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Zenwatch vs Gear Live ??

Hi guys ,
I am going to buy my first android wear and I cant decide between these two :
Gear Live
Zenwatch
Which one is better ?? and Why >??
both have every thing but
the gear live : heart rate monitor , looks more spotry | its cradle sucks , samsung is slow in updates
Zen watch : Looks more premium , its cradle is fine ( not good as the lg g though ) | ( Some people say that asus is slowly in updates as samsung but I have never used asus phone before so I dont know )
thx in advance

Mem_0 said:
Hi guys ,
I am going to buy my first android wear and I cant decide between these two :
Gear Live
Zenwatch
Which one is better ?? and Why >??
both have every thing but
the gear live : heart rate monitor , looks more spotry | its cradle sucks , samsung is slow in updates
Zen watch : Looks more premium , its cradle is fine ( not good as the lg g though ) | ( Some people say that asus is slowly in updates as samsung but I have never used asus phone before so I dont know )
thx in advance
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The price also plays a big factor. Zenwatch is great for the price. Trust me you wont be using the heart rate monitor at all during your daily use.
And the biggest plus point is Zenwatch has speakers so with next update it might start working. And there you go.
Cheapest yet decent smart watch with speakers
Hope this helped. I own a LG G R.

Actually, the 1st gen Zenwatch doesn't have a built in speaker, only a microphone (the Zenwatch 2, however, definitely has one).
Asus might be a bit slow on updates, but they have said that they are working on the Android Wear 1.4 update, due by the end of March. (I can't speak for Samsung smartwatches, as I've never owned one.)

itechnoguy said:
Actually, the 1st gen Zenwatch doesn't have a built in speaker, only a microphone (the Zenwatch 2, however, definitely has one).
Asus might be a bit slow on updates, but they have said that they are working on the Android Wear 1.4 update, due by the end of March. (I can't speak for Samsung smartwatches, as I've never owned one.)
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Got the update today. Not sure all the details though.

Any body already bought the phone ??

Hey Peeps,
I am planning to buy this phone very soon in India...!! As always expecting cool Development stuff to be started on this Phone. If anybody has bought the phone, it would be great if you could spark up the discussion here in the forums.
How good is the Display ?? How are the Dual Cameras ?? Battery Backup ?? stuff like this.

Hello! I'm from Brazil and I bought one, here are my review:
-The screen is very good, does have a good brightness control (low is very dark and high is very clear.
-Speaker is not stereo, but I believe they removed that option on past devices already, but is very loud for a one-speaker.
-Battery can reach to a entire day plus half the next day if you use it moderately.
-Does not have a dual camera, this option is only for G5 plus not G5S - but for a 16mp camera its very good, and the frontal one (5MP) looks it does have decent quality on daylight ( I did not tested on during the night), does have led flash on both sides (frontal led =) and backwards led)
-I tried the dual window function and I left twitch app running in pop-out mode (it like to have 3 windows at same time) and the phone did no have any problem to execute them.
- does not have NFC
-If I'm not doing it wrong if you have the dual version the external sd card can be put on sim 2 slot but you will lose the dual sim function.
thats it, overall I liked the device and covered most of my needs but I really miss a root/recovery and bootloader unlocked at least to use xposed functions which I miss the most. But lets hope somebody help us with cool devs stuff!
Any other question I might have missed, let me know!
Hope to help you in your decision =)

Hi. Got it Today in Germany. I'm very sad about there is Case Available in Germany. I haven't Unboxed it. Its Birthday Gift for my Daughter. Have you a Case or a Link for some?
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Bought it today and so far I'm loving every aspect of it (my previous one was a Moto G 2014). I just really wanted to install TWRP and root but I only found methods for the G5S Plus. Does anyone know any way of doing it?

Got the phone for a few days now after destroying my Sony Z3 compact and like it so far. Camera and screen are very nice. Battery lasts 2 days so far, now at 29% on the 3rd day.
- does not have NFC
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Not true. I used NFC to start the migration from the old phone.

Hello all!
Got G5s a couple of days ago; I'm moving from a Nexus4 and I was looking for an Android stock experience.
Pretty satisfied of phone: good screen and general usage, I'm loving fingerprint sensor and gesture associated to it!
I'm waiting for G5s modding because I'm missing root I hope G5s' threads will populate in next days...
I'm only disappointed about battery duration (just a full day, not more than this) but I have a strange battery consumption by 'Google Play services'... anyone has the same problem?

- Very pleased with the phone. It's less bulkier and does look better in real life than in review video's on youtube.
- Battery lasts almost two days and a turbocharger is included.
- Screen is beautiful. Had my S7 edge on 1080p default and in my opinion this is as good.
- Fingerprintreader is great and extremely fast (compared to the S7edge) and I like the swipe thing.
- Loudspeaker could be better but it's okay
- On apps like Plex and Netflix I do not loose my connection with the chromecast anymore
- Love the almost stock UI and the moto features
- 16mp camera is okay
I did install the moto key apk from the X4, so I can login to websites with my fingerprint. Lenovo should have made it available to the G5S too, because it just works, so why not include it.
Looking for a good phonecase now. Any suggestions?

florian.frick.5 said:
Hi. Got it Today in Germany. I'm very sad about there is Case Available in Germany. I haven't Unboxed it. Its Birthday Gift for my Daughter. Have you a Case or a Link for some?
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Am in the same boat here in SE Asia can't find a case or a screen protecter and had the phone around 6 days now ..

Bought it two days ago for my wife.
+ screen is nice
+ aluminium unibody feels premium
+ fingerprint sensor is good
+ camera is OK, missing OIS
+ battery is good
- OS updates lag - no new ones for WIFI KRACK vulnerability. OS version is from June
- searching or case still
- speaker volume is average. Though good output.
Price performance is very good.

update came today. Oct 1 security patch and bugfixes.

I have few questions about this phone:
My phone will came to me tomorrow
Working fast? No lags with fb,messenger apps?
Games working OK? For example Asphalt 8 or Real Racing 3,much lagging?
battery is good?( in my p8 lite is very bad....)
thanks for answers!!

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update came today. Oct 1 security patch and bugfixes.
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I haven't got any updates.... August Patch
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If Oreo is to be, it's gonna be late

Hello friends and family!
As I stated at one of my first posts if Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus should get official update from Samsung to Android 8 Oreo it will not be soon.
Based on what's been happening so far and back last year I'll say we'll get it in June 2018.

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Hello friends and family!
As I stated at one of my first posts if Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Plus should get official update from Samsung to Android 8 Oreo it will not be soon.
Based on what's been happening so far and back last year I'll say we'll get it in June 2018.
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Just use the custom nexusOS 8.1.0 rom

godkingofcanada said:
Just use the custom nexusOS 8.1.0 rom
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No hurry to update.
Especially if it means turining touchwizz into Samsung Experience.
During official Oreo update.

I must say Oreo did not improve my battery life. It dies slightly faster if anything. And my phone never got hot before oero. Warm yes, but not hot like my s7.

godkingofcanada said:
I must say Oreo did not improve my battery life. It dies slightly faster if anything. And my phone never got hot before oero. Warm yes, but not hot like my s7.
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So F**k Oreo. Android7 is ok. We can make it using it

androidbadboy said:
So F**k Oreo. Android7 is ok. We can make it using it
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Android 7 is ok. Oreo has some improvements I really prefer however. While I can get split screen on nougat too, Oreo has a screen in a screen so I can watch YouTube and put it into a smaller box and keep the rest of my screen for my game or browsing , the UI is also a bit better looking and the system is faster overall. No real lag or wait for things to open and run. But like any new OS the first few versions are plagued by bugs. I was fortunate enough to be able to fix all of mine and it's running smooth. Except NFC. But really.... Its NFC. I don't use it. Kernel auditor and background restrictor improved the battery. The heat issue I've not defeated yet. Its obvious its pushing the Gpu harder then necessary, it's currently only happening when a game runs. Maybe if I slow the max core speed and or take 2 of the 8 offline it will correct it

godkingofcanada said:
Android 7 is ok. Oreo has some improvements I really prefer however. While I can get split screen on nougat too, Oreo has a screen in a screen so I can watch YouTube and put it into a smaller box and keep the rest of my screen for my game or browsing , the UI is also a bit better looking and the system is faster overall. No real lag or wait for things to open and run. But like any new OS the first few versions are plagued by bugs. I was fortunate enough to be able to fix all of mine and it's running smooth. Except NFC. But really.... Its NFC. I don't use it. Kernel auditor and background restrictor improved the battery. The heat issue I've not defeated yet. Its obvious its pushing the Gpu harder then necessary, it's currently only happening when a game runs. Maybe if I slow the max core speed and or take 2 of the 8 offline it will correct it
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yep, same here, no use for NFC (yet).
This split screen, is it something like KNOX to divide pro and priv stuff or just like 2 Tabs in a web browser?
This "split screen" is a bit unfortunate name now cause Xiaomi (dual apps and something else I forgot the name) uses something like that to do what KNOX does.

androidbadboy said:
yep, same here, no use for NFC (yet).
This split screen, is it something like KNOX to divide pro and priv stuff or just like 2 Tabs in a web browser?
This "split screen" is a bit unfortunate name now cause Xiaomi (dual apps and something else I forgot the name) uses something like that to do what KNOX does.
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It's a screen in a screen. Like watching youtube in the corner while playing a game or surfing the web. Or splitting the screen Into two equal halves to do two different tasks at once

godkingofcanada said:
It's a screen in a screen. Like watching youtube in the corner while playing a game or surfing the web. Or splitting the screen Into two equal halves to do two different tasks at once
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Ohh ok.
I must use caution, cause like I've said Xiaomi uses simmilar names for different features. Thank You!

i actually just released a version of 8.1 oreo that i ported from lineage 15.1 and nexusOS to zenlte and zenltecan
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...-oreo-canadian-s6-edge-plus-american-t3760682

OREO is not coming to our beloved S6E+

Should I get this phone?

Hi guys, currently using Mediapad M5 but I'm starting to get a little bored and frustrated with things I thought I could live with like no headphone jack and no ear speaker. Thinking about getting the Mate 20 but I have a concern. I'm a dedicated user of Nova Launcher and have read about people having difficulty changing the launcher. Is there something I can look out for when buying the phone to ensure I have a version that will allow me to delete the Huawei launcher or change the default? Also I'm interested in anything else you guys can advise me to look out for. I'm in NJ and I use ATT. I'm assuming I should be looking for the international version, but other than that I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks.

steveyal said:
Hi guys, currently using Mediapad M5 but I'm starting to get a little bored and frustrated with things I thought I could live with like no headphone jack and no ear speaker. Thinking about getting the Mate 20 but I have a concern. I'm a dedicated user of Nova Launcher and have read about people having difficulty changing the launcher. Is there something I can look out for when buying the phone to ensure I have a version that will allow me to delete the Huawei launcher or change the default? Also I'm interested in anything else you guys can advise me to look out for. I'm in NJ and I use ATT. I'm assuming I should be looking for the international version, but other than that I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks.
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Hello there!
I am a big fan of big phones and I understand why you would want this phone, its dual speakers are great and headphone jack sound is the best I have heard with dolby atmos.
You can only change launcher on global version (EVR-L29) like mine, non-stock launchers work great!
I suggest you to buy the global version and not chinese for less bloatware, working notifications, working 3rd party launchers, fully working rom out of the box and gapps.
There are 2 versions of the phone Global and Chinese; Global version is EVR-L29 while the chinese version has 2 variants - normal EVR-AL00 and a branded china telecom version EVR-TL00
I personally got my phone from a local store near my home which luckily had the evr-l29 in stock, but I suggest to look on amazon for internation version or ask some people here

Thanks Omer!! Are you in the US?

steveyal said:
Thanks Omer!! Are you in the US?
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No problem!
No im not from USA

steveyal said:
Thanks Omer!! Are you in the US?
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I'm in the USA, and I agree with Omer.

I'm in the USA and have this phone. It works great on att but here is the problem. With a locked bootloader you have no options once Huawei stops supporting it. I have the Chinese version so you deal with little quirks here and there as well.

I got mine when I was in hong Kong. Everything works perfectly including google, nova launcher. And works in Canada on all networks so I assume the US should be good as well.
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I got rid of my tablet and only use my Mate 20 X phone and laptop. My Mate 20 X has replace my tablet. I watch movies and shows on it all the time. I initially thought that 7.2 inches is too small to watch movies. 8.4 or 10.5 would be better. BUT after a few weeks, this is the perfect size for consuming media for me and it's light enough for the pocket. I don't miss my tablet at all. I sold my phone, tablet and laptop and only use this Mate 20 x and a PixelBook. Happy as hell!
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steveyal said:
Hi guys, currently using Mediapad M5 but I'm starting to get a little bored and frustrated with things I thought I could live with like no headphone jack and no ear speaker. Thinking about getting the Mate 20 but I have a concern. I'm a dedicated user of Nova Launcher and have read about people having difficulty changing the launcher. Is there something I can look out for when buying the phone to ensure I have a version that will allow me to delete the Huawei launcher or change the default? Also I'm interested in anything else you guys can advise me to look out for. I'm in NJ and I use ATT. I'm assuming I should be looking for the international version, but other than that I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks.
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It's a fantastic phone, fast, pictures look great, videos not as good as an iphone. But I'd hold off if you can until September to see what happens with Google, etc...

baskinrobbin said:
It's a fantastic phone, fast, pictures look great, videos not as good as an iphone. But I'd hold off if you can until September to see what happens with Google, etc...
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I dont agree with you about holding off and videos, the videos I took look way better than my friends xs max.
I wouldnt hold off, huawei confirmed that every existing device will still get updates and security updates as well as confirming emui 9.1 june 27 and android q request for mate 20 x. they wont remove gapps or android from existing phones but future ones wont have them

Thanks for all the input. I will likely pull the trigger this week. So just to confirm, with the EVR-L29, I should have no problem using Nova Launcher, correct?

steveyal said:
Thanks for all the input. I will likely pull the trigger this week. So just to confirm, with the EVR-L29, I should have no problem using Nova Launcher, correct?
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Correct. With the global version EVR-L29 you can use any launcher you want. See attached..

If you have the root time, you can change it in Chinese easily
Wysłane z mojego EVR-AL00 przy użyciu Tapatalka

steveyal said:
Thanks for all the input. I will likely pull the trigger this week. So just to confirm, with the EVR-L29, I should have no problem using Nova Launcher, correct?
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Get it, You won't regret it. Best phone I've ever had. I replaced my Note 9 that I had for only 2 months with this phone. And I barely use my tablet now.
But make sure you put a glass screen protector and a nice case before you use it. The glass one on Amazon is perfect.
The only thing I don't like is Telegram App does not always toast new messages. The OS automatically kills some apps that run too often in the background.
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gcappa said:
Get it, You won't regret it. Best phone I've ever had. I replaced my Note 9 that I had for only 2 months with this phone. And I barely use my tablet now.
But make sure you put a glass screen protector and a nice case before you use it. The glass one on Amazon is perfect.
The only thing I don't like is Telegram App does not always toast new messages. The OS automatically kills some apps that run too often in the background.
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But you have the options to remove apps from that self killing "feature" though

Considering buying this phone

Hey guys I've been researching about new phones since my asus zenfone 2 broke last month. So far I have only found these phones to my liking because I hate screens bigger than 6 inch and/or phones that are taller than 149 mm,: A2 lite, redmi6, redmi 7A and Nokia 5.1 plus
out of all these only nokia and a2 lite seems to be the best bang for buck, since I couldnt try nokia 5.1 plus anywhere in my coutnry : turkey, I decided to get A2 lite. I would buy 7a but the brand Redmi on the bottom of the phone is even more distracting than notch. Maybe if you have knowledge should I wait for A3 lite, if it will be less than 6 inch that is ?
My concerns are these:
- is the notch distracting when using, I have never used a notched phone before?
- for how long will this phone get updates, and is the android 9 experience stable?
- I have small hands and I wonder if this phone will be too large

I use this phone for about 4 months now. I received it with Android Oreo, but right out of the box I was prompted with the Android Pie 9.0 with April Update. The phone worked flawlessly except:
- a problem with UHC-1 SD card that was constantly unmounting and mounting that was fixed by a Class4 standard SD Card, apparently there is a problem with the power management for the UHC sd cards.
Pictures are awesome - former Sony camera user so I love the quality, the phone battery is great, 2 days minimum between charges.
The phone slightly heats up when used heavily but that is not a problem. Also gets a little warm while quick charge.
The screen notch is not a problem to be honest. It's like a normal FHD display without losing the upper part to the status bar, now with the icons placed to the left and right of the notch.
A new problem appeared this month, with the July update, when you rotate the screen from landscape to portrait the screen kinda blinks and then the animation continues.
Signal is good, wi-fi speed is ok, 4g works ok. Android 9 is stable so far for me, except the new glitch.
The big form factor of the device is not a problem to be honest, for small hands there are a few options. For example if you can't reach the status bar, you can enable the fingerprint swipe that brings notifications down and back up. From left to right, I think any small hands can reach.
Also for the accessories, the iPhone XR screen protector works just fine. And cases are cheap and good.

TheoXSD said:
The big form factor of the device is not a problem to be honest, for small hands there are a few options. For example if you can't reach the status bar, you can enable the fingerprint swipe that brings notifications down and back up. From left to right, I think any small hands can reach.
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This is the exact problem I was looking an answer for, thanks for the detail. I really find it hard to reach for the notifications.
One last question: will this phone get the android 10 update when released?

comstok said:
This is the exact problem I was looking an answer for, thanks for the detail. I really find it hard to reach for the notifications.
One last question: will this phone get the android 10 update when released?
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Yes. Android One project make the manufacturer to give 2 major updates and monthly security updates. Until now, every 20th of the month we get the current month security update and some bugfixes.
This phone already got a major update which is Pie. So the last major update will be Android Q so yeah, Mi A2 Lite is on the Android Q update list.

TheoXSD said:
Yes. Android One project make the manufacturer to give 2 major updates and monthly security updates. Until now, every 20th of the month we get the current month security update and some bugfixes.
This phone already got a major update which is Pie. So the last major update will be Android Q so yeah, Mi A2 Lite is on the Android Q update list.
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Do you think the A3 lite will be like this or bigger like 6.2 inch etc ?

comstok said:
Do you think the A3 lite will be like this or bigger like 6.2 inch etc ?
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Mi A3 specs here: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_a3-9769.php