It's forcibly locked. Just curious if that's likely to be changed anytime soon.
I know they can.. When HTC opened their devices to unlocking the bootloader they did it with a flashable update.. And we already know the rest of them are unlockable, so I don't think it would be that hard.. However whether it was an oversight or intended, I don't know. I've tried posting on there official forums and tweeted them, but seen no response to either. Hopefully someone else has better luck getting a reply. I'd really like to see it since they have aosp code for their other devices.
I was thinking about this and not sure if it would work.. I'm no developer by far.. But what if we got the official images for the g3223 from Sony site and flashed those.. Would the bootloader still be locked? I know the images contain everything (bootloader, radio, and system) so if we we got the US g3223 images and flashed them,wouls it work? Or even a non-freedom image (original direct from Sony Canada)?
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I was thinking about this and not sure if it would work.. I'm no developer by far.. But what if we got the official images for the g3223 from Sony site and flashed those.. Would the bootloader still be locked? I know the images contain everything (bootloader, radio, and system) so if we we got the US g3223 images and flashed them,wouls it work? Or even a non-freedom image (original direct from Sony Canada)?
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i doubt a non-freedom image would work. that would be scandalous if it did work tho. freedom hasn't deployed anything since the June updates..................................................
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It's forcibly locked. Just curious if that's likely to be changed anytime soon.
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I got the bootloader code right from Sony along with videos & flash program
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I got the bootloader code right from Sony along with videos & flash program
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For the Canadian g223 model?
I have my bootlock unlock code from Sony. But without fastboot access we are screwed. Freedom branded G3223 have gotten the shaft. Hopefully some method gets released for now it's all a waiting game.
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For the Canadian g223 model?
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Yes for tge G3223
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Yes for tge G3223
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What flash program is this? share some bootloader unlock results when you have a chance. Thanks! :good:
poy said:
What flash program is this? share some bootloader unlock results when you have a chance. Thanks! :good:
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This.
Related
The S4 has a locked bootloader according to Engadget..
If you're hoping to run custom ROMs in place of TouchWiz, you may have to wait for a little while since Samsung has confirmed to us that the bootloader is locked
Why would Samsung start doing this out of the blue? Their devices have always been very easy to root and customize. Seems a little odd that they would do this.
Ok, you could post in the S4 thread itself since it exists as of a little while ago, or you could post in the Off Topic other devices thread since this forum is for the S3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1884701
wow a locked bootloader; what the !!!! BIG time strike against the phone
HTC One Bootloader is still unlockable
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Irish Enigma said:
HTC One Bootloader is still unlockable
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Any HTC bootloader is unlockable. Do you have s-off/nand-unlocked yet? Exactly. Makes flashing roms a PITA.
I know what phone I'm not using my upgrade on now
I love the 90s. Good times.
E The Magnificent said:
I know what phone I'm not using my upgrade on now
I love the 90s. Good times.
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I say to heck with it all and go with a nexus.
CNexus said:
Any HTC bootloader is unlockable. Do you have s-off/nand-unlocked yet? Exactly. Makes flashing roms a PITA.
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Not that I'm a big supporter of HTC or anything, but their newest Bootloader unlock lets you flash kernels via recovery, even with S-On. The only limitations is flashing modified radios without HTC's signature.
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Not that I'm a big supporter of HTC or anything, but their newest Bootloader unlock lets you flash kernels via recovery, even with S-On. The only limitations is flashing modified radios without HTC's signature.
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Really? I know that viper was writing the boot.img differently in his roms because the s-on wouldnt let you do it otherwise
goblue30093 said:
The S4 has a locked bootloader according to Engadget..
If you're hoping to run custom ROMs in place of TouchWiz, you may have to wait for a little while since Samsung has confirmed to us that the bootloader is locked
Why would Samsung start doing this out of the blue? Their devices have always been very easy to root and customize. Seems a little odd that they would do this.
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What carrier of the S4 they were referring to?
Infected anTPRax
the engadget review was of the T-Mo, but probably all of them will be this way.
masaidjet said:
What carrier of the S4 they were referring to?
Infected anTPRax
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Good point.
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the engadget review was of the T-Mo, but probably all of them will be this way.
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In that case, I doubt it. The verizon S3 came with a locked bootloader, whereas the Sprint version did not.
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Good point.
In that case, I doubt it. The verizon S3 came with a locked bootloader, whereas the Sprint version did not.
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That, and another thing, I'm surprised other tech sites didn't report this locked bootloader news after having their time playing with their test units.
Infected anTPRax
I believe THIS is the article the OP is referring to. But as CNexus said, it might not be locked on Sprint. But honestly it doesn't matter to me. I will not be Upgrading to the S4. It really doesn't blow me out of the water with Features, Screen, or anything else. Not to mention eventually most of those new features we will be able to have on our S3's .
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Really? I know that viper was writing the boot.img differently in his roms because the s-on wouldnt let you do it otherwise
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https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/WykbCAAVcrv
This is where I got my information from. Flashing Roms via recovery will be fairly simple on HTC One.
Overstew said:
https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/WykbCAAVcrv
This is where I got my information from. Flashing Roms via recovery will be fairly simple on HTC One.
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Ok well, thats not right. On HTC devices (only exception I know of is the EVO 4G), having s-on makes the boot partition unwriteable, except via fastboot and some other hacks
I just got finished helping this guy get his phone booting again. He flashed a rom for the international HTC One and was bootlooping even after flashing another rom. Fastbooting the boot.img fixed him right up.
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Ok well, thats not right. On HTC devices (only exception I know of is the EVO 4G), having s-on makes the boot partition unwriteable, except via fastboot and some other hacks
I just got finished helping this guy get his phone booting again. He flashed a rom for the international HTC One and was bootlooping even after flashing another rom. Fastbooting the boot.img fixed him right up.
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After reading the comments, you're right. I was misinformed.
Want to know what else is or will be locked? This thread..lol
Sad to see sammy start doing this, last years policy was, if a carrier wants a locked bootloader, sammy will give them one....I hope the new policy isn't locked bootloaders come standard.
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Want to know what else is or will be locked? This thread..lol
Sad to see sammy start doing this, last years policy was, if a carrier wants a locked bootloader, sammy will give them one....I hope the new policy isn't locked bootloaders come standard.
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Well for all we know T-mobile wanted the gs4 to have a locked bootloader, and that's why they did it. At least I hope that's why. :/
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Well for all we know T-mobile wanted the gs4 to have a locked bootloader, and that's why they did it. At least I hope that's why. :/
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I hope so as well, but att's s4 is also locked. bad sign
Saw a post on reddit and twitter that TWRP is almost ready. Has anyone come across further info yet?
Also any ideas when we may start seeing some solid development work?
Thx guys
bdt1978 said:
Saw a post on reddit and twitter that TWRP is almost ready. Has anyone come across further info yet?
Also any ideas when we may start seeing some solid development work?
Thx guys
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Twrp should be available this weekend then the roms should start coming
This is exciting to read.... Where should we check? Thank you for the reply !!!!
I can't wait, TWRP is just the beginning, then the ROMs will come.
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Whooooooooooo
I can't wait ....
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Twrp should be available this weekend then the roms should start coming
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TWRP for the T-Mobile variant, correct? I haven't seen a confirmation from anyone that the bootloader is unlocked for the other variants.
Will twrp work on all variants out of interest
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TWRP for the T-Mobile variant, correct? I haven't seen a confirmation from anyone that the bootloader is unlocked for the other variants.
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Did they find a way to unlock it and use TWRP? I know what you mean because normally that's the case unless there is a work around. In really hoping this will happen for all models of the G3.
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Did they find a way to unlock it and use TWRP? I know what you mean because normally that's the case unless there is a work around. In really hoping this will happen for all models of the G3.
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T-mobile variant is factory unlocked. There was a picture posted on Twitter of a supposed D850 running TWRP, by Autoprime I think, but nothing has come out officially yet.
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This is exciting to read.... Where should we check? Thank you for the reply !!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development should be in here but not yet
Im very confused. From what i gathered from the devs they are releasing everything for all devices at the same time, i.e. a universal bootloader tool, or is this not the case anymore...im itching to get my bootloader unlocked and this isnt an ask for an eta or anything, im just wondering if i have got my wires crossed. My d855 has been rooted since day one with no issues and im worried my bootloader will forever be sealed.....is the tool people are saying is available this weekend, the universal bootloader unlock?
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Im very confused. From what i gathered from the devs they are releasing everything for all devices at the same time, i.e. a universal bootloader tool, or is this not the case anymore...im itching to get my bootloader unlocked and this isnt an ask for an eta or anything, im just wondering if i have got my wires crossed. My d855 has been rooted since day one with no issues and im worried my bootloader will forever be sealed.....is the tool people are saying is available this weekend, the universal bootloader unlock?
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They're working on a universal root first. I could be wrong, but I expect the release this weekend will be TWRP for the T-Mobile variant.
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Im very confused. From what i gathered from the devs they are releasing everything for all devices at the same time, i.e. a universal bootloader tool, or is this not the case anymore...im itching to get my bootloader unlocked and this isnt an ask for an eta or anything, im just wondering if i have got my wires crossed. My d855 has been rooted since day one with no issues and im worried my bootloader will forever be sealed.....is the tool people are saying is available this weekend, the universal bootloader unlock?
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you "gathered" wrong..
dev's usually release things when they get them working perfectly, and have a safe way for N00bs to install things without immediately bricking their precious devices.
"Universal" bootloader tool is a pipe dream so dont hold your breath waiting for that
Rumors are just that; rumors, so when your phone's bootloader gets unlocked, you will surely know for sure; until then, its all just SWAG..
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you "gathered" wrong..
dev's usually release things when they get them working perfectly, and have a safe way for N00bs to install things without immediately bricking their precious devices.
"Universal" bootloader tool is a pipe dream so dont hold your breath waiting for that
Rumors are just that; rumors, so when your phone's bootloader gets unlocked, you will surely know for sure; until then, its all just SWAG..
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Are you one of the devs working on bootloader unlocks...? Because the ones i know definitely are seem to disagree with what you are saying, despite what devs 'usually' do.
From what i see here, it is universal root and universal unlock they are looking to achieve.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/bounty-lg-g3-d855bootloader-unlocking-t2807900/page21
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Are you one of the devs working on bootloader unlocks...? Because the ones i know definitely are seem to disagree with what you are saying, despite what devs 'usually' do.
From what i see here, it is universal root and universal unlock they are looking to achieve.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/bounty-lg-g3-d855bootloader-unlocking-t2807900/page21
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They are looking for a universal root for all the variants.
They are also trying to unlock all the variants.
They think that unlocking one variant might allow the unlocking of other variants, but not necessarily all variants.
They are not looking for a 'universal' unlock in the same way that they are looking for a 'universal' root.
I used the Korean version cwm recovery . it works.
I used the Korean version cwm recovery . it works.
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No prob
Unlocked BL needed?
Does this work on the VZW varient without an unlocked boot loader. Nobody has posted a working bootloader unlock for the VZW z2 tab SGP 561 so i can't load anything that installs or uses a kernel other than factory.
Ofcourse is someone has a working bootloader unlock method im open to that too.
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Does this work on the VZW varient without an unlocked boot loader. Nobody has posted a working bootloader unlock for the VZW z2 tab SGP 561 so i can't load anything that installs or uses a kernel other than factory.
Ofcourse is someone has a working bootloader unlock method im open to that too.
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Not sure Just do a back up and try
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Not sure Just do a back up and try
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did backup and tried... no go... had to flash stock to get tablet up and running again. sad face
imaverik said:
did backup and tried... no go... had to flash stock to get tablet up and running again. sad face
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sorry to hear
Tested and everything right :good:
imaverik said:
Does this work on the VZW varient without an unlocked boot loader. Nobody has posted a working bootloader unlock for the VZW z2 tab SGP 561 so i can't load anything that installs or uses a kernel other than factory.
Ofcourse is someone has a working bootloader unlock method im open to that too.
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Your like me still waiting for VZW to release 4.4.4 i bought this thing to remote play and it does not seem like it's going to happen anytime soon.
Why, Verizon, why?
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Your like me still waiting for VZW to release 4.4.4 i bought this thing to remote play and it does not seem like it's going to happen anytime soon.
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I'm in the same boat muchlove. Damn. Anybody with Verizon connections out there? Put in a call for us poor bastards? I would unlock it but I'm paranoid that because it's a VZW device, the typical unlock either won't work or worse brick it. I know these things are pretty brick-proof - or at least can be un-bricked but still...I'd rather follow the instructions of somebody who's been through it on this VZW Z2. I just cannot wait to have a remote 10.1 monitor to my PS4. Every day seems like a week.
So I'm wondering if any intrepid dev is willing to compile TWRP for our lovely phone. I am willing to contribute to a fund for whoever is able to get a functional version of the recovery.
This is such a nifty phone. The WW version works great in the US, and it'd be nice if we could get full functionality sooner than later.
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So I'm wondering if any intrepid dev is willing to compile TWRP for our lovely phone. I am willing to contribute to a fund for whoever is able to get a functional version of the recovery.
This is such a nifty phone. The WW version works great in the US, and it'd be nice if we could get full functionality sooner than later.
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Well for starters, we'd need the bootloader unlocked (as per Asus) and a preferably better rooting method to get started. Other than that, you'll be pleased to know that we may end up receiving OFFICIAL TWRP since DeesTroy is planning to get a Zenfone 2!:thumbup: (as mentioned here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60352547)
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I thought the bootloader was already unlocked, as you can push system.img via bootloader. Or does the locked bootloader only prevent the changing of the boot.img file?
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I thought the bootloader was already unlocked, as you can push system.img via bootloader. Or does the locked bootloader only prevent the changing of the boot.img file?
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I don't really have the details on that, I'm only reiterating what was confirmed by a mod on the Zentalk forums that it is indeed locked. It's rather interesting that we can flash through it, but I'm not really experienced in bootloader unlocking enough to tell what's going on.
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mrbubs3 said:
So I'm wondering if any intrepid dev is willing to compile TWRP for our lovely phone. I am willing to contribute to a fund for whoever is able to get a functional version of the recovery.
This is such a nifty phone. The WW version works great in the US, and it'd be nice if we could get full functionality sooner than later.
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Are you sure that the WW version works great since it doesn't support Band 17 (700MHZ) which is mainly used by AT&T?
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Are you sure that the WW version works great since it doesn't support Band 17 (700MHZ) which is mainly used by AT&T?
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I use T-Mobile, so perhaps those limitations do not apply to me. I have not seen anyone reporting on service issues with AT&T at the time of posting.
The difference between a locked and unlocked bootloader is that a locked bootloader only accepts signed packages (packages built with the unique keys from Asus) while an unlocked bootloader will accept packages signed by anyone.
The rooted images are signed by Asus themselves, which lets us flash them through a locked bootloader.
If you push a system.img not signed with Asus' keys your device will not boot.
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The difference between a locked and unlocked bootloader is that a locked bootloader only accepts signed packages (packages built with the unique keys from Asus) while an unlocked bootloader will accept packages signed by anyone.
The rooted images are signed by Asus themselves, which lets us flash them through a locked bootloader.
If you push a system.img not signed with Asus' keys your device will not boot.
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That's ^ said by people who never tried it by himself.
Locked bootloader won't boot unsigned kernel images only (you can flash them through fastboot, but won't be able to boot). This includes recovery.img and boot.img. There is no signature in system.img, that's why you can flash pre-rooted system.img an boot.
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That's ^ said by people who never tried it by himself.
Locked bootloader won't boot unsigned kernel images only (you can flash them through fastboot, but won't be able to boot). This includes recovery.img and boot.img. There is no signature in system.img, that's why you can flash pre-rooted system.img an boot.
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Feel free to try and unpack, modify, and pack system.img. Then feel free to attempt to flash it.
Hey, so maybe instead of having a pissing match between superusers/devs, can we perhaps focus on the task of seeing how probable it will be to unlock the bootloader/compile TWRP?
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Hey, so maybe instead of having a pissing match between superusers/devs, can we perhaps focus on the task of seeing how probable it will be to unlock the bootloader/compile TWRP?
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if asus follows its usual pattern, they'll have a bootloader unlock tool released eventually
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Feel free to try and unpack, modify, and pack system.img. Then feel free to attempt to flash it.
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I did it already. Works fine. I've uploaded pre-rooted system.img in this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/orig-development/rom-pre-root-img-t3079590
What i'm doing wrong?
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if asus follows its usual pattern, they'll have a bootloader unlock tool released eventually
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I hope so. I am itching to make this my DD. After that, I would need TWRP, a more robust kernel, and a nifty protective case to make me firmly comfortable. Then I say au revoir to my Moto G 2014.
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Are you sure that the WW version works great since it doesn't support Band 17 (700MHZ) which is mainly used by AT&T?
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I'm in Dallas on At&t and no complaints here. My girl is in PR at the moment and all good too. So I'd say check your zone and what bands it runs thru.
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I'm in Dallas on At&t and no complaints here. My girl is in PR at the moment and all good too. So I'd say check your zone and what bands it runs thru.
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Are you getting 4g or 4gLTE and which firmware are you using. My Z00A is not getting 4gLTE atm on ATT in dallas (plano), only getting 4g. Currently connected on Band 5 not band 17
yeah Im getting 4gLTE but im not running stock firmware.
GREETINGS;
A simple Poll, now that @shakalaca has given us this great gift, are you going to unlock your ZF2 BL?
Thank you.
Yes, my Zenfone 2 is free now. hehe
will do it when i see the first nighty form CM12.1
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will do it when i see the first nighty form CM12.1
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Unlocked and ready. I am guessing we will have a non tethered twrp soon, and then the real fun will begin.
Waiting for the 2.19 update for my ZE550ML, hopefully, this will still be possible when it comes out =)
my phone doenst have bootloader lock..
i see this
"bootloader: unknown"
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my phone doenst have bootloader lock..
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That doesn't mean it's unlocked. Mine showed the same. I have a North American version.
You should unlock your Bootloader, IMO.
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Waiting for the 2.19 update for my ZE550ML, hopefully, this will still be possible when it comes out =)
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I am in the same boat. Is there a way to force the ota? I don't want to download the ota from a random place unless it is confirmed to work.
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That doesn't mean it's unlocked. Mine showed the same. I have a North American version.
You should unlock your Bootloader, IMO.
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okay then. what i will get if i unlock the bootloader?
what is the purpose? to flash custom kernel or custom rom? :laugh:
i know about bootloader on SONY devices but i dont know about ASUS devices.
Not until TWRP is available
I will at some point, just waiting to see if decent roms show up that make it worth it. Given the intel chip we cannot assume development will thrive.
Otherwise I might as well just keep it locked with easy OTA's. I'm pretty happy with stock
I'm waiting for different kernels and roms. I'm excited this has already been completed. I had an at&t note 3 before the ZF2. They still have a locked bootloader. The kernels for the unlocked note 3s were pretty impressive. I'm looking forward to playing with the ZF2
Yep. Already unlocked. Just waiting for non-tethered custom recovery and the 5.1.1 update!
But I'm sticking with stock or stock-like ROM. AOSP on non-AOSP devices always results in losing features and capabilities.
i unlocked yesterday morning, waiting for all the goods to start
Can't as my 551ml still has not received the ota.
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Can't as my 551ml still has not received the ota.
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I don't think Asus will push this OTA update to are devices, but you could always manually install it
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Unlocked.