I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I received the notification to update this morning to 4.4, however the update started to apply, it kicked it out with a suspected root error. Before applying the update, I had already uninstalled Xposed and unrooted my phone, so I am not sure what set off the root checker. I was wondering what my options were at this point. I know I can flash back to stock, but I would like to avoid this if at all possible. Are there any alternatives, or will I be forced to flash back to stock?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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I'm having exactly the same issue. I used the one click root method and have unrooted using full unroot in SuperSu.
But it appears full unroot per SuperSu is not enough? I tried root checker in Play Store and it says I am not rooted.
When I run the install it takes a long time to download and gave 0x13e error after the reboot while upgrading.
I also tried the LG PC Suite but it says my phone has the most current version, that is weird...
This OTA seems to be very picky as I was able to update in January 2014 fully rooted....
I wonder if I need to flash the IOT and go through the hassle of reinstalling all apps and config....that's a lot of hassle...
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It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
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It is very strange but if I try update recovery it says my battery does not have enough charge. (but battery is at 100%).
I even bought a new battery. I did disable carrier iq spying service before I unroot.
Do I have to enable carrier iq spy in order to upgrade?
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Your phone needs to be 100% stock in order for OTA updates to work. This means:
no custom recovery (CWM, TWRP, etc)
all bloatware must be present
you can't be rooted
all system services must be like stock (this includes carrier IQ, so yes, it needs to be reenabled).
If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
The easiest thing to do is just flash the 4.4.2 Rom found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This route saves allot of time having to flash back to pure stock, wait for your phone to receive the update again, and your phone taking forever to download said update.
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If you can't get the OTA to update after fixing everything, try flashing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760895
This IS the ATT stock ROM, but mildly debloated. The creator only debloated things that could be installed via the Play Store though (like Google Music, Newstand, Books, etc), so there isn't anything like the remote app or something missing.
I flashed this version because I'm too lazy to try and return my phone to pure stock just to get the OTA and then have to reflash root and a custom recovery. Too much work for me.
EDIT: I'm not too sure what's going on with your recovery... I hope someone else can answer that for you.
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Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
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Thanks a lot. This is my wife's phone so she'd rather not to update if a data wipe is required. She's actually quite happy with 4.1.
Anything extra would only be a "good to have". I think I'll keep it on 4.1 until she switches to another phone.
I did download the slightly customized stock rom so that it could be updated in the future.
In fact, I still have stock recovery and the only reason I rooted was to disable carrier iq because it was doing funny things with the GPS, very annoying.
There is no other way to disable carrier iq without rooting...unfortunately...
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If you flash that ROM over her current stock ROM, it should act just like an OTA update and replace the JB OS with the KK OS. It should also replace JB version Google apps with KK ones too.
If you decide to do this, you will need to do 3 things:
1) Make a backup just in case, but then copy the backup to your PC
2) Backup the internal SD to a PC and then format the internal storage. (see *2 below as to why)
3) After the flash, you will need to install the apk from the following thread and use it to install a Kitkat compatible CWM. If you don't while in recovery at any time, you may get stuck in what's called the Recovery Bootloop. Basically, every time you try to reboot the phone into the system (whether from a powered off state or from recovery), you will always go back to recovery.
The only bad thing about this recovery is that it can't read external SD cards, so anything you want to flash/backup will need to be stored on internal storage.
*2) Kitkat uses a different directory system for internal storage. If you were to not wipe the internal SD and managed to get the OTA working, it would wipe the drive for you automatically (which means all your data would be gone!).
However, with this flashable stock ROM, what will happen instead, is that all your data will remain, but will be hidden from view/access. If you have root, you can get it and move it, but it's a pain. Otherwise, your files are hidden from you, yet the system reads X amount of your internal storage as being occupied by "Miscellaneous" files, yet shows that nothing is there.
So just backup the files, then format the internal storage (which will leave her apps alone) before updating. Then flash that ROM and then copy the files back over.
All this is up to you and your wife as to whether or not you deem it to be worth the effort.
I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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I just ordered this beautiful tablet. I've never owned a tablet before. I've actually always wanted a laptop, but things are changing. I have an Amazon Kindle Fire HD from many years ago. It's actually worked pretty well for me for ebook reading, limited web browsing and email using. But, the last few months it's really started acting funny and not working right. So I've decided it's time to upgrade. Did a week's worth of research and decided this is my best option. I haven't received it yet, but I'm really excited to dig in and do a lot more than I can with my Kindle.
So that brings me here. I don't remember where, but through my research on which tablet to buy, this website was mentioned as a major resource. To be completely honest, I'm 100% lost. There are things I want to do but I don't even know where to start. I love tinkering and figuring things out, but I need a little push in the right direction.
One of the biggest things I want to be able to do is make a complete low level backup of the entire system to store on my home server should anything happen and I need to restore it.
The other big thing I want to do is remove all the excess junk that comes pre-installed that I'll never use. With such a small area of space available, having half or so used up in unnecessary stuff is just pointless.
I'm sure there are other things I can do and may want to do in the future, but for now, these are the major keys. So... any help? Did I make the right choice? What other features/functions should I be looking at or considering?
Thanks guys! Looking forward to getting a lot of great use out of my new tablet and this site.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
!!!Make a backup prior to this step!!!
Will update post when I am home with more suggestion's.
Thanks, that's somewhat helpful. At least it give me the names of programs. I have no idea what I'm doing though. Can you give me a link to a step-by-step guide, or at least explain what the different things are and what they do? Sorry for being such a noob with this.
Instructions
MAKE SURE TO DOWNLOAD THE FILES FOR YOUR SPECIFIC DEVICE (T700, T705, T800, T805, etc.)
You will need Odin (This is the software that will allow you to install the root and other files [FLASHING])
CF-AutoRoot (Will provide Root access for your device): You will be flashing this with Odin
Optional: Install custom recovery TWRP. This is also done with Odin. This will allow you to make backups and flash .zip files, including custom roms, apps, etc.
Just google for guides on rooting Samsung Galaxy Tab S. They will show you step by step on how to do the Odin flashing, PDA, settings, autoreset or not, etc.
I recommend backing up your device at this point. Reboot into recovery (instructions will be in the rooting guides), go to backup and backup everything for now. In the future when you feel comfortable enough that you can/will select to only backup what you deem necessary.
Your device is now rooted, the first boot after installing CFAutoRoot will take awhile +/-3 - 5 minutes.
Now download Titanium Backup, and you can google or search XDA for a list of "safe" things to uninstall. Just go into TitaniumBackup and look for the app you want to Freeze (This will prevent the app from running but it will NOT delete it, thus it will still take up space) or Remove.
Busybox: Will be required by certain apps.
Optional:
Link2SD App, this allows you to install/move/link your apps to the SD Card, it essentially frees up your internal memory of the device and tricks the device into installing apps and their data files onto your second partition of your External SD Card (Google or Search XDA for guides on Link2SD). This will allow you to install a lot more apps than you normally would be able to. (Example: Vice City, San Andreas, Plants vs Zombies, etc. I mention these because of their large data size). Not all apps will work when linked, just trial and error. I can't seem to get Word, Excel, Powerpoint linked to my SD Card without at least one of the failing, same with Facebook. You will have to test each app and see what files you can link/bind and which you can't.
Adblock Plus: Self explanatory
Xposed: A bunch of customization options for your device
ES File Explorer Pro: The best file management/directory app IMO
Greenify: Battery saver
Aptoide: Secondary App Store
Hancom Apps: I feel these work better on occasion then the Microsoft Office apps (Example large excel files with multiple formulas and filters)
NovaLauncher: Custom launcher, a lot more customizations then TouchWiz will provide you. (Your home screen)
Tasker: Limitless possibilities with this app (Search google/XDA for info)
TWRP Manager: TWRP Recovery app.
VLC: Video player
4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
If you are happy with your device up to this point, I would create another backup after you are done with the initial set up and have installed the apps of your choosing. Save a copy on the device, PC, NAS, etc. just in case you lose one of your copies. Some TWRP versions do not allow you to backup directly to the external SD Card, you may have to backup into the Internal and then transfer the information over to the external SD Card.
Good Luck.
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Root with chain fire root, flash via Odin.
This will allow you to have root access allowing you to remove unwanted app amongst other things
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Is this the link I should be using? I'll know for sure what it's model number is once I receive the tablet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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Flash via Odin: TWRP Recovery for Chagallwifi (assuming it's a Samsung T800)
This will allow you to create a back up.
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Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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I believe the order of this can be inverted. IE. Flash recovery with Odin and then have TWRP flash the CFAutoroot zip and the SuperSU (the app that will "manage" your root)
Install Titanium Back up and freeze/uninstall unwanted apps. There are lists of removable apps on the forums. I prefer to freeze but it's up to you.
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This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
Thanks again for any help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/root-cf-autoroot-twrp-t800-t3079488
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This link works, although there are newer versions of TWRP, you can install these after however, no big deal.
Doesn't installing Chain Fire Root via the previous link also contain the TWRP Recovery? Or is this a special version I need to install after running the first root through Odin? What is Chagallwifi?
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The previous link contains TWRP, read above. The normal CF Autoroot comes with CWM Recovery I believe (A custom recovery similar to TWRP). You can use the link you posted. Chagallwifi is the "nickname" of the Galaxy Tab S 10.5 WiFi, it is one way to search for a device, the other being the model number T800, for instance or the long commercial name.
This is just an app I get from the Google Play store right? Or is there a special version I need to get, or install manually? I think I saw in a YouTube video that I need to install something called GApps if I want install something from there after rooting, is this correct? Also, if Titanium Backup IS an app, how can I get a backup of the entire system when I'm booted into the OS? I think I read somewhere, or saw screenshots that show this basically creates backups of your installed programs, so you can easily restore them without having to re-download them. Maybe I'm wrong, as I said I'm completely new this and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
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You get the app from the playstore, correct. I am not sure about GApps, I want to say it isn't necessary unless you will be installing a custom rom (you can double check this on the rooting guides, if it asks for GApps, then flash the GApps)
The system back up is done via TWRP or CWM, boot into recovery and choose backup.
Titanium Backup allows you to back up the app and its data file. So you don't lose the progress of your games. Also backs up email, WiFi passwords, etc.
My biggest concern is that I'll screw something up and find myself with a tablet I can't use, without having had it no more than a couple days, and having spent nearly $600 for it and the accessories. I know that rooting/etc voids the warranty, but I also have seen where people are able to put the whole system back to factory default for repairs, etc. That sounds like something I really need to learn how to do and be confident I can do should something happen.
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Most of the errors cause soft bricks, you can recover from these. I would recommend you backup after rooting, in case you mess something up toying with Titanium, Link2SD, SuperSU, etc. You can always use SamMobile and find a Stock Rom to flash back onto the device, again via Odin. Not sure if the KnoxTrip flag will still show up, you can trying Googling how to root without tripping Knox, I know there are methods, however I have never used them. I have soft bricked my device before, I deleted everything with TWRP, I wanted to factory reset, and I selected erase System..... scary times.
Stock Rom: SamFirm (Outdated) or Updato
Thanks for all your help and advice. I just got my tablet today. Still kinda playing around with it. I probably won't do anything for a couple of days. At least till my next day off from work (Thursday) so I can concentrate on what I'm doing. I was really scared when I first turned it on, everything was in Korean. I had to find a YouTube video showing how to go through the initial setup to change the language. All good now. Once I got it fully running, it downloaded a 350mb update and rebooted. I'm now running Lolipop 5.0.2. Is that going to cause any issues? Also, I can now confirm that it is model SM-T800.
Thanks again!
ChewVodka, once your past the learning curve rooting etc. can be done in your sleep. After some research, I rooted a 10.1 tab 4 a while back with no problem. Definitely better o have more control over the device, I think. Just got a new 10.5 also, and am looking around for the best way to administer the Android system - the Galaxy Tab S for Dummies book seems to me to be actually a good place to start. I'll check back here with any choice info I find on the 10.5.
Also, I have this case for my 10.1, and this is the best under $20 case you can get for the 10.5 - so cheap I bought two of them! Type in search: Xtra-Funky Exclusive Samsung Galaxy Tab S, 10.5 -- the black and navy blue are cool -- the others kinda garish.
Easy Way, allow installation of 3rd party apps in settings download this for android https://kingroot.net/ run it select install anyway when you get the pop up, and root device , open Playstore download flashify for root users, run it allow it access , click recovery image then download twrp choose the 3.0.2-0 release and install to your tab and reboot into recovery, at this point you can use it to make a backup of your current rom or install a custom rom (following the directions on the page for the rom that you choose), this is easier method if you aren't familiar with odin and don't have the drivers and all set up on pc. You can also change kingroot over to super user in a few different ways can download and use supersume from play store and run it or, just flash the newest superuser in twrp and remove whats leftover from kingroot manually after reboot. If you intend on doing a custom rom i suggest choosing first and having all files available before you start. However if you intend on using odin You might want to install this first http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790 so you have full communication with the device in case anything does go wrong there will be other options. This is of course if you are not already setup with this already. Also I would like to note there are a few roms here based on the stock firmware if you like it just look through the forum see what you like, and read everything.
What are the benefits to a custom ROM? I assume you're talking about things like Cyanogenmod. There are some people in another forum I visit that like it, but I don't know what it is or why I would want it. Does it allow installing pirated software or something? It's probably not allowed to be discussed here, and I'm not saying I would purposely do something like that (not that I wouldn't if possible lol). It all comes down to the fact that I'm completely new to the tablet world, other than the fact that it's a bigger and better Kindle Fire that I can get more usage out of by not being limited to Amazon's ROM and store for apps. The biggest things I'm looking to do is get rid of bloatware that came preinstalled (of which a lot was added with the update) and the ability to make backups of the entire system should something screw up.
It sounds like "rooting" is essentially giving you the administrative control access to the system (like in Windows) instead of being limited to a generic "user". That allows you to install more system accessible programs, where a generic user would get a UAC prompt and then be told and Administrator needs to preform that action. As for "recovery", it sounds like that is sort of like the CMOS/BIOS of a PC. It's the first "program" that runs when you boot up (even requiring a specific keypress to enter). This allows you to access the system before the system boots, to get you backup/restore functions, and the ability to install new OS's. It also sounds like the built in version from Samsung is what is getting changed (like updating the BIOS of the PC) to allow more functionality (like backups, etc). The only thing you don't have access to is stuff like disk drives, but things like RAM and CPU can be adjusted once you have ROOT.
The more I learn about it, the more I'm eager to do it. I really don't like feeling confined to a predetermined set of available things to do, and I really don't like having somebody decide to install software I'll never use on my system that just takes up space. I especially hate that said programs can't even be uninstalled. Looks like this is what I'm gonna have to do!
Decided not to wait and rooted it tonight. I have the freedom now to play, though I'm not sure where to start. Currently I have the CF-Autoroot thing done, and it installed SuperSU. Then I did the TWRP recovery, and made a backup of all the partitions. I was kinda hoping I could backup remotely (like on the computer) rather than stored on the same device. I have a microSD card ordered and on the way, so my next task will be to back up to that. There is a tool I use on my Kindle Fire called ES File Explorer. I'll see if I can get that on this. Then I can find the backup and transfer it over the wifi.
I'll check out your other recommended apps as I have time. Thanks again!
Now I'm having a bunch of trouble. I was able to get the Chainfire root to go through, and verified it with a Root Checker. I then installed the TWRP recovery so I could make a backup. I even have a few backups. Then I went and installed an app called TWRP Manager, that was supposed to enable me the option of making backups LIVE (without having to boot into TWRP). It wasn't working, so I went to do a "Classic Backup" which reboots into TWRP and starts the backup then reboots normally. Well, TWRP never booted. I just had a black screen. Nothing seemed to work. I couldn't power on with the power button, and I couldn't manually boot into TWRP. The only option that did anything was ODIN (Download) Mode. I'm really freaking out at this point. I found a way to connect to XDA's IRC Channel and talked with some really nice guys and was told to try re-flashing the stock. I did that, and it worked. But now I'm stuck again. Basically starting from scratch with a stock system, I went through to install the Chainfire root again. It seemed to work ok, and SuperSU showed up. Ran the Root Verifier and it confirmed it was successful. I then went to flash TWRP. ODIN says it passed, but I still can't boot into it. Here's the kicker.. even if it appears that it's not working, if I do the keypresses on my tablet correctly and wait like 2-3 minutes then try again, TWRP will actually be up but the screen locked. WTF??
So did I something wrong? I'm really lost. Like I told the guys in the chatroom, I'm going on blind faith here, not really knowing what I'm doing. I figured once I have stock installed, I'm basically back to square one and can go through the whole process again. Doesn't seem to be working. I have to go to work now but hopefully somebody has something of a suggestion I can try by the time I get home.
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4way_multiwindow: This will allow you to have 4 apps open at a time and 3 apps "minimized", this also allows floating windows (Moveable apps running in "windowed mode" essentially.) There is an aesthetic bug when minimized, I have not found a fixed version of this yet, maybe others can provide link. Just load up TWRP manager and choose install, and select the .zip file and it will reboot into recovery and install the file for you. Or you can boot your device into recovery and install it the same way. I am attaching the .zip file.
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Before I try this myself and bootloop, would I be safe flashing the 4way multiwindow on the new stock 6.0.1 ROM? (SM-T805)
Hi all, apologies for an other thread.
There are so many threads on XDA/ reddit that are sort of related to this, but I can't seem to get the help I need or keep up with them all, so once again apologies, but I have really tried to find the answers myself before asking.
Basically, I did a factory reset/ wipe on my phone, did a clean install of 6.0.1 from the factory images. Side loaded 7 from the OTA update and nougat is great!
I installed the latest TWRP (after a few go's, managed to get it to stick), then installed the latest, N supported SU.
SU is installed and I can run as rooted. However, this is the part I don't understand (very new to all this). While I apparently have root, I can't get an app to move applications over to the system directory like I used to be able to do, doing the same setup.
So, is this something to do with system/ systemless root, or encryption or N, or have I stuffed something?
From all the reading I come up with encryption, then others said it doesn't matter if encrypted... So maybe it's just N and root doesn't support moving to the system...
Anyway, I'm totally lost now. Bottom line is, I can use apps that require root, but no apps that move applications to system can access system, even after granting root access to them.
Cheers.
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Hi all, apologies for an other thread.
There are so many threads on XDA/ reddit that are sort of related to this, but I can't seem to get the help I need or keep up with them all, so once again apologies, but I have really tried to find the answers myself before asking.
Basically, I did a factory reset/ wipe on my phone, did a clean install of 6.0.1 from the factory images. Side loaded 7 from the OTA update and nougat is great!
I installed the latest TWRP (after a few go's, managed to get it to stick), then installed the latest, N supported SU.
SU is installed and I can run as rooted. However, this is the part I don't understand (very new to all this). While I apparently have root, I can't get an app to move applications over to the system directory like I used to be able to do, doing the same setup.
So, is this something to do with system/ systemless root, or encryption or N, or have I stuffed something?
From all the reading I come up with encryption, then others said it doesn't matter if encrypted... So maybe it's just N and root doesn't support moving to the system...
Anyway, I'm totally lost now. Bottom line is, I can use apps that require root, but no apps that move applications to system can access system, even after granting root access to them.
Cheers.
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Something is messed up. TWRP shouldn't take a few tries to stick. The factory images are out now. Flash them and start over.
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