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Hello,
I bought an european version of the Oneplus 3 in june, it works perfectly fine in France. But in next January, i go to Canada for work and live, and my european version seems doesn' work on network frequency used in Quebec(CAD), so my question is : is it possible to turn my OnePlus 3 in a North America Model (with mod) ? or i need to sell mine et re-buy a brand new phone ?
Thanks in advance
or just add some Band for LTE ?
I have done some research on this topic (used Google ). There are snapdragon based phones for which people could load a different software for the modem which used the bands they needed.
Hi, I'm from South America, so, my only option to get this device is to buy one from china sellers. But I'm confused because every page like willmydevicework (I don't trust this so much), gsmarena and devicespecifications.com show different information on LTE Band Support.
For example, in willmydevicework, none of the variants (p2a42 and p2c72) supports B4 AWS LTE (1700/2100) (The band that i need in my carrier)
On the other side, in gsmarena and devicespecifications, all the variants, no matter if is p2a42 or p2c72 and 32 o 64gb storage, supports that band.
From sellers, the Aliexpress store "Eternal Team" show full band support on p2c72 model: FDD Band 1/3/4/5/7/8/20/28
Other seller, Fantacy, says that his p2c72 supports only LTE FDD B1/B3/B7.
And finally, tinydeal and Aliexpress "Lenovo authorized store", shows that his 64gb model supports FDD-LTE B1, B3, B4, B7, B8.
So, which should I trust? I'm interested only if the phone supports B4, asking for advice if someone of south america or other america's countries have the device and working on his 4G LTE carrier with B4 AWS.
Thanks in advance.
Ger$$on said:
Hi, I'm from South America, so, my only option to get this device is to buy one from china sellers. But I'm confused because every page like willmydevicework (I don't trust this so much), gsmarena and devicespecifications.com show different information on LTE Band Support.
For example, in willmydevicework, none of the variants (p2a42 and p2c72) supports B4 AWS LTE (1700/2100) (The band that i need in my carrier)
On the other side, in gsmarena and devicespecifications, all the variants, no matter if is p2a42 or p2c72 and 32 o 64gb storage, supports that band.
From sellers, the Aliexpress store "Eternal Team" show full band support on p2c72 model: FDD Band 1/3/4/5/7/8/20/28
Other seller, Fantacy, says that his p2c72 supports only LTE FDD B1/B3/B7.
And finally, tinydeal and Aliexpress "Lenovo authorized store", shows that his 64gb model supports FDD-LTE B1, B3, B4, B7, B8.
So, which should I trust? I'm interested only if the phone supports B4, asking for advice if someone of south america or other america's countries have the device and working on his 4G LTE carrier with B4 AWS.
Thanks in advance.
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Am having the same issues like you, I want to buy from Nigeria ?? but a feed up with the inconclusive description on Aliexpress. Am looking to get the model that has LTE band 28 but non of the descriptions contain band 28 now.
Please can anyone who is already using this phone confirm the LTE bands?
Are there different hardwares/modems for p2?
Please I need urgent reply
Bolumstar said:
Am having the same issues like you, I want to buy from Nigeria but a feed up with the inconclusive description on Aliexpress. Am looking to get the model that has LTE band 28 but non of the descriptions contain band 28 now.
Please can anyone who is already using this phone confirm the LTE bands?
Are there different hardwares/modems for p2?
Please I need urgent reply
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From my experience. You can't trust any of the chinese stores with listing proper frequency's.
They even list the wrong frequency's to catch you into buying the device in question.
I highly recommend following site to check for frequency support:
Look at supported cellular networks!
P2a42 = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=11116&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2a42_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 32GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10515&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 64GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10930&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_64gb
celoxocis said:
From my experience. You can't trust any of the chinese stores with listing proper frequency's.
They even list the wrong frequency's to catch you into buying the device in question.
I highly recommend following site to check for frequency support:
Look at supported cellular networks!
P2a42 = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=11116&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2a42_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 32GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10515&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_32gb
P2c72 64GB = http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10930&c=lenovo_vibe_p2_p2c72_dual_sim_td-lte_64gb
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Thanks for clarifying me mate, Aliexpress guys are selling the P2c72 with 4G/64G but here is the issue as I also attached, they are flashing the ROM for P2a42 in it because of play store, multi language and to sell globally but the problem is,
If you they flash P2c42 ROM on P2c72, will all the LTE band work?
Is there any hardware difference between P2c72 and P2a42?
Or is it just a modem difference, same hardware?
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Thanks for clarifying me mate, Aliexpress guys are selling the P2c72 with 4G/64G but here is the issue as I also attached, they are flashing the ROM for P2a42 in it because of play store, multi language and to sell globally but the problem is,
If you they flash P2c42 ROM on P2c72, will all the LTE band work?
Is there any hardware difference between P2c72 and P2a42?
Or is it just a modem difference, same hardware?
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No the LTE bands will stay the same. Its hardware limited.
What they do is. Use the available information here from XDA how to flash the P2a42 Firmware on the P2c72.
Usually they just flash the system.img and the boot stack. You will have P2a42 Userinterface in multilingual just like an P2a42 but will still have the same LTE bands like the P2c72.
The reason behind it.
The P2c72 is sold in their homecountry (usually china) for way cheaper than the P2a42 in the western market
and they sell the modified P2c72 for a higher prices on the international market, which is still cheaper tham the P2a42 price.
By tricking the customer into listing all LTE frequency and confusing them to have "P2a42" feature. They fall for the trap.
Always trust the listing at pdadb.net
Thanks mate, the seller told me no after I put forth the question to him without any explanation but I guess this answers it.
Really need a good mid range with LTE Band 28 that ships to Nigeria.
My target was Redmi note 3 special edition but All Aliexpress stores shipping to Nigeria is out of stock. Sadly enough, they still ship to Spain.
Bolumstar said:
Thanks mate, the seller told me no after I put forth the question to him without any explanation but I guess this answers it.
Really need a good mid range with LTE Band 28 that ships to Nigeria.
My target was Redmi note 3 special edition but All Aliexpress stores shipping to Nigeria is out of stock. Sadly enough, they still ship to Spain.
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You can use pdadb to filter for phones by bands and other features. I use that to start my research. Stick with Snapdragon based devices if you want community freedom.
Avoid Oppo phones at all costs. They don't release kernel sources and removed fastboot and any way of unlocking the bootloader.
Preferably stick with a brand that:
1. Snapdragon based phones
2. Releases kernel Sources
3. Allows for Bootloader unlocking
4. Has a community on XDA
Such as Xiaomi, Motorola, Lenovo, etc just to name a few. In not any particular order.
celoxocis said:
No the LTE bands will stay the same. Its hardware limited.
What they do is. Use the available information here from XDA how to flash the P2a42 Firmware on the P2c72.
Usually they just flash the system.img and the boot stack. You will have P2a42 Userinterface in multilingual just like an P2a42 but will still have the same LTE bands like the P2c72.
The reason behind it.
The P2c72 is sold in their homecountry (usually china) for way cheaper than the P2a42 in the western market
and they sell the modified P2c72 for a higher prices on the international market, which is still cheaper tham the P2a42 price.
By tricking the customer into listing all LTE frequency and confusing them to have "P2a42" feature. They fall for the trap.
Always trust the listing at pdadb.net
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One thing for sure that LTE does work fine on my P2c72 towards the american LTE bands.
Wmateria said:
One thing for sure that LTE does work fine on my P2c72 towards the american LTE bands.
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So, you have LTE band 4 with your carrier and your using it on your Chinese p2c72?
Hi guys,the Lenovo p2 only support b3+b7 on LTE CA and in my country (Italy) and other european countries it's impossible to use 4g+ because it's only used b3+b20. Is it possible to do something with QPST to unlock band? I think yes because the Moto G5 Plus is the same phone like P2 and it support b3+b20. Thanks for answer me.
Nice question: same issue here in Italy with Vodafone!
yes i need this information too. because i really want this phone but for the model i want p2a42 is A LOT more expensive than the p2c72 chinese model. is it possible to some how unlock the lte bands from the chinese model??? i seen a post of here with people unlocking bands on their quallcom phones, mostly xperia z3 i think.
Xiaomi have released Redmi Note 5 in Taiwan with more LTE band support than global variant.
TW Specs from : http://www.mi.com/tw/redmi-note-5/specs/
Taiwan model:
Code:
4G:FDD-LTE B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B28
TDD-LTE B38/B40
Global model:
Code:
4G: FDD-LTE B1/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20
TDD-LTE B38/B40
Many markets worldwide apart from Taiwan make use of the extra B28 (700Mhz) - Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Panama, Japan, France. There are probably more I have left out. Its basically our equivalent of B20 which gives us better rural coverage and better building penetration.
I have looked everywhere including Aliexpress and they aren't selling this model. Can anyone find it anywhere other than Xiaomi Taiwan site?
I have read:
This Band 28(700Mhz) is scheduled to begin in 2020 for mobile (5G broadband services)
That might be true in your country, its been in other places for years. Since 2014 in Australia. I think its delayed in Europe due to terrestrial TV using that frequency, ours was switched off years ago.
ok,thanks for the info
It is also used in Nigeria by a network known as Glo. LTE band 28(700) travels very far and has better in-building penetration than most LTE bands.
By the way, I've also checked Aliexpress for the variant of redmi note 5 that support band 28, and it's not available yet. I don't think I can wait for it any longer. I'll have to settle for the Global variant.
where did you get the band list for the Global version from? pdadb so far has always been accurate on the supported bands and it lists Band 28 as included for the Global version:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...e_64gb_meg7s___xiaomi_whyred&d=detailed_specs
@celoxocis Seems to differ from this one https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-note-5 Doesn't list B28
@lukesan
kimovil has been wrong in the past.
I used to import US version phones and always used pdadb for proper (required) bands. Where all other sites would list missing bands pdadb would list all complete bands. So I see pdadb as trustworthy and professional sites who check the phones specifications for accuracy.
@celoxocis https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9120#hong-kong,*,* another one that doesn't show B28 BUT the Taiwan version shows B28
This is all getting confusing. On all Aliexpress sellers I don't see B28, only the very much used B20 in Europe. Looking for the Taiwan version on Aliexpress seems to not show anything.
@lukesan
gsmarena never lists proper bands. it misses half the bands of my axon 7 us version (pdadb lists the proper bands). never go to gsmarena to check for bands. aliexpress only sells Chinese versions with global ROM anyway. don't go there or they will trick you to buy one of those.
I contacted aliexpress sellers that are selling global model, they said no B28. So far only place I have found is a eBay seller from Taiwan but its overpriced so not buying yet: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Xiaomi-Red...hash=item1cac64e701:m:mUYSnnhRa49uuBF-7QnmBSw
Did anyone find a place? I am still looking around for this.
Not sure if it will be any help for you, but I just bought this one off of Amazon.ca - https://www.amazon.ca/Xiaomi-Unlocked-Global-Version-4-64GB/dp/B07D82MTZL/ - and it has band 28.
I bought a couple of this guy from Taiwan ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/123151713017 so I can confirm that the seller is good. Good communication answered all my questions, and he packaged everything securely inside a DHL box. The boxes inside were still shrink wrapped as I expect they would come from Xiaomi.
It may be a bit overpriced though as said here for some reason nobody else is putting the Taiwanese version up.
Aqq123 said:
FYI the list price for that version in Taiwan is TWD 8,000, or about AUD 355, so the mark-up is about 23%.
(438/355-1)*100 ~= 23.3803
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This Amazon.ca listing has the RN5 with Band 28. Both resellers (Maple Mountain Imports and JP Mobiles CA) sell the same version of the phone, and fulfilment is by Amazon. I am not sure how useful this is to anyone not in Canada, but I figured I'd mention it here for anyone who is still looking for some place besides eBay. I received mine today (2 day shipping) and the phone is new in shrinkwrap, etc.
I also purchased one from the Ebay seller as mentioned by tya99. I will also add that it was packed as described and arrived in my hand in Australia in only two days from ordering. Very happy with it.
In France, some operator already use B28, since more than 1 year ago
It is for this same reason (LTE band 28) that I wanted to buy redmi note 5 special edition. Now there is a redmi note 5 with LTE band 28 that nobody knows where to buy it from. It's a pity Xiaomi doesn't care to make it popular.
In Nigeria (the most populus country in Africa) that LTE band 28 is in hot demand used by GSM network called globacom.
I want to get that but might have to settle for global or China redmi note 5 as I have already purchased MiFi modem with LTE band 28.
I'M still in love with my old Samsung note 4 screen and camera, I don't know if redmi note 5 screen will be close to it but at some point I have to upgrade.
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This Taiwanese version has also been released in Mexico, and possibly in Chile and Bolivia. I bought mine in Mercadolivre (auction-site-turned-marketplace just like eBay), from someone who imported it from Mexico to Brazil. If you have some sort of communication channel to a seller, you can ask them directly for the model number printed on the back side of the box: the regular "Global" model is model M1803E7SG, while the Taiwanese/Mexican model with B28 support is M1803E7SH.
Hi,
As for 4g phones, 5G One can be used in Europe, and in details in Italy. For 4g Chinese phone missed band 20, what is for 5g?
Thanks
I am checking that for germany right now, i see some missing. More than i have expected.
Germany will use the old UMTS frequencies in Germany for 4G / 5G.
So i am missing for 4G b8, b20, b28, b32 and for 5G n1, n28.
10min search, may be missing some.
Italy
Italy using for 4G/5G (wikipedia)
b1,b3,b7,b8,b20,b32, n78, n258
K30 Provides (chinese Website translation)
n41, n78
b1,b3,b5,b7,b8,b34,b38,b39,b40,b41
Hello , how we can unlock the band 20 ?
Is that even possible anymore?
spychodelics said:
Is that even possible anymore?
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I hope yes, me i try to find a solution. You have european rom version on your K30 5G ?
@xedthecreative We can check all supported bands and combos from modem log. Xiaomi have nice method via CIT. I have made instruction https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g-supported-ca-combinations-from-your-android-phone/ (scroll down to Xiaomi -> New method section). Can you test if this work with your device?
I try build database of supported 4G & 5G Bands and Combos: https://cacombos.com/ - if you like help me to build better database, you can send logs to [email protected]
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Hi,
As for 4g phones, 5G One can be used in Europe, and in details in Italy. For 4g Chinese phone missed band 20, what is for 5g?
Thanks
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Ciao, hai poi risolto? ANch'io l'ho comprato di recente.
It's fake that you can unlock the LTE missing bands: it's a hardware limitation.
I am using the K30 5G in Spain and it works pretty good, I almost see no difference with mobile data with my previous phone, the LG G4, and besides I am prepared to receive 5G signals in my city
If you guys finally decide to buy this phone, buy the K30 5G variants, as it also has some more 4G bands than the normal K30 4G variant.
In Spain we use B1, B3, B7, B8 and B20 4G bands, and picasso only misses the B20 band.