I'm going to buy a Pixel XL soon, and while I can order from Google, Verizon would be cheaper for me. Is the Verizon version rootable right now?
ShadowTechXTS said:
I'm going to buy a Pixel XL soon, and while I can order from Google, Verizon would be cheaper for me. Is the Verizon version rootable right now?
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If you are going to get it from Verizon make sure you find one that is still on version 7.1. Currently bootloader can only be unlocked on this firmware. What I did is go to the Verizon store and asked them to look at all of their inventory of pixels. Look at the side of the boxes with all the barcodes try to find one that shows NDE63X H, L,P, or V should work too as those were 7.1. It will most likely be difficult to find one so you might have to visit a few Verizon stores. If you are lucky enough to find one make sure you tell them that you want to put in the Sim yourself. Take the phone home turn on usb debugging and then run depixel8 after that throw the Sim in.
So if I get a pixel xl from google, I can root it then put it on Verizon? Sorry about jacking the thread but I don't see the answer anywhere.
plisskenn said:
So if I get a pixel xl from google, I can root it then put it on Verizon? Sorry about jacking the thread but I don't see the answer anywhere.
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Their bootloader is already unlocked so you can out the Verizon sim and boot up and you'll still be okay.
alobear said:
Their bootloader is already unlocked so you can out the Verizon sim and boot up and you'll still be okay.
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Is there any risk of re-locking it somehow? Or am I free to flash and fiddle away?
plisskenn said:
Is there any risk of re-locking it somehow? Or am I free to flash and fiddle away?
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From Google you're fine flash and fiddle away. If you get it from Verizon unless you're able to get a 7.1.1 firmware from oct-nov2016 you cannot unlock and root it.
alobear said:
From Google you're fine flash and fiddle away. If you get it from Verizon unless you're able to get a 7.1.1 firmware from oct-nov2016 you cannot unlock and root it.
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Great thank you
0hfrankieboy said:
If you are going to get it from Verizon make sure you find one that is still on version 7.1. Currently bootloader can only be unlocked on this firmware. What I did is go to the Verizon store and asked them to look at all of their inventory of pixels. Look at the side of the boxes with all the barcodes try to find one that shows NDE63X H, L,P, or V should work too as those were 7.1. It will most likely be difficult to find one so you might have to visit a few Verizon stores. If you are lucky enough to find one make sure you tell them that you want to put in the Sim yourself. Take the phone home turn on usb debugging and then run depixel8 after that throw the Sim in.
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I have a question, could I get a normal Pixel XL from Verizon and flash the NDE63X software with ADB?
ShadowTechXTS said:
I have a question, could I get a normal Pixel XL from Verizon and flash the NDE63X software with ADB?
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Unfortunately you need an unlocked bootloader in order to flash older firmware.
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I'm stock 7.1.1 Verizon xl is there a way to root now or are we waiting
revolt1 said:
I'm stock 7.1.1 Verizon xl is there a way to root now or are we waiting
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Did you look in the development forum..
aholeinthewor1d said:
Did you look in the development forum..
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There's nothing there about root after update
revolt1 said:
There's nothing there about root after update
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There's no difference with root. You just can't unlock bootloader after the update. There are tons of threads about root already
aholeinthewor1d said:
There's no difference with root. You just can't unlock bootloader after the update. There are tons of threads about root already
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He can't use those root files with an unlocked bootloader
I wish VZW users would preface their thread titles with [VERIZON] so the rest of us could save a few clicks and just ignore them.
@revolt1,
Don't hold your breath waiting. I doubt there'll be a method to unlock VZW Pixel XL bootloader running 7.1.1.
7.1.1 locked up the bootloader again. Need to wait for an exploit. I'm finding .ore and more these days that stock Android is my fav without root now that I have a non-root AdBlock method.
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He asked about root and you guys are talking about unlocking, I'm confused.
jjayzx said:
He asked about root and you guys are talking about unlocking, I'm confused.
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Cuz you have to be unlocked to root. Unlocking is step one before you can do anything.
An update locked the bootloader? Thanks for this, I'll not be going to vz to get this phone. Now I'm wondering if the update that the Google bought phone gets when a vz sim is inserted (what I've read) will do the same?
Larzzzz82 said:
An update locked the bootloader? Thanks for this, I'll not be going to vz to get this phone. Now I'm wondering if the update that the Google bought phone gets when a vz sim is inserted (what I've read) will do the same?
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If you find one in stock it shouldn't have the update since it just came out last week. You can't remove sim and skip setup and don't connect to wifi. Then you can unlock before taking the OTA. That's what I did on my replacement pixel from best buy
Just to clarify, if you are already unlocked before taking the 7.1.1 update you will still be unlocked after update.
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Alright, let's get right to it.
I am receiving a replacement Pixel XL after sending my original one back to Google. I purchased my original Pixel from Verizon and sent back to Google a Verizon Pixel with a locked bootloader (from 7.1.1 patch). Few questions....
1. Am I receiving a Google pixel XL with an unlocked bootloader?
I have read that I can unlock the bootloader and successfully root BEFORE I set up wifi and put the SIM card in... So
2. Will the device ship with 7.1.1 (Verizon), ending any chance of me unlocking the bootloader?
3. If the device ships with 7.1, can I prevent the update being installed in the background?
I put a screenshot with the email from google about the replacement device below.
Splatlame said:
Alright, let's get right to it.
I am receiving a replacement Pixel XL after sending my original one back to Google. I purchased my original Pixel from Verizon and sent back to Google a Verizon Pixel with a locked bootloader (from 7.1.1 patch). Few questions....
1. Am I receiving a Google pixel XL with an unlocked bootloader?
I have read that I can unlock the bootloader and successfully root BEFORE I set up wifi and put the SIM card in... So
2. Will the device ship with 7.1.1 (Verizon), ending any chance of me unlocking the bootloader?
3. If the device ships with 7.1, can I prevent the update being installed in the background?
I put a screenshot with the email from google about the replacement device below.
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1a. It says Verizon but you won't really know til you get it.
1b. You can only do that if the phone comes with 7.1 to avoid it updating to 7.1.1
2. Verizon does seem to be updating some of the phones now and I would assume the refurbished will have a higher chance of it.
3. You can shut off automatic updates but it seems to ignore it at times, so you should unlock right away if you want to do anything in the future.
jjayzx said:
1a. It says Verizon but you won't really know til you get it.
1b. You can only do that if the phone comes with 7.1 to avoid it updating to 7.1.1
2. Verizon does seem to be updating some of the phones now and I would assume the refurbished will have a higher chance of it.
3. You can shut off automatic updates but it seems to ignore it at times, so you should unlock right away if you want to do anything in the future.
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Excellent answers.
One more question though, I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader. So let's say I'm able to lock the bootloader, install TWRP, and SuperSU, and then I put in my sim card so I can actually use the phone, will putting in sim card have any affect on anything?
Splatlame said:
Excellent answers.
One more question though, I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader. So let's say I'm able to lock the bootloader, install TWRP, and SuperSU, and then I put in my sim card so I can actually use the phone, will putting in sim card have any affect on anything?
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I have a Pixel XL that I purchased directly from Google and I use it on Verizon. Powering up the phone the first time with the Verizon SIM gave me a message that the phone was activated but it did not re-lock my bootloader. That was my experience. Originally it would only connect to 3G and not LTE. I had previously used it on Fi. I had to delete the data(NOT Factory Reset) from the Fi app(with the Fi SIM still installed) and then power down, switch SIM's, then power up to get full 4G LTE connection on Verizon. After I deleted that Fi app data and powered up with the Verizon SIM it selected the normal VZWINTERNET APN and worked fine. Hope this helps. Again though the Verizon SIM did not re-lock my bootloader. This isn't to say they won't try to re-lock it in the future with an update.
Splatlame said:
I read that when you put in a Verizon sim card, that's what triggers the locking of the bootloader.
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Not true. I have a VZW Pixel on Project Fi. My bootloader can not be unlocked.
Now does unlocking the bootloader with 7.1 before the update kicks in a confirmed solution? Has this been tested? Or this is a theory?
And if this is a real way of doing it can someone link me to a thread with a verified procedure or help me out here.
I want to be 100% sure by the time the device comes in.
Splatlame said:
Now does unlocking the bootloader with 7.1 before the update kicks in a confirmed solution? Has this been tested? Or this is a theory?
And if this is a real way of doing it can someone link me to a thread with a verified procedure or help me out here.
I want to be 100% sure by the time the device comes in.
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Here is what you need if it is on 7.1
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
TonikJDK said:
Here is what you need if it is on 7.1
http://theroot.ninja/depixel8.html
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That method does not work anymore.
bradhoschar said:
That method does not work anymore.
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He said if it's on 7.1
jjayzx said:
He said if it's on 7.1
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You're right.
On a side note, if anybody has a TRULY defective device on Verizon and want a Google replacement, see my post here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pi...-buying-verizon-edition-t3581406/post71866381
Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?
tornado6 said:
Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?
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You can not root it unless you unlock the bootloader. It has always been that way.
tornado6 said:
Hi All,
I got a bestbuy/verizon pixel xl and am unable to unlock my bootloader to install TWRP and Root my pixel
So, while i was searching for methods to root without unlocking bootloader, i found articles on rooting without TWRP. Is this method still supported on 7.1.2 and Verizon set pixel?
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I got a new one from Google but mine came from Google warehouse in Carol Illinois it's on October update tho so I can unlock mine if you ever get replacement device that's where it's coming from
Badazzmenc said:
I got a new one from Google but mine came from Google warehouse in Carol Illinois it's on October update tho so I can unlock mine if you ever get replacement device that's where it's coming from
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If yours is a Google version then it doesn't matter what update you are on, it will still be unlockable.
How do you know what version you have? I got my phone from Verizon but there is no bloat or Verizon anything on it. Could I possibly have a variant that can be unlocked?
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lowvolt1 said:
How do you know what version you have? I got my phone from Verizon but there is no bloat or Verizon anything on it. Could I possibly have a variant that can be unlocked?
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Simple, go to Setting/About phone, and tab the Build number text 5 times. Go back to Setting and select Developer options. If the OEM unlocking option is grayed out, it's a Verizon Pixel/XL, if you can toggle the slidder on and off, it's a Google Pixel/XL and can be bootloader unlocked anytime you want, regardless of update.
Seeing as how you purchased it directly from Verizon, I'm fairly certain it's a Verizon Pixel/XL. Any phone purchased directly from Google's Online Store, will always have the option to unlock their bootloader whenever they want.
Thank you. Unfortunately it is gray.
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lowvolt1 said:
Thank you. Unfortunately it is gray.
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What version of Android are you on. If it's on 7.1 still then you can still unlock.
So, i broke my direct from google pixel xl, that was unlocked. I had insurance through verizon and they sent me a new one. Now, i know the verizon versions are locked, which is what i didn;t want, but i had no choice through asurion. The phone i received is on NHG47L which isn't the verizon version, but the OEM unlock is still grayed out. can anyone tell me why i can't unlock even though this seems to be a google fi/tmobile build?
i have no put a sim in it yet, i've only connected it to wifi. i'm waiting till i have a firm answer one way or the other.
@Legacystar,
See post #25 > https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/oem-unlocking-disabled-google-store-t3507209/page3
cam30era said:
@Legacystar,
See post #25 > https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/oem-unlocking-disabled-google-store-t3507209/page3
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i did connect it to wifi, it did not change the OEM unlock option.
@Legacystar,
One can sideload any version of security update via ADB. If you've connected to internet and bootloader unlock is still grayed out, then it sounds like you do indeed have a VZW version.
cam30era said:
@Legacystar,
One can sideload any version of security update via ADB. If you've connected to internet and bootloader unlock is still grayed out, then it sounds like you do indeed have a VZW version.
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Would flashing a factory image do anything, maybe a previous version?
Legacystar said:
Would flashing a factory image do anything, maybe a previous version?
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If you can't unlock your bootloader, then you can't flash a factory image. If this is a VZW version, there's nothing you can do.
cam30era said:
If you can't unlock your bootloader, then you can't flash a factory image. If this is a VZW version, there's nothing you can do.
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so, if the bootloader was never unlockable, how would one change the software version?
Legacystar said:
so, if the bootloader was never unlockable, how would one change the software version?
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ADB sideload. Or wait for OTA to be pushed.
cam30era said:
ADB sideload. Or wait for OTA to be pushed.
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i meant, how did this phone's software get changed?
Legacystar said:
i meant, how did this phone's software get changed?
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The firmware is downloaded based on the sim in the device. Not where it was purchased
pcriz said:
The firmware is downloaded based on the sim in the device. Not where it was purchased
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So theoretically, I could purchase a VZW pixel XL never connect to WiFi or data, and get home insert a T-Mobile sim and check the "OEM unlocking" then unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then once I've flashed recovery and pure Nexus or any other rom install my VZW sim and profit?
mattwheat said:
So theoretically, I could purchase a VZW pixel XL never connect to WiFi or data, and get home insert a T-Mobile sim and check the "OEM unlocking" then unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then once I've flashed recovery and pure Nexus or any other rom install my VZW sim and profit?
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You still need to use the bootloader exploit before the firmware updates to 7.1.1, can't just unlock via fastboot like a play store model.
pcriz said:
You still need to use the bootloader exploit before the firmware updates to 7.1.1, can't just unlock via fastboot like a play store model.
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Well I bought the 128gig pixel XL. Didn't let the sales person activate it for me or turn it on. I got it home and pulled the Sim and started it up with no Sim or wifi. My luck the freaking lcd doesn't work. It responds to touch and the phone boots but the screen would not light up a bit. So I took it back and exchanged for another. ....did the same with the Sim and no wifi.... Booted and straight to "About Phone" and of course it's on 7.1.1 already. This is the first phone I've had in 5-6 years that wasn't rooted and bootloader unlocked. What makes it even worse is it's a Google branded phone. I can't believe Google allows VZW to lock it down like this.
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Well I bought the 128gig pixel XL. Didn't let the sales person activate it for me or turn it on. I got it home and pulled the Sim and started it up with no Sim or wifi. My luck the freaking lcd doesn't work. It responds to touch and the phone boots but the screen would not light up a bit. So I took it back and exchanged for another. ....did the same with the Sim and no wifi.... Booted and straight to "About Phone" and of course it's on 7.1.1 already. This is the first phone I've had in 5-6 years that wasn't rooted and bootloader unlocked. What makes it even worse is it's a Google branded phone. I can't believe Google allows VZW to lock it down like this.
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Verizon isn't the only carrier to lock it down. Google has never been implicitly root friendly, also I'm sure a partner ship with verizon is to their benefit. Like getting their foot in the door to a wider market. The trade off is the bootloader.
I've got my eyes on a unlocked Verizon pixel 3 XL that's unlocked. How deep is Verizon's software in the pixel and would it even be possible to fully convert it to a regular Google pixel?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/verizon-pixel-3xl-vs-google-pixel-3xl-t3863130
Please use the search function before posting a new topic. Multiple threads about the same thing only confuse and clutter. Thanks.
mac208x said:
I've got my eyes on a unlocked Verizon pixel 3 XL that's unlocked. How deep is Verizon's software in the pixel and would it even be possible to fully convert it to a regular Google pixel?
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If the bootloader is unlocked I don't see any reason you can't use the non verizon firmware on it. The devices themselves are identical, just the firmware is different. Note that I have not done this so you're at your own risk.
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jd1639 said:
If the bootloader is unlocked I don't see any reason you can't use the non verizon firmware on it. The devices themselves are identical, just the firmware is different. Note that I have not done this so you're at your own risk.
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As far as I know it's sim unlocked. If that's unlocked, bootloader should be unlockable as well right? Or how does the process go on the pixel?
On 6T it's you get a sim unlock, then you send a request application, once approved they send you a .bin to unlock the bootloader thru fastboot
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As far as I know it's sim unlocked. If that's unlocked, bootloader should be unlockable as well right? Or how does the process go on the pixel?
On 6T it's you get a sim unlock, then you send a request application, once approved they send you a .bin to unlock the bootloader thru fastboot
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No, sim and bootloader are two different things. You'd need the bootloader unlocked to flash the regular Google pixel firmware. Sim unlock just allows you to use the phone on different carriers.
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spotmark said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/help/verizon-pixel-3xl-vs-google-pixel-3xl-t3863130
Please use the search function before posting a new topic. Multiple threads about the same thing only confuse and clutter. Thanks.
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There was absolutely nothing helpful In that thread, just speculations.
jd1639 said:
No, sim and bootloader are two different things. You'd need the bootloader unlocked to flash the regular Google pixel firmware. Sim unlock just allows you to use the phone on different carriers.
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I understand the difference so In another words the bootloader is not unlockable on the Verizon one and there is no process for once it's sim unlocked like it is on the Oneplus 6T (where sim unlock is required in order to unlock bootloader)
mac208x said:
I understand the difference so In another words the bootloader is not unlockable on the Verizon one and there is no process for once it's sim unlocked like it is on the Oneplus 6T (where sim unlock is required in order to unlock bootloader)
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No you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant weather it is sim unlocked or not. However you can uninstall all the pre loaded Verizon apps. I had the Verizon model and was able to uninstall all the bloat. The only difference is the bootloader and being able to root.
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No you will not be able to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon variant weather it is sim unlocked or not. However you can uninstall all the pre loaded Verizon apps. I had the Verizon model and was able to uninstall all the bloat. The only difference is the bootloader and being able to root.
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Oh balls. So the only way it's to crack it? That's peachy
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There was absolutely nothing helpful In that thread, just speculations.
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The very first post in that thread says the VZW bootloader can't be unlocked.
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Oh balls. So the only way it's to crack it? That's peachy
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Correct, you might want to check this thread out. It is being looked in to but doesn't look all that promising.
Misterxtc said:
Correct, you might want to check this thread out. It is being looked in to but doesn't look all that promising.
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I've read thru it, I mean someone will crack it sooner or later. Some fine folks brainstorming it. Wish it was as simple as on the one plus, you just wait 7 days and you're unlocked.
Is there a difference in model number or something on the box itself?
mac208x said:
Is there a difference in model number or something on the box itself?
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If you want an unlockable bootloader steer clear of verizon plain and simple. No way around it
c_86 said:
If you want an unlockable bootloader steer clear of verizon plain and simple. No way around it
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I know, was trying to make sure the one I was getting on eBay was infact a Google one. Apparently there's a major difference in the label. Same model number etc. However there's a lot more writing on it. Mention of imported by Google Canada which isn't present on the Verizon one.