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screen not sensitive: manufacturing fault or unreal expectations ??

every review i've read online before i bought the unit was boasting about how "finger-friendly" the TP2 was, and that you could lightly swipe your finger across it to navigate the menu and that the touchscreen was very sensitive and whatnot
however after 2 weeks of use i find that to be relatively untrue. i've got to apply a fair amount of pressure on the screen to get it to register my input. of course, i'm posting this because i'm afraid that i might be damaging the screen in the process
i have no basis for comparison actually, my only 2 other touchscreen devices at home are an iphone and a cowon s9, both use capacitive screens. i always knew there was a big difference between capacitive screens and resistive screens, i just didn't know it was THIS huge. i can actually slide my finger lightly over the iphone's surface and its registered properly. the sliding probably feels smoother as its glass, but i can live with the TP2's plastic. what do you guys think ? should i get it checked out at the HTC store ?? its on the other side of town, don't wanna waste a trip as if its not a problem
oh yeah and just to get this out of the way, the screen is a membrane and not a hard surface right ?? everytime i press on the screen using my finger or the stylus, i can feel the screen slightly moving down, can also see the surface getting slightly dented at the point my finger pushes it if looking at it from a certain angle.
ps before somebody asks: i only got to test the keyboard at the telco store, some punk had cracked the screen of the display set, so i didn't know about this screen issue until i actually purchased the set
sorry for the long post, but i'd really appreciate any comments
TIA

Well, I don't have an Iphone so i can't tell you about how it compares with the TP2, however, i found the display to be much better than the one on my old XDA. It will probably never as good as a capacitive device like the touchpad on my laptop, but I found it to work very well. You have to apply a certain amount of pressue to the display, because it reacts on pressure, so I guess there is nothing wrong with that. I also see a small dent when I use the stylus and press the display. I cannot confirm the screen slightly going down when pressing it.
To summarize it, i use the Stylus 90% of the time. It glides much better on the display than my finger does so the overall experience is slightly better when using a stylus. Plus i don't get any greasy fingerprints on my display.
However the 10% I use my fingers to work on it (and 25% of that 10% is spent on polishing I found it to work pretty well, so in general I don't think that the reviews were off when it comes to finger usability.

What you are describing is probably normal. Resistive screens do require pressure. The TP2 tends to require less pressure than others, but nonetheless it does require it. There's no comparison if you compare it to a capacitive screen device because those don't require pressure at all.
The flexing of the screen that you described is something all resistive screens have. Again, if you compare the screen flex of the TP2 to earlier HTC devices, it's greatly improved.
To be on the safe side, go to a store and try out other resistive screen devices and see if you experience the same thing as your own. Then you'll know what is considered "normal".

thanks for the replies, i'll probably head down to my telco's store and see if they've replaced the display set then.
any other comments ??

You know I thought the same, waiting for a cab to increase the sensitivity because at the moment its quite annoying pressing buttons more than once...

From a few years to nowadays i´ve always used QTEK/HTC devices, my latest one is, ofcourse, HTC RHODIUM, the rom it has installed is RUU_Rhodium_HTC_PTG_1.19.410.0_Radio_Rhodium_3.44.25.27_Signed_Ship, and the screen is very sensitive and responsive, i´m just very pleased with it overall, it´s the best.
Cheers.

eXceed said:
You know I thought the same, waiting for a cab to increase the sensitivity because at the moment its quite annoying pressing buttons more than once...
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you don't need .cab
just change in registry...
HKLM/drivers/Touch Driver/pressurethreshold, (default=10000)
(I might not remember perfectly, but it's something like that)

try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469865

this might help just re align your screen again using little pressure then your screen will not need some much pressure to work.
I have found the this not only aligns the screen but the pressure as well.
mine I just have to lightly touch it and dont have to press very much at all.
Cheers

I <3 Touchscreen buttons

One of my favorite aspects of this phone is the button-less design. I find them so much easier to press no matter where you press on them, they look much better on screen and the phone itself looks a lot better without those tacky printed capacitive buttons on the front. I was never a fan of those on Android phones.
The touch screen buttons have pretty much ruined other Android devices to my eye. I don't understand why phones are still coming out with those.
I also like how because of the fact that they are on the touch screen, you can press gently or hard and the button recognizes that. Not that it matters so much in how it functions, but it's still cool.
TL;DR
Touch screen buttons are awesome. True story.

I with you on this one. I came from an N1 and once i was used to the buttons on screen i loved them... at first i wasn't a fan but after a while it gets better! Defo agree with the looks aspect too, so much more slick and sheek and the way they dissapear when playing video is great, giving a massive screen for such a better viewing!
I would prefer if the front camera wasn't visable but i suppose theres not much that can be done about that without effecting the camera quality.

I completely agree. The design of this Nexus is almost perfect. Reduce the size of the phone a little by removing most of the space above and below the screen, and it's perfect. I'm sure that will be possible in a year or two.

Like I said, when I see an Android device with those back lit printed buttons, it just looks makes the device look so dated.
Hopefully most if not all future releases won't have them.

Are the buttons ever un-responsive or laggy? That's one of my biggest concerns. Maybe I'm just too used to older Android phones

Yumunum said:
Are the buttons ever un-responsive or laggy? That's one of my biggest concerns. Maybe I'm just too used to older Android phones
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Not at all. That's what's so great about them being touchscreen. On other phones there is a dead-zone where you have to hit and like you said, sometimes that was annoying and would require a double tap.
Since the touchscreen can be touched anywhere, the buttons are extremely responsive. You lightly touch them, and a little glow appears around the button, as you press, the glow grows. It's awesome.

Be warned....no buttons has its risks...the other day my buttons disappeared and screen was frozen. Had to pull the battery. Turned back on and was in Odin mode stuck. Powered off even though it said not to and phone came back to life. Pretty scary though.
With that said the button rotating with the screen is awesome! Hope to see more phones coming out with this. Would also be nice to expand and have a few other custom buttons down there or maybe on a different part of the screen.
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If your phone is frozen, it doesn't matter if it's hard or soft buttons, they are going to be frozen anyway. Not really a disadvantage in that sense.
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dizgotti said:
Be warned....no buttons has its risks...the other day my buttons disappeared and screen was frozen. Had to pull the battery. Turned back on and was in Odin mode stuck. Powered off even though it said not to and phone came back to life. Pretty scary though.
With that said the button rotating with the screen is awesome! Hope to see more phones coming out with this. Would also be nice to expand and have a few other custom buttons down there or maybe on a different part of the screen.
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I don't think having buttons would help in the above case though

I totally agree.... no buttons is fun. It also has a very clean look that I enjoy.
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I agree with the virtual keys, but I really wish we could toggle then on and off so we can use the full 4.65"screen.

wonshikee said:
I agree with the virtual keys, but I really wish we could toggle then on and off so we can use the full 4.65"screen.
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There's mod for GTab 10.1 which has a menu option on long-press power button to hide keys, so I'm sure it won't be long before you see it on GNex. Paul?

If the ts buttons are on screen surely they can be customized like, they would be awesome if you could turn them purple or something
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I actually prefer phisical buttons, those clicky clickety ones
An I care very little about design.
I wish they still make phones with 4 directions and ok buttons + menu and back.
When I use my old htc tattoo, it's slow like hell, worst screen ever, but the phisical keys make me love it anyways!

+1
always liked the virtual button (i have been using xoom before the ICS, and always hunger it on phones).

Testing the HTC One X for trnd.com

Hey everybody.
Thought to open a thread about my experiences with the HTC One X, which I am testing for a couple of months for a marketing research company (trnd.com -> please remove/censor if considered advertising).
I'll skip the packaging and first impressions and jump right into one thing I am a bit ambiguous about. The HTC Sense GUI.
It is pretty nice and feels sensational to the touch. Everything responds in a breeze and I reckon the Gorilla glass does contribute to that. I am not a huge friend of manuals. As a matter of fact, I deliberately left it unread so I can test part of HTC's claim as to what the Sense GUI is and how it supposedly changes our interactions with the phone.
Well ... it does to some degree. However I consider it rather annoying of having to pull down the status bar all the way down the screen to get it to stay open and be able to interact with it. I use this rather often and I would have appreciated it much more, if it was some type of drop-down or pull-down-only-as-far-as-I-need menu. In the beginning I tended to do the latter, hold it there and tap the required item with another finger. Rather awkward, you'll agree, but nonetheless it worked. Which is positive.
What I really liked was the ability to pinch on any of the home screens to get a miniature view of all seven of them and then tap the one I require to switch to. Much more useful than having to flip through them. Even more so when you're on the far left and you need the far right screen. Because oddly enough, there's no circle-through kind of magic implemented.
These are my main quirks with the HTC Sense so far.
I'll be posting again about the camera and the Beats audio later.
Cheers

Just a slight flick opens it for me, another to close it.
BTW, the draw is an Android function, HTC just styled it a little.

I don't understand? You just do a tiny flick from the status bar. Are you saying you have to run your finger the length of the phone?
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the gorilla glass isn't as gorilla as it was on the Galaxy or Droid line, either because version 2 is a lie or it's the way HTC has the screen set into the frame. there are far too many screens cracking imo, but it is kind of raised up.

[Q] Holding note 10.1 2014 in portrait mode

How is it possible to hold this tab in portrait mode with those stupid hardware buttons located at where my left had is supposed to grip the tab?
I think this will be a turnoff for people who intend to use the tablet mainly for reading and annotating textbook, unless there is an option to disable hardware buttons while in portrait mode or completely disable them and replace them with software buttons with orientation.

The alternative will be holding the tablet upside down with the left hand gripping the camera
btw this is the only issue holding me from buying this tab

It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.

Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?

miloytyn said:
Since the buttons are on the long side, that is the default way of holding it. Now the question is that if you are holding it with left hand, why you don't simply rotate it to other direction?
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Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.
I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.

fryguy18 said:
It seems like people are making a bigger issue out of this than it actually is. The long side is around 10 inches long and the buttons might take up three. I'm sure you'll be able to handle it without accidental button presses. In my opinion, having the menu button just below my thumb is a welcome feature.
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It may be only me but I'm more comfortable holding the tab from the middle of the left side.

Kimo377 said:
Being a right handed person i hold the tab by the left hand and write/turn pages by the right.
I'm not sure if holding the tab by the camera is a wise idea, for the risk of accidentally touching the camera lens.
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Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.
ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.

Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.

miloytyn said:
Well I don't see why touch the lens is that bad thing, as it usually is the part of phone, for exsample, which is touching table etc. And any fingerprints can be easily wiped from the lens. But that is just me.
ps. I don't understand using covers with phones either, with tablet they are more useful.
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For me phone cover is more important since I drop it frequently unlike the tab

Han Solo 1 said:
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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You are right about the back camera but the front one i use frequently for video calls.

Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button! it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.

Han Solo 1 said:
Yep, this is the only drawback I see. My stupid Crapple fans are going to laugh at me with their thin-bezeled, button free iPad 5's.
I don't know why the hell they had to put a hardware button on it. Hardware buttons on tablets are stupid.
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I'll probably rotate it and hold it by the camera lens. It's not like I'll ever use a gigantic tablet to take a picture anyway. That's why I'm getting my Note 3, so I can take pictures with a gigantic phone.
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Say what you will but I think an inch bezel around the whole tablet is necessary, how else you plan on holding the thing if there is no room for your thumb. I could care less about what any isheep has to say about my tablet.
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thank god it has a thin bezel and a hard button. finally i'm convinced to buy a tablet.
I was holding of for years until there was one like this one. why dont you guys that want a thick bezel get one of the other dozen tablets that have the design you want. they have been out for years.

demz92 said:
Looks like i'm the only one that actually likes the idea of a hard button! it's an instant access to home, not being able to do this on a nexus annoys me, but i don't see why this should be a deal breaker really.
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While im not crazy about the idea I do have a Note 2 and already i'm use to them being there.
Actually I can see some benefits....
I'm sure you can disable the buttons or a program will come out that can.
In fact here is a rough draft on how to hack them...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34247225&postcount=14

The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.
Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.
What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
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Soryuu said:
The reason why they have physical buttons is because since 4.2 and up, the tablet UI became the phone UI. So you no longer had a bar at the bottom, one side with cappy buttons and the other with the notification drawer.
Instead you have a status bar like on phones AND a bar at the bottom for only three buttons. Less screen estate, especially considering that Samsung would use the Home, Back and Menu buttons in capacitive form. That takes away quite a bit of screen space and you can see it happening especially in videos. To get what I mean, take a look at the 4.2.2 firmware for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. More screen is lost because the design guidelines have changed.
What Samsung's done is take away the bottom bar and used the physical buttons instead. Not the best solution but it allows for more screen space. On the Note, it'd be a bit of a shame to have about a centimetre thick part of that awesome screen taken up by three buttons.
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I agree with this. Though I am not a huge fan of the physical buttons I really like that it has the extra screen real-estate.

someone will mod it soon. i've actually gotten used to the buttons on my gn8. the only time hate em is when gaming. the rom I use has a mod to turn them off and only make them useable via spen. you'll get used to it too. you may never like it, but you can find a work around.

As someone who owns this tablet the physical buttons are a huge step backwards. Why? That POS menu key. Coming from the original Note 10.1 it's ridiculous constantly hitting that menu button to find out if it has a menu available. Compare to the original Note 10.1 where menu options appear in the action bar. Samsung has completely ruined the tablet experience with their incredibly stupid design choices. This tablet is such a huge pain to navigate. Why can't somebody else offer a Wacom stylus on their 10" Android tablet? I wish Google would throw an S Pen'ish stylus on their Nexus 10 so I can rid myself of Samsung's incompetence. I've never had such a frustrating tech purchase.
I have a Note II with a physical menu key but it's not nearly as frustrating because everything is so close together. I feel like my hand is running a marathon with this tablet having to move all ovef the place to navigate the UI.
I love the S Pen. It works beautifully. The screen is gorgeous. It's not a brick like some other high resolution tablets. It's very powerful and fast. Why oh why did they throw hardware keys on this thing and muck everything up. I would gladly take the black bar on the bottom with home, task switch and back if I could.
The disable hardware keys mod cannot come fast enough for me.

i'm not really diggin the physical buttons either. there's enough screen real estate to have the nav bar on the bottom. the home button is ok, but the menu and back have becoe more and more of a nuisance. i tolerate them on the gn8 b/c of the extra screen area i get plus using the soft nav buttons hack doesn't hide button properly in full screen video.
i can get use them being there on the note10 but i don't won't like them better than soft nav buttons. i hope if they hack it that it'll properly hide in full screen.

I haven't read the posts in this thread, but I wanted to comment that I happen to like the hard buttons. I'm right handed and hold it with my left like OP. I like that I can reach the option, home and return buttons (this is what you all mean by "hard buttons" right?) with my thumb. The design feels very intuitive and quite natural. I also recently found out that you can quickly access the task manager by holding down the home button. It will open up a menu similar to the menu that opened when you pressed the double rectangle button on the older model. The more time I spend with this device the more I love it. My mom is actually getting the new Note 3 so she's going to let me have her Note 2. I can finally get rid of this iphone 3 that came free with my contract.

Get rid of these on screen buttons?

I hope someone out there figures out how to get rid of these on screen buttons, what a waste of space.
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PhilPan said:
I hope someone out there figures out how to get rid of these on screen buttons, what a waste of space.
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if they remove the buttons how will you operate it? It does not have capacitive buttons like the previous one, they were removed.

nugzo said:
if they remove the buttons how will you operate it? It does not have capacitive buttons like the previous one, they were removed.
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LMT. Usually one of the first apps I install, once we get root.
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I just couldn't buy this phone after seeing all that wasted screen space I am so sad

wow I"m suprised by the hate for the soft keys. They were the big reason I upgraded from the M7.

meest said:
wow I"m suprised by the hate for the soft keys. They were the big reason I upgraded from the M7.
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It's not a hate for soft keys. It's a complete hate on HTC for basically putting a huge space for capacitive buttons but saying F you and just leaving empty valuable screen space

stu5797 said:
It's not a hate for soft keys. It's a complete hate on HTC for basically putting a huge space for capacitive buttons but saying F you and just leaving empty valuable screen space
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the thing you are missing here is... that area is not wasted screen space. it was never screen space, it isnt the screen down there. Yes it is black and looks like the screen but the screen ends right below the on screen buttons, above the HTC logo. If they painted it silver would that make you happy? You've posted 20 times about how mad you are and that this phone is a disaster etc... Why? it is by no means a disaster and your mis understanding of the display is causing you grief. Just buy the phone and enjoy it. There is no wasted screen space, that isnt a screen down there, its just a black bezel.

PhilPan said:
I hope someone out there figures out how to get rid of these on screen buttons, what a waste of space.
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You can't completely remove them, the reasons are obvious but you could hide them while you're not using them... This will probably be implemented in some ROMs

Nugzo, that's nice of you to try and stick up for HTC. How come on the beautiful HTC one there is not bezel on the bottom? The truth is you don't know why so don't try and defend. I own many phones and enjoy them. Please don't let my opinion make you come up with fake explanations. Relax and enjoy your phone
FYI... IT IS completely wasted valuable screen real estate

There are very simply edits to framework-res that can change the navbar height. Stock height is 48dpi. 42 dpi on most devices is about as short as you want to go and have them still function. Set it to zero to remove it for that matter. Just make sure you have some other way to control your device. I know there are apps to give you that control.
Of course this will require root at the very least.
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nugzo said:
the thing you are missing here is... that area is not wasted screen space. it was never screen space, it isnt the screen down there. Yes it is black and looks like the screen but the screen ends right below the on screen buttons, above the HTC logo. If they painted it silver would that make you happy? You've posted 20 times about how mad you are and that this phone is a disaster etc... Why? it is by no means a disaster and your mis understanding of the display is causing you grief. Just buy the phone and enjoy it. There is no wasted screen space, that isnt a screen down there, its just a black bezel.
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For me it's disappointing that they kept the logo at the bottom. If they were going to go with on screen buttons and all that's great but they should have removed that part.
Perhaps as development takes off one of the items that can be done is to remove the dock and shift the buttons down. I don't use the dock much and could live without it.
I am waiting a bit to buy mine just to see where the developer community takes this device. I am sure I am a buyer in a month or two but just not impressed enough to run out and buy day 1, week 1, month 1.
MG

you sound like a spoiled brat
Who cares about the buttons. I'm sure they had a good reason, maybe space limitations, maybe they got on the band wagon, I don't know but...
We finally have a Micro SDXC slot. So go buy an S4 or better yet wait for the S5 which is going to be great according to all their marketing hype.
Regards,
GFY

Icyman said:
Who cares about the buttons. I'm sure they had a good reason, maybe space limitations, maybe they got on the band wagon, I don't know but...
We finally have a Micro SDXC slot. So go buy an S4 or better yet wait for the S5 which is going to be great according to all their marketing hype.
Regards,
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That's good to know you are so happy with the micro SD card slot and you are making excuses as to why there is so much wasted space. You are easy to please. Enjoy!

stu5797 said:
It's not a hate for soft keys. It's a complete hate on HTC for basically putting a huge space for capacitive buttons but saying F you and just leaving empty valuable screen space
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The space wasn't put there for capacitive buttons, it was put there because there is hardware sitting there inside the phone. Due to the hardware that's there, they weren't able to put a capacitive strip there, which is why the buttons have been moved to on-screen buttons. Of course, if you really wanted the capacitive buttons, they could've given you that, but then increased the bezel size and therefore, the entire phone.
I initially didn't like the setup either, but I've gotten over it and it hasn't hindered my enjoyment of the phone in any way.

stu5797 said:
Nugzo, that's nice of you to try and stick up for HTC. How come on the beautiful HTC one there is not bezel on the bottom? The truth is you don't know why so don't try and defend. I own many phones and enjoy them. Please don't let my opinion make you come up with fake explanations. Relax and enjoy your phone
FYI... IT IS completely wasted valuable screen real estate
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Its not fake dude lol. there is a schematic of the phone in another thread, the digitizer is where the black HTC strip and logo is. In order to change that design, they would have to lose the front facing speakers. and again it is not wasted screen real estate, it isnt a screen. it is used for the digitizer. In order for it to be wasted screen real estate, it would have to be part of the screen, It is not. maybe you can consider it wasted front panel real estate, but not screen, because it isnt the screen there.

nugzo said:
maybe you can consider it wasted front panel real estate, but not screen, because it isnt the screen there.
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I think this is what he, and several others, are upset about. The M8 has a lower screen-to-surface area ratio than something like the LG G2. I'm sure the area under the logo bar is being used for electronics, but would've been nice to see this area reduced because it is not functional space for the user like the screen or speakers. The M7 made use of this space by incorporating capacitive buttons to leave the screen more free.
On the other side of things, I still don't l don't like giving up any real estate on my screen. However, there's a relatively easy fix that I use on my Nexus 7: GMD Auto Hide Soft Keys. It makes the screen completely clear of the soft keys during normal use, but you just need to swipe up from the bottom to get them back in any app. You can even customize the area that you swipe up from (position, size, etc...).
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Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.hidesoftkeys
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Is the bezel as noticeable after using the phone a few days?

I personally hate the wasted real estate worst feature about the phone. I'm a massive HTC fan but it was a mistake to waste space with just logo.
Still prefer this over the other phones the only exception could be Xperia z2 just have to wait and see.

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Is the bezel as noticeable after using the phone a few days?
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I don't notice mine at all
riz157 said:
I personally hate the wasted real estate worst feature about the phone. I'm a massive HTC fan but it was a mistake to waste space with just logo.
Still prefer this over the other phones the only exception could be Xperia z2 just have to wait and see.
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Like has been said in several threads, including this one, there is HARDWARE under the strip... Its not "wasted".

Gmd sort of works but u have to manually toggle it on and off after each reboot
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