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Just went on emui.huawei.com to copy and provide a link of an EMUI 5 update for an user in need, and this i what I've got (see pic in attachment). Huawei already removed almost every package from their consumers site, and the page will be even closed standing to what is wrote on the pop-up notice... What do you think about this (in my opinion) bad move that Huawei choose to make about update packages?
What a strange move with a pure PR reason given too
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What a strange move with a pure PR reason given too
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Seems really an hazardous movement since that i don't think that the problem could ever be servers costs the packages are extremely useful particularly for customers allowing them to restore soft-bricked phones...
That is awful, what if someone got a bootloop and needs a package?!
What a stupid move from Huawei. I feel more comfortable by going to an official site and download the firmware from there, but now Huawei will make lots of users uncomfortable
Thats bad. noob user who brick their phones may have found such things useful now they are stuck
Meh...
Not a big deal. My Mate 9 does not have any update packages to begin with on that site so i use this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
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Meh...
Not a big deal. My Mate 9 does not have any update packages to begin with on that site so i use this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
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Ofcourse there is backup frok Team MT.
But official is something different. 3rd party may shutdown anytime as they basically might be taking the packages from backend Huawei database and if they restrict then we may be stuck
Huawei you should think again .. And think again with your bootloader unlocking server .. You remembered me apple strategies !!
What's wrong with them ,why on earth they did this , this is just bad
PalakMi said:
That is awful, what if someone got a bootloop and needs a package?!
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Yeah the necessity to have a secure package ready to flash that could fix your phone is the thing that matters most, minding at the fact that developers could rely on original sources...
Kizoky said:
What a stupid move from Huawei. I feel more comfortable by going to an official site and download the firmware from there, but now Huawei will make lots of users uncomfortable
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Exactly my point of view and even my feeling about it man.
shashank1320 said:
Thats bad. noob user who brick their phones may have found such things useful now they are stuck
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Even not-noob users that count on finding official firmware directly by OEM official site!
Prolim123 said:
Meh...
Not a big deal. My Mate 9 does not have any update packages to begin with on that site so i use this
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tools/general/huawei-firmware-finder-team-mt-t3469146
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Yes but firmware finder never could be satisfying compared to an accurate package SURELY compatible with your phone variant, provided by your phone's manufacturer, and so, 100% working!
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Ofcourse there is backup frok Team MT.
But official is something different. 3rd party may shutdown anytime as they basically might be taking the packages from backend Huawei database and if they restrict then we may be stuck
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I know. Just wanted to say that it's not all doom and gloom just because Huawei did it
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I know. Just wanted to say that it's not all doom and gloom just because Huawei did it
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No one said this by what i can read, it's simply a move that (with no doubts) leave users perplexed.
I had my hopes in Huawei/Honor, but this is one big step back in my opinion. Supplying the customers with downloadable firmware packages is the least you could expect. That's a shame.. ?
My next phone will not be from Huawei.
Seems like Huawei is trying it's best to make it's services worst in Mobile Phone market. Good try Huawei, you had good days and as I said you "had".
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Supplying the customers with downloadable firmware packages is the least you could expect. That's a shame.. ?
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Definitely agree with you, is just the minimum that a person could except from his phone's brand. Even the time that they keep supporting phones on updates is minor than other manufacturers, (Samsung for example) and they decide to remove released packages too now.
Ugh. As a Mate 2 user I thought my firmware had disappeared due to age. Now apparently this is a trend for Huawei. Can you say "forced obsolescence" folks?
For what it's worth, I did find the following link from Huawei that seems to house the firmware:
http://m.huawei.com/pkmobile/consumer/support/downloads/index.htm
Got to it from my phone; haven't tried it from my desktop.
But who knows how long that will last?
I got mine from my device support page where you'd find the manual and stuff:
http://consumer.huawei.com/kw-en/support/products/downloads/mediapad-t1-7-kwen.htm
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For what it's worth, I did find the following link from Huawei that seems to house the firmware:
http://m.huawei.com/pkmobile/consumer/support/downloads/index.htm
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Can't find my BLN-L21 package, but at least it's still something. We'll see how much it'll last...
Jhnoth said:
I got mine from my device support page where you'd find the manual and stuff:
http://consumer.huawei.com/kw-en/support/products/downloads/mediapad-t1-7-kwen.htm
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On this page, my phone isn't even listed for technical definitions
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Can't find my BLN-L21 package, but at least it's still something. We'll see how much it'll last...
On this page, my phone isn't even listed for technical definitions
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Same here! Thankful I downloaded Emui 3 (Lollipop) for MT2-L03 a while ago. My phone has long since disappeared.
Another thing: I sent a technical question to the Huawei Emui team almost a week ago - still no response. Coincidence? Hard to believe this isn't somehow related. And I don't usually wear tinfoil hats.
I'm in the US so I'll have to import it. I've seen the places to buy and gearbest says 1 year of repairs. Reviews say they weasel their way out of most things though. Also saw it works on AT&T pretty well. Been comparing a bunch of phones and this one stands out the most, but I couldn't find everything I wanted to know, hoping you guys can help.
1) Is it worth considering gearbest as a warranty or consider it a no warranty purchase?
2) What about safetynet? Will things like netflix work without sideloading if I don't unlock the bootloader? Hulu, Android pay, whatever future bs starts checking it? I use my phone for Netflix plenty.
3) Is there a difference in the eu rom I've seen mentioned and global rom?
4) Assuming I'd want the global phone, do I need to flash it after that for any reason?
5) how clunky is video chat with the front camera location? Does it work well in landscape mode (preferred)?
6) did I miss anything worth knowing? ?
Thanks to whoever answers! Trying to scratch the new phone itch. Might wait to see what drops at mwc.
1) Expect no warranty at all
2) On Global Stable ROM, yes.
3) Yes. Xiaomi.EU is a community ROM based on china dev. Global ROM is an official Xiaomi ROM
4) If you buy a "global" version you don't have to flash it, it comes with global stable preinstalled. It doesn't matter what version you get though, all the same HW wise.
5) You have to turn the phone around, doesn't work in some apps (Snapchat I believe?). In landscape mode it works just as well(or bad?) as a normal front facing camera, what's the actual difference if you hold the device in landscape mode?
6) Buy this beautiful phone..
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I'm in the US so I'll have to import it. I've seen the places to buy and gearbest says 1 year of repairs. Reviews say they weasel their way out of most things though. Also saw it works on AT&T pretty well. Been comparing a bunch of phones and this one stands out the most, but I couldn't find everything I wanted to know, hoping you guys can help.
1) Is it worth considering gearbest as a warranty or consider it a no warranty purchase?
2) What about safetynet? Will things like netflix work without sideloading if I don't unlock the bootloader? Hulu, Android pay, whatever future bs starts checking it? I use my phone for Netflix plenty.
3) Is there a difference in the eu rom I've seen mentioned and global rom?
4) Assuming I'd want the global phone, do I need to flash it after that for any reason?
5) how clunky is video chat with the front camera location? Does it work well in landscape mode (preferred)?
6) did I miss anything worth knowing? ?
Thanks to whoever answers! Trying to scratch the new phone itch. Might wait to see what drops at mwc.
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1 - As good as no warranty.
2 - flash global rom and ur good to go as it has all google services installed.
3 - Yup, global rom is the best
4 - flashing is not a big issue, u just download a file and put it in your phone and use updater app to flash it. No unlocks or tough stuff.
5 - video chat is pretty bad. Not the phone if u do lot of video chats. Front camera on whole is pretty bad to be truthful.
6- Camera should not be ur priority and stay away from this phone if u like stock interface. Other than that this phone is a beauty.
Thank you guys so much you've been really helpful!
Do not buy Xiaomi Mi Mix 2.... Buy the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S...to be released very very very soon.... all the shortcomings of the Mix 2 fixed plus more! I was on the verge of buying the Mix 2 but then heard of the imminent release of Mix 2S...so hang fire and order the new beauty
Rajinn said:
1) Is it worth considering gearbest as a warranty or consider it a no warranty purchase?
2) What about safetynet? Will things like netflix work without sideloading if I don't unlock the bootloader? Hulu, Android pay, whatever future bs starts checking it? I use my phone for Netflix plenty.
3) Is there a difference in the eu rom I've seen mentioned and global rom?
4) Assuming I'd want the global phone, do I need to flash it after that for any reason?
5) how clunky is video chat with the front camera location? Does it work well in landscape mode (preferred)?
6) did I miss anything worth knowing? ?
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1. No warranty at all, better use aliexpress.
2. In last global development version AP does not work without magisk safetynet fix.
3. Not much
4. Sellers flash global rom as usual.
5. Nice
6. Notification LED is only white
elio321 said:
Do not buy Xiaomi Mi Mix 2.... Buy the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S...to be released very very very soon.... all the shortcomings of the Mix 2 fixed plus more! I was on the verge of buying the Mix 2 but then heard of the imminent release of Mix 2S...so hang fire and order the new beauty
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I was thinking about waiting until after mwc to pick a phone so that's not a bad idea. Have to see how much the new one costs too, I'm on a budget and have to buy two =/
Does it do screen mirroring?
Android 10 was released on September, Xiaomi said that they will update Mix 3 on October, But looking at the situation it's started getting ridiculous, we're now at the end of February which is 5 month over the schedule and we have got nothing. I don't care if Android 10 is not different from 9, I paid for a flagship and I should get a flagship service, not to mention this is also applies for the Android security patch which is pretty old and last updated on October. Also the forgotten 5G variant which still running on MIUI 10. Is this is a joke? really?? if anyone knows who to contact from the company so we can gather and make a demand on extending our device support since we didn't get anything for a long time.
Xiaomi was a good company I don't know what's happening to it.
Xiaomi release about 37 phones every couple of weeks.
They can't support all of them. They've now scrapped the Mix line completely and it seems they've given up on the users.
My next phone probably won't be a Xiaomi device.
China has received Android 10 on the mix 3 a few weeks ago, only a matter of time before we get it, the virus must be the cause of the delay
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Xiaomi release about 37 phones every couple of weeks.
They can't support all of them. They've now scrapped the Mix line completely and it seems they've given up on the users.
My next phone probably won't be a Xiaomi device.
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Yes it seems so, I'm giving them a chance and if nothing comes I'm leaving too.
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China has received Android 10 on the mix 3 a few weeks ago, only a matter of time before we get it, the virus must be the cause of the delay
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No, the virus is just an excuse, this is software development they can work remotely.
There's so many bugs, at least in my experience. Ghost notifications, broken app switcher sometimes, glitchy gallery, disappearing lock screen notifications, the ads in the cleaner app, and so on.
It's so disappointing, all of this on a seemingly orphaned flagship.
Disappearing lock screen notifications is "feature" according to them, kinda make sense but everybody, including me, is used to other way. Ads in Xiaomi app is also a feature, but this one you can change at least, you can do that by going into that apps settings and then find "recommendations" and turn that off..
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Yes it seems so, I'm giving them a chance and if nothing comes I'm leaving too.
No, the virus is just an excuse, this is software development they can work remotely.
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They may not be able to, it is entirely possible that the company does not allow IP (IE, the code) to be taken off site, or worked on remotely, and depending where the employees are, they may not have access to internet that is reliable and speedy enough to be conducive to remote development. Plus if some of the European news sources are to be believed, the true scale of 2019-nCoV may be 10x higher than what China is actually sharing with the world.
Your chances of getting anything by demanding it unless you are going to try to file a suit in China (good luck) are almost zero. I agree this device is not being treated as a flagship by Xiaomi, the Redmi and Pocophone devices that sold much better got much faster updates, which is not cool. It's also been the case for a while now that the global users are second fiddle to China ROM users.
Basically there's nothing any of us can do, except wait, unless you want to try to develop your own rom, which given what I've personally run into is anything but easy for this device. I was barely able to get Android 10 booting, and lots of things were broken.
Pocophones and Redmis has much higher development in India. Even if the devs in China were affected by CoVid, and halts development, for example the Poco or Pocophone's software dev could still be running in full course. Most of the releases are Indian-first, you just need to change region to India and you'll get the update. For the Mix 3, if they're solely based in China, it'll be affected by the outbreak, release will stagger for more months but you'd still get the update nonetheless, albeit not on the time you expect it would be.
Unless not getting an Android 10 upgrade makes your phone unusable, I don't see the reason why people whine on these types of things. I mean, get a Pixel if you want to experience the latest bugs from Android.
^^ I agree, and also people should have in mind that software for Mix line does not come with all the bugs, that come to Redmi and other phones, so yes, they might get update faster, but see how many users of those phones are complaing about bugs and searching for fixes, as far I could see there are not bugs on this phone. But update is released today, at least some users are reporting that, so we will see if hos it goes, maybe I'm wrong..
Update has been released today, based on Android 10.
Doesn't Google mandate that phones should be supported for 2 or 3 years?
No, this is not AndroidOne program
I'm confused... We do have Android 10. Global has had it for a while.
No update for the 5g.
Shame on you Xiaomi.
This is my last Xiaomi.
I've had Android 10 since 2019 on my Mi Mix 3.
I've posted this review on the c.mi forums, There isn't anywhere in the review section that I can find to post a full review so I'm posting it in discussion, mods feel free to move it if there is a better category.
But, I felt someone in the same situation as me that bought this phone to get [back] into android development might find this useful.
Hello all, After having a Redmi Note 8 Pro and using it as my daily driver for a little over a month, I've decided it's time for me to write a review.
First, I'll give you all a little background on me, I'm a developer of everything from webpages to hardware, and tech enthusiast of all kinds. I'm from the US(NA market) so my knowledge of the Indian and Chinese markets are a bit limited although I do know pretty much how the EU market works as they're normally marketed to the almost the same way as the NA market, at least when it comes to tech. I started developing for Android with my Google G1 way back in 2008 and have been on an off developing for different android phones since then on a variety of forums. From the now gone SDX-Developers to XDA and Android Forums.(Through many different accounts as everywhere but SDX seems to end with me getting in an argument and deleting my account.) This is my first Xiaomi phone. I will be giving a review both as a user and a developer.
Marketing:
In the NA market this phone is marketed as a budget flagship, or "flagship killer" if you will. Pushed mostly towards tech enthusiasts and developers.
Their marketing technique is very similar to that of OnePlus, however without the strong reputation behind it that OnePlus has. If Xiaomi wants to continue using this marketing technique here they have a lot of make up for, and a lot of work to do for reasons that will become apparent later in this review.
User Review:
As a user I'm moderately happy with my purchase, the phone itself feels quality and is beautiful(I have the pearl white one). The price was decent, costing me $225 USD for the 64GB/6GB version. The processor is quick and the UI is gorgeous and snappy. The screen has really nice Darks and the HDR implementation is really good looking....When it works(Fixed in the new A10/M11 release). However, the software is really buggy with MIUI optimizations turned on, which is a shame because they make quite a difference to the snappiness and feel of the device. Apps sometimes don't work properly, refuse to show in portrait mode, or just won't use the keyboard(such as the newegg app which I use to order hardware quite often). There are a significant lack of updates, having just now as of today(28th May 2020) recieved my first OTA(Which is useless to me, more on that later). This has been a problem that the community seems quite aware and little angry about for good reason, seeing as how my device is still on the Dec 2019 security patch, with multiple high-threat CVEs being released since then. The IR blaster is nice, but the Mi Remote app needs a lot of work. I remember it being much, much better when it was "Peel Smart Remote" and using it on my Samsung Galaxy S5. The gallery app misses most downloaded pictures, and is quite the pain to get working. This is a shame as it's the only way to change the lock screen background, other than the theme app. -1 point for broken DRM and bugs -2 points for lack of updates.
Oh I forgot there are Ads throughout the system. This is UNACCEPTABLE in the NA and EU markets, to date this is the only phone I HAVE EVER SEEN put ads in the system framwork. I have owned at least 150 different android phones. This is becoming more and more forced by tech companies throughout different devices, specifically Chinese oriented ones and will not fly for long in Western Markets(especially the EU which already limits advertising). We paid for our hardware, you've got your money, now it's just being greedy, intrusive, and posing a risk to device security. (e.g The "security" app that puts ads in your package installer) It's easy enough to disable, but not everyone is going to know how, or want to do that. -2 points just for the ads, and honestly should be more taken off, the quality of the hardware is what's stopping me from dropping it -4 points.
Overall User Rating: 5/10
Developer Review:
Let me start off by saying, once again, that in the NA market this phone is marketed as an Unlocked device for enthusiasts, or a budget flagship(Which personally I have seen very little of this advertising for) It's on the front page of the XDA forums. Rooting and development is an important part of the Android Community, in what I've seen ALL MARKETS globally. We will begin at the rooting process. Unlocking the bootloader comes with a wait time. This is due to unauthorized retailers flashing chinese and indian varients to global and selling them, filled with [more] ads. So the fact that there is a 168 hour wait time to unlock the bootloader is completely understandable and I will take away no points for that. They're protecting their reputation in the least intrusive way they could, you know what? I'll even give them an extra point for the way they handled that part, +1. Now let's go to install TWRP, where right on the website is says "WARNING: This device hard bricks really easily for unknown reasons. Restoring device without spending real money is impossible as of now. " -2 points. This should have been my first warning to buy a different device. A somewhat large, reputable, and rooting advocate development team is warning users not to use their product, that's a red flag, and should never be something you have associated with your device or company as a whole. TWRP has backlight bug which can be fixed with an adb command, and really isn't a big deal seeing as how TWRP probably went through multiple devices getting their recovery out. Then flash Magisk. That's it you're rooted. I have to give them a hand, rooting really isn't a big deal. But let's pretend we're a new user and accidentally flashed TWRP to the boot partition, well you're SOL now, you have a $225 brick. There is no coming back from this unless 1, You have an authorized MI account, which you almost certainly do not. or 2, you pay some sketchy person halfway across the world to RDP into your computer and use their authorized account to unbrick you, as well as the 80% chance they're going to drop a keylogger, ransomware or they're going to syskey your computer and now you're still SOL, but you might have your phone unbricked, not very useful without a computer and an empty bank account though. They handled the way unbricking works terribly, and without cause. -8 points To add salt on the wound they release the source code like they're doing the development community a favor when it's 100% useless without a reliable unbricking method. -2 points for putting on a show. Which is sad, because otherwise the phone would be a pleasure to develop for. For example, you're in a bootloop something in /system got messed up. You can just flash the system.img from twrp and recover without any data loss or bloatware reappearing. That's amazing! the phone is partitioned very well, and has lots of xml, props and stuff to tweak from the start. Also, a really cute fastboot screen as a plus. Unfortunately, Xiaomi.eu has dropped all support for this device, as well as any other MTK based phones.
Thankfully, some totally awesome person at Xiaomi "leaked" an engineering preloader which can help prevent bricks as long as it's not overwritten and you stay on android 9. But, the downside is, No Android 10, No MIUI 12, No anything other than MIUI 11 Pie. If they would release more lks along side the updates for developers this would be insanely helpful, and breath some life back into the RN8P/8/T development community.
Still, as a developer, and a normal person, I'm afraid to do too much to this device, or develop kernels, recoveries or ROMS because i'm terrified I'm going to be out $225 and my daily driver phone, that I can't afford to replace if something bad happens.
Development Score: 0/11
Guy who leaked preloader score: 10000/10
tl;dr If you're not into rooting or development this is a pretty decent phone with quality flagship hardware, if you can live with ads in your system, and the bug in some apps. There are ways to remove most of the ads without root, and it does still get updates, although rare. It's worth $180-$200 USD if you find it for a good deal. Although you could just get a used OnePlus 7 Pro for around the same price maybe $50-$100 USD more(depending on market) and be much happier all around.
Nice review, such detail
I wish i had read this before, i've bricked my phone trying to flash new ROM after i spent hours getting to a lower firmware and then getting TWRP to work, finally flashed android 11 rom to get a brick
0/10 rating by more than average user who was sick of MIUI
ezequielfilipesantos2000 said:
I wish i had read this before, i've bricked my phone trying to flash new ROM after i spent hours getting to a lower firmware and then getting TWRP to work, finally flashed android 11 rom to get a brick
0/10 rating by more than average user who was sick of MIUI
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Well, What a cocindence, I just gave someone a solution to install TWRP and root their stock ROM. Not a custom one though.
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Well, What a cocindence, I just gave someone a solution to install TWRP and root their stock ROM. Not a custom one though.
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Sure is, was that user using the latest miui version (android 10, miui. 12.0.5 i believe?)
I was also having problems flashing the TWRP ( latest one) recovery
I flashed but i didn't have sucess, it went into Redmi-Recovery 3.0
I had to get a old fastboot version of android 9.0 with muiu, flash it using miflashpro tools then, i had to flash the preloader ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-info-psa-redmi-note-8-pro-megathread-cfw.4056527/ )
Then i was able to flash the TWRP recovery and it worked
After that I tried flashing (after a wipe obviously, not going to flash dirty) Pixel Experience (AOSP) rom and it resulted in a bricked phone
10/10 I highly recommend the drama
Yeah the latest one.
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Yeah the latest one.
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How did you manage?
Was i doing something the wrong way? ( or all of it? ) ahahaha
Hello all! I have a galaxy s20 g980f stock with oneui 4 beta 1. What are my options to get rid of as much as possible bloatware, de-google, de-samsung etc.? im aware of adb debloating, but it has certain lmitations like knox. so what else? Custom rom? Which one is most debloated and 100% functional?
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Hello all! I have a galaxy s20 g980f stock with oneui 4 beta 1. What are my options to get rid of as much as possible bloatware, de-google, de-samsung etc.? im aware of adb debloating, but it has certain lmitations like knox. so what else? Custom rom? Which one is most debloated and 100% functional?
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De-bloating is subjective: one man's bloat is another man's treasure. Moreover, aggressive debloating tends to result in broken functionality and it is time consuming to track down the removed package that causes a failure.
Custom ROMs vary greatly in objectives and quality. At the end of the day, the only way you will get exactly what you want is to roll your own.
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De-bloating is subjective: one man's bloat is another man's treasure. Moreover, aggressive debloating tends to result in broken functionality and it is time consuming to track down the removed package that causes a failure.
Custom ROMs vary greatly in objectives and quality. At the end of the day, the only way you will get exactly what you want is to roll your own.
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Well, I cant agree here. I assume there is a common meaning for debloating - getting rid of all preinstalled software that has spying and advertising functions, and replacing it with analog functional software without spying and advertising parts. For example i uninstalled samsung keyboard and replaced with one of foss options.
Now the main and only problem I got is that i was not able to find official detailed explanation of each stock package - over 400 of them. Do you now where this can be found?
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Well, I cant agree here. I assume there is a common meaning for debloating - getting rid of all preinstalled software that has spying and advertising functions, and replacing it with analog functional software without spying and advertising parts. For example i uninstalled samsung keyboard and replaced with one of foss options.
Now the main and only problem I got is that i was not able to find official detailed explanation of each stock package - over 400 of them. Do you now where this can be found?
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This is exactly my point. I actually like the Samsung Keyboard. That said, if you *really" want every last piece of invasive software off, you will likely be better served with LineageOS or some other close descendant of AOSP. For what it's worth, one of the most invasive pieces of software on just about any stock device is Google Play Services. However, without it, most of the Google apps won't work, and plenty of other apps downloaded from the Play Store will have issues too.
The closest I've seen to a list of stock packages I've seen is this: https://docs.samsungknox.com/CCMode/G980F_R.pdf. It doesn't provide descriptions though.
As you encounter .apk files in the firmware package, here's an easy way to determine the package name from the occasionally less than informative file name:
Bash:
aapt dump badging file.apk | grep -Po "^package: \Kname=\'\S+?\'"
Attached is the list of bloat specs I used when building my image for the G986B culled from a variety of sources. It should serve as a useful starting point.
Try florisboard from f-droid, i personally found it perfect. But off course I understand your point, it is common too. I go radical, i deleted google play, framework and all google apps, i simply do not use any soft that requires google, for me its an affordable price for privacy and freedom.
By the way for debloating I am using AppManager from Muntashirakon, in ADB mode. I see the packages there, but no description, so yeah its a hit or miss. But there is an option to disable, then you see what happens and if problems you enable it back. Pretty decent, but not perfect. I wish I could root at least, but i guess need to wait for full A12 firmware and a matching TWRP recovery. Currently device is running on A12 Oneui 4 beta1.
Thanks a lot, I was going to ask you for this, where to start putting together own rom!!
Wondering, why are Calyx and Graphene roms not getting much attention here on XDA? And linux phones deserve some, even though they're technically not XDA..
The g980f in subject I just happen to have, if i would have to buy a phone now I wouldn't consider Samsung at all for the restrictions. Few months ago I disabled Samsung Pay Services - phone got locked irreversibly. I called Samsung and only option they offered is hard reset. Lost some sweet stuff with it and will never go Samsung again.
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Try florisboard from f-droid, i personally found it perfect. But off course I understand your point, it is common too. I go radical, i deleted google play, framework and all google apps, i simply do not use any soft that requires google, for me its an affordable price for privacy and freedom.
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That keyboard actually looks pretty good. That said, I don't have the patience to fully cut Google/Samsung out of my life.
and1ronik said:
By the way for debloating I am using AppManager from Muntashirakon, in ADB mode. I see the packages there, but no description, so yeah its a hit or miss. But there is an option to disable, then you see what happens and if problems you enable it back. Pretty decent, but not perfect. I wish I could root at least, but i guess need to wait for full A12 firmware and a matching TWRP recovery. Currently device is running on A12 Oneui 4 beta1.
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I don't know that you need an Android 12-based TWRP, but you definitely need a compatible version of Magisk. Modding is generally a lot harder when you're on the bleeding edge, and is further complicated by the fact that you can't roll back the bootloader; you'll never find me on the latest build. It looks like there is a Android-12 compatible Magisk Canary build but I haven't tried it yet.
and1ronik said:
Wondering, why are Calyx and Graphene roms not getting much attention here on XDA? And linux phones deserve some, even though they're technically not XDA..
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Because the Android phone market is too fragmented. Any custom ROM is available for at most a handful of the hundreds of actively marketed devices in the Android ecosystem.
Of course the bigger question is why we even need the abomination of an OS that is Android. In short, we don't: Sharp was already selling its Zaurus line of Linux PDAs 20 years ago. Google, however, decided it needed to insert itself into the mobile market, and the rest is history.
and1ronik said:
The g980f in subject I just happen to have, if i would have to buy a phone now I wouldn't consider Samsung at all for the restrictions. Few months ago I disabled Samsung Pay Services - phone got locked irreversibly. I called Samsung and only option they offered is hard reset. Lost some sweet stuff with it and will never go Samsung again.
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Samsung's "security" practices are obnoxious, though at least in the US, the carriers share plenty of blame for phones being locked down. That said, I have yet to find to find hardware that is more compelling--the lack of a SD card slot is a deal breaker.
By the way i am on beta oneui 4, and i'm not going to update to full A 12 yet, so I keep an option to go back to 11 anytime, and there I can go custom rom or root at least.
And the lack of sd card in pixels is the only thing holding me from switching too.. but very little, im actually going to get a pixel 5 as parallel to the s20. Lack of SD card can be partiality cured by cloud storage. I guess its less inconvenience comparing to struggling with samsung's bs..
From what i see online, pixels have widest rom options, Calyx, Graphene, e/OS, so I can experiment and see what works best for me.