phone is frozen. So why would touch buttons be any different? I imagine some where in the phone there has to be software that says "hey we been touched, send the signal to the OS to reboot."
For example laptops have completely separate software for the BIOS on a separate drive, so it still functions if the OS freezes. I'd imagine the U12+ "buttons" would have to be setup internally kind of like BIOS on a computer to work when the phone is frozen. It would need to be separate software to ensure it works when the main software is frozen.
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With that in mind I would like to know. How do the "buttons" feel? Isn't it awkward trying to push in something that doesn't move? Also what's the haptic feedback like? Does it vibrate the entire phone equally, or vibrate just that area near the button? How long did you have with the phone to play around with those "buttons?"
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OK first things first. Those buttons got a separate circuitry as they always had, to make them work even thought the system is frozen.
There is a firmware layer - as its Linux based an separate partition actually - for the buttons. As you might find out if reading up on Linux based systems the firmware layers are a little bit different from the system, and connects the aboot/download mode to the OS. This is the exact same way its working on any laptop running Linux, macOS, or Windows.
So technically nothing to worry.
If it cames to the feel, let me say the following. If you "press" the "buttons", the phone gives a short buzz from the vibration motor as a feedback. You have to get accustomed to that, but can deactivate the haptic feedback completely in settings.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
OK first things first. Those buttons got a separate circuitry as they always had, to make them work even thought the system is frozen.
There is a firmware layer - as its Linux based an separate partition actually - for the buttons. As you might find out if reading up on Linux based systems the firmware layers are a little bit different from the system, and connects the aboot/download mode to the OS. This is the exact same way its working on any laptop running Linux, macOS, or Windows.
So technically nothing to worry.
If it cames to the feel, let me say the following. If you "press" the "buttons", the phone gives a short buzz from the vibration motor as a feedback. You have to get accustomed to that, but can deactivate the haptic feedback completely in settings.
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Perfect timing! I was just coming to update my post because I found out that Apple changed their iPhone home button to only be touch starting in the 7, also in the 8. Interesting I never knew that as a Android user.
Apples soft reset was always home and power buttons held together. But when they changed the home button to be touch only, then they changed the soft reset to be home and volume down buttons. If touch button will work for resetting a frozen phone then why did Apple change theirs when they went to a touch haptic button?
I understand what firmware, and separate partions, and all that stuff is. Except based off what I just found out Apple did with the 7 and 8 I'm still sleptical. Still waiting for HTCs response to my email about this. No offense, I just want their confirmation on this particular issue since no manufacturer has ever done this before with these buttons.

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Apples soft reset was always home and power buttons held together. But when they changed the home button to be touch only, then they changed the soft reset to be home and volume down buttons. If touch button will work for resetting a frozen phone then why did Apple change theirs when they went to a touch haptic button?
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Maybe they just didn't want it to work the old way, or the iOS structure didn't allow for the same to work as on Android. Remember that iOS uses force touch as well and integrated it in a completely different way than Android did. I never understood Apple as there are many thing as well in iOS don't making any sense in his they've been implemented and are working nowadays.
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I was really hoping they would use oled screen.. but still lcd

Fingerprint sensor Tips

Forget all the "you need to not press hard" bull****, it's way simpler than that.
Register your finger while holding the phone in one hand, position your fingerprint on the sensor exactly as you would casually, keep registering it that way, from a limited position on a one handed held.
If you do a "proper" registering process of your fingers from artificial positions just because you think it helps the sensor, it won't work, even minimal changes in your finger shape will make it generate different keys that will not match a real life press.
I registered my fingers from positions I would practically use to unlock later on, the success rate is now 100% as long as I don't miss the sensor on dark screen, no matter the pressure or the time you hold your finger on the sensor, it will now work every single time

Corv0 said:
Forget all the "you need to not press hard" bull****, it's way simpler than that.
Register your finger while holding the phone in one hand, position your fingerprint on the sensor exactly as you would casually, keep registering it that way, from a limited position on a one handed held.
If you do a "proper" registering process of your fingers from artificial positions just because you think it helps the sensor, it won't work, even minimal changes in your finger shape will make it generate different keys that will not match a real life press.
I registered my fingers from positions I would practically use to unlock later on, the success rate is now 100% as long as I don't miss the sensor on dark screen, no matter the pressure or the time you hold your finger on the sensor, it will now work every single time
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I tend to agree with you. I registered both right and left thumbs and they both work on command. No 2nd or 3rd attempts yet. Just register the thumbs like you would naturally hold them on the screen(flat).

I also feel like the fingerprint scanner icon is a bit misleading, given the fact that the sensorbis actually above the actual icon

Corv0 said:
Forget all the "you need to not press hard" bull****, it's way simpler than that.
Register your finger while holding the phone in one hand, position your fingerprint on the sensor exactly as you would casually, keep registering it that way, from a limited position on a one handed held.
If you do a "proper" registering process of your fingers from artificial positions just because you think it helps the sensor, it won't work, even minimal changes in your finger shape will make it generate different keys that will not match a real life press.
I registered my fingers from positions I would practically use to unlock later on, the success rate is now 100% as long as I don't miss the sensor on dark screen, no matter the pressure or the time you hold your finger on the sensor, it will now work every single time
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But when I try to casually tap the screen to register fingerprint naturally, it won't register, keeps saying press harder or hold longer

Or register the same finger twice.. That's the better solution
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Shuthefrontdoor said:
But when I try to casually tap the screen to register fingerprint naturally, it won't register, keeps saying press harder or hold longer
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The tap needs a certain amount of pressure, not too light either

Corv0 said:
Forget all the "you need to not press hard" bull****, it's way simpler than that.
Register your finger while holding the phone in one hand, position your fingerprint on the sensor exactly as you would casually, keep registering it that way, from a limited position on a one handed held.
If you do a "proper" registering process of your fingers from artificial positions just because you think it helps the sensor, it won't work, even minimal changes in your finger shape will make it generate different keys that will not match a real life press.
I registered my fingers from positions I would practically use to unlock later on, the success rate is now 100% as long as I don't miss the sensor on dark screen, no matter the pressure or the time you hold your finger on the sensor, it will now work every single time
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Same, and i registered the finger I'm going to be using most twice. Registered casually and from a natural position. I think mine has failed to unlock maybe 3 times in a week. In this case...keep it simple don't over think it.

Sensor is off
I noticed when the screen is off in dark mode and u take a flashlight on a angle of the screen i noticed the sensor is like a U shape just slighty to the left of the finger print icon, now that i kinda setup my finger print just a tat left og the finger print icon its been 100 procent i also noticed moist fingers work better . i could be wrong about it being a sensor but the U shape i think would be the sensor

wirelezzz said:
I noticed when the screen is off in dark mode and u take a flashlight on a angle of the screen i noticed the sensor is like a U shape just slighty to the left of the finger print icon, now that i kinda setup my finger print just a tat left og the finger print icon its been 100 procent i also noticed moist fingers work better . i could be wrong about it being a sensor but the U shape i think would be the sensor
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You don't need to move your finger away, the sensing part of the sensor is perfectly aligned in the middle

New update on firmware.Science for snapdragon. SBA TO SD3. Made a world of difference for me. Can't wait for my replacement Whitestone to get here to see if sensor works any better with tempered glass. This update absolutely made a huge difference. Not slightly, very significant change for me. I register both thumbs twice and I couldn't get it to not unlock every time. 50+ unlocks and maybe 2 failures. I stopped counting at 50.

Will it work on verizon or only unlocked?
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im on ASC8 firmware on the G9750 10+ and its terrible. hopefully an update comes soon..

Mine has been pretty much perfect since the new firmware update.
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nugzo said:
New update on firmware.Science for snapdragon. SBA TO SD3. Made a world of difference for me. Can't wait for my replacement Whitestone to get here to see if sensor works any better with tempered glass. This update absolutely made a huge difference. Not slightly, very significant change for me. I register both thumbs twice and I couldn't get it to not unlock every time. 50+ unlocks and maybe 2 failures. I stopped counting at 50.
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I'm waiting on my Whitestone replacement as well. Can you keep us informed on how the sensor works with your new install? I had to pull the last one. It was horrible. I miss my glass...

The problem for me and many people is that when the finger being scanned is dry, scanning won't work (and will be asked to "press harder"). Some people then try to press really hard and it will, forever, say "not match".
People with moisted fingers will not have this problem and will not understand the kind of people I mentioned above. Since I have S10+ for a month, I, kind of, know when the scanning will not work. I will use face scanning instead or if I really want to scan my finger with whatever reason, I just rub my nose with my thumb then it will 100% work (greasy nose does the trick).
I don't know if Samsung can ever fix this since it is not how accurate the reader is.

Dry fingers don't work with the fps even when removing the pre-installed screen protector?
I am debating to remove the screen protector and my main points are:
1. The protection offered by the pre installed screen protector is minimal either way.
2. That the screen colors and usage will become much better.
3. That the fps will work much better even with dry fingers due to the oleophovic coat of the screen.
Has anyone who removed the screen protector tested this?

madvinegar said:
Dry fingers don't work with the fps even when removing the pre-installed screen protector?
I am debating to remove the screen protector and my main points are:
1. The protection offered by the pre installed screen protector is minimal either way.
2. That the screen colors and usage will become much better.
3. That the fps will work much better even with dry fingers due to the oleophovic coat of the screen.
Has anyone who removed the screen protector tested this?
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I removed mine yesterday and it does help a little with the fps. I still don't like the fps though, I would much rather have a Face ID equivalent. Or have the fps on the back.

itsachirpthing said:
I'm waiting on my Whitestone replacement as well. Can you keep us informed on how the sensor works with your new install? I had to pull the last one. It was horrible. I miss my glass...
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I had reached out to Whitestone because my first install failed. I had the WSD on my s9+ and went through 5 or 6 in the year (I dropped my phone a lot). So I knew what I was doing, but the first try had a huge bubble. Tried doing the cleaning and reinstall with the backup glue and had a bunch of microscopic bubbles in the top and bottom (guessing I didn't clean it well enough before reinstall). I wasn't sure how to register warrenty wise because technically it worked fine, just was having FPS issues. They ended up replacing without me paying for the shipping which was awesome of them.
Recieved my replacement today, and the install is flawless. One thing to note is on the 10+ the absorb pads hook into the top tray not the bottom (that was a hell of a mess the first time). The original kit didn't come with the pads pre-installed like the replacement kit.
I haven't even gotten the latest OTA yet, and with the WSD glass, it's just as quick and success rate is the same as when I had the pre-installed protector. Might even be faster than my s9+ was...

Magnetic tempered glass casing (screen + case combo)

I ran across an ad for what looks like an amazing solution for protecting our smartphones (check out attached image)
Has anyone ever ordered / have experience with the vendor desoor.com ?
I have not found too much info about them using Google, so Inquiring here.
Here is a link to the OP7Pro case purchase site :
https://www.desoor.com/collections/phone-cases/products/phone-case
Thanks for your help!

Going to order one will post back

Don't buy cases with magnets, they mess with the functionality of the phone.

djsubterrain said:
Don't buy cases with magnets, they mess with the functionality of the phone.
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How? I have a magnet on my phone and it's been working fine but I'm a little concerned now lol

i bought this one on from ebay but its not here yet
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/372732963574

wiswis said:
How? I have a magnet on my phone and it's been working fine but I'm a little concerned now lol
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I've seen people mention GPS issues while using cases like that

djsubterrain said:
I've seen people mention GPS issues while using cases like that
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I use GPS with a magnet and it works fine

wiswis said:
I use GPS with a magnet and it works fine
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i have my phone on a magnetic car mount all day using gps and its fine

Gotta admit, I've never seen anything like this! There has to be a gap of some sort between the screen and the protector, so I wonder how well the screen responds? I'm currently using the sandstone case from OnePlus along with the factory applied screen protector and both are working well for me so far. The price seems fair. So we need some guinea pigs. Looking forward to reading some first hand reviews.

this is a scam. I ordered from one of those ads on facebook. Its the same damn product advertised by different websites (allbort, bowbul, desoor). They are all in china. One on ebay is 7 bucks but these websites charge 21 bucks. I cancelled the order 4 hrs after putting it. Even though they say they will cancel the order if it has not shipped, they didnt cancel and sent me an email 2 days later that they can not cancel it because it has shipped. Then I think well, give me the shipping tracking info. Now they say there is a problem with the post-office. I tried to resolve it with paypal but there were of no help either.

Reymundo911 said:
I ran across an ad for what looks like an amazing solution for protecting our smartphones ..!
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I bought and used one of those two sided tempered glass magnetic screen protector for just short of four months. As soon as I got it I spent time looking for alternate cases but was surprised that I liked it better than my initial impression. At first I thought the back was more slippery than a fish just out of water but that wasn't true even when my hand was sweaty. Note that I'm a two handed phone user.
Every week or so specs of dirt would appear under the screen like with a tgsp that isn't full adhesive. I just opened the cover then use a piece of tape to remove the specs and it looked great again. Unfortunately the weekly clean eventually was the end of that case. Prying the top and bottom apart must have twisted the top as the tempered glass cracked. Within a day I saw a similar crack on the bottom half. So be very careful when you eventually need to remove specs of dirt.
One other draw back of this case is the lack of sensitivity at the very bottom of the screen. If you use Gestures then no matter how high you crank up screen sensitivity in the settings it is not good enough. My solution was to install FNG (Fluid Navigation Gestures) from the playstore. You can set it up for left or right side gestures and the case has enough sensitivity to work reliably.
Oddly enough even though I no longer use the case and have turned down screen sensitivity to normal plus have Android 10 installed (better gestures right in the OOS), I still use FNG. It has more features that I'm not prepared to give up.
Finger print scanner sensitivity was never an issue once I cranked up the settings and re-entered my finger prints.

the case i recieved bent when i was trying to unattach the magnets

These magnetic cases look beautiful until you drop it. It falls apart, is slippery and provides zero protection. I bought one for my previous s10+. Just fell apart and phone flew out and hit the floor. Beautiful dent near the top right edge of the phone.

Thanks everyone for the info. I guess it is not worth it!

3DSammy said:
I bought and used one of those two sided tempered glass magnetic screen protector for just short of four months. As soon as I got it I spent time looking for alternate cases but was surprised that I liked it better than my initial impression. At first I thought the back was more slippery than a fish just out of water but that wasn't true even when my hand was sweaty. Note that I'm a two handed phone user.
Every week or so specs of dirt would appear under the screen like with a tgsp that isn't full adhesive. I just opened the cover then use a piece of tape to remove the specs and it looked great again. Unfortunately the weekly clean eventually was the end of that case. Prying the top and bottom apart must have twisted the top as the tempered glass cracked. Within a day I saw a similar crack on the bottom half. So be very careful when you eventually need to remove specs of dirt.
One other draw back of this case is the lack of sensitivity at the very bottom of the screen. If you use Gestures then no matter how high you crank up screen sensitivity in the settings it is not good enough. My solution was to install FNG (Fluid Navigation Gestures) from the playstore. You can set it up for left or right side gestures and the case has enough sensitivity to work reliably.
Oddly enough even though I no longer use the case and have turned down screen sensitivity to normal plus have Android 10 installed (better gestures right in the OOS), I still use FNG. It has more features that I'm not prepared to give up.
Finger print scanner sensitivity was never an issue once I cranked up the settings and re-entered my finger prints.
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I'm curious about FNG, I downloaded and got pro to see if it could replace xposed edge for me for full side navigation. It seems like it might, however I can't get the additional gestures of swipe up and down to work. I have them set as home and recents but nothing happens. Back works just fine, so does menu as backs secondary function. All permissions it asked me are enabled. Any help would be appreciated.
Sorry for being completely off topic.

Case is ****. Plastic not glass.

GeekMcLeod said:
I'm curious about FNG, I downloaded and got pro to see if it could replace xposed edge for me for full side navigation. It seems like it might, however I can't get the additional gestures of swipe up and down to work. I have them set as home and recents but nothing happens. Back works just fine, so does menu as backs secondary function. All permissions it asked me are enabled. Any help would be appreciated.
Sorry for being completely off topic.
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I'd never used the up/down swipes but gave them a try and they both worked to start an app. At first the gesture was very unreliable. I adjusted the "Sensitivity" slide (in settings on the same page as you assign the swipe action), to half way and then the swipe was perfectly consistent. The sensitivity widened the swipe area farther into the screen. I think any phone case that is close to the screen border makes the swipe area more difficult to contact and be recognized by FNG.