Exteneral USB M2 Sata Supported but not MSata? - Moto Z2 Force Questions & Answers

I was able to get an M2 Sata Adapter to work and a new WD 1TB external drive but an Msata and an older 500gb WD will not... Ideas? - Drives are able to be seen on PC.

XE-Cherokee said:
I was able to get an M2 Sata Adapter to work and a new WD 1TB external drive but an Msata and an older 500gb WD will not... Ideas? - Drives are able to be seen on PC.
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It's the power requirements of those adapters. Powered USB hub should work. Same reason my stock work dell kb works but not my Logitech g910. But with a powered hub it works fine.

Okay, that's what I was leaning towards. Older devices having higher power requirements. Any knowledge or recommendations of portable powered usb hubs?

XE-Cherokee said:
Okay, that's what I was leaning towards. Older devices having higher power requirements. Any knowledge or recommendations of portable powered usb hubs?
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Not really. Anything with a quality name behind it.

bignazpwns said:
Not really. Anything with a quality name behind it.
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Okay so far I have been able to get the M2sata drive, 500gb WD USB Drive, and the 1 TB WD USB Drive to work on my Z2 Force just not he USB Msata Drive.
However the Msata Drive works on a Galaxy S7 and My PC just fine. Thoughts?

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[Q] I just ordered a Acasis USB Dual External Drive Enclosure w/USB Hub

I just ordered a Acasis USB Dual External Drive Enclosure w/USB Hub - Supports 5.25" Slim SATA Optical Drive & 2.5" SATA HDD up to 640GB; http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-ODD-SATA-PB&cat=DVD
I have another purpose for it to be used with my laptop, but I am wondering if this might work with the Galaxy SII ?? The hard drive might but don't know and the DVD part will need software, maybe VLC might have a try with it? This could all be moot... might not have a chance to work at all but I thought it might be interesting? What do you think.
This can be used as an external hard drive with an s2?
Depending on your rom/kernel combo you can get a USB otg cable/dongle and plug flash drives, external hard drives, mice and keyboards into your phone and use them just fine.
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Update!
Galaxy-Shadow said:
I just ordered a Acasis USB Dual External Drive Enclosure w/USB Hub - Supports 5.25" Slim SATA Optical Drive & 2.5" SATA HDD up to 640GB; http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=BLK-ODD-SATA-PB&cat=DVD
I have another purpose for it to be used with my laptop, but I am wondering if this might work with the Galaxy SII ?? The hard drive might but don't know and the DVD part will need software, maybe VLC might have a try with it? This could all be moot... might not have a chance to work at all but I thought it might be interesting? What do you think.
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Well to my surprise The Galaxy S2 will read the 160Gb hard drive and the CD portion of the optical Drive!, it is an LG CDR Sata Drive, it won't read my Sony DVD Sata drive, but at least I can burn CD-R's with my phone! that I was not expecting!, as I get more time I will experiment with other uses for this.:good:

[Q] 2.5" HDD

Hello,
I have a USB otg connection adapter and thumb drives and sd cards work fine. Higher power devices (external 2.5" HDD) don't work as they need more power. I have a Y usb cable for my external hard drive (one usb plug for data and one for extra power). Can I connect the data plug to my otg adapter and the other usb connector to a wall charger in order to make my Note work with my hard drive? Or am i going to break something in my Note as there are no diodes in the y-cable blocking current going from the wall charger into my Note?
edit: and if this works: any suggestions for the file structure? FAT is not ideal due to file size limitations and NTFS is not ideal due to licensing. Does the Note supports exFAT up to 1 TB?
Yes, you can. You can use a wall adapter, a powered USB hub or like me, a portable battery with USB output that lets you use that HDD on the go.
Szadzik said:
Yes, you can. You can use a wall adapter, a powered USB hub or like me, a portable battery with USB output that lets you use that HDD on the go.
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I've noticed that the 10.1 won't power some things like a 2.5" portable drive that my Note 2 can power just fine. Not sure if there is a reason for this and it's working as intended or just a bug?
gmkelly001 said:
I've noticed that the 10.1 won't power some things like a 2.5" portable drive that my Note 2 can power just fine. Not sure if there is a reason for this and it's working as intended or just a bug?
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It is only by a fluke that the Note 1 powers an HDD. These devices are not designed to power anything but USB sticks. Not sure if there is enough juice to power a USB3 stick so do not look for bugs or solutions as this is not a bug but that how the device is designed.

Access your WD 2tb Passport HD with OTG and Power bank

What you need
- Nexus 7 2013
- WD 2tb Passport HD ( no ac required)
http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Storage-WDBY8L0020BBK-NESN/dp/B005HMKKH4
- Portable External battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2USB-30000ma...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item258103ee95&_uhb=1
- Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power Male Female for cell phone Tablet
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-Micr...bles_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item3385f60dc4&_uhb=1
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
aznduk said:
What you need
- Nexus 7 2013
- WD 2tb Passport HD ( no ac required)
http://www.amazon.com/Passport-Portable-External-Storage-WDBY8L0020BBK-NESN/dp/B005HMKKH4
- Portable External battery
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/2USB-30000ma...hone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item258103ee95&_uhb=1
- Micro USB Host OTG Cable with USB power Male Female for cell phone Tablet
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/USB-2-0-Micr...bles_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item3385f60dc4&_uhb=1
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
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Really nice to run across this! I have a 1TB WD Passport, OTG cable, an Anker external battery, and Nexus Media Importer and they work great with this setup. I had tried a powered USB hub and it worked but this is much better from my perspective - hadn't thought of trying the battery pack.
Interestingly, I also have 2 500GB WD Passports that worked without additional power on my 2012 N7 but they won't work without additional power on my 2013 N7.
Thanks for the post!
Dave
aznduk said:
Works flawlessly. I'm able to access all my files on the hard drive through my tablet. The down side of it is you gotta carry a portable external battery for it to work. Other than that its pretty useful.
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Can you also write to the hard drive?
Thanks, Michael.
does it have to be a 2 tb? i have a 1.5 tb
mtbvfr said:
Can you also write to the hard drive?
Thanks, Michael.
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yes, im currently on cm10.2 m1(milestone) rom with stock kernal. playing videos straight off hd tends to reboot my device. Let me know if you get similar issues. i find copying the file into the sd storage is the most stable way. hopefully CyanogenMod will come up with an update that corrects this problem
Midnight Marauder said:
does it have to be a 2 tb? i have a 1.5 tb
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It works with any hd drive that doesnt require an outlet plug
Is it possible to use a USB hub, connect the HDD to the hub, mount the HDD and then connect a SD Card reader to the USB hub, mount the SD card reader and transfer files from the SD card to the HDD??
TehFonz said:
Is it possible to use a USB hub, connect the HDD to the hub, mount the HDD and then connect a SD Card reader to the USB hub, mount the SD card reader and transfer files from the SD card to the HDD??
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No. It appears that a single external drive/memory device is the limit (at least on a stock unit).
I forgot to ask before, does this require rooting?
Midnight Marauder said:
I forgot to ask before, does this require rooting?
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No, I'm stock.
I have a WD element 1tb, I'll need the OTG but the external battery is required to play it on n7?
vinceboiii said:
I have a WD element 1tb, I'll need the OTG but the external battery is required to play it on n7?
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Yes, and an app like Nexus Media Importer to access it. I'm actually assuming that it will require additional power, like my 1TB WD Passport does - I haven't tried this particular model myself.
ahh right need that app too okay thanks. I will give this a try after I move and settle in.
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I don't understand. How do you have it cabled? For example, I have a limefuel 15600mAh battery with a microUSB input (for power) and two USB outputs to power a device. How are you cabling the Passport to the battery and then to the Nexus?
kennybellew said:
I don't understand. How do you have it cabled? For example, I have a limefuel 15600mAh battery with a microUSB input (for power) and two USB outputs to power a device. How are you cabling the Passport to the battery and then to the Nexus?
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I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M0ICG2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
sparksd said:
I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005M0ICG2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
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is there cheaper on ebay for that microUSB 3.0 y cable? that looks interesting if u can do usb3.0 speeds TO and FROM your tablet/phone
sparksd said:
I'm using a different setup, a dual A to Micro-B USB 3.0 Y Cable like this --
The USB 3 male plug goes to the WD; the male USB 2 power plug goes to the external battery; the other male USB 2 goes to a OTG cable connected to the Nexus 7. I use Nexus Media Importer to access the WD.
Dave
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Thanks. That helps.
cobyman7035 said:
is there cheaper on ebay for that microUSB 3.0 y cable? that looks interesting if u can do usb3.0 speeds TO and FROM your tablet/phone
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Probably are - Amazon was convenient. As for speed, I don't have a way to measure transfer speeds but I do know it is fast and in no way impedes video file viewing direct from the HDD. Using on a laptop, I can see that it does give true USB 3.0 transfer speeds.
sparksd said:
Yes, and an app like Nexus Media Importer to access it. I'm actually assuming that it will require additional power, like my 1TB WD Passport does - I haven't tried this particular model myself.
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You don't really need the Nexus Media Importer app to access external hard drive files.I'm on Cm10.2.0 and I'm using ES File Explorer to access the files. I do get random reboots due to the Nexus overheating say after an hr of video play directly from the HD.
aznduk said:
You don't really need the Nexus Media Importer app to access external hard drive files.I'm on Cm10.2.0 and I'm using ES File Explorer to access the files. I do get random reboots due to the Nexus overheating say after an hr of video play directly from the HD.
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True - I was responding from the perspective of a stock device. I haven't seen the reboots - are you overclocking with Cm?

[Q] Recommended External Storage?

I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
IMHO without root you can not use any external media since USB mounting is not supported out-of-the-box.
Raymondo17 said:
I'm curious what external storage devices folks are using with their Fire TVs to avoid the low-memory warnings. Are you using large hard drives, or little thumb drives? If the latter, is 32GB enough?
Here's a link to something I was considering using for external storage: A tiny, low-profile USB 3 flash drive with 32GB of storage:
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra...Z43-032G-G46/dp/B00LLER2CS/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
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I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which
is IMHO totaly fine.
How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.
Calibaan said:
How do you mount it? My non-rootable aTV does not recognize storage devices on USB.
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Your device must be rooted.
Ah, OK so nothing new. Thought I´ve missed something.
I'm using an older Western Digital My Passport 320gb and mounted my internal data to it. I connected it to a small powered hub and also have a wireless mouse/keyboard dongle and wireless game controller connected to the hub. It works wonderfully. Only a slight delay compared to having data still on the FTV itself.
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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Exactly. I first tried a flash drive I had laying around. It turned my FTV into a slow crawl.
derpeter said:
I use a 32GB USB3 Stick which (on USB3) write about 60mb/s and reads about 80mb/s. I never testet it on USB2. In direct comparation of two firetvs running asphalt8 one from emmc one from USB the USB firetv is about a second later in the game which is IMHO totaly fine.
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Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
KCFish said:
Your performance will always be limited to the transfer speeds of whatever external storage you're using. So it's not as easy as saying use HDD over USB Flash or vice versa. You can use either, just be sure that what you use has good transfer rates.
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An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?
Raymondo17 said:
Good to know, as I'd read that USB sticks would offer lousy performance.
An excellent point. I did find a thumb drive, the Kingston Digital HyperX 3.0 Data Traveler, with what appears to be good transfer rates: 225MB/s read and 135MB/s write.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...99462&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+HyperX+MAX+3.0
For around the same price, I could get this Toshiba Canvio portable drive, which would hold over ten times as much data, but I can't seem to pin down the exact read/write times. The stats say up to 480 Mb/s transfer rate, which does sound pretty good to me.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-Canvi...2683&sr=1-16&keywords=external+usb+hard+drive
Another question I have is whether using a USB 3 drive would even matter since the Fire TV is only USB 2?
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Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.
derpeter said:
Most USB3 stick have faster controller and faster memory then the old USB2.0 versions. It is hard to find a fast USB2.0 Stick so you may be better of buying a USB3 stick and use it on the USB2.0 port of the aftv. (Which not mean that there are no slow USB3.0 sticks)
I can also recomment the sandisk extrem 32GB USB3.0 stick its even faster then the one in my tests but that should not matter on the USB2.0 port of the firetv.
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Excellent. Thanks for the info.
I used my old 128gb ssd samsung evo 840 as whole System. fast like normal System. No slowdown. i use an active usb 4 Port hub also connected Xbox 360 Wireless Transmitter usb dongle for Wireless mouse+Keyboard. One Thinge i can't use a Second harddrive as external.
dowsn't Sebamed to work as i use datatousb from cwm Post. Maybe only usererror. bussymount killed my Setup (Boot from usb)
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4k Max - Won't recognize 256GB USB Drive

So I have a SanDisk 256GB Ultra USB 3.0 Flash Drive that I want to use with my 4kMax firestick. But the stick won't recognize the drive. I have the same SanDisk drive in 128GB that works just fine in the firestick but this 256GB won't. It's formatted in Fat32 so I have no idea what the problem is. I've read other folks using drives larger than 128GB just fine so I'm confused as to why I'm having issues.
Any help much appreciated. Thanks!
So... on a whim I plugged in a USB hub and the drive works now. I have no idea why a hub is necessary to make the drive work but it's working so I guess all good. Thanks!
byproxy said:
So... on a whim I plugged in a USB hub and the drive works now. I have no idea why a hub is necessary to make the drive work but it's working so I guess all good. Thanks!
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If it worked on a powered USB HUB, it's maybe a power issue!?
The sticks power supply is a bit weak.

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