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[S-OFF] Possible!! how to?

hi, I have been reading a lot about S-OFF how to, but I've read too much & I'm kinda confused right now, can someone help me through if I can get S-OFF, & post me link for the thread I have to read & do exactly.
is it even possible yet?
if not, then what all those threads are talking about?
& if it helps, this's the one X I have
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No there is still no way to get S-Off on the HOX. The only way to install a custom rom is via HTCdev but then you'll lose the warranty.

duk3r said:
No there is still no way to get S-Off on the HOX. The only way to install a custom rom is via HTCdev but then you'll lose the warranty.
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R U sure about HTCdev???? I'm not talking about bootloader off, I'm talking about S-OFF

mehras1991 said:
hi, I have been reading a lot about S-OFF how to, but I've read too much & I'm kinda confused right now, can someone help me through if I can get S-OFF, & post me link for the thread I have to read & do exactly.
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If you read about S-Off on the correct forums (i.e related to One X) then you would know that its not possible yet.
mehras1991 said:
is it even possible yet?
if not, then what all those threads are talking about?
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What threads ?? Read this and this to find out the current progress in obtaining S-OFF.

PhoenixFx said:
If you read about S-Off on the correct forums (i.e related to One X) then you would know that its not possible yet.
What threads ?? Read this and this to find out the current progress in obtaining S-OFF.
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thanks,
so what flashing files on this thread does?
sory if I'm asking basic questions, I moved from motorola & I didn't have such problem on their devices

mehras1991 said:
thanks,
so what flashing files on this thread does?
sory if I'm asking basic questions, I moved from motorola & I didn't have such problem on their devices
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Ignore that thread, don't flash the files. It's for people who know what they're doing. Like it says, bricking is possible.
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Ok. I am a noob and a little confused.
So, if I root, I get access to entire operating system files. This enables me to make a full back-up of my phone. Am I right in assuming that I can root without unlocking the bootloader?
If I unlock the bootloader, I am able to load another version of android made by Cynagenmod and others. Can I unlock the bootloader without root or when I unlock it from HTC Dev, it roots my phone automatically? Also, if I do not load any other ROM, will I still be able to get HTC updates?
Where in all this is S-off? I understand that while unlocking the bootloader, HTC Dev still has some locked parts of the OS which is inaccessible due to S-on, but when we root the phone, doesn't it provide access to the locked partitions/files?
Apologies for the basic questions, would appreciate all help.

akhileshp said:
Ok. I am a noob and a little confused.
So, if I root, I get access to entire operating system files. This enables me to make a full back-up of my phone. Am I right in assuming that I can root without unlocking the bootloader?
If I unlock the bootloader, I am able to load another version of android made by Cynagenmod and others. Can I unlock the bootloader without root or when I unlock it from HTC Dev, it roots my phone automatically? Also, if I do not load any other ROM, will I still be able to get HTC updates?
Where in all this is S-off? I understand that while unlocking the bootloader, HTC Dev still has some locked parts of the OS which is inaccessible due to S-on, but when we root the phone, doesn't it provide access to the locked partitions/files?
Apologies for the basic questions, would appreciate all help.
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You can't root yet without unlocking bootloader. You can load other versions of Android (there is no official Cyanogenmod yet, but there are quite a few CM9 and AOKP builds in the dev sections). Unlocking via HTCdev does not auto-root. You can relock after unlocking to get official updates.
Rooting doesn't give us access to being able to write to these partitions. That's what we want from S-OFF.

ZrC said:
You can't root yet without unlocking bootloader. You can load other versions of Android (there is no official Cyanogenmod yet, but there are quite a few CM9 and AOKP builds in the dev sections). Unlocking via HTCdev does not auto-root. You can relock after unlocking to get official updates.
Rooting doesn't give us access to being able to write to these partitions. That's what we want from S-OFF.
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Thank you so much. Much appreciated.
So to confirm, I have to unlock the bootloader from HTC Dev first, then try the method at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167 to root. I may not want to load the other custom builds right now, I'm still waiting for the Jb/4.0.4 update and also my warranty to run out. In the meantime, figuring out what is what and how it works, although I doubt I will be able to wait out another 9 months.

akhileshp said:
Thank you so much. Much appreciated.
So to confirm, I have to unlock the bootloader from HTC Dev first, then try the method at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167 to root. I may not want to load the other custom builds right now, I'm still waiting for the Jb/4.0.4 update and also my warranty to run out. In the meantime, figuring out what is what and how it works, although I doubt I will be able to wait out another 9 months.
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Firstly, HTCdev unlock will void the warranty, you can search other threads for this. Secondly, that thread is for the HTC One XL (Qualcomm Snapdragon LTE), which is a completely different model to the international HOX (Tegra 3), so you don't want to use that. Here's the correct thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577671
HTCdev unlock also wipes your phone, so you might as well load up a new rom which is already rooted.
Also, if you do decide to HTCdev unlock, make sure you load a new recovery up.I recommend CWM recovery, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1594819
Immediately after you do that, take a backup from CWM recovery.

ZrC said:
Firstly, HTCdev unlock will void the warranty, you can search other threads for this. Secondly, that thread is for the HTC One XL (Qualcomm Snapdragon LTE), which is a completely different model to the international HOX (Tegra 3), so you don't want to use that.
HTCdev unlock also wipes your phone, so you might as well load up a new rom which is already rooted.
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Yup, read about the void warranty bit. And I also noticed that the thread is headed for the One XL, however, it still does show up in the home page of the International One X.
And I get the point about the new ROM. Given I have no hw problems with my phone and i've had it since early april, i reckon I might unlock it this wknd and load up another rom. Thanks again.

akhileshp said:
Yup, read about the void warranty bit. And I also noticed that the thread is headed for the One XL, however, it still does show up in the home page of the International One X.
And I get the point about the new ROM. Given I have no hw problems with my phone and i've had it since early april, i reckon I might unlock it this wknd and load up another rom. Thanks again.
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I edited my last post with some more helpful info.

Can I convert to GPE?

Alright everyone, I did search for a similar topic before creating this thread, but I found none. If I missed it, please link me to it. Thanks!
So I'm about to trade my T-Mobile LG G3 for a T-Mobile HTC One M8. I'd like to convert it over to a GPE. Are there any specific things that I have to know about the device (software version etc.) before I make the trade?
For example, was there a recent software update that stopped us from being able to convert it into a GPE device?
Thanks in advance guys. I really appreciate it.

ZenithHammerhead said:
Alright everyone, I did search for a similar topic before creating this thread, but I found none. If I missed it, please link me to it. Thanks!
So I'm about to trade my T-Mobile LG G3 for a T-Mobile HTC One M8. I'd like to convert it over to a GPE. Are there any specific things that I have to know about the device (software version etc.) before I make the trade?
For example, was there a recent software update that stopped us from being able to convert it into a GPE device?
Thanks in advance guys. I really appreciate it.
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Not sure about a software update preventing it. So long as you can achieve S-Off, I believe it can be converted. I did mine some time ago, found that I missed Sense 6 a lot and my signal strength was pretty low. Radios from GPE are compatible with T-Mobile LTE but the GPE system doesn't work as well with T-mobile signal. Even tried changing radios, no luck. I'd suggest trying a GPE rom that you can flash over the standard rom to see if you like it. Its much easier to flash a sense rom back to the phone than it is to convert a GPE'd phone back to sense.

phil.culler said:
Not sure about a software update preventing it. So long as you can achieve S-Off, I believe it can be converted. I did mine some time ago, found that I missed Sense 6 a lot and my signal strength was pretty low. Radios from GPE are compatible with T-Mobile LTE but the GPE system doesn't work as well with T-mobile signal. Even tried changing radios, no luck. I'd suggest trying a GPE rom that you can flash over the standard rom to see if you like it. Its much easier to flash a sense rom back to the phone than it is to convert a GPE'd phone back to sense.
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Got it. If memory serves, you can go to the HTC site and request the bootloader be unlocked, correct? So as far as rooting and unlocking the bootloader, it's a walk in the park, no matter the software version, right?

ZenithHammerhead said:
Got it. If memory serves, you can go to the HTC site and request the bootloader be unlocked, correct? So as far as rooting and unlocking the bootloader, it's a walk in the park, no matter the software version, right?
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Yes you can unlock the bootloader through HTCDEV. When you go through the process make sure to choose "all other devices" instead of One (M8). I had trouble with my code until I chose all other devices. Might be fixed by now. I believe to root you have to have S-Off which is only possible through Sunshine unless something has changed. Sunshine will cost you $25. There may be a method of rooting which will allow you bypass S-Off now. Haven't looked into it for a while.

phil.culler said:
Yes you can unlock the bootloader through HTCDEV. When you go through the process make sure to choose "all other devices" instead of One (M8). I had trouble with my code until I chose all other devices. Might be fixed by now. I believe to root you have to have S-Off which is only possible through Sunshine unless something has changed. Sunshine will cost you $25. There may be a method of rooting which will allow you bypass S-Off now. Haven't looked into it for a while.
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Fantastic. You sir are the reason why XDA has such a great reputation. :good:

ZenithHammerhead said:
Fantastic. You sir are the reason why XDA has such a great reputation. :good:
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Just doing my part, and trying my best. Most of all, I refuse to answer a question with "OMG this has been answered eleventy-million times!!! USE GOOGLE!!!" Not saying your question was answered before, just having a vent.
In case you're interested, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589 is the thread I used to make my conversion and it worked exactly as they said it would. Just try a GPE rom first before you do the full conversion. I was sure I would like GPE much better than sense...and I was as wrong as I could be.

better reception trick

Ever since I got my m9's I have been a flashing fool! I absolutely love it. But I recently learned a trick to improve my reception so I decided I would share.
I live in a city and my reception should always be 5 bars but ever since I got my phones I was only getting 3 bars max regardless of firmware or rom. I know because I have flashed them all. I have a developers edition and an AT&T edition m9 and both phones got the same reception.
well about a month ago I just wanted to try an experiment so I took my att m9 and changed the cid and mid to match a tmoble version. I then flashed the 1.32 firmware and then ran the tmobile Ruu. As a result I then had a stock t-mobile edition m9. But for the first time I had full bars for my reception!
Naturally I then flashed twrp and put a cutom rom back on it but I had the volte and wifi calling along with full bars reception. So put I that observation in the back of my mind and carried on with my business.
Well recently the tmobile update came out and I just flashed the firmware package that sneakyghost (thanks btw for your firmware files) put up and updated the custom rom I was on. But I noticed immediately afterwards my reception returned to 2-3 bars again. I really didn't care too much but then the rom I was using started acting funny. The developer decided to mess with the cpu cores on his update and in extreme power save mode over night it would eat 10% of my battery. And that is something I can't tolerate...
So, I decided to run the 1.32 tmobile (that's my carrier) RUU on my m9 and then accept the 2.7 ota. My reception then returned to 100%. after that I reflashed twrp and super su and restored all my data.
I told my wife about the reception and she wanted me to do the same on her phone (the dev edition) and so I did and got the same results....
So moral of this long post is that if you have poor reception than flashing an ruu for your carrier just might be the trick. This in return will save battery life.
If you decide to try it let me know if it worked. Thanks
This is the link with instructions on how to change your phone from one carrier to another. clsA gives instructions to convert ATT model to developer edition. But you can change your cid to whatever you carrier is and flash accordingly.
Tmobile cid= T-MOB010
At&T and develop edition cid can be found in the link. Also make sure your mid match the firmware you flash. Tmobile mid is 0PJA12000

bigp951 said:
Ever since I got my m9's I have been a flashing fool! I absolutely love it. But I recently learned a trick to improve my reception so I decided I would share.
I live in a city and my reception should always be 5 bars but ever since I got my phones I was only getting 3 bars max regardless of firmware or rom. I know because I have flashed them all. I have a developers edition and an AT&T edition m9 and both phones got the same reception.
So moral of this long post is that if you have poor reception than flashing an ruu for your carrier just might be the trick. This in return will save battery life.
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I noticed my reception also being worse than my Galaxy S5. In fact, when I woke up I found that my phone was roaming! I never had that issue with the S5. I found it strange. Wi-Fi signal also isn't as good as on the S5. I don't know if it's all the metal or the terrible Snapdragon 810.
I wish your method involved changing something in build.prop lol, that would be simpler and quicker. I'm on a custom ROM also, not by my own will but because I bought the phone like that, I have no idea how to go back to stock AT&T without root and to be able to accept OTAs. I am S-On right now.

Ramsey said:
I noticed my reception also being worse than my Galaxy S5. In fact, when I woke up I found that my phone was roaming! I never had that issue with the S5. I found it strange. Wi-Fi signal also isn't as good as on the S5. I don't know if it's all the metal or the terrible Snapdragon 810.
I wish your method involved changing something in build.prop lol, that would be simpler and quicker. I'm on a custom ROM also, not by my own will but because I bought the phone like that, I have no idea how to go back to stock AT&T without root and to be able to accept OTAs. I am S-On right now.
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There are a ton of excellent guides in the forum to either change ROMs or return to stock. I think you have to be s-off though. When I want to return to stock I just run an RUU. but remember to back up everything you want to keep because the phone will be completely wiped

bigp951 said:
There are a ton of excellent guides in the forum to either change ROMs or return to stock. I think you have to be s-off though. When I want to return to stock I just run an RUU. but remember to back up everything you want to keep because the phone will be completely wiped
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I can't find any good guide here for the M9. Weird huh? I've been here since 2008, read countless excellent guides for many phones, and let me tell you that in the past guides were clear and informative. Now all I see is people writing random text all over the place, no clear steps, and information isn't always updated. Probably younger people are writing them, no problem, but it's not helping me understand how to do it.
There's a guide that still says that HTC hasn't yet allowed the bootloader to be unlocked for the M9, and yet when you go there you realize that HTC allows us to unlock it now.
Anyways, my point is, I can't find a good guide, it's not that I'm being prideful, it's just that I have indeed searched and can't find a clear guide. I'm not sure if most assume we have to be S-off? In the past people used to mention "you have to be rooted, or unrooted, or unlocked bootloader, or S-on or S-off". Now it's not very clear so I'm confused, especially since those guides have so many links that I don't know what to download and each is 2GB. You're not the first to tell me that xda has many excellent guides without pointing me to one for the M9 haha.
I want a better reception among other things as it worries me that it was roaming out of nowhere and I'd love to go back to stock as I am not a fan of custom ROMs (except for on my 2010 Galaxy S1 lol).
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
I tried to run an RUU for AT&T latest Android 5.1 (when I was running stock 1.32) and it failed many times, even though I unrooted and locked bootloader. I miss the days of ODIN flashing in download mode =(.
I'm happy the ROM I'm using is stable but still.

Ramsey said:
I can't find any good guide here for the M9. Weird huh? I've been here since 2008, read countless excellent guides for many phones, and let me tell you that in the past guides were clear and informative. Now all I see is people writing random text all over the place, no clear steps, and information isn't always updated. Probably younger people are writing them, no problem, but it's not helping me understand how to do it.
There's a guide that still says that HTC hasn't yet allowed the bootloader to be unlocked for the M9, and yet when you go there you realize that HTC allows us to unlock it now.
Anyways, my point is, I can't find a good guide, it's not that I'm being prideful, it's just that I have indeed searched and can't find a clear guide. I'm not sure if most assume we have to be S-off? In the past people used to mention "you have to be rooted, or unrooted, or unlocked bootloader, or S-on or S-off". Now it's not very clear so I'm confused, especially since those guides have so many links that I don't know what to download and each is 2GB. You're not the first to tell me that xda has many excellent guides without pointing me to one for the M9 haha.
I want a better reception among other things as it worries me that it was roaming out of nowhere and I'd love to go back to stock as I am not a fan of custom ROMs (except for on my 2010 Galaxy S1 lol).
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
I tried to run an RUU for AT&T latest Android 5.1 (when I was running stock 1.32) and it failed many times, even though I unrooted and locked bootloader. I miss the days of ODIN flashing in download mode =(.
I'm happy the ROM I'm using is stable but still.
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I can see where you think my guide has a lot of links, but all you need to do is determine what your phone is now and choose the correct link for your device. To figure out your current Firmware just reboot your phone to download mode and it tells your OS version right their.
now you know your version download the one your on now or a newer version and RUU back to stock, It's actually easier than Odin
Read my entire instructions to convert to developer edition and you'll see it's not all that hard.
S-off is a pretty vital step if you plan on flashing your phone much at all, and is well worth the $25 price. But it's not needed if you just want your AT&T phone back to stock. Just lock the bootloader (fastboot oem lock). and Run the RUU.exe and your done you have a stock phone.
If your worried about the modified status you'll have to pay for the s-off to remove it.

clsA said:
I can see where you think my guide has a lot of links, but all you need to do is determine what your phone is now and choose the correct link for your device. To figure out your current Firmware just reboot your phone to download mode and it tells your OS version right their.
now you know your version download the one your on now or a newer version and RUU back to stock, It's actually easier than Odin
Read my entire instructions to convert to developer edition and you'll see it's not all that hard.
S-off is a pretty vital step if you plan on flashing your phone much at all, and is well worth the $25 price. But it's not needed if you just want your AT&T phone back to stock. Just lock the bootloader (fastboot oem lock). and Run the RUU.exe and your done you have a stock phone.
If your worried about the modified status you'll have to pay for the s-off to remove it.
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Thanks for the answer. I saw yours a week ago and I skimmed through it and since it needs S-Off, I kept it for later. I have a question for you and I'll PM you if that's fine as I don't want to take over this thread.

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and is well worth the $25 price.
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S-off is only $25 now? Dang I paid 50 for each phone.

Ramsey said:
I have to admit this is the most confusing phone when it comes to modding it or removing root to OTA.
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cLSA is very knowledgeable on the m9. When I first made the swith from Samsung to HTC I didn't know jack. But in the past few months I have realized the m9 is the easiest phone to customize that I've ever owned. If cLSA can't help you (I'm sure he's a busy guy) than I'm sure I could. I'm moving and dont have internet yet (right now I'm typing from my phone) but I can always turn on my hotspot and lend a hand.
First thing I recommend doing is to make sure you're adb and fastboot are updated to the latest version. Also make sure you have ever all the right drivers installed.
I'd also recommend getting s-off. Just makes life easier knowing you can flash anything you want (including older firmware). And if a stock phone is what you want than you can turn it back on
If your adb is working then with you phone plugged in and USB debugging clicked open a command prompt (as administrator) and type adb devices. You should then look at Your phone and grant the phone adb privelages. Following that you should see your phones serial number on your pc.
If you see that adb is installed properly, if not then go back and install adb properly. Pm me if you want me to walk you through anything.

"System update available"

Hi,
terribly sorry to bother you guys!
I recently bought an M9 (Belgium, no carrier) and rooted it with the help of this youtube video /watch?v=rOHN8byHAzk
works fine, it's rooted.
The thing is: i did updates before doing the root, as i unlocked bootloader everything was lost/deleted, at the time (4a.m), with my brain half asleep i didn't think about doing the updates again before performing the actual root. Now i keep getting the "system update available" message and can't get rid of it.
It'll keep popping up every few hours, obviously i can't install them because i arrive back at twrp recovery.
Android version 5.0.2
Kernel version 3.10.49-g5c16a62
I turned software updates off in the "about" section in settings, to no avail. I keep getting the message that updates are available. Downloading them and then proceeding to remove the downloaded files don't solve it.
I'm a total noob at this, but (hopefully) not a complete idiot. If there are any steps i can take to get rid of this constantly popping up, please advise me:fingers-crossed:

There's more than one possibility to proceed. Could you provide the output of the "htc_fastboot getvar all" command, when M9 is in download mode (without IMEI and Serial no.). I'd like to point you into the right direction.
Send by the swarm intelligence of my coffee machine ?.

Thanks for taking the time!
It's in download mode, i've got my command prompt open but it says "htc_fastboot is not recognized as an internal or external command, program or batchfile"

In all honesty just pay for s-off and you can flash an unsigned zip and be done with it.
Otherwise you need to get back to official status to flash the update. Pita to be honest.
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shivadow said:
In all honesty just pay for s-off and you can flash an unsigned zip and be done with it.
Otherwise you need to get back to official status to flash the update. Pita to be honest.
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*sigh*
I'm going to take a few days off of work and try to educate myself on how all of this works exactly because i'm starting to feel like i just came out of the stone age. Honestly, i just rooted my last phone through good old towelroot without ever having to touch or change anything else. I should not have touched stuff i know nothing of to begin with.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to reply, i'm gonna find some sites to teach me more about this, if you have anything that could help me, feel free to share, because i literally know 0.

Fatimiyye said:
*sigh*
I'm going to take a few days off of work and try to educate myself on how all of this works exactly because i'm starting to feel like i just came out of the stone age. Honestly, i just rooted my last phone through good old towelroot without ever having to touch or change anything else. I should not have touched stuff i know nothing of to begin with.
I appreciate you guys taking the time to reply, i'm gonna find some sites to teach me more about this, if you have anything that could help me, feel free to share, because i literally know 0.
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Basically, there is a safety feature in HTC otas now that prevents them from running unless your phone is 100% stock. So being rooted, it won't run. There are only two ways forward, find the RUU files for your carrier and install them, or get s-off and update manually. There are multiple threads on how to do all this in the General forum. Read there before doing anything else. HTC phones work differently from other handsets that have to be hacked to achieve root. There is an official path, but how you do it matters.

iElvis said:
Basically, there is a safety feature in HTC otas now that prevents them from running unless your phone is 100% stock. So being rooted, it won't run. There are only two ways forward, find the RUU files for your carrier and install them, or get s-off and update manually. There are multiple threads on how to do all this in the General forum. Read there before doing anything else. HTC phones work differently from other handsets that have to be hacked to achieve root. There is an official path, but how you do it matters.
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Thank you very much man. I'm gonna learn up first, and then take your advice and head to the general forum.
For all other noobs who are desperate to catch up, this is helping me out quite a bit:
http://androidforums.com/threads/how-to-and-some-root-terminology.353591/ => Terminology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOHN8byHAzk => Unlock bootloader and root the phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979 => This helps to install ADB/fastboot/drivers
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...on-htc-android-phones-with-unrevoked-forever/ => some info about s-off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59745198&postcount=3 => HTC One M9 FAQ
Edit: OH, AND THIS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
FFS, WATCH THAT ONE!

Just in case anyone has the same issue (i like to end on a positive note =D ) :
The easiest working solution i found for the issue is to go to the Apps management (Settings, apps), go to "All", select "Updater" and then clear data.
No pop ups so far.
Credit for this goes to moderator Earlymon from androidforums

Verizon HTC 10 - TWRP/Custom ROM

Hi guys. I purchased this phone used. IDK if it will have Android 6 or 7 installed on it. I know that it's supposed to be carrier unlocked. My goal is to get this rooted and get TWRP so I can install ViperRom.
Do these steps still apply:
1) Unlock your phone with htcdev.com or s-off it with sunshine http://theroot.ninja (using built in temproot)
2) flash latest twrp from http://twrp.me
3) Using adb, in twrp run - adb shell "echo KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true>>/data/.supersu"
4) flash latest supersu from http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps...v2-05-t2868133
My understanding is that the Verizon variant would require SunShine app (regardless of whether I'm on Android 6 or 7) and I can't use HTCdev to unlock the bootloader. Can someone please advise what my best course of action is to get TWRP and a custom rom on this thing?

SantinoInc said:
Hi guys. I purchased this phone used. IDK if it will have Android 6 or 7 installed on it. I know that it's supposed to be carrier unlocked. My goal is to get this rooted and get TWRP so I can install ViperRom.
Do these steps still apply:
1) Unlock your phone with htcdev.com or s-off it with sunshine http://theroot.ninja (using built in temproot)
2) flash latest twrp from http://twrp.me
3) Using adb, in twrp run - adb shell "echo KEEPFORCEENCRYPT=true>>/data/.supersu"
4) flash latest supersu from http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps...v2-05-t2868133
My understanding is that the Verizon variant would require SunShine app (regardless of whether I'm on Android 6 or 7) and I can't use HTCdev to unlock the bootloader. Can someone please advise what my best course of action is to get TWRP and a custom rom on this thing?
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Verizon disables oem unlocking, so you'd need to S-off your device to do any sort of tinkering. From there you won't need to unlock the bootloader, s-off allows you to do everything you need. With that said, if the phone is on Nougat, the only way to s-off is to mail your device to the Sunshine dev. The app won't work for you in that case. If on Marshmallow, you can use the app.
Step 2 is correct, and I don't think you need to step 3 anymore. Just flash whichever rom you need, and they are already rooted so no need to install supersu separately.
Leedroid and ViperROM are probably the most popular Sense-based roms, each with lots of customization options.

Tarima said:
Verizon disables oem unlocking, so you'd need to S-off your device to do any sort of tinkering. From there you won't need to unlock the bootloader, s-off allows you to do everything you need. With that said, if the phone is on Nougat, the only way to s-off is to mail your device to the Sunshine dev. The app won't work for you in that case. If on Marshmallow, you can use the app.
Step 2 is correct, and I don't think you need to step 3 anymore. Just flash whichever rom you need, and they are already rooted so no need to install supersu separately.
Leedroid and ViperROM are probably the most popular Sense-based roms, each with lots of customization options.
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Thanks 4 the assistance!

SantinoInc said:
Thanks 4 the assistance!
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No problem, hope for you that it's not on Nougat when you get it.

Tarima said:
No problem, hope for you that it's not on Nougat when you get it.
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I have a bad phone obsession. I'm probably downgrading anyway (on Xiaomi Mi Mix) If the phone I purchased is on Nougat I'm going to sell it. Only paid $250 for it so I can probably make a small profit

SantinoInc said:
I have a bad phone obsession. I'm probably downgrading anyway (on Xiaomi Mi Mix) If the phone I purchased is on Nougat I'm going to sell it. Only paid $250 for it so I can probably make a small profit
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$250? If it's in good condition that's a steal. At that price it's definitely worth paying the extra shipping cost to send the phone to s-off. Those guys are pretty trustworthy if that's something you're worried about.
Fantastic well rounded device if you decide to keep it.

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$250? If it's in good condition that's a steal. At that price it's definitely worth paying the extra shipping cost to send the phone to s-off. Those guys are pretty trustworthy if that's something you're worried about.
Fantastic well rounded device if you decide to keep it.
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Hey, one question I forgot to ask...
So I need SunShine for S-Off but can I keep the phone S-On and use HTC Dev method so I can still get TWRP?

SantinoInc said:
Hey, one question I forgot to ask...
So I need SunShine for S-Off but can I keep the phone S-On and use HTC Dev method so I can still get TWRP?
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No that's what I meant by "verizon disables oem unlocking". HTC Dev unlock = oem unlock = unlocking the bootloader
With the Verizon 10, the only way to flash twrp or anything else is to have s-off. On non-verizon devices, you'd be able to do what you asked.

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No that's what I meant by "verizon disables oem unlocking". HTC Dev unlock = oem unlock = unlocking the bootloader
With the Verizon 10, the only way to flash twrp or anything else is to have s-off. On non-verizon devices, you'd be able to do what you asked.
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Ok, thanks for the clarification. I assumed that. Looking forward to getting this today and comparing it to my Mi Mix. Always liked HTC phones

Please help, I am coming from t mobile to verizon.. and need to buy a phone in the next day or two. I am at a lose to which to buy. If I purchase the HTC 10, what is S - off and what would it entail. I am stuck getting a verizon, in your opinion, which phone should I purchase thats root-able.

kevinchristopherson said:
Please help, I am coming from t mobile to verizon.. and need to buy a phone in the next day or two. I am at a lose to which to buy. If I purchase the HTC 10, what is S - off and what would it entail. I am stuck getting a verizon, in your opinion, which phone should I purchase thats root-able.
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Are you interested in tinkering with your phone, installing different software on it? If the answer is no, just go to Verizon and buy the 10 or whichever phone you want.
Edit: Just saw that you want to root.
The situation with the Verizon 10 is described in this thread. If you want to root the thing, you absolutely need S-off ("security off"). If the phone you receive is on Nougat, you have to mail it in for S-Off for 25$. If on marshmallow, you can do it via an app that also costs 25$.

Tarima said:
Are you interested in tinkering with your phone, installing different software on it? If the answer is no, just go to Verizon and buy the 10 or whichever phone you want.
Edit: Just saw that you want to root.
The situation with the Verizon 10 is described in this thread. If you want to root the thing, you absolutely need S-off ("security off"). If the phone you receive is on Nougat, you have to mail it in for S-Off for 25$. If on marshmallow, you can do it via an app that also costs 25$.
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So this may be the one I'll enjoy the most, 25 dollars for s-off wont hurt me that much. I have to get my phone from Verizon and tinkering with it often is kind of my thing. I appreciate your input, So far this sounds like what I'm looking for. thanks again.

Tarima said:
Are you interested in tinkering with your phone, installing different software on it? If the answer is no, just go to Verizon and buy the 10 or whichever phone you want.
Edit: Just saw that you want to root.
The situation with the Verizon 10 is described in this thread. If you want to root the thing, you absolutely need S-off ("security off"). If the phone you receive is on Nougat, you have to mail it in for S-Off for 25$. If on marshmallow, you can do it via an app that also costs 25$.
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No problem, for S-Off the app is called Sunshine, you can go on their website and get support there. The same guys will do it by mail in.

Verizon HTC 10 Root Updates?
Hello,
Newb here...new to Androids and new to looking into rooting/tinkering with ROMs. Is there any update on the current state of rooting the Verizon variant of this great phone? I'm on Nougat 7.0 (2.41.605.20) and I am using the phone on the AT&T Network :laugh: I am; however, not happy with the issues with 4G lte that the newest 2.41.xxx is causing. I am wanting to flash Viper 10; as I understand it really optimizes this phone well.
I really do not want to S-Off (I am an Information Security Professional and this speaks against the principles I work by :angel: . Do we know of any way to do this other than sending it to Sunshine? There has to have been some strides in the past 3 1/2 months, right?
Thanks

agbq2002 said:
Hello,
Newb here...new to Androids and new to looking into rooting/tinkering with ROMs. Is there any update on the current state of rooting the Verizon variant of this great phone? I'm on Nougat 7.0 (2.41.605.20) and I am using the phone on the AT&T Network :laugh: I am; however, not happy with the issues with 4G lte that the newest 2.41.xxx is causing. I am wanting to flash Viper 10; as I understand it really optimizes this phone well.
I really do not want to S-Off (I am an Information Security Professional and this speaks against the principles I work by :angel: . Do we know of any way to do this other than sending it to Sunshine? There has to have been some strides in the past 3 1/2 months, right?
Thanks
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There's no way to root or flash roms besides getting S-OFF.

agbq2002 said:
Hello,
Newb here...new to Androids and new to looking into rooting/tinkering with ROMs. Is there any update on the current state of rooting the Verizon variant of this great phone? I'm on Nougat 7.0 (2.41.605.20) and I am using the phone on the AT&T Network :laugh: I am; however, not happy with the issues with 4G lte that the newest 2.41.xxx is causing. I am wanting to flash Viper 10; as I understand it really optimizes this phone well.
I really do not want to S-Off (I am an Information Security Professional and this speaks against the principles I work by :angel: . Do we know of any way to do this other than sending it to Sunshine? There has to have been some strides in the past 3 1/2 months, right?
Thanks
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Your best bet would be to get SOFF, convert it to the us unlocked version, then put it back to SON, then you'll have newer software/firmware, and have the security re-enabled

aer0zer0 said:
Your best bet would be to get SOFF, convert it to the us unlocked version, then put it back to SON, then you'll have newer software/firmware, and have the security re-enabled
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Ok...so either way; I'm looking at having to S-Off with Sunshine, then I can do the conversion from Verizon --> US Unlocked as you stated. Do you know if this alone (converting to US Unlocked) will correct the 4G lte issues that the 2.41.xxx has caused with this model? Or...would you recommend that I go ahead and flash Viper 10 ROM?
Thank you and cnat for the responses

agbq2002 said:
Ok...so either way; I'm looking at having to S-Off with Sunshine, then I can do the conversion from Verizon --> US Unlocked as you stated. Do you know if this alone (converting to US Unlocked) will correct the 4G lte issues that the 2.41.xxx has caused with this model? Or...would you recommend that I go ahead and flash Viper 10 ROM?
Thank you and cnat for the responses
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It can only help, Verizon is behind the game with software/firmware. I would recommend the swap if you plan on using a GSM carrier long term. Plus you can then flash viper on top of it.

aer0zer0 said:
It can only help, Verizon is behind the game with software/firmware. I would recommend the swap if you plan on using a GSM carrier long term. Plus you can then flash viper on top of it.
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So I came across a couple of articles that said using "Xposed Installer" could be used to flash a new ROM instead of Rooting my device. Do you, or anyone else have any experience with Xposed Installer on the HTC 10?

agbq2002 said:
So I came across a couple of articles that said using "Xposed Installer" could be used to flash a new ROM instead of Rooting my device. Do you, or anyone else have any experience with Xposed Installer on the HTC 10?
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In order to use Xposed you have to be rooted. Also, at least official Xposed doesn't work on Nougat yet although someone made a modified unofficial version so that it would on some devices.