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As the title states, has anyone's 2013 n7 bricked after the 5.0.2 update when flashing a factory image instead of the OTA? Mine bricked after taking the 5.0.1 OTA, but i now have it back from Asus after repair and am wanting to flash the factory image to 5.0.2. However, if anyone has experienced bricking as a result of this (or 5.0.1 or 5.0) being flashed and not just the OTA, which we know is bricking devices, then I will stick with 4.4.4 for now.
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You can not brick a Nexus 7 unless you somehow screw up the bootloader and can no longer enter the bootloader.
khaytsus said:
You can not brick a Nexus 7 unless you somehow screw up the bootloader and can no longer enter the bootloader.
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Well then some form of that must be happening due to or in very strange coincidence with the 5.0, 5.0.1, and 5.0.2 updates - just ask those of us whose tablets turned off only to turn on and be stuck at the google logo with so far zero solution for fixing it other than a hardware replacement. My tablet was at ASUS's repair factory for almost a month and had the motherboard replaced. This was after a "successful" OTA update to 5.0.1 that worked for a few days and then died. This has happened more than just infrequently to many members on here recently.
So what I would like to know is is anyone experienced the same "successful update" and then a few days later a dead tablet via factory image flashingof 5.0+. We already know that taking the OTA to 5.0+ might be a problem, and before I flash up to 5.0.2 I'd like to hear if anyone did a manual factory image flash and still had the die a few days later issue, despite not going via OTA.
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Well then some form of that must be happening due to or in very strange coincidence with the 5.0, 5.0.1, and 5.0.2 updates - just ask those of us whose tablets turned off only to turn on and be stuck at the google logo with so far zero solution for fixing it other than a hardware replacement. My tablet was at ASUS's repair factory for almost a month and had the motherboard replaced. This was after a "successful" OTA update to 5.0.1 that worked for a few days and then died. This has happened more than just infrequently to many members on here recently.
So what I would like to know is is anyone experienced the same "successful update" and then a few days later a dead tablet via factory image flashingof 5.0+. We already know that taking the OTA to 5.0+ might be a problem, and before I flash up to 5.0.2 I'd like to hear if anyone did a manual factory image flash and still had the die a few days later issue, despite not going via OTA.
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I don't understand the obstinance regarding official LP flashing. OTA has been pulled from the shelf, lots have killed their devices with it, so it's obvious something seriously wrong is going on. I've been flashing CM and other custom roms derived from LP without problems. Why insist on incantations? This is not the first time Asus screws up with its firmwares! LP ain't nothing special that's worth it.
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I don't understand the obstinance regarding official LP flashing. OTA has been pulled from the shelf, lots have killed their devices with it, so it's obvious something seriously wrong is going on. I've been flashing CM and other custom roms derived from LP without problems. Why insist on incantations? This is not the first time Asus screws up with its firmwares! LP ain't nothing special that's worth it.
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So you are saying LP Roms/factory images should be just fine, provided they don't go OTA? I'm sure most are, my concern is if anyone has experienced a failure hours/days after flashing to LP
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So you are saying LP Roms/factory images should be just fine, provided they don't go OTA? I'm sure most are, my concern is if anyone has experienced a failure hours/days after flashing to LP
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Given previous experiences with Asus JB on another model, I'd avoid anything "official" like the plague, and wait till major bugs are swatted. Clearly, I'm not saying "LP Roms/factory images should be just fine." But I've been flashing custom roms based off LP, and nothing out of the ordinary has happened. They work fine. What I don't get is people would insist on flashing the crappy OTAs Asus has been putting out in the face of so much bricking.
Asus doesn't put out updates for the N7; Google does.
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Asus doesn't put out updates for the N7; Google does.
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I don't see the difference. Just because Google funded and marketed the device doesn't make it less Asus. An Asus is an Asus is an Asus, whether you buy it at Staples or in China. I seriously doubt the firmwares are 100% (or 10% for that matter) Google unless one can prove to the world otherwise.
I haven't bricked mine, and I manually updated using the 5.0.1 (and then 5.0.2) image on Google's site. However, I also have an unlocked boot loader (It was unlocked about an hour after we got it home, and hasn't been locked since) and modified /system partition. I have always manually updated the software images from fastboot.
You're saying Asus makes aosp? No. Google makes the software for nexus devices.
Asus assembled the hardware. Google makes the software (aside from proprietary drivers, of which Asus made only audio and "sensors").
Asus has very little to do with the n7 aside from the fact that they put it together.
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I haven't bricked mine, and I manually updated using the 5.0.1 (and then 5.0.2) image on Google's site. However, I also have an unlocked boot loader (It was unlocked about an hour after we got it home, and hasn't been locked since) and modified /system partition. I have always manually updated the software images from fastboot.
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Mine will remain unlocked from now on. I took it from 4.4.2 back to 4.4.4 (since after repair it was back to original and wiped) via fastboot, and will probably wait awhile longer to update it via fastboot to 5.0.2. No more OTA for me though.
I have tried to update my chinese XT1635-03 to 7.1.1 with OTA through ADB sideload and unfortunately it is not working.
I have sucessfully flashed the phone with reteu latest firmware with April security patch (ADDISON_NPNS25.137-24-1-9_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml) through fastboot.
But once I try to sideload 7.1.1 OTA (Blur_Version.26.1.22.addison.retail.en.US) the process terminates at 47% with notification that the package expects product name "addison" but actual value is "addison_retcn"
Is it possible to either change the product name or disable such check of product name? It seems to me, that at the moment there is no way to flash OTA and I need to wait for full 7.1.1 image.
Reading similar questions around, I have to ask. Why you people cannot wait couple of weeks to get OTA? Instead of risking to brick your device?
New update is not bringing revolutionary/awesome/amazing/mind blowing... new features. I understand if it's update to completely new Android version or that your device/region will not get update at all.
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You have XT1635-03 and the update is for XT1635-02. So if you have a reteu phone you can really update over sideload without issues. And yes, I need android 7.1.1 and I wouldn't wait one day longer. I need app-shortcuts, because I had this on my old phone, too. There was android 7.1 since the first day. But if you don't have it before you can't miss it. So you can wait much easier For me it was important for other issues, too. For example Wifi problems and stability fixes and over 100 security fixes. Many reasons for the update
Edit: And one more reason for the update: To help google to get more than 0.6% for android 7.1 We should update all, otherwise android 7.1 will never get 1%
Everybody should help to get this 1% maybe next month. So update, just do it for the 1%, yes xD
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The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.
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The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.
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The point is, how can you change the channel...
freeman_g said:
The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.
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OK, makes sense for you but for many/most others is just matter of time.
I'm not blaming anyone. Do whatever you want with your phone, just be ready if something goes wrong
The surprise was a different phone name. Different channel is usually not a problem
freeman_g said:
The surprise was a different phone name. Different channel is usually not a problem
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Flash a custom ROM, I have been warning people not to flash ota's cause eventually your going to end up hard bricked.
There's no possible way safely to change your channel.
Stock firmware that is an ota always has checks during the flashing process, which prevents bricking devices.
I always suggest if your running stock firmware on moto devices then remain on your firmware that is specifically designed for your channel.
If you want the latest that android offers, custom ROMs are your best bet.
I have had many moto devices and almost every brick was so idiot that flashed Firmware and bootloaders and accepted an ota and bam HARD BRICKED
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Flash a custom ROM, I have been warning people not to flash ota's cause eventually your going to end up hard bricked.
There's no possible way safely to change your channel.
Stock firmware that is an ota always has checks during the flashing process, which prevents bricking devices.
I always suggest if your running stock firmware on moto devices then remain on your firmware that is specifically designed for your channel.
If you want the latest that android offers, custom ROMs are your best bet.
I have had many moto devices and almost every brick was so idiot that flashed Firmware and bootloaders and accepted an ota and bam HARD BRICKED
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Oh no, can't go back. What can I do now? But all is working. Can it be that my reteu phone will be bricked after next OTA?
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Oh no, can't go back. What can I do now? But all is working. Can it be that my reteu phone will be bricked after next OTA?
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I have no idea
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Is it ever happend?
But is the US-version not always the same as the EU-version? The only difference is over which channel it comes.
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Is it ever happend?
But is the US-version not always the same as the EU-version? The only difference is over which channel it comes.
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If you are not 100% bone stock and unmodified, there is always some risk when accepting an OTA carrier update. On any device. Some the risks are bigger than others. Moto seems to be fairly high risk in this regard.
If you want OTAs, and you want to be safe, don't modify anything. If you insist on mods (which I usually do, but not yet on MZP) then always update via a manual method, never accept an OTA.
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If you are not 100% bone stock and unmodified, there is always some risk when accepting an OTA carrier update. On any device. Some the risks are bigger than others. Moto seems to be fairly high risk in this regard.
If you want OTAs, and you want to be safe, don't modify anything. If you insist on mods (which I usually do, but not yet on MZP) then always update via a manual method, never accept an OTA.
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I have all 100% stock. And all is working after update. Seems there is really no difference between US and EU channel. Can't find any changes. So OTA should work in future. But sure, there are channel with differences, for example the chinese version is not the same.
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I have all 100% stock. And all is working after update. Seems there is really no difference between US and EU channel. Can't find any changes. So OTA should work in future. But sure, there are channel with differences, for example the chinese version is not the same.
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If you sideloaded an update, you are no longer 100% bone stock. Welcome to beta tester land.
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If you sideloaded an update, you are no longer 100% bone stock. Welcome to beta tester land.
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It feels not like a beta. It's more like a big bug fix with much patches. For example my Wifi is now stable as hell and never reconnections anymore. Hope it keeps stable, but looks very very good. I think this beta will be the final release in few months, or weeks? But it's much better than 7.0. And better than LOS14.1, which is not so stable (on my other phone). And I have no app crashes anymore. Gboard was crashing with 7.0 one time and few other apps like firewall. So, 7.1.1 is pure stable as hell and must have :laugh:
Afaik, it's not beta. It's soak. So, if test users reported as stable, it will be pushed to all as the final build. If not, Moto has to fixed and not all users around the world will be affected.
Regular and recommend way of releasing update.
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Here you can see that it's not test-keys like a nightly from LOS. It's really release keys :laugh:
If you are on XT1635-03 with reteu frmware you will not receice any OTA. My experience told that you can't even sideload an update. So no worry about bricks.
Very often devices are hardbricked when you are downgrading bootloader but once I have hardbricked my Nexus 6 with OTA (sideloading it). Well, it was not full brick, but I can't load the system (only fastboot) and my bootloader was locked. Without system loaded you can't allow unlocking procedure so the first thing I do with new phone is unlocking.
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Here you can see that it's not test-keys like a nightly from LOS. It's really release keys :laugh:
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I know the build is not a beta. I'm referring to the fact that once you leave the official upgrade path, taking any update is a scenario not tested by Moto. So you are testing for them. Maybe you win, maybe you brick.
It seems that the problem with "addison_retcn" may be fixed with editing build.prop but in this case systemless root is required (AFAIK there us no systemless root for Nougat)
hi i need the OTA zip file for the Moto Z Play because i used to have free unlimited wifi hotspot until i updated the phone,
I already have the Android 7.1.1 update but things keep crashing all the time, is it posible for me to downgrade the os?
the phone is unlocked
model : XT1635-02
Below is the method I know of but it seems people have had issues after upgrading to 7.1.1 so you may not be able to down grade at this moment.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/autoscript-install-firmware-downgrade-t3558118
I will advise you that it is a bad idea to downgrade. After the April 7.0 patch, downgrading to Marshmallow and OTAing back to Nougat will result in a hard brick, which cannot be repaired without the necessary blank flash files, which are not available.
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I will advise you that it is a bad idea to downgrade. After the April 7.0 patch, downgrading to Marshmallow and OTAing back to Nougat will result in a hard brick, which cannot be repaired without the necessary blank flash files, which are not available.
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I've read about this issue. So basically only for those who had the April 7.0 patch on their Moto Z play will hard brick the device? When they downgrade and update? I've downgraded plenty of times, but decided not to OTA back to nougat.. Now I'm worried if I accidently OTA to Nougat will my phone get hard bricked?
Dchoi229 said:
I've read about this issue. So basically only for those who had the April 7.0 patch on their Moto Z play will hard brick the device? When they downgrade and update? I've downgraded plenty of times, but decided not to OTA back to nougat.. Now I'm worried if I accidently OTA to Nougat will my phone get hard bricked?
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According to a user here, the brick happens when you install the April security update, downgrade to Marshmallow, then OTA back to Nougat, typically bricking on the first, initial update to Nougat. I've downgraded from the January patch once back to Marshmallow, then OTA'd to Nougat + February, then N + March whenever my carrier released it without any issues. I have not received the April patch yet though, but I think you're good.
Awesome. I think it's time to stop flashing roms now lmao.. I dont wanna brick my phone.
Dchoi229 said:
Awesome. I think it's time to stop flashing roms now lmao.. I dont wanna brick my phone.
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I just got the April patch today, and it has not bricked my phone, so if you've never installed that update, you should be okay to OTA.
ok, im confused, I want to downgrade from nougat 7.1.1 to android mm 6.0 with adb, my phone is not rooted i just want to downgrade normally to have hotspot again
robertriverabula said:
ok, im confused, I want to downgrade from nougat 7.1.1 to android mm 6.0 with adb, my phone is not rooted i just want to downgrade normally to have hotspot again
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you can't downgrade unless you unlock the bootloader, and are ok with potentially turning your phone into a brick.
robertriverabula said:
ok, im confused, I want to downgrade from nougat 7.1.1 to android mm 6.0 with adb, my phone is not rooted i just want to downgrade normally to have hotspot again
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Ah, I finally find out that I am not the only one with hotspot issue on 7.1.1. But 7.1.1 is so good that I am not going to downgrade only for the hotspot issue. I will wait for the Official 7.1.1 release to fix that issue.
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I just got the April patch today, and it has not bricked my phone, so if you've never installed that update, you should be okay to OTA.
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Great. I've heard that the reason for why people are bricking their phone is because of the updated bootloader? The April patch updates the BL to C1.07 and mine right now is 1.05. Do you think I can flash the Xenon HD rom (7.1.1) and if for some reason i want to downgrade again i wont brick my phone?
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Great. I've heard that the reason for why people are bricking their phone is because of the updated bootloader? The April patch updates the BL to C1.07 and mine right now is 1.05. Do you think I can flash the Xenon HD rom (7.1.1) and if for some reason i want to downgrade again i wont brick my phone?
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Hi just wondering what is the security patch you have? I mean you have c1.05 is it MM?
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Hi just wondering what is the security patch you have? I mean you have c1.05 is it MM?
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dont get confused. I never downloaded the april security patch. my bootloader version is c1.05 which i believe is the feb patch. the april patch is c1.07. If you downloaded the April patch and downgraded do not try to install the ota. it will brick your phone.
What's the reason for hard brick ?
When downgrading then receiving OTA Update .
Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
Mine isn't showing the update yet. I've got the TA-1068. Not unlocked or anything.
It is possible someone jumped the gun, releasing it too early, and they pulled it so can't download it.
Not yet available on my nokia 6.1. I think we are a couple of weeks away from the update.
Ozonethegreat said:
Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
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Which TA....?
Ozonethegreat said:
Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
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What security update level of android 8.1 are you on?
Good luck getting 100% back to stock.
I have a TA-1045 and I unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk on the July patch of android 8.1. I get update prompts for the August security update, but the update won't install. I tried completely removing Magisk, but it stills fails with "Installation Failed". I don't think anyone has a stock recovery image (at least for TA-1045) to restore
At this point if you flash twrp/magisk you have no way of restoring to stock and accepting OTA updates. You will be stuck on the update you are on until someone figures out a way to take OTA updates or someone gets a hold of stock firmware images for your device (none yet for TA-1045)
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Which TA....?
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TA-1045
prg318 said:
What security update level of android 8.1 are you on?
Good luck getting 100% back to stock.
I have a TA-1045 and I unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk on the July patch of android 8.1. I get update prompts for the August security update, but the update won't install. I tried completely removing Magisk, but it stills fails with "Installation Failed". I don't think anyone has a stock recovery image (at least for TA-1045) to restore
At this point if you flash twrp/magisk you have no way of restoring to stock and accepting OTA updates. You will be stuck on the update you are on until someone figures out a way to take OTA updates or someone gets a hold of stock firmware images for your device (none yet for TA-1045)
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I'm on the June 1st level
prg318 said:
What security update level of android 8.1 are you on?
Good luck getting 100% back to stock.
I have a TA-1045 and I unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk on the July patch of android 8.1. I get update prompts for the August security update, but the update won't install. I tried completely removing Magisk, but it stills fails with "Installation Failed". I don't think anyone has a stock recovery image (at least for TA-1045) to restore
At this point if you flash twrp/magisk you have no way of restoring to stock and accepting OTA updates. You will be stuck on the update you are on until someone figures out a way to take OTA updates or someone gets a hold of stock firmware images for your device (none yet for TA-1045)
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I've was able to get back to stock recovery, system and vendor using the 1043 images and my phone still shows as a 1045. So even if removing magisk, it fails, cause I'm getting the installation failed as well. I'm curious if removing magisk and relocking the bootloader will help?
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Mine isn't showing the update yet. I've got the TA-1068. Not unlocked or anything.
It is possible someone jumped the gun, releasing it too early, and they pulled it so can't download it.
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That makes sense cause I keep getting installation failure and not sure if it even downloaded.
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I've was able to get back to stock recovery, system and vendor using the 1043 images and my phone still shows as a 1045. So even if removing magisk, it fails, cause I'm getting the installation failed as well. I'm curious if removing magisk and relocking the bootloader will help?
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Since earlier today, I was able to flash my phone with the WW images and my phone still shows up as TA-1045, radio works and everything. The Pie update isn't showing up for me yet, but I was able to update to the august update this way
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Since earlier today, I was able to flash my phone with the WW images and my phone still shows up as TA-1045, radio works and everything. The Pie update isn't showing up for me yet, but I was able to update to the august update this way
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Are the WW images the chinese version I seen floating around here? If not, where did you get them?
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Are the WW images the chinese version I seen floating around here? If not, where did you get them?
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Nope - don't think its Chinse - it appears to be a "global" or international version. I don't really notice a difference from my original stock.
I got it from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-to-flash-global-firmware-pl2-222e-0-t3831764
And was able to flash the "extracted version" with fastboot. I used some fastboot instructions that I found for a chinese rom and changed the filenames to match the worldwide filenames and it worked without the OST tool
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That makes sense cause I keep getting installation failure and not sure if it even downloaded.
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Can you locate the downloaded OTA and post it here?
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Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
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Were you able to update to Android pie?
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Were you able to update to Android pie?
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No I have not been able to. I don't even know where to look to see if the OTA even downloaded...
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Soooo.....I just bought this phone, unlocked the bootloader and installed Magisk.
Today, I got a system update notification saying Android Pie is ready to download.
Anybody else getting this and if so, I have to go back to 100% stock in order to upgrade right? Then unlock BL again?
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Can you check under system partition and look for Data/OTA
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No I have not been able to. I don't even know where to look to see if the OTA even downloaded...
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Check system partition under data/ota.
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No I have not been able to. I don't even know where to look to see if the OTA even downloaded...
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You should have pulled the OTA link from a logcat so the rest of us can download the update files and upgrade ourselves :/
I guess this OTA is a fake. No one with a Nokia 6.1 has reported getting an Android Pie notification. It's super rare that just one single person will get it.
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I guess this OTA is a fake. No one with a Nokia 6.1 has reported getting an Android Pie notification. It's super rare that just one single person will get it.
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This. Unless OP is an insider and just dun goof'd, then I fail to see this as legit.
Slightly off-topic:
I was on the June security patch on my 6.1 until yesterday. I received an OTA notification while half asleep and got all excited thinking it was the Pie update, but no, it was the July security patch. What's interesting is that immediately after installing I received the notification for the August security patch, and promptly installed that. May just be me being lucky, but that almost imples that HMD are trying to push out the latest security updates to devices as a way of preparing for Pie maybe?
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This. Unless OP is an insider and just dun goof'd, then I fail to see this as legit.
Slightly off-topic:
I was on the June security patch on my 6.1 until yesterday. I received an OTA notification while half asleep and got all excited thinking it was the Pie update, but no, it was the July security patch. What's interesting is that immediately after installing I received the notification for the August security patch, and promptly installed that. May just be me being lucky, but that almost imples that HMD are trying to push out the latest security updates to devices as a way of preparing for Pie maybe?
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I got the July update in July and then I got the August update on August. I don't know why yours took a while to update. Mine and other that I know, get the update for the month the same month.
Question related to "After updating, you will not be able to downgrade..." message
Hope you guys are safe and well.
Currently my A50 on August update. I have no problems with this update but I like to update to Android 10 for additional features. I'm reluctant to update because of this message. I'm afraid that if I had problems or something wrong with the new update, I won't be able to go downgrade to August update.
So, Is it really impossible to downgrade using Odin with an official firmware?
I'm coming from iOS and hence the fear of updating. As you may know, iOS downgrade is impossible when Apple sign-out the old software.
Thanks in advance.
Most major OS updates (i.e. from Android 9 to 10) also update the 'bootloader', which is a little piece of software that initializes your device, and runs before the system can even start (when you turn your phone on).
Once the bootloader is updated, it's often impossible and certainly not recommended to downgrade the OS, since you may permanently brick your device.
If Android 10 is out for your device model (eg. A505G in my case), just go ahead and update. I don't have any issues with it whatsoever, in fact it has fixed quite a few bugs (wifi connection would frequently drop for me in Pie with February/March updates, and now it doesn't anymore).
Greetings.
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Most major OS updates (i.e. from Android 9 to 10) also update the 'bootloader', which is a little piece of software that initializes your device, and runs before the system can even start (when you turn your phone on).
Once the bootloader is updated, it's often impossible and certainly not recommended to downgrade the OS, since you may permanently brick your device.
If Android 10 is out for your device model (eg. A505G in my case), just go ahead and update. I don't have any issues with it whatsoever, in fact it has fixed quite a few bugs (wifi connection would frequently drop for me in Pie with February/March updates, and now it doesn't anymore).
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But can't I backup the boot loader too? Also, I heard that the official firmware includes the boot loader and therefore I won't have problems downgrading. I'm confused.
Screen not responding after update
Hi. I updated to the new Android 10 which my phone prompt me to install. But after updating, my screen is not responding anymore. I already tried to restart and factory reset. What can i do regarding this? Thank you very much!
sheidyly said:
Hi. I updated to the new Android 10 which my phone prompt me to install. But after updating, my screen is not responding anymore. I already tried to restart and factory reset. What can i do regarding this? Thank you very much!
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Try to flash the ROM manually using ODIN
redymedan said:
Try to flash the ROM manually using ODIN
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I'm sorry but I'm new to all of this and I seem to read some comments saying the phone was bricked after flashing.
And if I will try flashing, do I use the old firmware or the new one?
Thank you so much!
mistpsn said:
But can't I backup the boot loader too? Also, I heard that the official firmware includes the boot loader and therefore I won't have problems downgrading. I'm confused.
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I think... and I could be completely wrong, but it keeps track of the highest version of bootloader you installed. So it will not allow you to boot if you flash the older one. However, I am not sure how it behaves if the bootloader is unlocked.
If anyone have the same concerns I had. I found out that only security updates seems to have this message and risk bricking your phone in case you downgrade to lower version. Some people confirms that they were able to downgrade without any problems from android 10 to android 9 on their A50.
It also made sense that there are no problems since the warning message only included with security updates. The android 10 Update change list have no warnings related to downgrading to older versions.
March security update had the warning message. And I had to do the security upgrade before the android 10 update was available OTA.