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Hi Z2 plus users.
After lot of analysis and research, I finally ordered Lenovo Z2 plus today. Got a great deal.
8k INR / approx 125 USD
I have the option of getting Redmi Note 4 as well at approx 150 USD / 10k
I have gone through lot of videos on youtube with different custom rom reviews of Z2 plus, pros, cons etc.
My main concerns are:
- Battery Life
- Heating issue
- Overall usability without digging into custom rom installations and updates very frequently. I will install custom rom but would like to use it as daily driver for few months at least before I look for new updates etc. (Time is the issue - Don't get much of it these days to do all the research and experiments )
With custom roms like AICP, Jaguar - how is the battery life in terms of SOT?
How is the heating issue with custom roms which this phone is infamous for?
I saw a review from Indian tech reviewer on youtube suggesting Jaguar R14 is very stable and good rom for this. But I see some complains and users posting different issues in Jaguar rom thread.
Kindly suggest, if it will be good to go for this phone now (after 1.5 yrs of it's launch)?
Can I expect to use it as daily driver without any significant issues for next 2-3 years with custom roms?
At present which custom rom will you suggest with regards to Battery life and heating issue resolution?
some inputs here will he really helpful
saurav_k said:
some inputs here will he really helpful
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Try aex/paranoid/citrus and see what suits you best!
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Try aex/paranoid/citrus and see what suits you best!
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I do not have the device yet and that is my dilemma whether to accept it or return it.
Does these roms also have overheating issues?
How is the battery life on these?
CitrusCAF 3.5 by miju12 seems very stable(dont flash custom kernel unless you know what you are doing) and have favourable review from the users.
and Lenovo z2 is better choice anyway
looks okay
Got mine today as well. Same deal as the OP (around $120). First thing done was an upgrade to Nougat. Sept 2016 manufacturing and there was still 30% charge left . Device did heat up during upgrade as it was on charge. Haven't observed any major heating since. I have upgraded (or downgraded) from a oneplus 2 so my criteria of heating may be somewhat biased. A 5 inch display does seem smallish though.
Geekbench 4 was 1720, 3999 which is par for SD820. So no throttling etc.
Just wondering what is so broken about stock ROM ? What's not going well with everyone on ZUI ? I did tweak the DPI to my liking - other than that ROM feels pretty much stockish android. I mean I have heard so much hate about stock ROM for this device?
Edited - Ok I am starting to see oddities. 1. Double notifications (any fixes?)
And the usual follow up questions -
- Does the U touch specialization / gestures (swiping etc) work on the custom roms for this device ? Edited - Yes I guess.
- Would unlocking bootloader reset the device ? If yes, might as well do it before setting up apps etc. Edited - Yes it would like any other device.
Just wondering what is so broken about stock ROM ? What's not going well with everyone on ZUI ? I did tweak the DPI to my liking - other than that ROM feels pretty much stockish android. I mean I have heard so much hate about stock ROM for this device?
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I have been using Rooted ZUI (I believe that’s what the stock rom is called) for a few weeks now (Xposed now, but that’s been just a few days). At first I thought I would keep it stock rooted and get all the things I need with Xposed, but the Notification drawer and Lock screen is getting on my nerves. All notifications are ICS Style, i.e. they are not expandable and they have no quick action (except USB connection to PC which lets u choose cam/file mode). Lock screen has this weird image in the middle which just sits there doing nothing. Notifications doesn't get displayed in lockscreen (weirdly I am getting 1 calendar notification there, but nothing else). I tried enabling lockscreen notification for a lot of apps, but it seems to just allow calendar and nothing else.
The U-touch is awesome BTW, but wont let me start Google Assistant voice through it (I like being able to set alarms through it)
I am currently on the open beta platform and I want to know which rom is the best one considering the above factors.
Camera should be the same as stock one.
Call recorder.
Substratum supported.
Magisk supported.
Battery life better than stock.
Paranoid Android but im not sure about call recording
ali.jujara said:
I am currently on the open beta platform and I want to know which rom is the best one considering the above factors.
Camera should be the same as stock one.
Call recorder.
Substratum supported.
Magisk supported.
Battery life better than stock.
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Had you bothered to search then you would have found that there is no best rom. Each rom works differently depending on the device, personal use, location, signal and many other factors.
This is why best rom threads have been long banned from the forums.
I found Omni 8.1 is pretty stable like stock. Everything is worked on thus rom
As mentioned by @zelendel there is no "best rom!" as such, each ROM has its own feature set.
It depends on the user on what all feature set are required by him/her. The best thing you could do is to go through the forum and read through some of the pages for different ROM's. XDA users post their experience with the ROM and that might help you to decide.
Currently I'm on Omni 8.1 ROM. Its perfect for my requirements (did a little research and then settled on it). Please find the response below in relation to Omni 8.1,
Camera should be the same as stock one. - Use GMod Camera
Call recorder. - No inbuilt function. You can use an external app.
Substratum supported. - As far as I know, substratum might break certain functionalities as reported by users.
Magisk supported. - Yes.
Battery life better than stock. - Yes. This was the major reason I chose to flash this ROM. I'm constantly getting 5+ hrs of SOT.
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As mentioned by @zelendel there is no "best rom!" as such, each ROM has its own feature set.
It depends on the user on what all feature set are required by him/her. The best thing you could do is to go through the forum and read through some of the pages for different ROM's. XDA users post their experience with the ROM and that might help you to decide.
Currently I'm on Omni 8.1 ROM. Its perfect for my requirements (did a little research and then settled on it). Please find the response below in relation to Omni 8.1,
Camera should be the same as stock one. - Use GMod Camera
Call recorder. - No inbuilt function. You can use an external app.
Substratum supported. - As far as I know, substratum might break certain functionalities as reported by users.
Magisk supported. - Yes.
Battery life better than stock. - Yes. This was the major reason I chose to flash this ROM. I'm constantly getting 5+ hrs of SOT.
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@sumicool7- Bro can you help me how do you manage to get 5 hrs of SOT i could barely get 3hrs of SOT with very basic use of Social apps. Are you using any specific kernal or settings?
The best ROM is Omni 8.1
There is no such thing as best rom, every rom has some pros and cons. But after using most of the roms i found z- unleashed as most stable & smooth rom.you should give it s try
So I am switching to the One + 5T, I am coming from the Axon 7. I have alot of reading to do to catch up to current activity. I am curious if someone could assist on what to do and what not to do to quickly optimize my experience with this device. Are there certain update to do and not to do to avoid getting to a point of no return? I am not new to romming and unlocking the potential of devices.
On devices previously, it was better not to do certain updates due to locking yourself out of certain features and abilities that rooting and flashing custom roms provides. Mostly I would like to know what not to do, as I will read through all tutorials and instructions to find what best works for me. I would like to get the device I will be using daily up to speed.
Are there kernels that are better than others for battery like without compromising performance?
I read that 'codename phoenix' is the only ASOP with full OEM camera functionality, Is this still true as where I rad that could easily be dated with all the support for this device?
Any guidance or answers are greatly appreciated. To this device I am a noob, but not to the helpful community atmosphere XDA can provide
Thanks and Kind Regards,
Fellow enthusiast.
+1 for OP.
Wondering also what are possible benefits and drawbacks of using custom/modded version of kernel?
I couldn't get the OOS portrait mode to work on codename phenoix. In my experience codename phenoix had the worst camera experience. Every app like Snapchat and instagram had camera bugs and other ROMs don't. I also recommend flash kernel on any ROM. Rock stable and fast AF . there's always a way to get back to 100% stock and locked bootloader. I have net heard of a fully hard brick that couldnt be fixed. So go for it, even if u stay on OOS then later choose to go custom roms.
I'm on custom ROMs using gcam v6 beta. Its way better than OOS cam. I'm using the HDR front cam fix and I have the pixel 2 portrait mode on front and rear. Way better than OOS portrait but only work on human faces. U can also use this on OOS but with the fix it breaks face unlock
I'm in the same situation here, I'm getting my OP5T tomorrow and I've been reading XDA non-stop for a week trying to figure out the differences between the popular ROMs and Kernels so I know where to start.
So far I've come to the conclusion that Flash Kernel (for custom Roms or OOS) and RenderZenith (for OOS Stock only) are probably the best kernels around if you want performance and stability. Franco Kernel would be for saving more battery probably sacrificing performance.
And for stable ROMs (I don't care too much about customization, I just want stability and performance) either Omnirom or Liquid Remix.
Of course that it's really hard to judge without even being able to try them first and just reading lots of comments about each one, so I think I'll start with these first and see what happens. I've also seen many people recommending Resurrection Remix.
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I'm in the same situation here, I'm getting my OP5T tomorrow and I've been reading XDA non-stop for a week trying to figure out the differences between the popular ROMs and Kernels so I know where to start.
So far I've come to the conclusion that Flash Kernel (for custom Roms or OOS) and RenderZenith (for OOS Stock only) are probably the best kernels around if you want performance and stability. Franco Kernel would be for saving more battery probably sacrificing performance.
And for stable ROMs (I don't care too much about customization, I just want stability and performance) either Omnirom or Liquid Remix.
Of course that it's really hard to judge without even being able to try them first and just reading lots of comments about each one, so I think I'll start with these first and see what happens. I've also seen many people recommending Resurrection Remix.
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Tbh u just need to get them and try them all. I was like you. I made my mind up, that I would stick to RR when I got it. But I've tried most of the ROMs now, and tbh they are really similar in features wise. Some have little bits and pieces which make you stay. For example on cr droid u can customise the alert slider to toggle auto rotate and force rotation off etc.
Some ROMs lagged for me, some had delays when waking the screen, some didn't have proximity check when in pocket. Its up to you. Personally. Any time i'm on a custom ROM, I just flash , flash kernel because I know its amazing and lag free.
Ive been using Cr droid with flash kernel for weeks bug free with flash kernel for weeks.
I spent like one morning. Downloading all the ROMs, wiping and flashing them all without gapps so the install Is quick and just go through and looking at everything. U will be suprised how similar lots of them are. Its the little things that I look for.
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Tbh u just need to get them and try them all. I was like you. I made my mind up, that I would stick to RR when I got it. But I've tried most of the ROMs now, and tbh they are really similar in features wise. Some have little bits and pieces which make you stay. For example on cr droid u can customise the alert slider to toggle auto rotate and force rotation off etc.
Some ROMs lagged for me, some had delays when waking the screen, some didn't have proximity check when in pocket. Its up to you. Personally. Any time i'm on a custom ROM, I just flash , flash kernel because I know its amazing and lag free.
Ive been using Cr droid with flash kernel for weeks bug free with flash kernel for weeks.
I spent like one morning. Downloading all the ROMs, wiping and flashing them all without gapps so the install Is quick and just go through and looking at everything. U will be suprised how similar lots of them are. Its the little things that I look for.
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Thanks for your reply!
I'm thinking the first days I'll keep OOS and maybe flash "Flash Kernel" or "RenderZenith" since apparently it gives the smoothest experience and then I'll start flashing ROMs. I really like the idea of ROMs with OTA updates like LineageOS which I currently have on my Moto G4 Plus because then I don't have to continuously check the forums to see if there is an update available, do you know of any other custom ROM that does this? Also, when you update a ROM, do you have to flash the kernel again each time?
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Thanks for your reply!
I'm thinking the first days I'll keep OOS and maybe flash "Flash Kernel" or "RenderZenith" since apparently it gives the smoothest experience and then I'll start flashing ROMs. I really like the idea of ROMs with OTA updates like LineageOS which I currently have on my Moto G4 Plus because then I don't have to continuously check the forums to see if there is an update available, do you know of any other custom ROM that does this? Also, when you update a ROM, do you have to flash the kernel again each time?
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Yeah the custom kernel needs to be reflashed. So the ota will update but u will still need to flash a kernel which to me defeats the purpose of an ota. So I just manually do it. Also kernels get updated often too. OK what I recommend. As soon as u get the phone. Unlock the bootloader and install magisk. And stay stock for a while. Try out the camera (I miss the OOS cam with that awesome 4k stabilisation) but gcam is better for the rest. And then try custom kernels. I didn't really notice much difference on oos with custom kernels but on aosp I noticed it fly.
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Yeah the custom kernel needs to be reflashed. So the ota will update but u will still need to flash a kernel which to me defeats the purpose of an ota. So I just manually do it. Also kernels get updated often too. OK what I recommend. As soon as u get the phone. Unlock the bootloader and install magisk. And stay stock for a while. Try out the camera (I miss the OOS cam with that awesome 4k stabilisation) but gcam is better for the rest. And then try custom kernels. I didn't really notice much difference on oos with custom kernels but on aosp I noticed it fly.
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Awesome! And one last question if you don't mind, I'm pretty sure the phone will come with Android 7.1.2 and my understanding is that the latest OOS version contains Oreo. After hearing about all the bugs Oreo brought, should I stay in Nougat for now or is it safe to upgrade to Oreo? I don't mind staying in Nougat for now if it means I'll have better battery life and/or stability.
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Awesome! And one last question if you don't mind, I'm pretty sure the phone will come with Android 7.1.2 and my understanding is that the latest OOS version contains Oreo. After hearing about all the bugs Oreo brought, should I stay in Nougat for now or is it safe to upgrade to Oreo? I don't mind staying in Nougat for now if it means I'll have better battery life and/or stability.
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I'm using OOS 5.0.4 completely stock Android 8.0.0 which is the latest official version there is (to my knowledge) and I haven't experienced a single bug.
bkn89 said:
Awesome! And one last question if you don't mind, I'm pretty sure the phone will come with Android 7.1.2 and my understanding is that the latest OOS version contains Oreo. After hearing about all the bugs Oreo brought, should I stay in Nougat for now or is it safe to upgrade to Oreo? I don't mind staying in Nougat for now if it means I'll have better battery life and/or stability.
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Oneplus last nougat update was 7.1.1 and the Oreo update for me has less bugs for me and has better battery life. Custom kernels can fix battery life ?. Wouldn't recommend to stay on nougat. Everyones on the Oreo train
TBH i feel that the stock OS is fine performance and battery wise and there is not much point rooting and installing a custom ROM unless you want even more customization than what OOS gives u
I think you're better off running the stock ROM (8.0 or 8.1) and stock kernel first on any new device, at least for a few days, to get a baseline. After that try different kernels and/or ROMs if you're not satisfied with stock.
Unless you have the stock experience you've nothing to compare custom mods to.
And to be frank, OOS is a pretty awesome AOSP mod anyway and any difference a kernel is going to make is in the margins.
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I think you're better off running the stock ROM (8.0 or 8.1) and stock kernel first on any new device, at least for a few days, to get a baseline. After that try different kernels and/or ROMs if you're not satisfied with stock.
Unless you have the stock experience you've nothing to compare custom mods to.
And to be frank, OOS is a pretty awesome AOSP mod anyway and any difference a kernel going to make is in the margins.
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^ this
I bought this phone a month ago and still using till now. After trying all stock and custom roms, I have my own choice, just simple, stock 5.0.4 rom (or beta 5 rom) + your favorite kernel (up to you) + stock camera mod (it's a must if you need better quality photos) + magisk (for camera mod) = stable daily use for me.
I have been using for over a week and I think it's going better with time, so far so good now, average 8 hrs SoT (15% bettery left) within 50+ hrs is about the same as my old Mate9, still less than custom rom 1 hr SoT but no problem for me (the phone comes with Dash charger). I also use Xposed with GB that's why I dont need custom roms anymore.
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I bought this phone a month ago and still using till now. After trying all stock and custom roms, I have my own choice, just simple, stock 5.0.4 rom (or beta 5 rom) + your favorite kernel (up to you) + stock camera mod (it's a must if you need better quality photos) + magisk (for camera mod) = stable daily use for me.
I have been using for over a week and I think it's going better with time, so far so good now, average 8 hrs SoT (15% bettery left) within 50+ hrs is about the same as my old Mate9, still less than custom rom 1 hr SoT but no problem for me (the phone comes with Dash charger). I also use Xposed with GB that's why I dont need custom roms anymore.
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Can you link which camera mod has there's a few knocking around it's it the gcam
Thanks
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Can you link which camera mod has there's a few knocking around it's it the gcam
Thanks
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Here you are:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/mod-oneplus-camera-jpg-quality-to-100-t3714595
the title is for Oneplus5 but it's working well with 5T also, no problem so far. I used to use Gcam but after days I realized that it's not much better than stock mod cam. In addition, gcam shutter speed is slower than stock mod cam and it lacks of many feature from the stock one. I can say with stock mod cam, OP5T photo quality is better than my Mate9 right now, Im sure for that. (with original stock cam, it's the worst but with stock mod cam, it's much better than many cams out there, no more noise and grain in low light)
I've just come from mate 9 , bought a view 10 last week , really pissed at the camera/video lack of eis makes it unusuable.
Received 5t a few hours ago flashed beta and took some snaps video and I'm impressed
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Already missing ir blaster
Trust me i have been user of OP3 and now op5t ..OOS is best out there and if you wanto to go swing and unlock bootloaderOOS+Franco is lethal ..you can also use xXx no limits available on OP 5 forums or any other OOS based custom roms
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I bought this phone a month ago and still using till now. After trying all stock and custom roms, I have my own choice, just simple, stock 5.0.4 rom (or beta 5 rom) + your favorite kernel (up to you) + stock camera mod (it's a must if you need better quality photos) + magisk (for camera mod) = stable daily use for me.
I have been using for over a week and I think it's going better with time, so far so good now, average 8 hrs SoT (15% bettery left) within 50+ hrs is about the same as my old Mate9, still less than custom rom 1 hr SoT but no problem for me (the phone comes with Dash charger). I also use Xposed with GB that's why I dont need custom roms anymore.
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What module are you using in magisk
If you would all be so kind as to follow this format:.
(I'm making it it's own post as well so you can easily reply to that one and then edit it to make it your own) :
Original Variant/Carrier:
Current Variant/Carrier:
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can):
Custom or modified kernel:
Additional Features:
Missing / Broken Features:
Overall Likes:
Overall Dislikes:
Custom Modifications:
Theme(s):
Magisk Modules:
Xposed Modules:
Must have Apps:
Must have accessory:
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I'm most likely undereducated here but I have never seen reason to try/use a custom ROM. The great folks here on XDA are always quick to publish the latest tweaks and updates, so I feel like my device is as good as it's going to get. But, I'm hoping I'm wrong.
So that is why I am starting this discussion. Maybe your feedback and opinions will get me and any other user lacking ROM knowledge to convert.
Or maybe we will discover some fun difference in Variants and find a way to Port it over to all devices. No matter what, I think it would be useful to see what everyone is running on their device on a typical day. It may even help other development just to see what the average user is using.
Original Variant/Carrier:
Current Variant/Carrier:
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can):
Custom or modified kernel:
Additional Features:
Missing / Broken Features:
Overall Likes:
Overall Dislikes:
Custom Modifications:
Theme(s):
Magisk Modules:
Xposed Modules:
Must have Apps:
Must have accessory:
Reserved. Will eventually list most popular info gathered from users
Original Variant/Carrier:
LS998 - Sprint
Current Variant/Carrier:
LS99827a (flashed from zip created by JohnFawkes) - Sprint
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can):
No custom ROM.
Custom or modified kernel:
Not gonna lie, I don't really understand these so I don't mess with them.
Additional Features:
Volte is enabled in this build. VoWifi. Newest security patch.
Missing / Broken Features:
This build replaced Sprints old version of Voice over LTE with current VOLTE
Overall Likes:
Great stock build. Props to JohnFawkes (I think I read before he doesn't like being tagged in none relevant posts which is why I'm not)
Overall Dislikes:
Just the things LG trys to hide.
Custom Modifications:
Google Dialer, FM radio w/ Recording functionality, updated LGIncallUI to allow call recording. Resize all apps. Quick Setting count changed to 9. (I'm forgetting some and will edit later)
Theme(s):
Twilight, Pixel Experience Dark
Magisk Modules:
Anxious V30, App Systemizer, XMLpak, Google dialer framework, Magisk Manager for Recovery, Rboard Themes, Greenify for magisk.
Xposed Modules:
None
Must have Apps:
Shortcut Master, Preference Manager. Mixxplorer, XDA Labs, Bouncer, SD Maid, SetEdit, Appops, Terminal Emulator, Titanium BackUp, SMS backup and Restore, Cetusplay, Graphy, ApK Updater
Must have accessory:
Generic flip cover case
Zero Lemon extended battery. I use this a few times per week and is great for just keeping it on while your batter recharges and then switching back to a more manageable sized device.
Lgtone headset: not Hifi quadac but does use DTS 3d sound.
Couple of Wireless charging base
Original Variant/Carrier: 930DS Taiwan
Current Variant/Carrier: 930DS HongKong 21w Oreo
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can): Stock
Additional Features:
Missing / Broken Features:
Overall Likes: Look, battery life, quite smooth with the 21W build
Overall Dislikes: Camera/app is so so (most disappointed)
Custom Modifications:
Advanced Kernel Tweaks, Nova Launcher, Fluid NG (best gesture navigation)
Theme(s): Light stock
Magisk Modules:
Ainur Sauron, Audio Compatibility Patch, Audio Modification Library, Universal GMS Doze, Viper4Audio FX
Xposed Modules: None
Must have Apps:
Forcedoze, AdAway, Poweramp, Youtube Vanced, ES File Explorer (old version), Gboard, Fluid NG, Nova Launcher
Must have accessory:
Ringke Hardcase, Audio Technica M50X.
No screen protector, haven't found one that actually works, so in the past 6 months have been naked
Use phone mostly for music, reading and shares trading
Desired profile - runs smooth, scrolls smooth, responsive when it is awake, and deep sleep when it is off.
No AOD used
Original Variant/Carrier: H933 (Canadian Unlocked)
Current Variant/Carrier: US998 / DIGICEL ??
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can): Stock 20g
Additional Features:
Missing / Broken Features:Stuck on one LTE band and have not been able to fix
Overall Likes: Phone is sleek an beautiful/ that wide angle tho!
Overall Dislikes: power button should be seperated from fingerprint but I've gotten accustomed
Custom Modifications:Google Dialer,updated LGIncallUI
Theme(s): LG UX 7, One UI Round
Magisk Modules:Anxious V30
Xposed Modules: None
Must have Apps:ES file Explorer,Youtube Vanced,Youtube Downloader,Paypal
Must have accessory:Would love screen protector but accessories for this phone are non existent here, A Case, Micro Usb to Usb C Adapters
Original Variant/Carrier: H930DS
Current Variant/Carrier: H930DS
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can): Stock Oreo 21w
Additional Features:
Missing / Broken Features:
Overall Likes: Feel of body (Reason behind being naked thus far). AMOLED Screen. (Coming from a G5). Performance so far - smooth.
Overall Dislikes: Screen bleeding. Battery (I got a used one. It's better than my previous phone so it's not that bad. Keep in mind I had 2 batteries with my previous phone. So it's better than those combined. Am listing the battery in this section because other guys seem to have really good 2-3 day batteries.)
Custom Modifications: Google dialer, DTS 3D, Fluid NG, Nova launcher, Custom Icon pack
Theme(s): Pixel 2
Magisk Modules: ACC, V4A, Google Dialer Framework, Sony Music
Xposed Modules: N/A
Must have Apps: Youtube Vanced, Lucky Patcher, Adaway, Videoder, Bittorrent, SolidExplorer.
Must have accessory: High Impedance Headphones (Don't have any. Just rocking Jaybird x2s).
Will update as I find cool stuff
Original Variant/Carrier: H931
Current Variant/Carrier: H931
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can): Liquid Remix (2019-03-08)
Additional Features: Too many to list compared to stock
Missing / Broken Features: None
Overall Likes: Buttery smooth, and has a ton of customization over stock LG with Liquid.
Overall Dislikes: Battery life is not quite as good as stock. Service can be patchy some times.
Custom Modifications: Custom Kernel
Theme(s): Black (stock?)
Magisk Modules: YouTube Vanced, Twemoji, Greenify
Xposed Modules: None
Must have Apps: EXKernel Manager
Must have accessory: A case and screen protector
So far we only have one person using a custom ROM. I'm surprised, I thought everyone used one them except me.
Any users or non users have opinions on why or why you don't use ROMs?
Anyone using custom Kernels?
Like ROMs, Kernels are another popular mod I personally don't use, but people seem pretty into modifying them/upgrading them, so I'm going to add that field to the original posts now as its prob worth a discussion too...
JonnyTrulove said:
So far we only have one person using a custom ROM. I'm surprised, I thought everyone used one them except me.
Any users or non users have opinions on why or why you don't use ROMs?
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Custom ROMs currently do not have LG's DTS 3D Stereo -- but mostly because with my current job, I can't risk stuff like this:
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This rom works great!!!! There's only one problem... I can't get incoming calls and incoming texts (for the most part)... Some texts come in at around a 40 second delay. Is this a normal bug or something no one has ever heard before?
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Just a random comment pulled off bottom of a ROM thread before replying to this question. On my previous phone (Moto Quark) I ran stable custom ROMs all the time -- especially Resurrection Remix. For 3 years never ran stock, once we got custom ROMs.
I even kept a thread going with all the Moto Quark (Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx) custom ROMs available-- because we were spread over two different XDA forums. (Sort of like how the LG V30S has its own XDA forum for no reason?) But both Quark forums were active, but all CM/Lineage ROMs were compatible with all variants). Over there, I was the ROM expert. . I flashed ROMs all the time on my and my wife's phones.
But on this V30+, I'm running rooted stock firmware with Magisk mods, Xposed modules and build prop edits.
Also, I like the Quad DAC and I LOVE the new DTS 3D Stereo, which custom ROMs don't have yet (DTS is what I'm talking about)... to my knowledge.
That's no disrespect to any of the custom devs in this forum. It's just personally, I just can't risk my phone not working with my current job -- and rooted stock firmware with mods gives me what I need. You asked, so I answered.
Current Variant/Carrier: H930ds/Airtel
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can): Aosp extended
Custom or modified kernel: -
Additional Features:change custom animations of everything, change recents menu, statusbar customizations..
Missing / Broken Features: cts profile not passed, have to do that manually to make gpay work.
Overall Likes: smoother than stock, somehow screen looks better on aosp than stock.less stutters compared to stock
Overall Dislikes: battery life is a little worse than stock, miss our camera, a few apps work stuttery like tinder, low speaker volume!!!
Custom Modifications:
Theme(s): -
Magisk Modules: Magisk hide props, anxious v30 module,rboard themes
Xposed Modules: -
Must have Apps: UAPP
Note- one of the best in terms of features , most loved features are the launcher which let's u do a lot !! And u can get those extra steps of volume which is there on stock when u turn on HiFi !! Other roms are missing those..
JonnyTrulove said:
So far we only have one person using a custom ROM. I'm surprised, I thought everyone used one them except me.
Any users or non users have opinions on why or why you don't use ROMs?
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I use VS996 stock rooted because it gives me everything I need. Sure, it's not Pie, but who cares? I don't get the obsession with getting the latest OS level, because you can usually get all those features via apps if you really want them... particularly if you're rooted. Yes, I know some lower-level things are not there... but it's not that big of a deal.
Longer rant - this is why I can't buy the "fragmentation" complaint from iOS people. On iOS you HAVE to upgrade the OS to get many newer features, because that's how Apple does it. In Android, you can get most (if not all) of those features with just apps... the OS is not a factor. For example, Siri came out and immediately was not available on the previous gen phone... because it required a special chip or some other such nonsense. Meanwhile, Google Now (predecessor to Assistant) was available to previous OSes without issue...
Anyway, beyond that, I also stick to stock because I get VOLTE on VS996 with my Verizon MVNO (Total Wireless)... other ROMs haven't figured out Verizon's VOLTE from what I read.
And, as ChazzMatt said, he needs a working phone, as do I... I don't have time to troubleshoot or deal with lack of voice, lack of calls, etc.
I did do a lot of ROMming in the past on my Galaxy S3 and previous phones, but it was always a challenge keeping it running. Tweaks were a constant game, and it just was a lot more work than I cared to do. With stock rooted, things work well, and the plethora of app solutions for minor features (or even Magisk/root mods) make pretty much everything available... so I don't bother anymore. My previous Droid Turbo phone is still working on stock rooted, and works pretty well (heavy things chew out the battery, and the battery is 4 years old... but if I can run it for 4 years, that's a good deal). Heck, my Galaxy S3s are still used occasionally as video cameras to monitor our cats...
I ask you, why bother with a ROM? What's missing?
No offense to our ROM makers... they are doing an awesome job. Frankly, without them and their experimentation, we wouldn't have the options we have anyway. This level of experimentation is important, and I'm glad it exists... it's just not for me...
@ChazzMatt I'm glad you jumped in here. I was really curious to hear what you were running since you're so active in the V30 dev boards and have contributed so much to the community.
Honestly I'd probably have a bricked device if not for you and a couple other devs on here.
If you find a ROM down the road that works for you, please let me know as I'm kinda in the same boat you are when it comes to needing a stable everyday driver.
Thanks for adding your two cents.
Stock rom has the amazing camera and it's features , more steps in volume control !! Now with ozop animations it's even more fun to play with..
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Custom roms- more fluid and better animations , less lag ,can't get this on stock ...
For me the screen looks better somehow in custom ones, maybe the caliberation..
Glad the dac still works.. Google camera can make up for clicking pics.. gonna miss the video capabilities..
There are always minor issues like fingerprint sensor sometimes doesn't work, few app crashes.. on the upside most apps work better smoother on custom roms since it's stock based
It definitely demands a try.. really thank all the developers , I request those who are leaving to come back,your demands will be met ?..
I've decided to use custom roms as daily drivers and stock only when I go out on vacations for the camera capabilities.. now that switching is much simpler with migrate , it's all possible and less cumbersome..
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Stock rom has the amazing camera and it's features , more steps in volume control !! Now with ozop animations it's even more fun to play with..
Vs
Custom roms- more fluid and better animations , less lag ,can't get this on stock ...
For me the screen looks better somehow in custom ones, maybe the caliberation..
Glad the dac still works.. Google camera can make up for clicking pics.. gonna miss the video capabilities..
There are always minor issues like fingerprint sensor sometimes doesn't work, few app crashes.. on the upside most apps work better smoother on custom roms since it's stock based
It definitely demands a try.. really thank all the developers , I request those who are leaving to come back,your demands will be met [emoji16]..
I've decided to use custom roms as daily drivers and stock only when I go out on vacations for the camera capabilities.. now that switching is much simpler with migrate , it's all possible and less cumbersome..
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I'm still new to this phone. What's this 'ozop animation'?
Sent from my LG-US998 using Tapatalk
Its a zip flashable in twrp used to change system animations, pretty dope..
Works flawlessly.. But there's a possibility of soft bricking your phone.. Mine went down twice.. Maybe cos i reflashed it to change the animations without first uninstalling it.
Superior OS
model- H930ds, airtel sim,india.
Rom- Superior OS with the kernel mentioned in the forum!
Goodies-many customizations- look at the screenshots below.
Note- I think with the kernel the speaker volume has increased!! Battery is average with greenify, more or less like stock oreo. The dev maintaining the rom is pretty active and helpful!
bad- problem with the navbar, back button only works if i tap it twice so i had to use built in one plus gestures. When i have my earphones on and i text a message on whatsapp , magically the volume suddenly increases as if the Dac is on at full power!! i have to unplug and replug them to save my ears. The same happens if a song is paused and theres a phone call, volume of thats gonna one day damage my ear drums pretty bad..
Suggestions- same as my previous rom review. AND USE THIS GCAM- https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gca...jGE8qLGOpTKkcxN_7B0juXg1J6Msg7MRNITNEOhYqsFzg
been my daily driver for a week now.
so far so good..
Original Variant/Carrier: China Frankensteined V300L on a VS996
Current Variant/Carrier: V300S
Name of Custom ROM (link if you can): None. Rooted stock.
Custom or modified kernel: None. Yet.
Additional Features: None yet.
Missing / Broken Features: No more OTA update from LG
Overall Likes: The ultra wide. Sole reason I got LG phones. And this fone keeps it at a good 120 instead of the newer Gs & Vs 107.
Being a photographer, I don't understand the bokeh craze. EVERYTHING should be in a photo not just a person or some random object. Wide angle changes everything when it comes to mobile photography. Telephoto.. psshhh.. We got feet for a reason.
Overall Dislikes: No IR!!! Damn you LG!
Custom Modifications: Magisk root. More to come.
Theme(s): Coming soon.
Magisk Modules: Coming soon.
Xposed Modules: Never really bothered with xposed aside from using it to join the PoGo craze a years back
Must have Apps: ES File pro to get around the phone, Titanium Backup to debloat.
Must have accessory: Soon to arrive wireless charging dock and a silicone case for the back. Don't think I'll bother with SPs. My G5 lasted a good 3 years without one and is still scratch free.
I've not had the time to fiddle with phone too much. Just got it like yesterday and flashed it the same night after finding out it was already frankensteined. Might as well no?
Original Variant/Carrier: HK H930DS
Current Variant/Carrier: H930
ROM: Stock OPEN EU 21w
Custom or modified kernel: none
Additional Features: Magisk, stock DTS, stock additional weather animations
Missing / Broken Features: IR blaster, LG UI (yes it's a broken feature !), faulty headphone jack after 5 months, stock amoled dark theme
Overall Likes: Almost everything. Smooth, sufficient battery life, great screen, perfect size, no notch, wide angle, quad DAC, DTS (even it's not as cool as the universal port), SD card availability, 128GB internal storage, small useful features... I enjoy using my v30 every day !
Overall Dislikes: why no IR blaster ? And the button dance to get to recovery is perfectly silly. I would like to use custom ROMs (old Redmi note 3 user here, MIUI ditched directly after bootloader unlock and stock used from nougat to pie) but it still lacks too much stock features for me (hi-res/loud recording, stock camera, overall stability)
Custom Modifications: LG stock apps aren't as satisfying as Google's, so I froze most of them and use Google dialer, messages etc. Lastest lawnchair alpha installed and used too.
Theme(s): Swift black theme, pretty satisfying combined with the lg g7 black theme found on playstore. I just deactivated the System UI part, it keeps white notifications but it's ok. I couldn't change of system accent so I matched it with the swift black app.
Magisk Modules: ADB & fastboot, busybox, FDroid privileged, Google Dialer Framework, MagiskHide props config, safety patch, universal GMS doze, YouTube Vanced... And more to come : LKT or NFS-Injector or fde.ai (still needs to identify which one is the best and if it's really useful), ainur sauron + jamesdsp + aml (I always have problems with audio mods setup with this phone)
Xposed Modules: none
Must have Apps: MiX, PowerAmp, SD Maid, Link2SD, Greenify aaaaand XDA Labs
Must have accessory: a 128GB SD card for tons of music !!!
Coming next: I have to fix my damn headphone jack. Ihope scratching it from the inside will be enough... Otherwise I'd have to call EU warranty on a HK imported model, which isn't exactly a good idea. A custom toggle in quick settings for location (high/low accuracy) would also be nice. I would also like to write down in one place in this forum all the 'differences' between all the v30 variants and state clearly for all new users which one is compatible with the other.
Help me to create mini FAQ.
Stock
PROs:
CONs:
AOSP
PROs:
CONs:
crDroid [AlexKarimov]
PROs:
1 - Fast: Very responsive and loads quick. Example: stock used to delay when using google maps at all the wrong times. This ROM is lightning quick and I never miss a turn or exit.
2 - Stable: I've had only one or two random reboots but it's very rare.
3 - Customization: There is a high level of customization in this ROM. A LOT of options. At this point, I can't even tell you what I'm missing.
Bonus: Stock launcher is very nice. I usually upgrade to Nova for one reason or another but this has almost all the same features as Nova.
CONs:
1 - Data speed: I hesitate to put this here because I'm not sure if it's my ROM or incorrect APN settings(I don't remember stock so I've had to experiment). I've played around with different APNs and found one that works really good but data speed still seems a little slower than stock but only on Play Store for some reason.
Pixel Experience
PROs:
CONs:
LineAge OS 15.1
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LineAge OS 16
PROs:
CONs:
I've had crDroid for about 2 months now, here's what I've observed:
crDroid
PROs:
1 - Fast: Very responsive and loads quick. Example: stock used to delay when using google maps at all the wrong times. This ROM is lightning quick and I never miss a turn or exit.
2 - Stable: I've had only one or two random reboots but it's very rare.
3 - Customization: There is a high level of customization in this ROM. A LOT of options. At this point, I can't even tell you what I'm missing.
Bonus: Stock launcher is very nice. I usually upgrade to Nova for one reason or another but this has almost all the same features as Nova.
CONs:
1 - Data speed: I hesitate to put this here because I'm not sure if it's my ROM or incorrect APN settings(I don't remember stock so I've had to experiment). I've played around with different APNs and found one that works really good but data speed still seems a little slower than stock but only on Play Store for some reason.
General Impression: I love this ROM! It has just about everything I want(minus a few tweaks that are in AEX) but any drawbacks I've found are very minimal compared with the benefits.
Thank you for this comparison. I've recently purchased a second xz1c and just loaded AEX on it, so I'll give some impressions in a few weeks on that.
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I've had crDroid for about 2 months now, here's what I've observed:
Thank you for this comparison. I've recently purchased a second xz1c and just loaded AEX on it, so I'll give some impressions in a few weeks on that.
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Thanks for review! Together we can bring up neat comparision of xz1 FW's!
Stock fw
pro:
Good battery life and has ultra stamina mode. Also Sony stock apps and audio tuning if you are into that kind of stuff. With combining firmware bits you can get volte and fingerprint working in US T-mobile.
con:
September 2019 is the last security patch, since then multiple vulnerabilities have been found including bluetooth "Bluefrag" vulnerability.
Lineage OS 17
Overall very clean and snappy rom. It's currently my daily driver.
Pro:
-Android 10.0 and everything that comes with it:
Built in gesture navigation
Re-worked permission management
New launcher/recents menu
-average battery life
-stock camera
-passes safetynet check
-trebuchet launcher with app lock functionality
-very stable, so far I have had no random reboots or anything of the sort.
Con:(not a lot)
-does not have picture preview after picture was taken on back camera in stock cam
-stock cam cannot save to sd card
Thanks for sharing your findings! Would you recommend LOS 16 or 17 over stock fw? How stable is it and how's the battery life? I have stock oreo and don't want to update due to the complaints. I've experienced some lag and restarts lately but I wonder if the long process of unlocking bl and flashing custom fw is worth it.
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Thanks for sharing your findings! Would you recommend LOS 16 or 17 over stock fw? How stable is it and how's the battery life? I have stock oreo and don't want to update due to the complaints. I've experienced some lag and restarts lately but I wonder if the long process of unlocking bl and flashing custom fw is worth it.
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Big thanks also from me to MDomokos for sharing the experience.
I'm also very interested in answers for the questions posted by moist_line.
moist_line said:
Thanks for sharing your findings! Would you recommend LOS 16 or 17 over stock fw? How stable is it and how's the battery life? I have stock oreo and don't want to update due to the complaints. I've experienced some lag and restarts lately but I wonder if the long process of unlocking bl and flashing custom fw is worth it.
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Using LOS 16.0 for 2 weeks with 47.2.A.11.228 stock firmware. Working perfectly and no problems with any app (no GAPPS installed and only using openSource apks such as: Signal, Telegram, K-9, QKSMS, OsmAnd, etc...)
Battery life, better than with stock Android 8.0 ( i never used Android 9 from Sony, just when i updated firmware to reboot and install LineageOS )
Since i'm working from home, is true that my XZ1C uses wifi all the time, but anyways, 3 days of battery is awesome
moist_line said:
Thanks for sharing your findings! Would you recommend LOS 16 or 17 over stock fw? How stable is it and how's the battery life? I have stock oreo and don't want to update due to the complaints. I've experienced some lag and restarts lately but I wonder if the long process of unlocking bl and flashing custom fw is worth it.
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I've been using Lineage OS 17 by modpunk for the last three weeks and it's been very reliable. I have nano Gapps installed and get about 7% of battery used per hour with the screen on, and about 0.4% of battery drained per hour in stand by mode as reported by Franco Kernel Manager. Battery life for me is a bit worse than stock as there is no fine control over battery modes such as with stamina mode. I can get two days battery life with about 5 hours of screen on time, though I limit my charging to between 85%-15% which makes it a bit shorter.
I like the android 10 gestures as it frees up more space on the screen and I also like the new permission management for location. And I can't live without adaway which requires root.
I personally am happy with unlocking the boot loader and there is no significant difference besides when initially turning on the phone it shows a boot loader unblocked message. And the newer security patches are worth it in my opinion.
There is a easy to follow PDF guide that can explains all of the steps in the thread about DRM Key backups. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/development/devonly-exploits-temp-root-to-backup-t3795510
I'll link it here if I find it.
But I wouldn't recommend it if you are planning on selling your phone in the near future.
Edit:
Found the PDF https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78255334&postcount=382
Make sure to read all instructions thoroughly and donate to developers if possible.
Hope this all helped.