Daydream? - Lenovo ZUK Z2 (Plus) Questions & Answers

Can we make the z2 plus a daydream ready device?

Yes... Maybe in future
Snapdragon 820 is fully capable for that ..
Hope for the best

Keeping fingers crossed!

Forget it. Not good enough sensors and missing other performance requirements too.

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[Q] ICS viable for arc S ?

hey guys im planning on making a purchase of an arc S . was thinking about a SGS2 but i only had SE phones so thought id stick with them. i know the SGS2 will be getting ICS but any chance for the arc?(official or unofficial and with no dual core processor is it viable or will it be out of date soon? thanks guys
According to some sources we might get. No promises through
i see thanks for the honest answer. well i think ill buy one anyway there a really cool phone. and im sure J will be able to port ICS anyway as long as it doesnt require a dual core Processor
ryanboyle2103 said:
i see thanks for the honest answer. well i think ill buy one anyway there a really cool phone. and im sure J will be able to port ICS anyway as long as it doesnt require a dual core Processor
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It does not require Dual core processor it's just optimized for Dual core. I heard someone already ported SDK into Galaxy S.

No Dev?

Why T2 Ultra Have no Development?
mijing said:
Why T2 Ultra Have no Development?
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I agree with you T2U is almost dead, even my 4 years old tablet Nexus 7 2012 got a lot of MM ROMs, ports and mods.
I regret buying this phone because of this thing
No Dev's.. As maybe bcoz... this phone isnt popular enough to grab dev's attention..
it is one of the best phone in its timeline.. (i think)
just wondering.. if we.. T2 users, can request.. dev(s) to get us new ROM.. is it possible?
rrd84 said:
No Dev's.. As maybe bcoz... this phone isnt popular enough to grab dev's attention..
it is one of the best phone in its timeline.. (i think)
just wondering.. if we.. T2 users, can request.. dev(s) to get us new ROM.. is it possible?
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They'll need the phone itself first if they wanna do work.
But then the T2U/C3 series has a lot of messed up or half-done work. Missing camera sensor folders, no QC 2.0, broken GPU governors. It's like they used this model as a test for newer ones.
AutumQueen92 said:
They'll need the phone itself first if they wanna do work.
But then the T2U/C3 series has a lot of messed up or half-done work. Missing camera sensor folders, no QC 2.0, broken GPU governors. It's like they used this model as a test for newer ones.
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yes.. you are right... :crying:
how is 9th Circle of Development is going? any idea?
rrd84 said:
yes.. you are right... :crying:
how is 9th Circle of Development is going? any idea?
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Slow, still doing work on their stuff. No devs with our phone, no work.
I'm going to move to the Redmi Note 4 soon, Snapdragon 652 at less than the price of the C3 with dev support. Give it up lol
AutumQueen92 said:
Slow, still doing work on their stuff. No devs with our phone, no work.
I'm going to move to the Redmi Note 4 soon, Snapdragon 652 at less than the price of the C3 with dev support. Give it up lol
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Yes..
i was also thinking the same.. from few days..
ok..

New to Honor/Huawei - what's the Dev scene like? Do Huawei bother?

So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
I've been looking in to this too. It seems you can unlock the bootloader on EMUI devices in an official way so that's a good start.
Have you had a look around the other Huawei and Honor forums? There do seem to be ROMs and unofficial Lineage OS builds, but I haven't found much info on sources, etc.
I have actually pre-ordered an Honor 8 Pro, it looks awesome and at £474 I couldn't resist. I think the major manufacturers have lost the plot in terms of flagship pricing.
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So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
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I'm in the same boat. I love the H8Pro but all I see outside of stock based roms, is one unofficial Lineage build for the Honor 8. The camera is currently listed as not working still. It's like that on a lot of phones that aren't too well known. My Le Pro 3 for example didn't have working camera on the marshmallow roms for a while and then when they got it working the 7 roms didn't have it until very recently. So it's a maybe it will at all. The problem is that while a lot of these companies allow bootloader unlocking, no they don't release sources. That's a big problem. That means devs have to build things like camera drivers from scratch, and without them being that popular devs working on it aren't usually too plentiful. Also not too much kernel support for that Kirin chipset either.
Well let me ask you guys. How much custom ROMs do you use these days ? I myself found that after changing to custom ROM I found back to stock ROM. These days stock roms has become so good that they actually brings the true character of a phone
Apparently I'm not the only one facing this decision. I've owned the Moto 2nd gen, G3, and G4 and frankly every time I've moved up a model, I like them a little less. For that reason alone, I'm trying to look past the Moto G5. Now that the Honor 9 is coming out, I'm taking a look at the Honor 8, hoping the cost will come down. I've always carried my phone in my front pocket so the size difference over the G4 I have now has me a little worried, but the weight really doesn't matter. I'm really looking very hard at the Honor 8 Pro though since price wise, it looks pretty close to the best bang for the buck.
ehh ..
alsheron said:
So I was all up and ready to buy a Moto G5 plus and then saw the Honor 8 Pro will be out soon. Everything about it looks great - The display (isn't amoled - thankfully!) and the size, the Kirin 960 looks like it competes with the Snapdragon 835 in many ways. And the price of course is very reasonable.
I'll be coming from the Nexus 5 so I've been in and around XDA a long time, flashing ROMs etc. I don't expect the Honor 8 Pro to be anywhere near as Dev friendly as the Nexus 5. But I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it's actually like for Devs with Huawei phones and getting hold of the sources needed to make custom ROMs or even get LineageOS and all the hardware working? I get the sense (but I'm not sure) that at the moment it's a *real* challenge because Huawei, like most manufacturers don't really believe that engaging with the Dev community can provide a great boost to brand visibility and "geek cred" which will then filter out into recommendations to friends and family etc: It can be a very strong marketing tool essentially. But companies rarely understand that it would actually benefit them in a business sense. So...
Do Huawei provide all the "sources" and resources needed for developing custom ROMs *eventually* or do they just not bother at all in some cases or make it very hard in others? I saw on a Honor 8 (not pro) thread that there are "ambassadors" around. Can these guys interact with Huawei/Honor to encourage them to help out with the necessary technical stuff to make building ROMs a viable possibility, and is that likely to get a good response or is it already in process?
I mean if I get the Honor 8 Pro, I'll use it "as is". EMUI is not bad but still quite amateurish/90s in many ways and I'm thinking I can go along way to fixing it by using a custom launcher. But if there's a good chance Honor/Huawei will suddenly become much more helpful with Dev stuff it would make it a dream phone for sure. Any info?
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personally, i am a fan of their emui5, amazing ui tho,
and their harware is solid,
camera is good too,
battery lives are excellent (thanks to emui optimisations)
but my only regret is that i dont have much of a custom roms to play with, given that their kirin chip is not open sourced
offcourse, their is open kirin team unofficially, but they are not working on every device, so only complaint will be kernel sources,
many honor devices has no development at all,
thilak devraj said:
personally, i am a fan of their emui5, amazing ui tho,
and their harware is solid,
camera is good too,
battery lives are excellent (thanks to emui optimisations)
but my only regret is that i dont have much of a custom roms to play with, given that their kirin chip is not open sourced
offcourse, their is open kirin team unofficially, but they are not working on every device, so only complaint will be kernel sources,
many honor devices has no development at all,
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1. kernel source from p10 plus works on duk
2. resurrection remix will follow soon .. it is booting already, but still has some major bugs we have to fix first
EDIT: I just saw you are talking about kirin devices in general, sorry
OldDroid said:
1. kernel source from p10 plus works on duk
2. resurrection remix will follow soon .. it is booting already, but still has some major bugs we have to fix first
EDIT: I just saw you are talking about kirin devices in general, sorry
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don't worry, we are always greatfull for open Kirin and the hard work of devs like you
Source code is just released! Check HERE. Since the phone is new, source is released early. OpenKirin Team can now develop for this device.
adriansticoid said:
Source code is just released! Check HERE. Since the phone is new, source is released early. OpenKirin Team can now develop for this device.
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wooow... source released ?? :cyclops:
thilak devraj said:
wooow... source released ?? :cyclops:
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Yeah. That's what I just said.
adriansticoid said:
Yeah. That's what I just said.
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wasnt expecting huawei to do this
thilak devraj said:
wasnt expecting huawei to do this
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Rox_Honor said it will be released mid-June. A bit delayed but it's good.
adriansticoid said:
Rox_Honor said it will be released mid-June. A bit delayed but it's good.
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finally, i could play with custom roms , hope it woud happen for the 6x too
thilak devraj said:
finally, i could play with custom roms , hope it woud happen for the 6x too
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Yeah. Everybody's hoping for that.
adriansticoid said:
Yeah. Everybody's hoping for that.
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imagin , if huawei bedev friendly, and their phones will be like snapdragons, no one would stop em
thilak devraj said:
imagin , if huawei bedev friendly, and their phones will be like snapdragons, no one would stop em
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They'll see this in the future. Yeah that future again.
adriansticoid said:
They'll see this in the future. Yeah that future again.
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if that happens, huawei's gonna beat sam
thilak devraj said:
if that happens, huawei's gonna beat sam
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Of course. So it's important that they decide for this.

I just realized this phone has a mediatek...

Mmmh ok this phone has a mediatek processor ... nothing against it but ....will we see ROMs in the future ? Kernels ? Is it even possible with mediatek processors ? I read that will probably never see a good version of gcam :c
Developers are working on it.. Hopefully they will develop a stable gcam for RN8Pro soon.
8 or 10 devices have been sent to developers from xiaomi i think the development is already growing almost daily something else has been developed. Kernel source code has been released ( partial from what i read ) and as far as Gcam it's pretty much already out but not 100% yet. This must have been a impulse buy for you not to know it was running a mediatek Soc. Be patient dev is under way just takes time.
fastjohnson said:
8 or 10 devices have been sent to developers from xiaomi i think the development is already growing almost daily something else has been developed. Kernel source code has been released ( partial from what i read ) and as far as Gcam it's pretty much already out but not 100% yet. This must have been a impulse buy for you not to know it was running a mediatek Soc. Be patient dev is under way just takes time.
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More than a impulse buy was a "crap ! I need a phone hey look ! a Xiaomi store.. hi what's your best .. (looking in my wallet) ..200 euros phone ?
Anyway would be pretty entertaining seeing ROMs kernels & co for a mediatek device
Btw I'm in love with this phone it's super good
R3xpok said:
More than a impulse buy was a "crap ! I need a phone hey look ! a Xiaomi store.. hi what's your best .. (looking in my wallet) ..200 euros phone ?
Anyway would be pretty entertaining seeing ROMs kernels & co for a mediatek device
Btw I'm in love with this phone it's super good
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I came from a huawei 8x as a work phone because my note 9 is too big and my xiaomi mi mix 3 is too easy to get dirty because of its slider front. Iv'e had a few mediatek powered devices and they was nothing great but i thought i'd give this a try. Things are taking off with this phone it's cheap enough and its got everything you could want. LMAO i thought it had a amoled screen myself so i'm guilty of being confused ( the umigidi X has the amolled screen not the redmi ) i got confused between the 2. Overall i'm happy with the RN8 pro works perfect.
fastjohnson said:
I came from a huawei 8x as a work phone because my note 9 is too big and my xiaomi mi mix 3 is too easy to get dirty because of its slider front. Iv'e had a few mediatek powered devices and they was nothing great but i thought i'd give this a try. Things are taking off with this phone it's cheap enough and its got everything you could want. LMAO i thought it had a amoled screen myself so i'm guilty of being confused ( the umigidi X has the amolled screen not the redmi ) i got confused between the 2. Overall i'm happy with the RN8 pro works perfect.
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How's it overall mate? specially software/sound/screen/GPS? thank you
Foreal_Bruh said:
How's it overall mate? specially software/sound/screen/GPS? thank you
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Software ...well it's MIUI 10 ... screen is good the brightness is ok sometimes I don't know why it randomly turn it all the way down but I think is a software problem .... God is ok signal is ok ...battery ...I reach 6-7 h of screen and I was 20%
Works good battery is real good, it's fast and smooth, the screens pretty good I run dark mode so it looks good. In my work place steel building it works very well as far as reception, wifi works really good, the audio is loud to the point it distorts, but in all it's very fluid not buggy at all. I just seen on Reddit there's a snapdragon 730 redmi note 8 pro coming out. SD 730 isn't a great processor so I don't get why they'd change it up.
Thank you both! i will wait a bit to see if the 730G phone is actually a SD version of this phone

Is this phone worth it?

Hi I'm planning to buy one for my next phone.
Is this worth it?
I'm limited by the price or I would go for the A70
I'm very pleased with this phone, only the camera is a little disappointing, coming from S8.
I guess 2 to 1 pixel binning doesn't work very well in 2d. A70 (and A51) have 4 to 1. S-series have larger pixels on the sensor, with only 12 MP more detail and less noise.
NoCo33 said:
I'm very pleased with this phone, only the camera is a little disappointing, coming from S8.
I guess 2 to 1 pixel binning doesn't work very well in 2d. A70 (and A51) have 4 to 1. S-series have larger pixels on the sensor, with only 12 MP more detail and less noise.
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That can be fixed via Software improvement.
But I'm thinking about the future development of this phone,,
I mean, will we get ROM and other supports by the Devs in the future...
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Wait for A51, it'll come out soon if it already isn't in your country. Better cameras and what's more important better fingerprint sensor.
BladeRunnerA2C said:
That can be fixed via Software improvement.
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Maybe, but I doubt it will happen. There were some camera updates already and it didn't improve much.
BladeRunnerA2C said:
But I'm thinking about the future development of this phone,,
I mean, will we get ROM and other supports by the Devs in the future...
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Devs don't seem to be very interested in supporting this phone for a number of reasons. So I'm not expecting any good custom roms soon.
NoCo33 said:
Maybe, but I doubt it will happen. There were some camera updates already and it didn't improve much.
Devs don't seem to be very interested in supporting this phone for a number of reasons. So I'm not expecting any good custom roms soon.
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Changed my mind ...
I'm going to Nokia 7.2
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I bought it today, dont care about camera at all. What i need is good screen, and this phone have it. Never Xiaomi again, my Mi 9 Lite had issue with stupid touch delay on edges of the screen had to return it.
Lack of custom roms suck but i can live with One UI after debloating.

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