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[Q] HOX music and enhancements

Hi guys! I'm kind of a music freak. Yeah I admit...I want to have a good listening experience. There are some problems though. I would like one or more of you experts to guide me. We have "Awesome Beats" and "Noozxoide". We have some mods made originally for Sony, and so on. Today I use HTC One X endeavoru.
I wonder: what would be the easiest way to test them, and combinations of them? I've noticed that some of them aren't compatible together and sometimes it sounds just terrible. Other times the phone gets nuts and nothing works. For example: yesterday I couldn't change volume in any of my music players; if I did, it shut right down. What custom rom I use doesn't matter me very much as long as I get an overall good experience. So, my questions, and hopefully, the beginning of a usefull thread starts like this, and, thank you in advance, you are great!:fingers-crossed::
1. Optimal music player for the audiophile, and optimal for the noob who don't want to config too much.
2. Mods, combos, APK or flashable? Roms that allready have and give ultimate sound experience.
3. How to temperally disable players, mods or whatever, so that one don't interfere with the ones you want to use.

My HOX is running the latest 4.2.2 ICJ build with XMkernel. Haven't flashed any sound mods.
1)Best player for me is definitely PowerAmp. Nice clean and organised interface. However if you like tweaking then have a look at Neutron Player.
2) Not really, I just downloaded Noozxoide and run my equalising through that
3) Not really necessary except I had to disable the built in app "MusicFX" for the Noozxoide app to work.
Hope this helps!

killa12222 said:
My HOX is running the latest 4.2.2 ICJ build with XMkernel. Haven't flashed any sound mods.
1)Best player for me is definitely PowerAmp. Nice clean and organised interface. However if you like tweaking then have a look at Neutron Player.
2) Not really, I just downloaded Noozxoide and run my equalising through that
3) Not really necessary except I had to disable the built in app "MusicFX" for the Noozxoide app to work.
Hope this helps!
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Yes, I have the same configuration myself right now, but original kernel. Is XMkernel to prefer? Well the sound is really good and I found out that I should go to settings - apps and clear and stop players that I don't use for the moment. Can you get to configure Nooxxoide thru Poweramp or do you have to do it the long way? I have some trouble too make Noozxoide do job, I mean some features work whole for example the manual settings of the EQ

s.izeman said:
Yes, I have the same configuration myself right now, but original kernel. Is XMkernel to prefer? Well the sound is really good and I found out that I should go to settings - apps and clear and stop players that I don't use for the moment. Can you get to configure Nooxxoide thru Poweramp or do you have to do it the long way? I have some trouble too make Noozxoide do job, I mean some features work whole for example the manual settings of the EQ
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For sound quality, not really necessary. Well to get Poweramp to work with Noozoxide you have to go into Poweramp Settings - Audio - Advanced Tweaks - and uncheck "Direct Volume Control". Then disable Poweramp's EQ, tone and limit.

Beats Audio on CM
Lately I've become a fan of the beats audio that came on my HOX but i've also taken a liking to CM10 is there anyway to put beats audio and the sense music player onto CM 10?

killa12222 said:
For sound quality, not really necessary. Well to get Poweramp to work with Noozoxide you have to go into Poweramp Settings - Audio - Advanced Tweaks - and uncheck "Direct Volume Control". Then disable Poweramp's EQ, tone and limit.
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Well, I tried that and get the EQ I want, but I can't, like in ordinary player, customize it. I havet to leave poweramp and go to the EQ. And when, like my ”awesome beats” the EQ is flashed in the system you can't reach it from ”outside". Oh yeah. I have AC!D music mod to. Also built in ICJ.

alistairmccllm said:
Lately I've become a fan of the beats audio that came on my HOX but i've also taken a liking to CM10 is there anyway to put beats audio and the sense music player onto CM 10?
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Beats audio yes, sense player no.
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I've tried both Awesome Beats and Noozxoide on AOSP ROMs and quite frankly I didn't like any of them. I'm a huge audiophile myself (and a music producer) so all that did the job for me was tuning DSP equalizer myself.
Another recent thing I've tried and I quite liked the results (although, the sound is not as amped as having Beats enabled, but it got both ups and downs.. downs obviously being somewhat lower loudness, the ups being way cleaner and natural sound, and no distortions by the overamplification of having Beats enabled) is that I've simply flashed Walkman app from "SONY Xperia Z Walkman Clear Audio+, Movies Album & BE 2" which comes with mods, but I didn't flash any of the mods, just Walkman alone, and remove apk's that caused me force closes and errors.
Once Walkman app is flashed, DSP starts misbehaving, but kind of in a good way - the changes applied in Equalizer aren't as aggressive anymore and allows for much finer tuning, achieving the great sound described above, while still being able to bleed your ears with loudness.

BlueSingA said:
I've tried both Awesome Beats and Noozxoide on AOSP ROMs and quite frankly I didn't like any of them. I'm a huge audiophile myself (and a music producer) so all that did the job for me was tuning DSP equalizer myself.
Another recent thing I've tried and I quite liked the results (although, the sound is not as amped as having Beats enabled, but it got both ups and downs.. downs obviously being somewhat lower loudness, the ups being way cleaner and natural sound, and no distortions by the overamplification of having Beats enabled) is that I've simply flashed Walkman app from "SONY Xperia Z Walkman Clear Audio+, Movies Album & BE 2" which comes with mods, but I didn't flash any of the mods, just Walkman alone, and remove apk's that caused me force closes and errors.
Once Walkman app is flashed, DSP starts misbehaving, but kind of in a good way - the changes applied in Equalizer aren't as aggressive anymore and allows for much finer tuning, achieving the great sound described above, while still being able to bleed your ears with loudness.
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Well, that sounds interesting! Guess I'll find the links by googeling. What rom are you on, and what player do you use? What quality do you havet on the music. I use to have flac or in worst case, 320-mp3. Often when you talk to audiophiles they try to convince you that a clean sound s Wright. For me the right thing is when the listener really enjoys the music. Personally I prefer a deep, pretty strong bass without loosing too much of the middle and high frequences. A good sound is what you think is a good sound. Thank you! Be shure I will try this out and come back with respons.

[Q] AOSP ROMs sound distortion

Hello guys! I'm experiencing sound distortion problems on every AOSP-based rom with android > 4.0 - for example GB, ICS ROMs are ok, but jelly baby/jelly mod/purekat etc. are already have such trouble.
Main problem is that after i increasing volume higher than the "safe level", the sound becomes very distorted (seems like sound pumping after very hard limiting).
I tried to disable\freeze dsp manager, apollo and all that could be causing this, but there is no effect. And yes, after deleting i got clean sound for a while, but a bit later bad sound returning, and only reboot can help for a while again. Also there is very problematic to install some things like viper4android, and poweramp native effects are working very poor (poweramp with sense roms plays pretty much better).
So there is a question - what can i do to made sound just as on the sense roms? Without some kind of sound processors? I just wanted to listen music with poweramp with it's native EQ. Hopefully experienced users of DZ still read these forums. Thanks in advance!

Sound Quality on Nougat Based ROMs

Hi Everyone,
Is it just me or the sound quality after updating to Nougat has really gone down (that we need upgrades like A.R.I.S.E or Divine beats?). Earlier I noticed that we used to have a simple mod for any sound i.e. Viper4Android, which is still MOTHER OF ALL SOUND MODs for me .
I noticed that the audio playback is having VERY MUFFLED bass through my home theatre system over the same bluetooth connection while playing with MM ROM. I tried rolling back to MM and things work perfectly. I wish to stay on Nougat for obvious advantages of the newer UI, better battery & performance but would still like to see if anyone can port the lib from MM to N?
I don't essentially want to install ARISE or Divine Beats; for me Viper4Android is just fine and I would love if it works just the way it used to on MM.
PS: I bought my home theatre after tweaking Viper v2.5.0.5 on MM and the same is not working after updating to N.... any help is appreciated.

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yep i thought i was the only one

I use Beats Audio player & Audio Tuner from sound settings. On headphones sounds good.

Dupleshwar said:
yep i thought i was the only one
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True.
null0seven said:
I use Beats Audio player & Audio Tuner from sound settings. On headphones sounds good.
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The sound libraries have DEFINITELY changed in the system which are truly worse than Marshmallow!
I certainly need someone's help in getting them Ported back or else I have no other option other than rolling back to MM (since I spend 4-5 hrs/day on music). :crying:

anmolkakkar said:
True.
The sound libraries have DEFINITELY changed in the system which are truly worse than Marshmallow!
I certainly need someone's help in getting them Ported back or else I have no other option other than rolling back to MM (since I spend 4-5 hrs/day on music). :crying:
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Viper4Android and Divine beats/A.R.I.S.E are completely different. Divine beats and arise change your music first without you going into the app to change things. When I installed freedomOS with Divine beats, I notice my bass was extremely overpowered and everything just sounded like crap.... I really don't understand people's music choices sometimes. All these sound mods just make the phone sound like crap, especially since the OP3 already has a much warmer profile, meaning the bass and highs are very pronounced from the box

crzykiller said:
Viper4Android and Divine beats/A.R.I.S.E are completely different. Divine beats and arise change your music first without you going into the app to change things. When I installed freedomOS with Divine beats, I notice my bass was extremely overpowered and everything just sounded like crap.... I really don't understand people's music choices sometimes. All these sound mods just make the phone sound like crap, especially since the OP3 already has a much warmer profile, meaning the bass and highs are very pronounced from the box
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Exactly my point.
Even though the sound out of box was very good, using Viper4Android would take it to the next level. But Divine/A.R.I.S.E fiddle too much and extort the audio.
Marshmallow sound libraries were literally awesome and V4A on top of it would just make it mind blowing. Don't know how to get that same experience without going back from Nougat. :'(

anmolkakkar said:
Exactly my point.
Even though the sound out of box was very good, using Viper4Android would take it to the next level. But Divine/A.R.I.S.E fiddle too much and extort the audio.
Marshmallow sound libraries were literally awesome and V4A on top of it would just make it mind blowing. Don't know how to get that same experience without going back from Nougat. :'(
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Well you can install freedomOS without the Divine beats and what not, install Blu_spark kernel and set it to SElinux to permissive. Then you can install Viper4Android on its own and you'll have some nice audio.

crzykiller said:
Well you can install freedomOS without the Divine beats and what not, install Blu_spark kernel and set it to SElinux to permissive. Then you can install Viper4Android on its own and you'll have some nice audio.
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I'll try and see how it goes.

anmolkakkar said:
I'll try and see how it goes.
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I strongly recommend against this. Just install Magisk or use something that comes with Magisk preinstalled and install the Viper4Android from the Magisk repo / Magisk module. There is also one for Dolby Atmos. That way you don't have to mess with SELinux or modify system files.

Nah...Didn't go well.
Still the same sound quality. Muffled and garbled.

I have the EXACT same issue. I can't believe OnePlus went ahead and did this. Who do I tell?

I have great sound...experienceos + viper4arise with magisk. Install permissive script for magisk to avoid overheating issues. Dont tinker to much in viper . This is my speaker setting its loud and very clear. I love it.

humzaahmed155 said:
I have the EXACT same issue. I can't believe OnePlus went ahead and did this. Who do I tell?
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I completely understand....
v.konvict said:
I have great sound...experienceos + viper4arise with magisk. Install permissive script for magisk to avoid overheating issues. Dont tinker to much in viper . This is my speaker setting its loud and very clear. I love it.
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I beg to differ from your opinion here though.
After trying out 4 different Nougat based ROMs and 4 different Marshmallow based ROMs (yeah....took a lot of time with clean installation and stuff), I easily infer that OP3 Nougat ROMs have REALLY POOR sound libraries. Viper4Android alone works well with Marshmallow based ROMs (and using it with A.R.I.S.E/Divine Beats/etc. makes it even better) and bass doesn't distort at all (saved a few Viper Profiles and re-used them between ROMs). But the same profile in Viper on Nougat sounds just CRAP!!
Don't know what the solution here. Just wish there was some way to find out what is it that is causing this to happen? Which part of sound library or which file? Can anyone help?

Headphone Output Volume

Hi guys, recently I noticed that the headphone jack output isn't as loud it used to be in the OOS 3.X days.
For example, setting my OnePlus X aside and comparing the two, I would much rather prefer the louder, more aggressive tones it produces compared to the OP3.
Does anyone know what I could do to work around this? I have the bluspark kernel currently. I flashed francokernel to use gain control and was running into stability issues and bootloops before i could even get to it.
I'm currently on OB14 and my daily driver IEMs are the Xiaomi Hybrid Pro HDs.
Thanks.

Use ARISE Sound mod + V4A. These work great. Also these are included in popular roms like FreedomOS & ExperienceOS.
Hope this helps.

vjendra said:
Use ARISE Sound mod + V4A. These work great. Also these are included in popular roms like FreedomOS & ExperienceOS.
Hope this helps.
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I tried that, but it doesn't seem to make my audio any louder than it was before

humzaahmed155 said:
I tried that, but it doesn't seem to make my audio any louder than it was before
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Do one thing flash FreedomOS and in aroma select Arkamysa and Viper 2.5 (or whichever is latest), do not select anything else in Audio Mods. It will work for sure.

humzaahmed155 said:
I tried that, but it doesn't seem to make my audio any louder than it was before
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Get Viper4Android, do not get any audio mods that come with ROMs if you really do care about audio quality. All these different audio mods make music sound like absolute trash and remove a lot of clarity. Viper4Android doesn't change the sound if you don't want it too and you can go to the last option and boost the gain by I think 10db... That is plenty enough to bring it back to the loudness you like (probably way higher) while not deteriorating the sound much.

Sound boost without root?

Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!

Erjimipey said:
Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!
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try Poweramp

Erjimipey said:
Hey, I'm finding the volume through headphones a bit low sometimes, depending on the mp3...
I've used Dolby Atmos in the past with other phones, but that required rooting, twrp, flashing.... I wouldn't like to have to do the same with this phone. Is there any app or adjustment I can make to boost the volume a bit? I'm already using Ex Equalizer pro, but I don't hear a substantial difference...
Thanks in advance!
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Not a solution - android newbie here.
Signed up to this website to troubleshoot the same issue. I suspect this is a software limitation imposed somewhere in the OS or added on top by the manufacturer, but I consider this a significant con on this phone. I tried listening to music while working out last night and it was just far too low to enjoy, ended up just going with my old iPod instead. I've tried out a few "volume booster" and "EQ" apps but the result as expected is just software based wave scaling that significantly distorts audio without actually increasing output power. If you are interested in audio quality, software EQ is not a solution at all.
I would imagine there would be a system file somewhere that can adjust this but that would likely require root access and whether or not it's in plain readable text is anybody's guess. Unfortunately this is my first Android device so I'm clueless.
I'll try looking for the application posted above.. let's see
update: poweramp isn't free, and from what I'm seeing does nothing that I can't do much better using VLC.
Veering off topic slightly, but is there a solution for users who are willing to root to the device? I'm asking for something that produces higher output voltage from the headphone jack.

serious_don said:
Not a solution - android newbie here.
Signed up to this website to troubleshoot the same issue. I suspect this is a software limitation imposed somewhere in the OS or added on top by the manufacturer, but I consider this a significant con on this ............ do much better using VLC.
Veering off topic slightly, but is there a solution for users who are willing to root to the device? I'm asking for something that produces higher output voltage from the headphone jack.
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Viper4Android can give much better output with certain profiles, but requires root and it's not advisable to root Honor 7X as stock firmware is not released by Honor yet. In most cases one will end up with a bricked phone or a phone without any OTA's

So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...

Erjimipey said:
So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...
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You have to search for a music player which can amplify the sound, most have it as a setting called "Gain". Neutron and Poweramp can do this but they are paid.
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So... Nothing to do? I'd really love more volume but I don't want to root...
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For music download VLC media player (it's free). It's what I went with for now. When you play a song find the menu and bring up the equalizer. At the top of the equalizer is a horizontal bar for volume, you can crank the gain up a bit with that. At 100% it will distort but you can get a nice little boost with it without significantly distorting your music. That's what I'm doing for now. None of the volume boosting apps system-wide have produced any respectable results for me, so for YouTube I'm still stuck with low volume. You can try searching the play store for volume boosters if you don't mind distortion for everything else.
On the other hand, I'm wondering if Bluetooth buds will be able to get me the volume I want. I have a Bluetooth headset but it sounds atrocious for music. Otherwise I'll have to buy a portable amp. Either solution is totally ridiculous IMO.
Honor 7x is a solid phone, even the gimped US model I bought. This is the only problem I've come across with it thus far. I doubt Oreo will fix it, so I'll be waiting until the phone can be reliably rooted.

I'll try VLC and see what I can do with Google play music.
Thanks for your inputs!