If I purchase an unlocked Note 8 and use it on Verizon, is Verizon able to limit my hotspot after 15 GB? I am on their new unlimited plan. Or does the unlocked phones native hotspot avoid reporting the amount of Hotspot usage to Verizon.
Marko5400 said:
If I purchase an unlocked Note 8 and use it on Verizon, is Verizon able to limit my hotspot after 15 GB? I am on their new unlimited plan. Or does the unlocked phones native hotspot avoid reporting the amount of Hotspot usage to Verizon.
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Locked or unlocked there is no data caps internal to the device. Limiting is done by the provider by terms of service and contract. Things can change between sign up and whenever. The only limits that can happen without hitting the data cap are from pay as you go service balance, and breach of contract. Some plans rate data per day or peak hours. Not sure with Verizon.
Check with Verizon on your data usage online. Verify what you have used over what Android reports in settings connections / data usage. If it adds up between the two, then your good.
You should be asking on Verizon's forum about their plans and features.
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My GSM GNex is unlocked and rooted.
It is on stock JB.
The carrier is AT&T.
Since the carrier has blocked the downloading of the app. FoxFi I would like to know if a similar application is offered on Google Play.
I am on a 3GB data plan and my monthly usage is a whopping 200MB max a month.
My idea is not to do something wrong but in rare instances (like broadband down) I would like to use my phone as a hot spot.
In the meantime I must disagree with AT&T policy which wants to charge for tethering while I cannot enjoy the unused MB of my plan.
If I use tethering I do not want to be discovered by the carrier.
Recently I asked AT&T to use for few hours the tethering capability of the phone. The answer was I could do this only if I had a 5GB data plan.
I must point out I made this request because my DSL (AT&T being the provider) was down. It took AT&T 8 full days to fix their own issue
If you install cleanrom can you tether without a hotspot plan or does at&t disallow such? Also with at&t purchase of verzion 700mhz spectrum does the fcc agreement now apply to at&t ? (this is for a tierd plan not unlimited)
to the first part of your question--you don't need a plan. cleanrom "unlocks" this feature when you normally need a hotspot/tethering plan. as long as you don't stream movies and get carried away with tethering every single day, you should be fine. i believe they CAN detect unauthorized usage if it's extreme.
2nd part--no idea. sorry.
Well the plan is a tiered plan so usage would be limited; but someone had said somewhere that if they detect tehtering they automagically upgrade your plan. My actual usage (I'm currently with verizon and thinking of switching) is below 1GB. I just don't want to get suckered into a 5GB plan with very limited data usage.
jryuuu said:
to the first part of your question--you don't need a plan. cleanrom "unlocks" this feature when you normally need a hotspot/tethering plan. as long as you don't stream movies and get carried away with tethering every single day, you should be fine. i believe they CAN detect unauthorized usage if it's extreme.
2nd part--no idea. sorry.
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here's the message:
The plan for line ********** on your account includes unlimited 4G LTE data on-smartphone only. It also comes with up to 7GB of 4G LTE data for Smartphone Mobile HotSpot to share your phone's internet with other devices. T-Mobile's systems have detected that this line has actively used methods that conceal Smartphone Mobile Hotspot usage and, as a result, significantly exceeded the 7GB limit on its plan. This activity violates our Terms and Conditions. To enforce our Terms and Conditions and protect the network experience for all our customers, continued violation will result in the line being ineligible for its current plan and moving to our 1GB limited 4G LTE plan. Details at http://t-mo.co/1J4PTjw
I have an unlimited plan with T-Mobile. This month I only used about 80 GB's (which is low compared to most months. I typically use about 200 GB). The other phone on my account is a ATT Note 2, it's rooted and unlocked. We've used 180 GB's this month. The Note 2 number did not get the message. I know T-Mobile is pushing out this for people getting around the unlimited tethering. I've never had issues though with the year I've been with them. They're stating people are using 2TB's and that who they're going after for 3000 users. I'm nowhere close to that.
I'm running BlissPop on my d851. I recently did a wipe to install an update. Before I started tethering I forgot to switch the APN from IPV6 back to IPV4. IPV6 is much more traceable, and I know for stock d85* roms for Prime Tether it rids the ipv6 to enable tethering.
Could this be the main reason they caught me? I switched back to IPV4, but I'm weary to start tethering again. Do you think I'm flagged and screwed now? Or should IPv4 and a VPN conceal me?
Any input would be help
No. They are cracking down. Go look in the general discussion section for tmobile. I have a thread about this exact issue.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3189003
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Test ipv4 as well. I can still tether to my tablet and my PC with a UI switcher. However, i can no longer tether on my PS3.
Yeah everything I read they are just screwing people. I also received a notice of excessive VPN use. I'm not hosting, I'm only a VPN user. I cut my unlimited on both my phones. I'll be switching to a prepaid carrier. When I signed up they said I had unlimited tethering. Tmobile switched my plan without my knowledge. It's BS.
I love how 1 number gets the notice and one didn't. We used a total of 790 GB's with the combined phones 1 month and had no issues. No throttling either. Averaged 35 Mb/s We just stream a lot of video.
After cutting the plan and calling COX out where I live, they gave us 50MB/s (not Mb/s) for $30 a month. cutting down to 3GB on each phone actually is saving me $10 a month. So screw TMobile. I'm actually averaging 75MB/s anyway
just wondering if anyone is running CM12 or are you all using stock rom?
blisspop is cm12 based and that's what i'm using
Punkrocknerd said:
here's the message:
The plan for line ********** on your account includes unlimited 4G LTE data on-smartphone only. It also comes with up to 7GB of 4G LTE data for Smartphone Mobile HotSpot to share your phone's internet with other devices. T-Mobile's systems have detected that this line has actively used methods that conceal Smartphone Mobile Hotspot usage and, as a result, significantly exceeded the 7GB limit on its plan. This activity violates our Terms and Conditions. To enforce our Terms and Conditions and protect the network experience for all our customers, continued violation will result in the line being ineligible for its current plan and moving to our 1GB limited 4G LTE plan. Details at http://t-mo.co/1J4PTjw
I have an unlimited plan with T-Mobile. This month I only used about 80 GB's (which is low compared to most months. I typically use about 200 GB). The other phone on my account is a ATT Note 2, it's rooted and unlocked. We've used 180 GB's this month. The Note 2 number did not get the message. I know T-Mobile is pushing out this for people getting around the unlimited tethering. I've never had issues though with the year I've been with them. They're stating people are using 2TB's and that who they're going after for 3000 users. I'm nowhere close to that.
I'm running BlissPop on my d851. I recently did a wipe to install an update. Before I started tethering I forgot to switch the APN from IPV6 back to IPV4. IPV6 is much more traceable, and I know for stock d85* roms for Prime Tether it rids the ipv6 to enable tethering.
Could this be the main reason they caught me? I switched back to IPV4, but I'm weary to start tethering again. Do you think I'm flagged and screwed now? Or should IPv4 and a VPN conceal me?
Any input would be help
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if you typically use 80gb then you are putting a target on your account. No matter what you bypass they will know cause there not messing around anymore. The best way to go unnoticed is to subscribe to an Internet provider. Where I live around 30gb they cap you.
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Hello once again,
So (thanks to everyone that helped me on the previous thread, appreciate it) I have an US Unlocked HTC 10 with root access right now. (Besides Adaway) My main reason for having root is because I've seen in the past the possibility to bypass the tethering restriction from occurring. This, because they offer an, "Unlimited" Data plan that doesn't have hotspot for some reason.
Now then, is it possible with this current phone, and if so;
1- Does AT&T tend to detect this bypass (WiFi, USB/both)?
2- How complex would setting the bypass be in this case?
3- Am I being dumb and is USB tethering not considered hotspot to them?
Thank you in advanced.
They can monitor network metadata to see if you're tethering or not even if you use root to disable the check.
You should try foxfi/pdanet and a VPN. (You could do the hack and use a VPN but there's some more steps involved) and that will cover you.
As far as that plan itself goes: it's the unlimited prepaid. It's capped at half the network speed of their lte network as well as a few other things. If you only use around 10 gigs a month the 45 dollar plan for 6 gigs + 20 dollars on 3 more gigs and it's the same price and tethering is included by default at uncapped speeds (until the limit is it)
If you still want an unlimited one than from what I've read cricket wireless's unlimited is the same price and the same network without the stupid restrictions on speed
I bought the regular, non-Verizon unlocked Pixel 3 XL from Google directly. I'm considering changing my data plan with Verizon, and my main consideration is HotSpot usage.
I imagine the Verizon Pixel 3 XL tells Verizon when I'm using HotSpot, but can the regular, non-Verizon branded Pixel tell Verizon when I'm using HotSpot? I'm also using AdGuard with VPN, so that might obfuscate it to Verizon even more.
Yes they can. VPN only hides what ur doing not how ur connected.
How can they tell? Does Android "tag" the data in some way when it's using HotSpot?
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/co...vz_see_when_you_use_native_tethering/d5wma6j/
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How can they tell? Does Android "tag" the data in some way when it's using HotSpot?
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Ok....
It is not detectable,*but using tethering on Android with an second device leaves a lot of traces:
User-Agent Headers within HTTP that come from non-mobile browser
Increased Traffic consumption
Connection to services that are not available on Android/Smartphone devices (e.g. World of Warcraft)
and many more I can't think of atm.
Even when you use VPN each device that sends or request data will broadcast ur Mac address IMEI etc. Their are ways around it but it's so much easier to just go legit. Verizon has unlimited anyway so y do u need to hide it?
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Verizon has unlimited anyway so y do u need to hide it?
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Because Verizon doesn't really do "unlimited" plans anymore; they have a plan that gives you 4G speeds on hotspot until 15GB, and other plans that throttle hotspot capped at 600 Kbps. Or no hotspot at all.
They also keep changing this every few years, which is pretty annoying as it gets really confusing.
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Because Verizon doesn't really do "unlimited" plans anymore; they have a plan that gives you 4G speeds on hotspot until 15GB, and other plans that throttle hotspot capped at 600 Kbps. Or no hotspot at all.
They also keep changing this every few years, which is pretty annoying as it gets really confusing.
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Damn I'm really sorry to hear that. However that is the case now anywhere no one offers truly unlimited anymore and everyone's hotspot is now capped at a certain limit but I didn't think you would be getting 600 kg per second I figured it would be at least 3 g but then again I see some people get kept at 2G so thank your stars on that part that you're not getting kept the 256 kilobytes per second
I have unlimited at Verizon, and Hotspot as well. Been on this plan for over a year.