how to get more speed charging? - Google Pixel 2 XL Questions & Answers

hi guys,
i have two chargers,
1. output 9.0V 1.67A or 5.0V 2.0A
2. output 5.2V 2.4A
and a usb-c cable, in the cable box i find that this cable is supporting for fast charging and support to 2.4A but when i tried it with the two chargers, and test it using 'ampere' app i got max to 1010mA with both chargers adapter ! even with this value i feel it charging my mobile quickly, and in the bottom of the lock screen i see 'charging rapidly' but i want more and why the phone is not charged depending on the values in the chargers (1.67A - 2.0A - 2.4A) and cable (2.4A)

The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.

You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?

sublimaze said:
You realize slow charging is better for the long-term life of the battery, right?
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Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The P2XL charger is 9V, 2A or 5V, 3A. Your amperage values are too low, which may explain why you're not charging as quickly as you should be. The solution: get a charger that equals or exceeds the stock charger ratings.
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After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.

Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There's nothing I can help you guys with. All I can tell you is what ratings your charger should have, based upon the information printed on the pair of chargers I received with my device when I purchased it directly from Google. If you have a genuine Google charger and the P2XL is still not charging fast, contact Google.

stuff said:
Considering we often get new phones every 2-3 years, you won't see much of a degradation from rapid/fast charging.
Rather, you'll see a degradation from charging from <15% to 100% (which people do often). That will be a more significant reason someones battery will lose much off its lifespan.
I wish Android would have a built in limiter. I'm sure in the next few years, both iOS and Android will.
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Unfortunately, i hope someone could help

Chouiyekh said:
hi friend,
i bought an original charger for my pixel 2 xl from ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570 and after testing it with ampere app i got the same value as my old charger, i got max 1010 mA, and i don't feel that there is a fast charging, it needs to the same time to charge my mobile as my old charger !
please help
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I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.

pemz82 said:
I thought that charging capped out at roughly 1000 mA when the screen is on to protect the battery from overheating/putting too much strain on it. Which could lead to degradation of the battery. That would explain why you only see 1010 mA on Ampere - because the screen is on. I don't think Ampere measures while the screen is off, so it is difficult to say what value it would be giving you.
That is my experience even using the stock charger that came with the phone.
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maybe your opinion is right. my next experiment is from 0% to 100% with the old charger and with the stock charger, then i will see if there is a difference

tbkrazeey said:
After seeing this I checked accubattery and it also says mine normally charges between 700 - 1010 mah also. I didn't even think about fast charging, I don't have the original charger but I have other "fast chargers" that don't seem to be doing their job either.
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There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.

nlinecomputers said:
There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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That makes sense then, it seems like everything gets more complicated every year.

I just purchased one of these from Amazon. Note that it supports Power Delivery 3.0. This unit quick charges my phone. The Moto Charger I have for my old Moto G5+ which is a Qualcomm charger will charge the phone but only at slow speeds.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07H6BQNGF/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

nlinecomputers said:
There is one other thing that you must also have. The Pixel does NOT support Qualcomm Fast Charging. It uses Power Delivery, not Quickcharge Technology. So if you have a charger that is labeled QuickCharge or a Moto Turbo Charger you will NOT get fast charging from these units. It has to be a Power Delivery charger with a USB C port and the cable must be USB-IF certified. If you don't have all of that then you don't get a fast charge.
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i bought this : http://www.ebay.com/itm/113109823570
what do you think ?

If it is really the OEM parts that will work. The pictures look like mine, but ya know eBay....

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[Q] Using a 5v USB Wall Charger on a Zenfone 2 with +9v battery?

I ordered the 4gb ram version of Zenfone 2 and it only comes with the "Boostmaster" quick charger that outputs 9v and 2A.
Also, I saw pictures where the visible part of the battery in the phone says "+9v 2A" on it.
I want to know is it safe to use a regular 5v USB charger to charge this phone if I do not want to use the quick charger?
I am not sure since I read through some websites and I am concerned about these quotes:
Too low voltage may do damage. Slightly too low may work AOK or at
reduced current. Too low may damage equipment but not usually. Too low
may damage charger but not usually.
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If the voltage is too low, you'll get either nothing, or odd / failure
behavior when the power draw on the system gets high.
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I'd be more worried about the undervoltage. It may put a strain on the
voltage regulator in your laptop and may also put a strain on your
battery
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So I want to know does the zenfone 2 has a special battery that allows lower voltage? Is its battery really a 9v battery?
I use a 5V charger, but the 2GB Zen has a 5.2V charger. There's nothing wrong with using weaker plugs, though the charge time is roughly 3-4hrs with the one I use.
"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"
I took the back off and the battery the, it says 5.2 v and 9v on it for input so I guess you can use either one on it
oh, I didn't know it says that on battery, I didn't receive my phone yet, but all the pictures I 've seen on reviews and when I googled the image, all I see on the battery is "Input +9v 2A, 18W"
does the US version have the extra 5.2v printed on the battery?
VietnamTom said:
oh, I didn't know it says that on battery, I didn't receive my phone yet, but all the pictures I 've seen on reviews and when I googled the image, all I see on the battery is "Input +9v 2A, 18W"
does the US version have the extra 5.2v printed on the battery?
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Yes. My 4GB model has both on it.
I've used a non QC charger on it and it worked fine. I mainly have QC's now so I use those when my phone doesn't have qi support. It chargers fine with the following Quick Charge 2.0 chargers: Aukey 10000mah battery pack, Asus boost master, Motorola Turbo, Incipio car charger, Power Partners 30w. I haven't had any issues charging it yet but it does get warm (battery hits 119 °F) using the Asus charger and cable.
Ive used multiple charging blocks that have 1 Amp and each time the charging stops at 77% and stays there overnight. This is kind of dumb I think. Anyone else having this issue when not using the stock charging block? Hmm it actually seems that this is happening on my cords that are 6 feet in length. The short cords are working fine
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Ive used multiple charging blocks that have 1 Amp and each time the charging stops at 77% and stays there overnight. This is kind of dumb I think. Anyone else having this issue when not using the stock charging block? Hmm it actually seems that this is happening on my cords that are 6 feet in length. The short cords are working fine
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Had issues with long cords before, mostly they would take ages to charge.
I'm using the stock Samsung Note 3/4 charger with no issue and the samsung cable.
It's easier to use than to unpack and find an Aussie adaptor for the ASUS charger....
Please see the following ASUS support page: "Introduction to quick charge"
http://www.asus.com/us/support/Sear...5-480F-AADA-FE49EDD81C01/?keyword=boostmaster
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA
VietnamTom said:
I ordered the 4gb ram version of Zenfone 2 and it only comes with the "Boostmaster" quick charger that outputs 9v and 2A.
Also, I saw pictures where the visible part of the battery in the phone says "+9v 2A" on it.
I want to know is it safe to use a regular 5v USB charger to charge this phone if I do not want to use the quick charger?
I am not sure since I read through some websites and I am concerned about these quotes:
So I want to know does the zenfone 2 has a special battery that allows lower voltage? Is its battery really a 9v battery?
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I've charged on other charger when I grabbed the wrong one, but it won't do a full charge. I can only get about 75% on standard charger. Plug in the fast charger and it charges right up.
it should be fairly okay else it wouldn't be safe to plug this device into sa normal USB port (5v)

Fast Charge

Hi guys, the Zenfone 3 deluxe supports qualcom quick charge 3.0 however it seems to be locked to the oem charger. Any other licenced qc 3.0 charger does not quick charge the phone. How hard would it be to get around this? Mainly for qc 3.0 powerbanks.
Huffy1 said:
Hi guys, the Zenfone 3 deluxe supports qualcom quick charge 3.0 however it seems to be locked to the oem charger. Any other licenced qc 3.0 charger does not quick charge the phone. How hard would it be to get around this? Mainly for qc 3.0 powerbanks.
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This is not true. I am using this one - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B01EH11AS8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and the quick charge 3.0 works fine. I am still using the original type-c cable that came with the phone though.
Note: Make sure that you have plugged in the USB end of the charger correctly, push it all the way in. If it's only pushed in partially, then you may not be getting the full power for Quick Charge. You can verify this by using a tool like AIDA64 from the playstore and checking the "Charge Rate" under battery.
This is where I was told it's not supported.
wap.ithome.com/html/262150.htm
Does it say Fast charging on the lock screen?
Huffy1 said:
This is where I was told it's not supported.
wap.ithome.com/html/262150.htm
Does it say Fast charging on the lock screen?
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Update: Sorry guys, I realized that the OEM charger is indeed much faster at charging. Read posts below.
postimg.org/image/6wis1rux1/ - using licenced qc3.0 charger
postimg.org/image/ndr13s0pv/ - using oem charger.
Further test screen off
15min charge with licenced qc3.0 gives 13%
15min charge with oem charger gives 27%
Same test with screen on (playing video)
15mins with either charger yields about 15%, no noticible difference. Seems like the oem charger throttles when screen is on.
All tests are run when the battery is below 20%.
Same oem cable used for all tests.
Using the oem charger to fully charge my phone does it nearly twice as fast as the qc3.0 charger.
Don't know how your able to achieve the same speed regardless of charger
Hi guys, I've been experiencing the same problem with original charger, that's very big and it's seems that didn't have quick charge. I've a samsung charger and with samsung charger it wroks fine. I'll try to well plug thw original , but, it's thinner samssung's one.
Huffy1 said:
postimg.org/image/6wis1rux1/ - using licenced qc3.0 charger
postimg.org/image/ndr13s0pv/ - using oem charger.
Further test screen off
15min charge with licenced qc3.0 gives 13%
15min charge with oem charger gives 27%
Same test with screen on (playing video)
15mins with either charger yields about 15%, no noticible difference. Seems like the oem charger throttles when screen is on.
All tests are run when the battery is below 20%.
Same oem cable used for all tests.
Using the oem charger to fully charge my phone does it nearly twice as fast as the qc3.0 charger.
Don't know how your able to achieve the same speed regardless of charger
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Interesting ... I stand corrected now regarding the "Fast Charging" on the lock screen.
I never used the original charger because I bought mine directly from Taiwan which has an US plug which I cannot use here in Germany directly without an extension.
I tried the OEM charger now with an adapter and yes you are right, the Charge Rate with the OEM charger is 2 times faster than with other chargrers.
OEM charger - 2900ma charge rate
Other charger - 1300ma charge rate
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Actually now I'm confused. When I plugged in the OEM charger, it said "Fast Charging" for a short while and then it says "Charging". The Charge rate also came down from 3000ma to 1300ma and down to 800ma when the battery is at 90%.
I will do some proper tests with the different chargers and post back.
Confirmed: OEM charger is much faster than other QC 3.0 chargers
When the phone reaches 70-80%, the charging rate will slow down and just trickle charge. This is normal as it can be dangerous to keep charging at Fast speeds when the battery is close to full capacity. So if your phone has 80% and you put it on charge, it will not Fast charge regardless of the charger you use.
Huffy1 said:
When the phone reaches 70-80%, the charging rate will slow down and just trickle charge. This is normal as it can be dangerous to keep charging at Fast speeds when the battery is close to full capacity. So if your phone has 80% and you put it on charge, it will not Fast charge regardless of the charger you use.
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Thanks for the information
I can also confirm fast charging doesn't work with my QC 2.0 charger. Interesting thing to note is it outputs 5V - 2A and 9V -2A. My guess is this charger from Asus that fast charges the Zenfone 2 would work on our phones because it has the same outputs if you read the description. It's worth a shot and you could always return it to Amazon if it doesn't work.
http://store.asus.com/us/item/20150...nFone+2+&+T100CHI+18W+Power+Adapter+and+Cable
Also sold at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Charger-Zenfone2-T100CHI-Retail-packaging/dp/B00XR0FBYK
It would be nice to remove the red light when the phone is charging. Maybe it's something that can only be removed after rooting?
pacattack81 said:
I can also confirm fast charging doesn't work with my QC 2.0 charger. Interesting thing to note is it outputs 5V - 2A and 9V -2A. My guess is this charger from Asus that fast charges the Zenfone 2 would work on our phones because it has the same outputs if you read the description. It's worth a shot and you could always return it to Amazon if it doesn't work.
http://store.asus.com/us/item/20150...nFone+2+&+T100CHI+18W+Power+Adapter+and+Cable
Also sold at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Charger-Zenfone2-T100CHI-Retail-packaging/dp/B00XR0FBYK
It would be nice to remove the red light when the phone is charging. Maybe it's something that can only be removed after rooting?
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Unfortunately, even though the charger referenced above has the same outputs it doesn't fast charge. Seems you can only fast charge with the included charger. At least we can use our own charging cable. If anyone gets another charger to fast charge the device let us know. It doesn't appear Asus sells the included charger on it's webpage yet.
Not allowing the standard quickcharge charger to work forces people to once again purchase / replace current QC chargers.
One tick to the CONs side of the evaluation.
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Not allowing the standard quickcharge charger to work forces people to once again purchase / replace current QC chargers.
One tick to the CONs side of the evaluation.
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At this moment, I don't really think it's a CON side...
The quality of all those QC2.x/3.x charger are not even today (may get better in future, however I really doubt those cheap, knock-off charger from China). Some are good, some are outright bad. QC is quite sensitive with the voltage/current delivered by the charger (it's by design of QC, I believe) and not optimum voltage/current will shorten the battery life at best, create danger at worst scenario.
LiPo battery is really not designed to be charged in high speed. The associated temperature issues needs to be check very carefully and charge current needs to be controlled strictly to avoid dangerous thermal runaway. It cannot only be done by phone itself and need co-work from adaptor (switching voltage, for instance.) Thus an adaptor which have good communication with phone is a safety requirement as far as QC is concerned.
Same with me. I bought a wall charger aukey PA-16 and a car charger Aukey CC-T8. Using the ampere APP, The original zenfone charger gets 2800 mAh. And the aukey chargers up to 1300 mAh.
K6 charger also does not enable Quick Charge function on 570KL
Input type: 100-240V 50-60Hz 0.5A - Quick charge 3.0 output: 3.6V-6.5V-3A/6.5V-9V-2A/9V-12V-1.5A - Power: 18W
I am wondering if someone achieved any solution to remove OEM charger lock to use fast charge with third party Qualcomm Certified Chargers/Power Banks?
Sorry to resume this thread but i lost my oem charger and id like to get one that works with the zenfone 3 deluxe and quickcharge. Can anyone post a link where i can buy it or maybe the model number of the charger? The EU version would be nice.
Thanks
Any solution to the original question?
pacattack81 said:
I can also confirm fast charging doesn't work with my QC 2.0 charger. Interesting thing to note is it outputs 5V - 2A and 9V -2A. My guess is this charger from Asus that fast charges the Zenfone 2 would work on our phones because it has the same outputs if you read the description. It's worth a shot and you could always return it to Amazon if it doesn't work.
http://store.asus.com/us/item/20150...nFone+2+&+T100CHI+18W+Power+Adapter+and+Cable
Also sold at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Charger-Zenfone2-T100CHI-Retail-packaging/dp/B00XR0FBYK
It would be nice to remove the red light when the phone is charging. Maybe it's something that can only be removed after rooting?
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ASUS locked the fast charge function to the OEM QC 2.0 charger that comes with the phone (it will NOT work even with other ASUS QC 2.0 - or 3.0 - chargers, only with the specific type/"model" that came with the phone). Therefore we don't get QC3.0 - as advertised - at all. The QC3.0 compatibility with 3rd party chargers, powerbanks and car chargers was disabled with one of the updates, I think it was the Android 7.0 Update (that replaced Android 6.0) that removed QC3 compatibility. So... any ideas how to re-enable the QC 3.0 functionality?
Quick charge was disabled for other chargers from day one. I'm still on marshmallow (Android 6.0) and only the charger that came with the phone works with quick charge.

45 Watt Charger Options

In the USA Samsung have a charging kit which includes a 45 watt charger. No sign of something similar in the UK. Anyone spotted the official or compatible charger. Thanks in advance.
Edit Sorry just seen another thread on this subject.
Any word of a mobile charger with the same wattage/charging power ?
USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
jah said:
USA Samsung store
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...t-charging-wall-charger-white-ep-ta845xwegus/
And 3rd part ones listed in this article
https://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-10-plus-45-watt-chargers-1017125/
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I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
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I wouldn't be surprised if the performance wasn't on par with the Samsung 45 watt charger due to lack of PPS . Still probably minuscule difference. Need some real world comparisons
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Some advice on Note 10+ fast chargers in this article:
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2019/08/samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-fast-charging.html
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
RR-99 said:
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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That's exactly what I've been thinking too. I don't even own a wireless charger, have no need for it. When I need to charge my phone I just charge it with the reg. charger or plug it in, in the car. The existing fast charge technology is fast enough. I added that above post seeing that there is much interest in this subject.
I've heard that the N10+ stock 25W brick takes only about 1 hour+ to go from 25% to full. The 50W charger is just another 'hype', in my opinion, created by the phone manufacturers to show-off that they are on top of the best technology there is. And, of course, to get some extra revenue.
Edit: some reviews say it gets really hot.
This says it uses PPS 2.0, do you guys think it's legit?
DBPOWER USB Type C Charger, USB-C Charger with Power Delivery 45W/60W USB Wall Charger for iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, iPad Air 2/Mini, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, Galaxy S9/S8, LG, Nexus, Pixel, and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FM8ZWY3/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_-GyxDbPDPKPR0
Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
mzsquared said:
Interestingly, a Sammoblile staffer writes about the 45W charger's flop:
https://www.sammobile.com/news/galaxy-note-10-plus-45w-charger-doesnt-offer-much-over-25w/
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"We weren’t able to test the 45W Super Fast charger ourselves, but on 25W, our Galaxy Note 10+ review unit went from 5% to 60% in 30 minutes with the device turned on and the screen turned off."
I just bought my 45W samsung charger via samsung using my reward points. Total cost is $5 (tax) that I have to pay for out of pocket. Worth it for me.
RR-99 said:
I just wonder how important a 45w charger is?
Personally my charge always lasts the day and I set my phone to charge overnight every night. It doesn't matter whether its on a 10w, 25w, or 45w charger - it will still be fully charged by morning.
What does a heavy, hot charge do to the life of the battery?
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Personally, I charge my device at least twice a day, more if I connect to my audio interface as that draws power from the phone. I also have the hotspot permanently turned on which can kill the battery really quickly.
Dont really care what it's doing to the battery as it'll be gone back to Samsung next year through the upgrade program.
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
I got the Ugreen 45w PD charger.
legrunt said:
Almost every article out there now states you need PPS for the super fast charging to kick in. Looking at the specs of that charger, it's all fixed voltages. Not surprised it didn't charge faster.
I'm wondering how the Aukey PA-Y13 will fare, since it does have continuously variable voltage (PPS) but not 10V 4.5A.
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Unfortunately even having a PPS charger doesn't do the trick - I have an AUKEY 60W charger with PPS and it is charging slower than the stock 25W
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ggrant3876 said:
Just read the Android Authority article on 45 watt chargers and decided to pick up this one. Once my battery has gone down I'll see how much better it is than the one provided in the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07PWC32ZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Didn't charge any faster than the one provided by Samsung.
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Yeah that item on amazon now has a note:
- This charger does not support 45W fast charging for Samsung Note 10.
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You should be able to use most usb C laptop chargers to get the 45W power output, but it also has to have PPS as far as what I have understood. The original one will work of course and it's always the recommended choice - tough you may ask yourself if you really need it.
I bought one for travelling. When flying I have moments that I really have to charge fast. And as it may not be perfect for the battery I will just use it when flying.
I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
Tidbits said:
I never heard of so much about longevity before the Note7. The way people talk about it like the battery won't even last a year by using faster charging options. I feel they wouldn't give it the option if it would greatly shorten the life of the battery. Makes me wonder if the Note7 never happened the way it did and this charging option we wouldn't be talking about battery health.
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I really would like to know more about it. I mostly buy a new one every year, and pass the "old" ones to my (grand)children.:angel:
So personally I am not interested in battery life
I bought a belkin QC4 PD charger. 27w. Chargers 50% in 35 mins. Don't buy cheap chinese crap and risk burning your house down.

Where to buy an extra OEM charger

I am looking to purchase an extra 18W charger, North American variant.
Is it available for purchase anywhere?
The only 18W charger I could find on Asus' store mentions being a notebook charger.
But it appears to be identical.
Having used OnePlus phones, I do miss how easy it was to purchase accessories on their website...
Thanks
Any QC3/QC4 charger will be ok.
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Any QC3/QC4 charger will be ok.
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Whats. The difference in quick charge 3 and 4 as far as speeds? The 5z had a 18w qc3 charger and the Zenfone 6 has a 18w qc4 charger..would the qc3 charge slower ?
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sedp23 said:
Whats. The difference in quick charge 3 and 4 as far as speeds? The 5z had a 18w qc3 charger and the Zenfone 6 has a 18w qc4 charger..would the qc3 charge slower ?
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I guess the original charger will be faster. Can you try and compare it?
I compared the two.
Note, that, presumably, because the OEM charger does not go up the maximum 20V of QC4 (only 9V) it is not actually a certified QC4 charger, despite using the standard.
Also, the power rating for QC4 isn't actually higher than QC3, it merely has finer voltage control, allowing for better efficiency.
Sidenote, funnily enough, my QC3 charger is two thirds the size of the ASUS downgraded QC4 charger...
I used ampere to measure current at 50% charge.
That said, I used a QC3 charger from my previous Mi Max 2, it definitely got picked up by the Zenfone 6, showing the two plusses in the battery icon. It reached a max current of 2.5A
The OEM charger reached a stable 3A.
A difference is certainly there, but my guess is it won't actually be THAT significant in the real world. Personally I always use two chargers, the OEM for fast topping up, when needed. And another really "crappy" (0.8A smartwatch charger) for overnight charging so that the majority of the charging I do stresses the battery as little as possible. No matter what Qualcomm likes to tell you, fast charging definitely shortens the lifespan of a battery, so while convenient, it's good to do it as little as possible.
If you REALLY want the fastest possible results, try and find a QC4 charger. Only a few actually exist to buy right now.
Otherwise you can get a QC3 charger, there are TONS of those, and you can actually get the pretty cheap too. You'll only lose 0.5A anyway.
You could probably also use a USB PD 3.0 charger, as QC4 is able to negotiate voltages with it as if it were a fully supported QC charger.
Edit. Tried charging with both from 55% to 71% (It just happened to be where I was at with one charger, then used a battery drainer to do the exact same charge).
The QC3 charger was one minute slower at 16 minutes, while the OEM did it in 15 minutes.

Question Charge with low speed

Hi!
I have change my pixel 2 XL to buy OP 9 Pro. I charged P2XL with 5V/1A at night, so don't how much time stay charging.
Now I have read and Wrap charge uses 10V (OP9 Pro has a dual battery) and 6,6A but I wanted to charge it slowly. Do yo know it is correct to use an 5V/3A charger? (For exemple the P2XL original charger). I know that 5V/1A is too low for this OP.
Thanks!
LluisAzm said:
Hi!
I have change my pixel 2 XL to buy OP 9 Pro. I charged P2XL with 5V/1A at night, so don't how much time stay charging.
Now I have read and Wrap charge uses 10V (OP9 Pro has a dual battery) and 6,6A but I wanted to charge it slowly. Do yo know it is correct to use an 5V/3A charger? (For exemple the P2XL original charger). I know that 5V/1A is too low for this OP.
Thanks!
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You can use even slower charging, like the USB power from your laptop, starting with USB 3, which is 5V and 900mA (4,5W). USB 2 with 2,5W needs way longer to charge your 4,5 Ah battery.
A charger with 5V and 3A is fine, the max current could be cut down a bit by the phone, I didn't test it with a charger. Therefore you can use your P2XL charger.
Frankly, charging with 4,5W (USB 3) is fast enough, if you have your phone right next to your laptop all day. It chargers while I am using it and when it reaches 80%, tasker drops a notification and popup. Charging done.
I just got mine. Charged with 65w wall charger 0 to 100% in a little more than 25 minutes, (i did not noted the exact time). With the phone off.
Thank you for your replies!
I am many times with computer, really it's a good option to charge it at 0,9A. I have a some Chromecast's chargers at 5V/1A too.
If 5V/0,9-1A is correct, I think that only will use chargers of P2XL and OP9Pro when I need to charge in few minutes...
Thanks again!
LluisAzm said:
Thank you for your replies!
I am many times with computer, really it's a good option to charge it at 0,9A. I have a some Chromecast's chargers at 5V/1A too.
If 5V/0,9-1A is correct, I think that only will use chargers of P2XL and OP9Pro when I need to charge in few minutes...
Thanks again!
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You can also buy a "chargie" which pairs over Bluetooth and let's you limit the charge current and voltage to whatever you want. I use it to protect my battery lifespan
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You can also buy a "chargie" which pairs over Bluetooth and let's you limit the charge current and voltage to whatever you want. I use it to protect my battery lifespan
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Oh thanks! I didn't know it and is perfect to save battery.

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