Can I use another charger to prevent the P2 from fast charging? - Lenovo P2 Questions & Answers

Hi.
I originally came from a vibe P1 which is now my gf's. One issue I had with the P1 is it gets noticeably hot during charging, which I take is not so good for the battery. Can I use a lower rated charger and let the P2 charge at normal speed to prolong the lifetime of this phone? I currently have a 2A charger from a Xiaomi RN4, I do not know how much current is the P2 charger rated. I'd appreciate all inputs.
Thanks.

you can indeed . of course it will take a bit longer to charge the phone . I use an old Samsung charger - 0.5A for charging phone and tablet .

The Mero said:
you can indeed . of course it will take a bit longer to charge the phone . I use an old Samsung charger - 0.5A for charging phone and tablet .
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Any chance that you know the Watt rate of the stock charger that comes with the phone? I have a 5V 2A charger which I guess is 10W. I have no idea how much W is Quick Charge 3.0 rated for but I'd like to have one quick charger to bring with me on trips and a normal one to charge it at home in normal situations.

Z3VN said:
Any chance that you know the Watt rate of the stock charger that comes with the phone? I have a 5V 2A charger which I guess is 10W. I have no idea how much W is Quick Charge 3.0 rated for but I'd like to have one quick charger to bring with me on trips and a normal one to charge it at home in normal situations.
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It was explained here many times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/accessories/replacement-charger-party-charger-t3662211
Lenovo P2 IS NOT QUICK CHARGE 3.0 compatible !

pabgar said:
It was explained here many times !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/accessories/replacement-charger-party-charger-t3662211
Lenovo P2 IS NOT QUICK CHARGE 3.0 compatible !
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I received the phone today. I think the charger that comes with the phone is some kind of quick charger because it is rated for different voltages, about the same current. So the verdict is the p2 has quick charging, just not Qualcomm's quick charge 3.0?

Z3VN said:
So the verdict is the p2 has quick charging, just not Qualcomm's quick charge 3.0?
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Exactly.
It is really strange, but so it is.

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Charging speed

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Charging speed with a Quick Charge 2.0 adapter is as expected: excellent. It is in line with other phones with the same capability.
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Charging speed with a Quick Charge 2.0 adapter is as expected: excellent. It is in line with other phones with the same capability.
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Will Quick Charging work with my Motorola Turbo charger if I use the Robin cable on it?
jbarajasp said:
Will Quick Charging work with my Motorola Turbo charger if I use the Robin cable on it?
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I'm not sure, but I've tested it with Aukey (wall) and Anker (car) chargers, both work fine with Quick Charge 2.0 speeds.
I charged with the official charger and a Iselector Qualcomm quick charge and nothing as well. Iselector worked on both the V10 and G4. Not sure why this is not working
Nevermind. Charging fast now. False Alarm lol
I thought the charging speed was great when I wasn't paying attention, but when I did actually pay attention and time it, it took about 1 hour and 40 minutes to fully charge. So, I would check into that. Also, the Robin doesn't seem to be USB-C Power Delivery Compliant to deliver the rapid charging like the Nexus 6p and Nexus 5x does, so getting fast charging from USB-C chargers that take USB-C to USB-C cables is useless, you'll get standard speeds. So please implement USB-C Power Delivery in the successor to the Nextbit Robin, so we can enjoy that fast charging technology as well, in addition to Qualcomm Quick Charge fast charging technology.
I am waiting for my Robin to be delivered. I am really confused about the charger. Does it show anything on the screen when a proper quick charge 2 charger is used. Like, in my Nexus 5X when I use original charger it shows "charging rapidly" but when I use another charger it shows "charging" or "charging slowly" depending on the source.
I'm from Bangladesh and it's hard to find a certified QC 2.0 charger. Is it ok if I buy a charger which is has 5V2A or 9V2A or 12V1.5A written on it?
S.Nahid said:
I am waiting for my Robin to be delivered. I am really confused about the charger. Does it show anything on the screen when a proper quick charge 2 charger is used. Like, in my Nexus 5X when I use original charger it shows "charging rapidly" but when I use another charger it shows "charging" or "charging slowly" depending on the source.
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Yes, it shows the same charging messages as the Nexus.
WoodenMind said:
Yes, it shows the same charging messages as the Nexus.
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I ended up ordering a Nextbit charger.
jbarajasp said:
Will Quick Charging work with my Motorola Turbo charger if I use the Robin cable on it?
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I'm a year late, but yes it will (I tried it with a 15 watt, doesnt charge as fast as the Samsung Adaptive Fast Charging brick though)
palf91 said:
I'm not sure, but I've tested it with Aukey (wall) and Anker (car) chargers, both work fine with Quick Charge 2.0 speeds.
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Can you tell me the complete name of your wall charger please ?
RaiZProduction said:
Can you tell me the complete name of your wall charger please ?
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This one right here.
palf91 said:
This one right here.
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Nevermind
My Nextbit charges slowly no matter what . i have tried new cables and different adapters and outlets. Could it be a software issue ?
delvox said:
My Nextbit charges slowly no matter what . i have tried new cables and different adapters and outlets. Could it be a software issue ?
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What version of the os?
With a Qualcomm 3.0 charger and 3.0 cables, I get 2500ma speeds (12.5w). Only when charging from less than 50% though. The charging speed slows down as you approach 100%. The lock screen should say "charging rapidly" if it's working though.
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What version of the os?
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Android 7.1.1 with nextbits original firmware

does it use qc 3.0 or a LENOVO proprietary standard? read here....

from gsmarena:
We initially thought that the Rapid charging tech used by Lenovo must be Quick Charge 3.0 since the P2 uses a Qualcomm chipset. However, our third-party QC3.0 charger didn't charge the P2 particularly fast, so the jury is still out on whether Lenovo is using a proprietary charging technology.
so... my car charger and my power bank, BOTH qc 3.0 are useless with this phone??
Our charger is a basic 12V 2A charger, giving a total of 24W Power. I don't see anything special in the charger. It's probably not the usual QC we had heard of. I have seen in some reviews though about this charging technology being different and very interesting.
A problem would be: what charger for the car???
i have the phone and i can confirm it only uses the QC feature with the included CHARGER
no way to use any qc 2/3.0 charger....mmhhh bad decision lenovo!
realista87 said:
i have the phone and i can confirm it only uses the QC feature with the included CHARGER
no way to use any qc 2/3.0 charger....mmhhh bad decision lenovo!
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I don't see your point. This charger outperforms any other chargers in the market even turbo and dash chargers.
Why do you ppl always end up blaming others.
because i am against the proprietary charging algorithms..... dash charge is great? NOPE.... it forces you to use a special cable, a special charger, no 3rd part suppliers... high price of chargers, is it a good move for the customer?
same thing for this lenovo charging solution, ok the fastest one, but if i lose che official charger i am stucked with the NORMAL 5v 2a solution....
this is not a great thing imho, and all power banks i have qith 7/9/12v qc features are USELESS with the lenovo p2......
You're thinking only voltage my friend, check if your power bank can supply 2A at 12V. Probably no. Mostly all power banks bottlenecks at 1.5A.
So, there isn't a way to use another charger for fast charging?
Siva Mk said:
You're thinking only voltage my friend, check if your power bank can supply 2A at 12V. Probably no. Mostly all power banks bottlenecks at 1.5A.
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my xiaomi power bank 2 20000mah does have qc3.0 and it's tested to arrive higher than 2A at 12v ... but even if other chargers are "only" capable to reach 12v at 1,5A ... it is still a missed quick charge because p2 uses proprietary charge coding
ok this is not THEp roblem, but just a con. like for dash charge people repeat at eveyone that oneplus is the fastes... but hey without an available dach charge power bank... that phone is s "joke"
I have another QC3.0 wall charger, when i plug to P2 it's out put at 2A only not fast charge.
But when i plug original charger from P2 to another phone fsst charge status is become.
???
How many times will you open new topic for the same problem ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/accessories/replacement-charger-party-charger-t3662211

how to get more speed charging?

hi guys,
i have two chargers,
1. output 9.0V 1.67A or 5.0V 2.0A
2. output 5.2V 2.4A
and a usb-c cable, in the cable box i find that this cable is supporting for fast charging and support to 2.4A but when i tried it with the two chargers, and test it using 'ampere' app i got max to 1010mA with both chargers adapter ! even with this value i feel it charging my mobile quickly, and in the bottom of the lock screen i see 'charging rapidly' but i want more and why the phone is not charged depending on the values in the chargers (1.67A - 2.0A - 2.4A) and cable (2.4A)
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
sublimaze said:
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There's nothing I can help you guys with. All I can tell you is what ratings your charger should have, based upon the information printed on the pair of chargers I received with my device when I purchased it directly from Google. If you have a genuine Google charger and the P2XL is still not charging fast, contact Google.
stuff said:
Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
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Unfortunately, i hope someone could help
Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
pemz82 said:
I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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maybe your opinion is right. my next experiment is from 0% to 100% with the old charger and with the stock charger, then i will see if there is a difference
tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
nlinecomputers said:
There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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That makes sense then, it seems like everything gets more complicated every year.
I just purchased one of these from Amazon. Note that it supports Power Delivery 3.0. This unit quick charges my phone. The Moto Charger I have for my old Moto G5+ which is a Qualcomm charger will charge the phone but only at slow speeds.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H6BQNGF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
nlinecomputers said:
There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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i bought this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570
what do you think ?
If it is really the OEM parts that will work. The pictures look like mine, but ya know eBay....

Qiuk charge for mi a2 lite

Hello friends Can I use fast charge in this phone? Because chipset supports fast charging.
Thanks very much
hosein3831 said:
Hello friends Can I use fast charge in this phone? Because chipset supports fast charging.
Thanks very much
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Dear Hosein3831,
Hope You Are Doing Great !
Please Read The Mentioned Below Forum For Your Query Where You Can Get The Detail.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/help/quick-charge-support-t3831511
Have A Nice Day...
Mine came with a Xiaomi fast charger
hosein3831 said:
Hello friends Can I use fast charge in this phone? Because chipset supports fast charging.
Thanks very much
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I have 2 fast chargers in the house. Upstairs and downstairs, both are unbranded. Both chargers works flawless and i get the rapid charging status on both. One is fast charge 2.0 which charges my mi a2 lite fast and the other is quick charge 3.0 which charges the same amount of time as the 2.0.
Hope this helps.
I doubt any QC charger actually uses QC-Mode, they just use 2 Ampere at max like the charger which came with the device.
I could complain about some features of the phone, but charging time is none of them. IMO 2 hours for a full cycle are totally fine. My old Moto G4 (3000 mAh battery) used to charge 4 hours+ with the shipped charger, hehe.

Question Charge with low speed

Hi!
I have change my pixel 2 XL to buy OP 9 Pro. I charged P2XL with 5V/1A at night, so don't how much time stay charging.
Now I have read and Wrap charge uses 10V (OP9 Pro has a dual battery) and 6,6A but I wanted to charge it slowly. Do yo know it is correct to use an 5V/3A charger? (For exemple the P2XL original charger). I know that 5V/1A is too low for this OP.
Thanks!
LluisAzm said:
Hi!
I have change my pixel 2 XL to buy OP 9 Pro. I charged P2XL with 5V/1A at night, so don't how much time stay charging.
Now I have read and Wrap charge uses 10V (OP9 Pro has a dual battery) and 6,6A but I wanted to charge it slowly. Do yo know it is correct to use an 5V/3A charger? (For exemple the P2XL original charger). I know that 5V/1A is too low for this OP.
Thanks!
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You can use even slower charging, like the USB power from your laptop, starting with USB 3, which is 5V and 900mA (4,5W). USB 2 with 2,5W needs way longer to charge your 4,5 Ah battery.
A charger with 5V and 3A is fine, the max current could be cut down a bit by the phone, I didn't test it with a charger. Therefore you can use your P2XL charger.
Frankly, charging with 4,5W (USB 3) is fast enough, if you have your phone right next to your laptop all day. It chargers while I am using it and when it reaches 80%, tasker drops a notification and popup. Charging done.
I just got mine. Charged with 65w wall charger 0 to 100% in a little more than 25 minutes, (i did not noted the exact time). With the phone off.
Thank you for your replies!
I am many times with computer, really it's a good option to charge it at 0,9A. I have a some Chromecast's chargers at 5V/1A too.
If 5V/0,9-1A is correct, I think that only will use chargers of P2XL and OP9Pro when I need to charge in few minutes...
Thanks again!
LluisAzm said:
Thank you for your replies!
I am many times with computer, really it's a good option to charge it at 0,9A. I have a some Chromecast's chargers at 5V/1A too.
If 5V/0,9-1A is correct, I think that only will use chargers of P2XL and OP9Pro when I need to charge in few minutes...
Thanks again!
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You can also buy a "chargie" which pairs over Bluetooth and let's you limit the charge current and voltage to whatever you want. I use it to protect my battery lifespan
dkcats3 said:
You can also buy a "chargie" which pairs over Bluetooth and let's you limit the charge current and voltage to whatever you want. I use it to protect my battery lifespan
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Oh thanks! I didn't know it and is perfect to save battery.

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