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I'm thinking about getting a tab pro 8.4 WiFi only (320) and have a few questions.
1-just how laggy is touchwiz. This is my first samsung and have no experience with touchwiz. Does the general ui lag when switching between homescreen pages or moving through apps.
2- does resolution greatly affect the graphic performance. My existing phone (xperia P) can't handle heavy game's or websites. I need to know if the gpu is any good or not. Does it run dead trigger 2 on ultra high smoothly or asphalt 8 maxed out smoothly?
I need something to last me a few years.
3- is web browsing smooth?
4- is 2 gb ram sufficient? Are there too many redraws?
5- how bad are the WiFi signal drops. I live in a small apartment so this does not matter much.
6- any other flaws I should be worried about? Over heating etc.
7- is the contrast ratio acceptable? Blacks dark enough?
I couldn't find conclusive answers to these on the web and hopefully this will help future buyers. (including me )
Hamza Murad said:
I'm thinking about getting a tab pro 8.4 WiFi only (320) and have a few questions.
1-just how laggy is touchwiz. This is my first samsung and have no experience with touchwiz. Does the general ui lag when switching between homescreen pages or moving through apps.
2- does resolution greatly affect the graphic performance. My existing phone (xperia P) can't handle heavy game's or websites. I need to know if the gpu is any good or not. Does it run dead trigger 2 on ultra high smoothly or asphalt 8 maxed out smoothly?
I need something to last me a few years.
3- is web browsing smooth?
4- is 2 gb ram sufficient? Are there too many redraws?
5- how bad are the WiFi signal drops. I live in a small apartment so this does not matter much.
6- any other flaws I should be worried about? Over heating etc.
7- is the contrast ratio acceptable? Blacks dark enough?
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Have had the 8.4 pro for a couple months now and I can attest to the fact that it is a nice tablet. Screen is fantastic and performance is smooth. Gets great wifi signal in my house which has concrete walls that make it difficult to get signal for most devices. Only real problem I have with it is the android experience overall on the tablet. Many apps display stretched versions of phone apps (twitter, mlb at bat, etc) and web browsing could be better.
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@bkerk25
Could you do me a flavour?
Download asphalt 8 and run it on the maximum graphical settings and tell me if it is smooth enough.
Ps. Use mentions @[Username]
Hamza Murad said:
1-just how laggy is touchwiz. This is my first samsung and have no experience with touchwiz. Does the general ui lag when switching between homescreen pages or moving through apps.
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Its not the kind of thing where it locks up the device for a significant amount of time (seconds or even 1 second) but just a lack of general fluidity (split seconds of lag) within TouchWiz itself (not within 3rd party apps) when swiping through home screens,going back and forth to app drawer, etc. Really not the type of thing we should be seeing at this point with higher-end Android devices. So while disappointing, many folks are probably fine with it. Me on the other hand, got tired of it after a couple months, rooted and flashed a CM-based custom ROM, and much happier with the fluidity now.
Hamza Murad said:
2- does resolution greatly affect the graphic performance. My existing phone (xperia P) can't handle heavy game's or websites. I need to know if the gpu is any good or not. Does it run dead trigger 2 on ultra high smoothly or asphalt 8 maxed out smoothly?
I need something to last me a few years.
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If you are asking such questions about gaming and RAM, I have trouble believing you will be satisfied with any device for a "few" years. Maybe 2 years tops. But really the best you can do is by the best tablet you can afford (and the Pro 8.4 is a great contender) and hope for the best in terms of it being "future proof".
I'm not much of a gamer, so I can't help you much here, unfortunately.
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3- is web browsing smooth?
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I would say yes.
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5- how bad are the WiFi signal drops. I live in a small apartment so this does not matter much.
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I have had no issue with WiFi. The Pro 8.4 has as good or slightly better WiFi reception as other Android devices I've used. I use my Pro 8.4 on my back porch, with my WiFi router being in the front of the house and on the 2nd floor.
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6- any other flaws I should be worried about? Over heating etc.
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I had a minor issue with the battery meter sometimes not displaying properly after a charge. It would still read something like 50 or 60% when I had been charging it for long enough to be full. After a reboot, it would read 100%. Happened fairly occasionally, maybe once a week or a couple times a week. Others have noted similar issues.
This seems to be software based, as I haven't encountered this on my current CM ROM. And possibly this has been fixed in newer stock software.
Nothing else I've noticed since owning the tablet since April.
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7- is the contrast ratio acceptable? Blacks dark enough?
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Subjective. I'm used to LCDs, so the blacks are dark enough to me, and the colors look realistically vivid. If you are coming from AMOLED, you might feel differently. An LCD will never going to meet the infinite contrast ratio of AMOLED.
@redpoint73
Thankyou.
I should have termed it better. I didn't mean lag but delay and lack of fluidness. You phrased it perfectly.
Like you said, other than the tegra k1 sheild I doubt that any device is "future proof". What I meant was that if it is capable of running modern games maxed out. Obviously better games with higher demands will come but for the moment this will probably be sufficient. What worries me is the resolution. It's far greater than 1080p and I was worried if the adreno could handle games as they grew more demanding.
The contrast on my xperia P is terrible ( whites are 900 nits. Figure the blacks.) and at the moment any display would look darker. As this is my first tablet I didn't have anything good to compare it to (other than an android 1.5 tablet ). So I hoped that someone with past experience could tell me better.
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I should have termed it better. I didn't mean lag but delay and lack of fluidness. You phrased it perfectly.
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"Lag" is as good a term of it as any. I just wanted to clarify to anyone that has not witnessed it firsthand, it just a lack of fluidity, and not like you are staring at screens loading for seconds on end, or anything like that.
@redpoint73
I pretty much expected that. One more question. How long does is take for the screen to turn on after pressing the power button?
My father owns a galaxy s3 and turning on the screen takes about 2 seconds. On my xperia P it's instant. I'm guessing it's something to do with touchwiz.
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My father owns a galaxy s3 and turning on the screen takes about 2 seconds. On my xperia P it's instant. I'm guessing it's something to do with touchwiz.[/QUOTE]
Actually seemed pretty instantaneous on TouchWiz. I've been on CM for a few weeks now, so that's just by memory. Actually, its a bit slower on CM, but still not 2 seconds. Maybe 1 second.
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Hamza Murad said:
I'm thinking about getting a tab pro 8.4 WiFi only (320) and have a few questions.
1-just how laggy is touchwiz. This is my first samsung and have no experience with touchwiz. Does the general ui lag when switching between homescreen pages or moving through apps.
2- does resolution greatly affect the graphic performance. My existing phone (xperia P) can't handle heavy game's or websites. I need to know if the gpu is any good or not. Does it run dead trigger 2 on ultra high smoothly or asphalt 8 maxed out smoothly?
I need something to last me a few years.
3- is web browsing smooth?
4- is 2 gb ram sufficient? Are there too many redraws?
5- how bad are the WiFi signal drops. I live in a small apartment so this does not matter much.
6- any other flaws I should be worried about? Over heating etc.
7- is the contrast ratio acceptable? Blacks dark enough?
I couldn't find conclusive answers to these on the web and hopefully this will help future buyers. (including me )
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1) The first TW was soo laggy but it did two updates and seems okay now but I still plan to root/get CM11
3) Web browsing seems fine to me
4) Screen is fine - probably comparing to Super AMOLED like on the Tab S it may not be as good but it's as good as any other tablet out there if not better with the high screen res
@acasserole
How about gaming. Does it run asphalt 8 on ultra high smoothly?
OMG! Kim K posted another selfie with tons of cleavage! Rate this thread to express how quickly apps launch on the Honor 8. A higher rating indicates that even the most intensive apps launch quickly and without hesitation, even if they are no longer in RAM.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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It truly runs fast as ever as I see. Very nice phone with high quality and nice lookout. I' m a game enthusiast and really like to download games, which caused my phone sometimes a little hesitation. I need to use app to boost my phone, clear up memory... It's a privacy protection app -- LEO Privacy with many features, you can try!
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If you own another flagship, can you tell us how they perform side by side.
Honor 8 can launch apps really fast. Apps that I use daily are WhatsApp, Facebook, YouTube. It is a real enjoyment to see app loads that fast compare to my older phone.
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Honor 8 can launch apps really fast. Apps that I use daily are WhatsApp, Facebook, YouTube. It is a real enjoyment to see app loads that fast compare to my older phone.
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How about games?! Most android devices struggle at launching them
PalakMi said:
How about games?! Most android devices struggle at launching them
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As fast as your tear drops when watching Titanic:crying:
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As fast as your tear drops when watching Titanic:crying:
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Haha, that's good
Honor 8 Apps
Niki Kidman said:
It truly runs fast as ever as I see. Very nice phone with high quality and nice lookout. I' m a game enthusiast and really like to download games, which caused my phone sometimes a little hesitation. I need to use app to boost my phone, clear up memory... It's a privacy protection app -- LEO Privacy with many features, you can try!
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Thank you for the positive review on your Honor 8! The Honor 8 is powered by an octa-core CPU @4x2.3GHz + 4x1.8GHz built on a 16nm architecture. 4GB of LPDDR4 RAM enable flawless multitasking and seamless gaming. If you notices a lag, we always recommend users to shut down their devices for 3-5 minutes everyday to re-calibrate. We appreciate the feedback, as always! (NS)
It's a Flagship device. I didn't expect anything less
simeon4real said:
It's a Flagship device. I didn't expect anything less
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You will see difference while gaming (weak GPU compared to Qualcomm ones )
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You will see difference while gaming (weak GPU compared to Qualcomm ones )
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That's right. Either It's cool with me. (Not an ideal gamer anyway)
Launching speed? Its the fastest android phone right now. I own it and all I can say it is comparable to ip6s in launching speed. Anandtech did confirm this on their review too.
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Launching speed? Its the fastest android phone right now. I own it and all I can say it is comparable to ip6s in launching speed. Anandtech did confirm this on their review too.
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It smoked iphone 7 in a test, (on youtube)
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It smoked iphone 7 in a test, (on youtube)
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I saw that too, was actually a factor in me going for it over the 7. But yeah, it's lightning fast.
For sure honor 8 is the best phone for launch speed so far. Even faster than oneplus 3 and iPhone 7. iphone 7 is only faster at launching games
Kirin 950 is the best one of HiSilicon today. :victory:
the 960 is coming out soon
jkccl9 said:
the 960 is coming out soon
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Really? When?
gopinaidu77 said:
Really? When?
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/10766/huawei-announces-hisilicon-kirin-960-a73-g71
its announced so next year probs
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/10766/huawei-announces-hisilicon-kirin-960-a73-g71
its announced so next year probs
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Cool. Another flagship will run it for sure.
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Cool. Another flagship will run it for sure.
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yep 9xx is flagship 6xx is crap models :laugh::laugh:
Hey everyone I'm a newbie in chinese smartphones cuz I haven't use one before , I'm actually on LG G4 and I want to switch to another smartphone !!
My Budget is 400$ Maximum !!
after many searches I've found 4 devices in that price range ,what I really want of my next future smartphone ,is to be an upgrade over My lg G4 camera and more performance.
My priorities are , Performance and longevity !! , good Camera , Solid build (Durability) , and Battery.
But I also want a good and Sharp display,good loudspeakers !!For Multimedia
I know that this is a lot to expect from a 400$ smartphone but I just want the best bang for bucks not that Perfect as flagships!!
I've found myself stuck with Oneplus 3 , Xiaomi Mi 5s, Honor 8 , Axon 7 and Zenfone 3 !!
it's very difficult for me to choose please help me , if there is another smartphone that you consider better please tell me !!
Best Regards,
Youssef
I can simply say that the Oneplus 3 is the fastest phone in multi-tasking in this row. I'm not sure but I do recommend you writing down what's important and watch alot of YouTube videos about all of the phones, overall in performance the Honor 8 with EMUI is the worst.
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I can simply say that the Oneplus 3 is the fastest phone in multi-tasking in this row. I'm not sure but I do recommend you writing down what's important and watch alot of YouTube videos about all of the phones, overall in performance the Honor 8 with EMUI is the worst.
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Thanks man for your answer , I appreciate , But I've seen in some reviews that the Honor 8 performs well than the other smartphone I listed before ,especially in oppening apps and multitasking, But I haven't seen any gaming reviews of this smartphone compared to others but I guess that it might get some stutter , lags or some fps drops because of the low antutu and 3dMark benchmarks .
So what's important for me , is smoothness in day to day tasks , like browsing , social media(facebook,twitter,snapchat...) ,watching videos in youtube , listening to music via both headphones and loudspeakers, and playing some games in time to time( I'm not a heavy gamer).But I would expect also getting a good battery at least one whole day (4.5 hours or more SOT) .
But i would consider Also a good camera , I don't care about low light photos or video recording all I want is best daylight stills for social media sharing.
I know this is so difficult , becuz every smartphone excels in something .
PS:I fortgot to mention a good build(solid) not fragile, and a good display.
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Thanks man for your answer , I appreciate , But I've seen in some reviews that the Honor 8 performs well than the other smartphone I listed before ,especially in oppening apps and multitasking, But I haven't seen any gaming reviews of this smartphone compared to others but I guess that it might get some stutter , lags or some fps drops because of the low antutu and 3dMark benchmarks .
So what's important for me , is smoothness in day to day tasks , like browsing , social media(facebook,twitter,snapchat...) ,watching videos in youtube , listening to music via both headphones and loudspeakers, and playing some games in time to time( I'm not a heavy gamer).But I would expect also getting a good battery at least one whole day (4.5 hours or more SOT) .
But i would consider Also a good camera , I don't care about low light photos or video recording all I want is best daylight stills for social media sharing.
I know this is so difficult , becuz every smartphone excels in something .
PS:I fortgot to mention a good build(solid) not fragile, and a good display.
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You won't have a problem with multitasking on this phone, 6GB of ram and a bloody fast soc. Main reason I think that the Honor 8 peforms bad is because of the heavy UI it has. I have friends with Huawei p9s that starts lagging over time as cache piles up. If multitasking is the main priority the onepkus will score the bestm
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Youssefmans said:
Thanks man for your answer , I appreciate , But I've seen in some reviews that the Honor 8 performs well than the other smartphone I listed before ,especially in oppening apps and multitasking, But I haven't seen any gaming reviews of this smartphone compared to others but I guess that it might get some stutter , lags or some fps drops because of the low antutu and 3dMark benchmarks .
So what's important for me , is smoothness in day to day tasks , like browsing , social media(facebook,twitter,snapchat...) ,watching videos in youtube , listening to music via both headphones and loudspeakers, and playing some games in time to time( I'm not a heavy gamer).But I would expect also getting a good battery at least one whole day (4.5 hours or more SOT) .
But i would consider Also a good camera , I don't care about low light photos or video recording all I want is best daylight stills for social media sharing.
I know this is so difficult , becuz every smartphone excels in something .
PS:I fortgot to mention a good build(solid) not fragile, and a good display.
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You won't have a problem with multitasking on this phone, 6GB of ram and a bloody fast soc. Main reason I think that the Honor 8 peforms bad is because of the heavy UI it has. I have friends with Huawei p9s that starts lagging over time as cache piles up. If multitasking is the main priority the OnePlus will score the best.
OP3 is clear winner. Most important thing - software is where it shines. Also, hardware and build quality is premium.
I have lg g5 and im very satisfied with it!Especially with nougat this thing flies.how is oneplus 3 camera compared to g5's(video-photos)?
Do you recommend me op3 over g5?thank you!
I'll go for axon 7 if you can get pass the horrible lockscreen or maybe there already is a way to bypass it.
Performance-You really can't tell the 6 and 4gb ram apart unless you run like 12 apps at the same time, both will perform the same on gaming use, unless you want more bragging rights like most of the community here. or import the china 6gb ver if you can get it.
Longevity- op3 wins on software as even no official updates, xda will continue on. Hardware wise, ditto I only has mine for 5 months. BUT zte promises a far better warranty deal, especially how renown op is with customer service.
Multimedia-The axon screen is really better to me, no colour shift when watching the screen sideways and if you game and concentrate hard, you'll see the 2k vs 1080 difference. But it's not really a dramatic difference.
Sound-Whatever super dac on the axon will NOT blow your mind. I can't say for all but it's not the same feeling like changing a 10 to 100bucks headphone to me. You can't tell the difference unless you a audiophile. HOWEVER, the stereo does. no more hand cover up, immersive gaming, no more turning up the vol just to hear what the character says, etc.
Do note I'm comparing axon and op3 only as I only has these. The camera, battery etc depends on your usage.
I think you should add more factors for consideration, link unlocking bootloader/root/rescue, choices of custom roms, active of community, etc...
One of my friend has the one+ 5t and was playing Sonic Dash, the rendering was so fast and so smooth, it looks like 60 fps, i tried the same game on my Honor 8 Pro as well but sadly, the frame rate was not as smooth and fast as the One+ 5t... it looks like around 30 - 40 fps on the Honor 8 Pro.
Is it a hardware limitation on the Honor 8 Pro ? (the game takes so much ressources that the hardware cannot follow) or, the game is not optimized for the Honor 8 Pro ? (the game doesn't explore all of the potential from the Honor 8 Pro's hardware).
Kirin chipset has always been about one step behind..
even when you compare with Exynos that uses Mali, Exynos chipset has got extra cores compared to Kirin.
but yes, sometimes it also requires optimisation from developers.
having said that, do remember than Kirin processor on the honor8Pro is kinda old. iirc, it's a chip that was launched at the end of 2016..
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One of my friend has the one+ 5t and was playing Sonic Dash, the rendering was so fast and so smooth, it looks like 60 fps, i tried the same game on my Honor 8 Pro as well but sadly, the frame rate was not as smooth and fast as the One+ 5t... it looks like around 30 - 40 fps on the Honor 8 Pro.
Is it a hardware limitation on the Honor 8 Pro ? (the game takes so much ressources that the hardware cannot follow) or, the game is not optimized for the Honor 8 Pro ? (the game doesn't explore all of the potential from the Honor 8 Pro's hardware).
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The biggest prick caused by 2k res screen. Once got oreo updated, change your screen res to 1080p, your good to go.
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grizzlyspid86 said:
The biggest prick caused by 2k res screen. Once got oreo updated, change your screen res to 1080p, your good to go.
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I tried already, it doesn't change anything unfortunately...
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The biggest prick caused by 2k res screen. Once got oreo updated, change your screen res to 1080p, your good to go.
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lolz... some ppl say that's one of the best features (many like high res)... but ya... this is one possible cause...
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I tried already, it doesn't change anything unfortunately...
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How u change it? U got oreo already? Or just use low resolution in battery settings?
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How u change it? U got oreo already? Or just use low resolution in battery settings?
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I have Oreo, and you can change resolution in battery settings, even though i can set resolution to low (HD or Full HD instead of 2k), it doesn't mean games' performances will increase a lot.
In Sonic Dash for example, whatever resolution i use, the frame rate is still low and bad...
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I have Oreo, and you can change resolution in battery settings, even though i can set resolution to low (HD or Full HD instead of 2k), it doesn't mean games' performances will increase a lot.
In Sonic Dash for example, whatever resolution i use, the frame rate is still low and bad...
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Then its the game fault cause dont optimise for our Mali GPU. As for other games i'm using, change res to 1080p definitely increase fps and become smoother.
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kirin 960 uses Mali g71- MP8 gpu instead bof the MP20 core version. That was a big mistake in my opinion. Samsung used MP20 in their Exynos which gives it a nice boost.
And also 2k resolution make it harder.
Lowering the resolution doesn't help as it is an IPS display rather than Amoled.
Besides optimisation sometimes does matter
Frame drops and Performance issue
This is a issue with all of the honor 8pro , there are lot of frame drops which are quite annoying and all the apps are not optimised . When I compared my honor 8pro with Moto X force which has Snapdragon 821 , all the apps in Moto X force
are buttery smooth which is very addictive and cool ,but my honor 8 pro even with this
Hi Silicon Kirin 960 it performs disgusting , there are frame drops and sometimes it sikps them ..... Disappointed with my purchase
Bad software optimisation, and worst part is rom development support is dead
On paper and benchmarks kirin 960 is a beast but when it comes to real world usage, the processor is sh*t. Too much frame drops, ui lags and glitches everywhere. I hate this phone and regret my decision to buy it over oneplus. No doubt that this processor is fast but its not smooth. When I compared general ui navigation, my zenfone was much smoother despite of having Snapdragon 625.
Regarding the OnePlus throttling gate, you can read here:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
The OnePlus 9 seems to be throttling its performance in many popular apps
The OnePlus 9 Pro seems to be limiting the performance in popular apps like Chrome, Twitter, Zoom, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, and more.
www.xda-developers.com
This is just stupid, I have been running a 7 pro for 4 years, it has been, hands down, one of the best smartphones I ever owned, performance has been great from day 1 to last day and it is still living with a relative of mine, and he is supper happy with it, I have play a lot, like A LOT and it has worked flawlessly every single time.
I got a 9 pro in october past year and it has been a pain in the ass, the poor performance has been annoyingly usual, the only way to play 120FPS in some games is a magisk module intended for a Samsung F62 which I can't figure out why (because I have no knowledge about this) but it makes some game run 120FPS, however performance is really bad, there is frame drops in some points where my couple's nord 2 demolishes with no issue... I can't figure out why a nord 2 outperforms my 9 pro (i know nord 2 is 90Hz but it is much more solid 90FPS being lower tier).
Let me explain, my couple nord 2 remains 90FPS where my 9 pro gets as low as 30FPS, it is noticeable and annoying.
Is there some sort of magisk module or something "comfortable" for newbies which can be enabled or disabled at taste? I don't mind rebooting phone (I do every time i want to play some games with module I mentioned xd)
I did not tinker with kernels (not yet, did in the past with my former LG G2 and Galaxy S3 but it was quite different). I would like to remain in the Oxygen OS path for now too.
I tried lots of things, AI booster for magisk, also Adreno drivers and nothing seems to work, just performance scaling which seems to lower freq in order to improve battery life, but never higher performance (high performance mode in battery settings seems to do nohing, also tried)
Looking for this as well, as well as a module to disable annoying Doze by the SystemUI. I tried a few modules but the devices still dozes.
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Regarding the OnePlus throttling gate, you can read here:
Examining OnePlus' Performance Behaviour: Optimization or Misrepresentation?
www.anandtech.com
The OnePlus 9 seems to be throttling its performance in many popular apps
The OnePlus 9 Pro seems to be limiting the performance in popular apps like Chrome, Twitter, Zoom, WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram, and more.
www.xda-developers.com
This is just stupid, I have been running a 7 pro for 4 years, it has been, hands down, one of the best smartphones I ever owned, performance has been great from day 1 to last day and it is still living with a relative of mine, and he is supper happy with it, I have play a lot, like A LOT and it has worked flawlessly every single time.
I got a 9 pro in october past year and it has been a pain in the ass, the poor performance has been annoyingly usual, the only way to play 120FPS in some games is a magisk module intended for a Samsung F62 which I can't figure out why (because I have no knowledge about this) but it makes some game run 120FPS, however performance is really bad, there is frame drops in some points where my couple's nord 2 demolishes with no issue... I can't figure out why a nord 2 outperforms my 9 pro (i know nord 2 is 90Hz but it is much more solid 90FPS being lower tier).
Let me explain, my couple nord 2 remains 90FPS where my 9 pro gets as low as 30FPS, it is noticeable and annoying.
Is there some sort of magisk module or something "comfortable" for newbies which can be enabled or disabled at taste? I don't mind rebooting phone (I do every time i want to play some games with module I mentioned xd)
I did not tinker with kernels (not yet, did in the past with my former LG G2 and Galaxy S3 but it was quite different). I would like to remain in the Oxygen OS path for now too.
I tried lots of things, AI booster for magisk, also Adreno drivers and nothing seems to work, just performance scaling which seems to lower freq in order to improve battery life, but never higher performance (high performance mode in battery settings seems to do nohing, also tried)
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The links you posted, those articles are not RELEVANT to YOUR issue. The throttling you're experiencing is a thermal throttling behavior that is literally NORMAL and part of EVERY OEM/Phone.
If you're on a STOCK ROM, the only way to somewhat "kill" the default throttling behavior is to disable/freeze the BATTERY package (app) either via Titanium Backup or some other app. That will prevent the phone from throttling based on the SKIN/Battery temperature.
Otherwise, Custom ROMs based on either OOS12 or OOS13 don't have any of that stock OEM throttling behavior.
JohnTheFarm3r said:
The links you posted, those articles are not RELEVANT to YOUR issue. The throttling you're experiencing is a thermal throttling behavior that is literally NORMAL and part of EVERY OEM/Phone.
If you're on a STOCK ROM, the only way to somewhat "kill" the default throttling behavior is to disable/freeze the BATTERY package (app) either via Titanium Backup or some other app. That will prevent the phone from throttling based on the SKIN/Battery temperature.
Otherwise, Custom ROMs based on either OOS12 or OOS13 don't have any of that stock OEM throttling behavior.
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Is it really thermal throttling? I mean, phone does not get any warmer than usual and for example, Brawl Stars is capped at 60 FPS like most games in BBK phones (but Brawl stars worked 120FPS flawless some time ago, not much, a year ago or so I had a Realme GT Neo 2 which ran games buttersmooth and has basically the same software, color OS, which now has the same issue, games capped to 60 FPS and crap performance)
That is not normal behaviour because Brawl Stars devs claimed the game is fully unlocked and if it works below screen refresh is because of the phone software, that's the "throttling" I mean, don't know if it is because of the famous whitelisting of Oppo.
What I mean is in previous software games worked properly and now performance is a joke (I mention realme GT Neo 2 because is what I could test in the past, I loved it, that's why is a bummer getting a "better phone" which works much worse).
Get an Xbox and solve all your game problems!
TheGhost1951 said:
Get an Xbox and solve all your game problems!
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An Xbox? Are you from USA?
I just want my phone works as it should, I don't care about battery.
Also tried disabling battery app and no difference, same behaviour, I'm in OOS13 latest update.
Maybe I should give a try to custom ROM...
SnoopyFTW said:
Is it really thermal throttling? I mean, phone does not get any warmer than usual and for example, Brawl Stars is capped at 60 FPS like most games in BBK phones (but Brawl stars worked 120FPS flawless some time ago, not much, a year ago or so I had a Realme GT Neo 2 which ran games buttersmooth and has basically the same software, color OS, which now has the same issue, games capped to 60 FPS and crap performance)
That is not normal behaviour because Brawl Stars devs claimed the game is fully unlocked and if it works below screen refresh is because of the phone software, that's the "throttling" I mean, don't know if it is because of the famous whitelisting of Oppo.
What I mean is in previous software games worked properly and now performance is a joke (I mention realme GT Neo 2 because is what I could test in the past, I loved it, that's why is a bummer getting a "better phone" which works much worse).
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it is because of thermal throttling, literally. The phone doesn't get warmer because it's being limited, hence the point of thermal throttling.
The refresh rate - FPS - in a game depends solely on the devs. If the game has in one device for example support for 120 FPS, and it doesn't have in another device, it's not because of the device but because the developers either didn't "whitelist" that specific device or weren't updated in a longer time.
JohnTheFarm3r said:
it is because of thermal throttling, literally. The phone doesn't get warmer because it's being limited, hence the point of thermal throttling.
The refresh rate - FPS - in a game depends solely on the devs. If the game has in one device for example support for 120 FPS, and it doesn't have in another device, it's not because of the device but because the developers either didn't "whitelist" that specific device or weren't updated in a longer time.
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Hmm...
With the magisk module I mentioned device name changes from LE2123 to SO-52A or something similar, makes also work codm 120 FPS pretty good, much better than brawl stars which is much weaker in terms of graphics quality and detail.
Is there any way to spoof model name to test this? If so devs are lying big time. When launched 9 pro they announced collab with many games, even hypertouch feature which is gone and for what seems now touch sampling rate is just 120Hz from the 360 advertised (monitoring with apps say so).
Also tried to disable battery app and no difference, behaviour is the same.
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Hmm...
With the magisk module I mentioned device name changes from LE2123 to SO-52A or something similar, makes also work codm 120 FPS pretty good, much better than brawl stars which is much weaker in terms of graphics quality and detail.
Is there any way to spoof model name to test this? If so devs are lying big time. When launched 9 pro they announced collab with many games, even hypertouch feature which is gone and for what seems now touch sampling rate is just 120Hz from the 360 advertised (monitoring with apps say so).
Also tried to disable battery app and no difference, behaviour is the same.
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Disabling the battery app is for the throttling workaround, not to increase the frames in the game that don't support it on your device. lol
Anyways, blame the devs...They're the ones that need to add support for the specific device to go above the XY FPS.
The smartphone wasn't intended to be a gaming device. Chipset and battery not rated for it. Get an Xbox or some similar device for gaming that it was intended for! Just my opinion.
You can test the throttling using a CPU/GPU Throttle Testing app. The OP 9 starts throttling at a low temperature, I can notice FPS dropping in games starting at 38 degrees.
I use a cooling fan attached to my OP to keep the phone at a constant 32 degrees. I also bought a heat dispersion case to help further.
Also using Konabess to undevolt the GPU also helps a bit.
TheGhost1951 said:
The smartphone wasn't intended to be a gaming device. Chipset and battery not rated for it. Get an Xbox or some similar device for gaming that it was intended for! Just my opinion.
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I'm not asking for it to perform in graphic demanding games, I'm telling you even a redmi note 10 pro (that thing is actually not rated for anything) outperforms the 9 pro in light gaming because it is not capped.
Blame the devs, blame OnePlus, I just want to know if there is any solution, I purchased the phone a few months ago and I'm finding stupid behaviours an "allegedly" flagship should not have.
Jeez even my couple Nord 2 is much better in games, that hurts...
And yeah. Get an Xbox blablabla, I do own a PS4, a powerful laptop and a powerful desktop, I just want my stupid phone to do what it should do or at least know why or if it can be solved, this is not r/xbox.
This is an issue many people complain about but OnePlus ever stated anything.
For what I can see my options are getting a cheap 120HZ phone or custom ROM (I saw a blackshark 4 for 200EUR which runs games fine)
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Disabling the battery app is for the throttling workaround, not to increase the frames in the game that don't support it on your device. lol
Anyways, blame the devs...They're the ones that need to add support for the specific device to go above the XY FPS.
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The thing is when released the 9 pro, OnePlus brand had collabs with many games, even hypertouch, all of it disappeared into thin air...
That was the main reason for me to purchase, I had a great experience with my former 7 pro and I couldn't even think this could be a thing.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1367122914961670156
This thread is of the main dev of the game I'm talking about. He claims the brand has to whitelist app in order to make it work 120HZ/120FPS.
Is there no way to modify that "whitelist"? I've read sometimes about this but rarely found anything (anything users can do about it lmao) and we all know how lazy oppo is with this things, there can be a thousand posts in OnePlus community ther will never answer.
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The thing is when released the 9 pro, OnePlus brand had collabs with many games, even hypertouch, all of it disappeared into thin air...
That was the main reason for me to purchase, I had a great experience with my former 7 pro and I couldn't even think this could be a thing.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1367122914961670156
This thread is of the main dev of the game I'm talking about. He claims the brand has to whitelist app in order to make it work 120HZ/120FPS.
Is there no way to modify that "whitelist"? I've read sometimes about this but rarely found anything (anything users can do about it lmao) and we all know how lazy oppo is with this things, there can be a thousand posts in OnePlus community ther will never answer.
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This is a GAME SIDE issue, not a phone-side issue. There is no whitelist on a phone that will enable you the unsupported FPS.
SnoopyFTW said:
An Xbox? Are you from USA?
I just want my phone works as it should, I don't care about battery.
Also tried disabling battery app and no difference, same behaviour, I'm in OOS13 latest update.
Maybe I should give a try to custom ROM...
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If you want to try a custom rom, Extended is great as daily driver and for gaming as well
Well, if XBox isn't available then look for a Microsoft Play Station instead!
JohnTheFarm3r said:
This is a GAME SIDE issue, not a phone-side issue. There is no whitelist on a phone that will enable you the unsupported FPS.
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You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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Try your own phone model in the virtual machine. What happens?
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Try your own phone model in the virtual machine. What happens?
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If I set up OnePlus LE2123/20/25 game runs 60FPS.
If I set for instance, my couple nord 2 DN2103 runs 120FPS same settings, just device name and brand changed!
Presets for S20, Xiaomi 10, vivo x50 all run 120 FPS.
Which for me is big yikes It is clearly devs fault, there has to be something odd...
SnoopyFTW said:
You are totally correct my friend... I have been tinkering with vmos app, I created a virtual machine in my own phone (lmao sounds like science fiction, but damnit this 888 has muscle) and it is just because devs do it intentionally.
I tried different phone makes and models... Casually Snapdragon flagship cap the game to 60FPS, but NORD devices make it run 120 FPS (you can set FPS settings in the VM option).
This is hilarious. Seems to me OnePlus just broke some contract conditions and this is devs punishment... Makes no sense, I have to test further but this is what I found for now. My doubt is if I might get a ban for using the game in a virtual machine... This is not relevant for this post!
Hope it helps someone, for exclusive games working just 120HZ in some devices you can spoof model name without root
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So what are you saying exactly: if we spoof our device to a different one, we get more fps?