Android GO for Otterx - Kindle Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, I haven't used my first gen fire in ages, mainly due to low performance and low RAM. I know that in android Oreo, Google has created a variant designed for low end (.5-1gb RAM) devices called Android GO. Is there any chance of this being ported to Otterx? Just wondering if my fire will one day be usable again

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official GEN 10 : Jelly Bean

Version 4.1.0 - December 5th, 2012
Android Jelly Bean 4.1.1 firmware release
Archos Video: major upgrade with simplified video information retrieval and media indexing, new network shares infrastructure
Archos applications: future updates of Archos Video, Music, File Manager, System Monitor applications (embedded in the firmware) will be carried out through Google Play
http://update.archos.com/10/gen10/gen10_4.1.0/firmware_archos_it4x.aos
Great the mapping tool is here
Wow. I wonder if this means we might get Jellybean on our Gen9 devices?
/me crosses fingers.
Sent from my ARCHOS 101G9
Extreme_One said:
Wow. I wonder if this means we might get Jellybean on our Gen9 devices?
/me crosses fingers.
Sent from my ARCHOS 101G9
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one day..perhaps
cajl said:
one day..perhaps
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Personally, I hope it never happens. There is absolutely nothing about 4.1 or 4.2 (other than maybe a slight increase in touch screen operation) that I can see of any real need/use.
Heck, on the Archos G9's there are really only 3 things worth moving up from the Archos 3.2.80 to 4.0.7:
1) Google added and option in the stock Android browser to "request desktop page".
2) Archos made some improvements to their HDMI output.
3) Added Xbox 360 USB controller functionality.
If it were not for those 3 things I would happily stayed back with 3.2.80. It was already a mess before Archos ever got 4.0.7 anywhere near working right (and it still had Wi-Fi connection flaw that were not there in 3.2.80)... and now, they've made a total disastrous mess with the 4.0.2x firmware releases.
Just think about how horrible things would get if they tried to release 4.1 or 4.2? Not to mention, even Google now has to fix things in 4.2 to start with even for their own flagship Nexus products. Why do so many people want the NEXT thing before anyone even gets the current thing to work correctly?
Sorry, don't mean to be rude. It's just that I do not understand the concept of wanting the next new piece of garbage that comes out before they fix the crap they already have out there?
The G9 ist unresponsive / laggy especially with only 512 MB RAM. Jelly Bean is a step forward and I want it ASAP with a lot of butter
Part of me wants to see Jelly Bean running with "butter", but then again...my device is running incredibly smooth to begin with, so why mess that up.
decisions, decisions.....
I want Butter and Google Now
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The G9 ist unresponsive / laggy especially with only 512 MB RAM. Jelly Bean is a step forward and I want it ASAP with a lot of butter
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If Archos release Jelly Bean for the G9 devices (and I have real doubts about that happening), I think you will be very disappointed with the performance on the old outdated hardware of the G9. But first, let's look at how the Google "hype' is very similar to the "hype" Microsoft used over the years...
They both "claim" each new OS is better and faster than the previous one. I know for a fact that is not true with Microsoft Windows. Just try to install Windows XP, Vista, or Windows 7 on an older computer that originally came with Windows 98... it does not run faster at all (actually slower) simply because each newer OS came out on newer, better, and faster hardware in the newer computers.
Android Honeycomb came out when tablets still had slow, single core CPU's with only 256 or (if you were lucky) 512MB of system RAM.
Android Ice Cream Sandwich came out on devices that had faster dual core CPU's with 1Gig of system RAM. Even though it can run on older devices with only 512MB of RAM it runs slower on those devices than Honeycomb did.
Jelly Bean first came out on the Nexus 7 which has a quad core CPU and a 12 core graphics processor. So, even if Archos could make the "butter" stuff work on a G9 (which I doubt they can)... there is simply no way it can ever run as smooth and fast as it does on the Nexus 7 simply because the G9 hardware is no where near the same level as newer devices have now.
And, some companies are already making devices with 2Gig RAM just to be able to stay ahead of any newer Android version requirements.
The Archos 101 XS has both a newer and better CPU and graphics processor. While the even newer Archos GamePad and 80 XS have an even faster (1.6Ghz) CPU and a quad core graphics processor and come with Jelly Bean installed from the factory. And even those are still no match to the performance of the Nexus 7.

Developing ROMs for Kindle Fire 2

Hi everyone!
I will be purchasing a Kindle Fire for my friend on Christmas, and wanted to become further informed regarding custom ROMs on the Kindle Fire.
Specifically, the newer Kindle Fire 2nd Generation, which was available at a lowered price for a day on amazon. (upgraded 1GB RAM, 1.2GHz, running Amazon OS over android 4.0 vs. older gen which ran on 2.3, with only 512MB RAM and 1Ghz processor)
There are currently no custom android ROMs for this new model Kindle Fire, but there are masses of ROMs for the first Kindle Fire.
Would it be possible for myself to modify a Kindle Fire AOSP-based rom for the new Kindle Fire? (unoficcial CM10, Jelly Bean ROM tablet optimized, etc.)
They have very few hardware differences, perhaps I could implement the new additions into the source code and attempt to run?
I would like to know if this idea is feasible for a person with little android developing knowledge, or if it would be only for higher-level devs.
Thanks!
question_air said:
Hi everyone!
I will be purchasing a Kindle Fire for my friend on Christmas, and wanted to become further informed regarding custom ROMs on the Kindle Fire.
Specifically, the newer Kindle Fire 2nd Generation, which was available at a lowered price for a day on amazon. (upgraded 1GB RAM, 1.2GHz, running Amazon OS over android 4.0 vs. older gen which ran on 2.3, with only 512MB RAM and 1Ghz processor)
There are currently no custom android ROMs for this new model Kindle Fire, but there are masses of ROMs for the first Kindle Fire.
Would it be possible for myself to modify a Kindle Fire AOSP-based rom for the new Kindle Fire? (unoficcial CM10, Jelly Bean ROM tablet optimized, etc.)
They have very few hardware differences, perhaps I could implement the new additions into the source code and attempt to run?
I would like to know if this idea is feasible for a person with little android developing knowledge, or if it would be only for higher-level devs.
Thanks!
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Did anyone ever get the bootloaders on the new Kindle Fires unlocked so we could boot an alternate kernel yet? (I know Hashcode was working on it but I haven't been keeping up)
Still locked, making the second generation a white elephant.
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Isn't this the wrong forum to post this? First of all, the title says Kindle Fire 2 (misleading), second, this is a question.
this "question" belongs in the Q&A section not development...
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this "question" belongs in the Q&A section not development...
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Agree and moved to Q&A
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23.976/24 fps Support

I just saw this on another forum:
....You are limited to 24, 50 and 60Hz Output refresh rates with AMlogic and Rockchip devices. 60Hz only on the Amazon Fire TV + Stick and even the new NVIDIA Shield believe it or not. Although Frame rate switching is a built in feature of the new Android 5.0 Lollipop OS
In Kodi 15.0 Isengard – Beta 2 - they have a new option:
Refresh rate switching and 4K Playback on Android - One of the limitations of the Android platforms always was that it wasn’t capable of switching your screen to the same refresh-rate as the current playing video. This could cause a slight video stutter occasionally as video frames had to be duplicated to keep audio in sync. Since Android 5.0 there’s at least a way to set the preferred refresh-rate of the video output that could solve several of these problems.
Can I assume that the AFTV still doesn't support (hardware limitation) 23.976/24fps or has it been or can it be added?
If not mines going straight back - I'll just refuse delivery - as all my files are 23.976fps which my WDTV Live plays fine and has done for the last 5 years.
I can't stand the stutter when playback of source material is different from the encoded frame rate.
Fingers crossed... the AFTV looked perfect apart from that LITTLE problem....
Strange thing is there are hardly any posts about this - so either people don't notice the stutter or are putting up with it. Very strange.
24fps videos will stutter on the FTV, output is either 50hz or 60hz. Many people won't notice or modern TV will somewhat compensate. I think it is terrible. As u mentioned, starting android 5, it is possible in theory. I doubt that amazon will update from KK to LP
shaksbeer said:
24fps videos will stutter on the FTV, output is either 50hz or 60hz. Many people won't notice or modern TV will somewhat compensate. I think it is terrible. As u mentioned, starting android 5, it is possible in theory. I doubt that amazon will update from KK to LP
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The Fire TV does not run KitKat, it runs Jellybean. Hopefully the will update to KitKat soon.
porkenhimer said:
The Fire TV does not run KitKat, it runs Jellybean. Hopefully the will update to KitKat soon.
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correct, sorry for that.
But good news, Android 5 is coming! https://developer.amazon.com/public...10/Announcing-the-Fire-OS-5-Developer-Preview
Hopes up ?!
Her'e's the relevant part of the article:
"June 19, 2015
Mike Hines
Annoucements, Fire Tablets
Starting today, developers have the opportunity to participate in a Developer Preview of Fire OS 5, the next generation Android-based operating system that powers Fire tablets, Amazon Fire TV and Fire TV Stick. And because Fire OS 5 is based on Android Lollipop, we can make this update while preserving even more compatibility with existing Android apps than ever before. This means that even more of your apps should work on Fire devices with no additional engineering effort. "
So does this mean if it gets OS 5 based on Lollipop, that the 24fps frame rate playback will be an option or is it impossible due to the hardware limitations of the chip used in the Amazon Fire TV?
System on Chip (SoC) Platform Qualcomm Snapdragon ARMv7
CPU Qualcomm Quad Core Krait 300, up to 1.7 GHz, 2MB L2 Cache (APQ8064)
GPU Qualcomm Adreno 320, 400 MHz
PS I have the AFTV sitting here next to me all nicely wrapped up (delivered to my neighbour so couldn't refuse delivery) - but if 24fps is going to be supported I will hold onto it! If not it's going back on Monday. :0
shaksbeer said:
correct, sorry for that.
But good news, Android 5 is coming! https://developer.amazon.com/public...10/Announcing-the-Fire-OS-5-Developer-Preview
Hopes up ?!
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Not good news at all. The Fire TV is still running Fire OS 3 and the Fire Tabets have been running Android 4.4 for 8 months, so if thats any indication, it will be a very very long time before the Fire TV is running Android Lollipop. The Fire TV has continued to run Jellybean for 8 months while the Fire tablet has been running KitKat, so expect the same after Lollipop is released for the tablets. Around a year after the Fire Tablet gets Fire OS 5 then the Fire TV should be getting it. Even the Fire Phone has been running KitKat for two months. Its clear that Amazon sees the Fire Tablet and Fire Phone as being more important that the fire TV, which is understandable, because they are mobile and can be used anywhere. I think thats the same reason why Apple said the Apple TV was just a hobby, cause it can be used in your home or a hotel room, while the iphone and ipad could be used everywhere. So like I said, if the past is an indication, which in most cases is, the Fire TV being upgraded to Fire OS 5 is a long way off.

Full android 5.1 to android tv 7.0 nougat on shield tv pro (2015) How-to???

Hello,
I have regular full android 5.1 on my (2015) Shield TV Pro, I know what I am doing but with all the different updates that have came out since I bought my shield tv and rooted it with full android. It is confusing as to how I can get the new android 7 nougat? Please if someone could explain to me how I do it and where I can get the files I need? Also if rooting is possible and if it is possible to have FULL android 7 nougat like I currently have with full android 5.1 Lollipop. To me it seems so much easier and more intuitive to use the FULL version of androids and then almost all apps in the app store work no problem no having to go around and find ways to install programs/games you want that aren't in the app store or won't work since its a different type of android. THANK YOU!
I guess you'll have to wait untill nVIDIA get 'round to actually releasing the Nougat Sources for the 2015/17 Pro version. At the moment only the 2017 (16Gb) Source / Recoveries (IIRC) are currently available.
okay
Ichijoe said:
I guess you'll have to wait untill nVIDIA get 'round to actually releasing the Nougat Sources for the 2015/17 Pro version. At the moment only the 2017 (16Gb) Source / Recoveries (IIRC) are currently available.
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Really? They are released? That is strange I wonder why they released the 16gb version last week but the 500gb version isn't available at all? Weird well I just have a regular 1080p TV and I use headphones...and play any games on my PC (master race)...so I don't even know what possible new features I would need? What are the main new features ? Again Thanks
My only guess is that the Shield Pro 2017, has not been released yet for whatever reason. Much like the suspension that everyone was going to get the Update back on the 16th (of January). The release date of the Pro (January 30th 2017), must have also been wrong. Or I must have been living under a Rock, or the Press just got tired of writing about it. 'Cause I must have missed it otherwise.
As for the Difference those are generally reserved for the Shield Slim (i.e. 2017 16Gb) which is smaller, and has had a number of cuts. (IR Port, MicroUSB, and MicroSD Port). They also replaced the Gamepad, and Remote. Of which only the new Gamepad is to me of interest.
Otherwise the new Software stuff inludes Amazon Prime Video (al-la FireTV), and Steam Big Screen (Mirroring). Which I gather you'd still need a fairly useless Mastergrade Masterrace PC for minimum GTX 650 in order to use. Like I'm gonna let the PC run and play games on my tv, as if I could! When I could and will otherwise be forced to by SWMBO sit at the Computer instead.

Funai Philips 4K TV 55PFL5604/F7 - anyone work on these?

The cheap "4K Android TV" series from Walmart, built by Funai but branded as Philips, is extremely affordable and seems to be unlocked. Has anyone had any luck getting these to run alternative firmware (Lineage?) or even stock Android TV?
Mine is extremely buggy (forgets the date/time, causing HBO and other streaming apps to crash, etc) and extremely slow. Many times apps never fully exit, eating up the limited RAM available. Newer apps refuse to install from the Play Store (even though I'm able to force install them by downloading the APK) which tells me there's some sort of poorly-coded identification going on.
I was able to figure out some hardware specs:
It reports the board/device as "freesia" and the hardware/platform as "maxim" - the quad-core ARM Cortex A53 chip runs at 1400mhz (rev r0p4) and it has 1.5GB RAM and 4GB internal storage. The built-in graphics report as Mali T820 (ARM) (vulkan integrated gpu 1358996kb) running at 1920x1080.
I've updated it as far as the factory updates will go to Android 9 Pie.
I'm new to doing much with Android but I write software for a living so pretty comfortable hacking this thing if people can give me a few pointers!
Rooting a Funai Philips Android TV
I've got a 65-inch 4K Funai/Philips Android TV. Is this TV rootable or flashable? The OS is so laggy on this device it makes it almost unbearable to use. Opening specific screens takes seconds because of all the quirky animations. I'd much rather...
forum.xda-developers.com
The above has users who have unlocked fastboot etc, and have achieved root through the OTA firmware
Thanks. Do you know what it would take to go beyond that? I asked on the Lineage subreddit but they basically have rules against talking about anything but official builds, so it's kind of a catch 22.
andsat said:
Thanks. Do you know what it would take to go beyond that? I asked on the Lineage subreddit but they basically have rules against talking about anything but official builds, so it's kind of a catch 22.
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To be honest? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lineage for TVs seems far fetched,
You’d need to find a person who’d spend their time to build a rom for your TV.
Don’t know much about ROM development
It's already been done for other devices. Here's one for Raspberry Pi https://konstakang.com/devices/rpi4/LineageOS18-ATV/
how does one get/obtain the ota firmware ? I still have an unupdated bootloader unlocked 75 inch model and would like to do some stuff with it. i have been waiting to connect it to the internet because i didn't want to be lock into or out of anything until i was ready.

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