Greetings everyone!
This is my first post, so go easy on me .
I will be purchasing Xperia Z1 soon, so I did a bit of a research on the phone. To my disappointment, Sony puts an ASF (Anti Shatter Film) on the front and back sides of the phone. This film is NOT scratch resistant, so - as some people claim - a few weeks old phones already have some scratches (and this is with normal use). It can be removed, but it voids the warranty (I've read that this is only a screen warranty, but this needs to be confirmed). As a side note, you will also lose the Sony logo from the front as it is on the ASF (logo at the back of the phone is baked into the glass, though).
Additional info about ASF removal:
It is most probable that removing the ASF will void the warranty of the display but not the rest of the device.
akselic said:
Hi everyone.
I asked Sony for a clear explanation on the ASF and the warranty concerns that we have. I tried looking through but couldn't see if anoyne else got an official reply from them but here's what they told me in an email:
The purpose of the anti-shatter film (ASF) is to make the display on your Sony Xperia Z1 withstand being dropped from greater heights. The anti-shatter film has a positive effect on the sensitivity and accuracy of the touch screen. In the unlikely event of the glass cracking, the ASF can protect against cuts. If you peel off the ASF, the display loses its anti-shatter characteristics.
Removal of the ASF itself doesn´t void the warranty of the device. However, any physical or cosmetic damages to the display where the ASF is removed will void the warranty.
The ASF is unfortunately not scratch resistant, therefore it is not replaced within the warranty if it gets scratches. We advice you to apply a scratch resistant display cover on top of the ASF to protect it from scratches.
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For us as customers the key point is that our Z1 is still protected by the warranty after removing the ASF as long as we don't claim cosmetic or physical damage on the display that we have removed the film from. It might be a nice idea to add this in the OP as this is what their support department told me and it's how they treat the warranty regarding the ASF.
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Info updated, courtesy of akselic (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47618032&postcount=42)
A WORD OF ADVICE:
In case you are planning to remove ASF, it is suggested to obtain such information yourself, as this statement from Sony official, might not be respected in a country you live in. Receiving a confirmation from a representative of the customer support yourself, will get your ass covered under most circumstances.
There are four options:
Get used to the scratches on your new phone (yeah, right)
Buy a scratch resistant film
Buy a tempered glass protector
Buy a liquid screen protector
None of these options are perfect. Here is why:
Self Explanatory, unleass you are a fan of a weathered look
The films, while getting more and more advanced, are still a piece of plastic, and will never look and feel like a premium glass surface. Additionally, they wear out in time and need to be replaced. On the plus side, they provide a good scratch protection (and shatter protection if anyone cares about this), with almost no added thickness to the phone.
Tempered Glass protectors feel as the true surface of the phone - this means a lot for a device that is "felt" with your fingers 90% of the time. They do not wear as quickly as the film, but they can crack if hit hard enough. However they will typically take the blow themselves thus saving your screen. Unfortunately they add to the thickness of the phone (typically between 0,2 - 0,4 mm which is 0,008" - 0,016"). Also, there will be a problem obtaining a Glass protector for the back of your Z1.
I have not analyzed this subject thoroughly, as my thread will be about the Tempered Glass protectors. However, I think it's still worth mentioning. I don't know if the three product I've found have the same properties, but it seems that it involves Sapphire (which is 9H on the Mohs Scale) applied as a liquid through a nano technology. I don't know much about it, so I will not list the pros and cons.
Here are the liquids I've found:
Dynaflow Liquid Armour Screen Protector
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=xdadevelopers-21
Crystalusion Liquid Glass Screen Protector
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/crystalusion-liquid-glass-screen-protection-p39834.htm
Nanostate Liquid Sapphire
http://www.nanostate.co/scratch-proof-screen/
I you are anything like me, you're probably striving to retain this premium glass feel of the Xperia Z1. Therefore, only options 3 and 4 are valid for you. Unfortunately - even if liquid protection works as advertised, it can be applied only to a glass surface (or so I have been told). What it means, is you would have to get rid of ASF, and lose the warranty. This leaves us with option 3 - The Tempered Glass protector.
I've looked around the internet and it seems, that - although the problem with Z1's ASF is prevalent - the information about eligible glass protectors is somewhat scattered. Some of the most useful info I've found in these forums, and that is why I've decided to put my findings here.
I have not tested the products below (which is understandable, since I don't have the Z1 yet), so I'm counting on you guys, to provide some insight. For me and anyone who might be interested in buying one.
I've put all the info I could find on these glass protectors, but something might be inaccurate (e.g. a product looks different on two different photos). If editing posts is possible on these forums, I will update my list with the data you provide. Please provide the source if you want me to update the info.
Products are listed alphabetically. The price is the lowest I could find. The exchange rates are from 2013-11-09. All manufacturers claim that their product was designed for Xperia Z1.
ARMORZ
Link: http://www.armorz.com/en/products/Films/Sony/Xperia-Z1/l105
Price: 34.95 / 44,95 USD (approx. 25,80 / 33,19 EUR) depending on chosen variant
Thickness: 0,2 mm / 0,4 mm (0.008" / 0,016") depending on chosen variant
Strength: 8 / 9H depending on chosen variant
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: No
Comment: There are 2 variants of the phone: Stealth Extreme Light and Stealth Extreme R. The 'Light' version is thinner and cheaper, but has lower strength.
Info updated, courtesy of reventon_703 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48061956&postcount=83)
Brando
Link: http://shop.brando.com/Brando-Works...-Edition-Sony-Xperia-Z1-_p10088c1626d008.html
Price: 27.00 USD (approx. 20,20 EUR)
Thickness: 0,3 mm (0,012")
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: No
Comment: The version I've found has rounded edges which I feel, will not fit the Z1 perfectly. There was a version with regular edges, but it is no longer available. The thickness is not provided by the manufacturer.
Info updated, courtesy of JuicyBrah (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47294372&postcount=3)
Clarivue
Link: http://www.clarivue.com/sony-c6903-xperia-z1-xt-tempered-glass-screen-protector-cover
Price: 34.99 USD (approx. 26,18 EUR)
Thickness: 0,3 mm (0,012")
Strength: 9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: ?
Sensor hole: ?
Back glass: No
Comment: The existance of camera and sensor holes cannot be confirmed nor denied by the photos. The holes are not mentioned in the description of the product.
Crystal Armor
Link: http://www.crystal-armor.com
Price: 3675 - 6300 YEN (approx 36.75 USD / 27,12 EUR - 63.00 USD / 46,49 EUR) - depending on chosen variant
Thickness: 0,2 mm (0.008") / 0,33 mm (0.013") - depending on chosen variant
Strength: 9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes/No - depending on chosen variant
Back glass: Yes
Back camera hole: Yes
Comment: There are 4 variants of Tempered Glass protectors for Z1 from this manufacturer:
1) Front 0,33 mm (0.013") thick
2) Back 0,33 mm (0.013") thick
3) Front+Back 0,33 mm (0.013") thick.
4) Front 0,2 mm (0.008") thick (no sensor hole!)
This is currently (as of 2013-11-20) the only confirmed manufacturer that provides a Tempered Glass protectors for the back of Z1. Also 4th variant (Front; 0,2 mm thick) is the only known glass protector that doesn't have a sensor cutout.
Info updated, courtesy of reventon_703 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47566993&postcount=40), (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47641330&postcount=46)
Info updated, courtesy of 1337rice (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48354033&postcount=110)
Glass-M
Link: http://theglass-m.com/products/glass-m-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z1
Price: 16.00 USD (approx. 12,71 EUR)
Thickness: 0,2 mm (0,008")
Strength: 9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: TBA
Comment: The existance of camera and sensor holes cannot be confirmed nor denied by the photos. The holes are not mentioned in the description of the product. I have contacted the manufacturer to obtain this data. The protective glass for the back of the Z1 is rumored to be released (Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46677343&postcount=1)
Info updated, courtesy of snetwork (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47318656&postcount=11)
Huizhou City Junsi Electronics Co., Ltd.
Link: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Generic-Tem...d glass screen protector&tag=xdadevelopers-21
Price: 20.64 USD (approx. 15,24 EUR) - this is for Front + Back tempered glass protectors
Thickness: ?
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: Yes*
Sensor hole: No*
Back glass: Yes
Comment: I couldn't find a manufacturer shop or website. Please provide info if you can. Clarity of the glass is 98%+**
* - judging solely by the photos (no info provided by the manufacturer). Confirmation needed.
** - confirmation needed
Info updated, courtesy of TheCraig (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47779512&postcount=59)
Kawin (Shenzhen Kawin Optical Materials)
Link: http://www.kawintape.com/product/html/?67.html
Price: ?
Thickness: 0,4 mm (0,016")
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: ?
Sensor hole: ?
Back glass: No
Comment: I couldn't find a place to buy it. The existance of camera and sensor holes cannot be confirmed nor denied by the photos. The holes are not mentioned in the description of the product.
Muvit
Link: http://mymuvit.net/muvit/control/pr...593EC6674B3864D6C486.jvm1?productId=SESCP0013
Price: 18,90 EUR (approx. 25.26 USD)
Thickness: ?
Strength: 8H
Oleophobic coating: No
Front camera hole: Yes
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: No
Comment: The thickness is not provided by the manufacturer. There is a hole in the glass for the camera which in my opinion should not be exposed.
Nillkin
Link: http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=13&id=3638&page=1
Price: 15.89 USD (approx. 11,89 EUR)
Thickness: 0,3 mm (0,012")
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No
Sensor hole: Yes
Back glass: No
Comment: Nillkin provides a back protection, but it is a plastic film (Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47128312&postcount=24). The size of the Nillkin glass protector is smaller than the actual screen of Xperia Z1 by ~1 mm in height and ~1 mm in width (so it is ~0,5 mm from each side).
Info updated, courtesy of ksoze (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47298655&postcount=8)
Info updated, courtesy of Shem2409 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47521338&postcount=34)
Spigen
Link: http://www.spigen.co.jp/goods_detail.html?input_goods_id=355
Price: 3765 YEN (approx. 28,20 EUR, 37.69 USD)
Thickness: 0,4 mm (0,016")
Strength: 9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No*
Sensor hole: Yes*
Back glass: No
Comment: Oddly, this product is available only in Japan.
* - judging solely by the photos (no info provided by the manufacturer). Confirmation needed.
I hope you will find this post useful. If you have anything to add (a new manufacturer/data/clarification/etc.) please do not hesitate.
DISCLAIMER
I am not affiliated with any of these manufacturers.
RELATED THREADS
Front and Back Tempered Glass
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2492878
Screen protection for those who removes Shatter proof film
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2450040
Temprered Glass Screen Protectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2461000
Xperia z1 screen protectors
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439124
Guide: Perfect Screen Protector Installation Technique
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1015394
UPDATES
2013-11-10, 7:22pm
Updated Brando and Nillkin
2013-11-10, 9:59pm
Updated Glass-M
Added Updates section
Small font adjustments
Got rid of the typos
Corrected wording
2013-11-13, 11:57am
Corrected Nillkin spelling
2013-11-20, 2:18am
Added information about Nillkin size in relation to Z1 screen
Added Crystal Armor to the list
Added information about ASF removal
2013-11-26, 2:17am
Added additional info about ASF removal. Rephrased a disclaimer
Added Huizhou City Junsi Electronics Co., Ltd. to the list
Corrected information about Crystal Armor
Removed redundant info about not finding any tempered glass back covers
2013-12-02, 10:17pm
Added ARMORZ to the list
2013-12-14, 9:07pm
Updated Crystal Armor
2013-12-16, 12:48pm
Added "Guide: Perfect Screen Protector Installation Technique" link to the RELATED THREADS section
Nice thread mate. I bought the Nillkin one a few days ago I will report back with any extra information.
Shander said:
Brando
Link: http://shop.brando.com/Brando-Worksh...c1626d008.html
Price: 27.00 USD (approx. 20,20 EUR)
Thickness: ?
Strength: 8-9H
Oleophobic coating: Yes
Front camera hole: No*
Sensor hole: No*
Back glass: No
Comment: The version I've found has rounded edges which I feel, will not fit the Z1 perfectly. There was a version with regular edges, but it is no longer available. The thickness is not provided by the manufacturer.
* - judging solely by the photos (no info provided by the manufacturer). Confirmation needed.
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Absolutely wrong, I have one on my Z1 And it conforms to the edges of the screen perfectly, it feels amazing to touch as well. There is a cutout for the proximity sensor but not the camera. The thickness is .3mm.
Cases still fit since they hug the bezel and not the screen.
EDIT: I think you may be confused at to what rounded edges means, it does not mean that the corners curve a lot, it simply means that the glass thickness tapers off at all edges so you don't have a layer of glass with sharp edges. A rounded edge screen protector and a non-rounded one will have the exact same fit on a screen, but the one without rounded edges will have a 90 degree angle the edges in the Z-Y or Z-X plane, while the rounded one will have a smooth gradient.
JuicyBrah - did you remove the shatter protector on your screen first?
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JuicyBrah - did you remove the shatter protector on your screen first?
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Yeah I did.
I like that the Sony logo is gone.
Have you tested the waterproofing now that you have? What about the back one?
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Clownzer said:
Have you tested the waterproofing now that you have? What about the back one?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Yeah, I use it in the shower every day. I've left the back one on since I have a case.
JuicyBrah said:
Absolutely wrong, I have one on my Z1 And it conforms to the edges of the screen perfectly, it feels amazing to touch as well. There is a cutout for the proximity sensor but not the camera. The thickness is .
Cases still fit since they hug the bezel and not the screen.
EDIT: I think you may be confused at to what rounded edges means, it does not mean that the corners curve a lot, it simply means that the glass thickness tapers off at all edges so you don't have a layer of glass with sharp edges. A rounded edge screen protector and a non-rounded one will have the exact same fit on a screen, but the one without rounded edges will have a 90 degree angle the edges in the Z-Y or Z-X plane, while the rounded one will have a smooth gradient.
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I can also confirm that the Nillkin does NOT have a cutout for the camera either - only the proximity sensor.
The edges are beveled so that the glass layer feels almost built into the phone. Non beveled glass edges are by no means sharp to the touch, but beveled edges make a huge difference IMO. It gives it a very premium feel to the protector.
JuicyBrah said:
Yeah I did.
I like that the Sony logo is gone.
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Could you upload pictures?
ksoze said:
I can also confirm that the Nillkin does NOT have a cutout for the camera either - only the proximity sensor.
The edges are beveled so that the glass layer feels almost built into the phone. Non beveled glass edges are by no means sharp to the touch, but beveled edges make a huge difference IMO. It gives it a very premium feel to the protector.
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agreed, I had the speigen models that had sharpish edges, very annoying as the glass would slightly scratch my face/ear when trying to talk
adrenalinh12890 said:
Could you upload pictures?
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Sorry for the delayed response, but here you are.
Thank you all for participating in this thread and sharing your knowledge. This is awesome! I just love communities which are so responsive.
shem2409 said:
Nice thread mate. I bought the Nillkin one a few days ago I will report back with any extra information.
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Thanks mate!
JuicyBrah said:
Absolutely wrong, I have one on my Z1 And it conforms to the edges of the screen perfectly, it feels amazing to touch as well. There is a cutout for the proximity sensor but not the camera. The thickness is .3mm.
Cases still fit since they hug the bezel and not the screen.
EDIT: I think you may be confused at to what rounded edges means, it does not mean that the corners curve a lot, it simply means that the glass thickness tapers off at all edges so you don't have a layer of glass with sharp edges. A rounded edge screen protector and a non-rounded one will have the exact same fit on a screen, but the one without rounded edges will have a 90 degree angle the edges in the Z-Y or Z-X plane, while the rounded one will have a smooth gradient.
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I actually based my commentary on the photo, since there is no other reference material (the system is not allowing me to add an outside link - which is odd because I was able to put a bunch of links in my opening post - but the photo can be seen on Brando's website). Thank you very much for this clarification. I've already updated my first post to reflect the data you've provided.
JuicyBrah said:
Yeah I did.
I like that the Sony logo is gone.
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Removing ASF is actually a very interesting topic. I think I'll add a poll to see if people remove their ASF before applying the glass protector.
ksoze said:
I can also confirm that the Nillkin does NOT have a cutout for the camera either - only the proximity sensor.
The edges are beveled so that the glass layer feels almost built into the phone. Non beveled glass edges are by no means sharp to the touch, but beveled edges make a huge difference IMO. It gives it a very premium feel to the protector.
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Thanks! Info about Nilkin updated.
danw_oz said:
agreed, I had the speigen models that had sharpish edges, very annoying as the glass would slightly scratch my face/ear when trying to talk
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I know that the Spigen I've found is sold in Japan only but perhaps someone can confirm whether they made the edges rounded for the Z1 protector?
snetwork said:
I have got the Glass-M protector for zperia z1. Have outcut for seonsor. So far is good.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Thank you! Info about Glass-M updated. Could you post a picture with Glass-M on your phone?
JuicyBrah said:
Sorry for the delayed response, but here you are.
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Looks interesting without the logo. How is the viewing angle since the ASF was removed?
adrenalinh12890 said:
Looks interesting without the logo. How is the viewing angle since the ASF was removed?
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I don't see any noticeable difference, but the glare is Mitch lower now and direct sunlight looks a lot better.
JuicyBrah said:
I don't see any noticeable difference, but the glare is Mitch lower now and direct sunlight looks a lot better.
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I just installed my nillkin today and it made me very happy. I removed the ASF also. The screen is now much more clearer, smoother, and the colors are more vivid. With the Sony logo being removed, I feel the phone looks sleeker and incognito-ish. I have read brando is thinner but I have yet to try it.
adrenalinh12890 said:
I just installed my nillkin today and it made me very happy. I removed the ASF also. The screen is now much more clearer, smoother, and the colors are more vivid. With the Sony logo being removed, I feel the phone looks sleeker and incognito-ish.
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This is actually quite valuable, although JuicyBrah said that he doesn't see any noticeable difference (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47378880&postcount=15). If what you're saying is true, you've just convinced me to remove my ASF
adrenalinh12890 said:
I have read brando is thinner but I have yet to try it.
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According to the info again provided by JuicyBrah (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47294372&postcount=3), Brando is 0,3 mm, so it's the same as Nillkin. The thinnest I could find is Glass-M (0,2 mm).
adrenalinh12890 said:
I just installed my nillkin today and it made me very happy. I removed the ASF also. The screen is now much more clearer, smoother, and the colors are more vivid. With the Sony logo being removed, I feel the phone looks sleeker and incognito-ish. I have read brando is thinner but I have yet to try it.
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How did you remove the ASF? was it hard? I have glass-m did you put it straight on or wipe screen?:fingers-crossed:
dazza7111 said:
How did you remove the ASF? was it hard? I have glass-m did you put it straight on or wipe screen?:fingers-crossed:
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Removing the ASF was easy. I used an X acto knife to start peeling off at a corner. Once it is gripable, you can peel it yourself from there. After that, I washed the screen with soap and hot water since it is waterproofed. :fingers-crossed: Then, I immediately apply the screen after it dried off.
asf warranty
To all who removed their asf, aren't you worried about the warranty? Especially with all the reboot/shutdown and other random problems this phone has? People have been able to get their unit exchanged for a new one because of those issues, but without the asf what are the chances it would be replaced?
andd64 said:
To all who removed their asf, aren't you worried about the warranty? Especially with all the reboot/shutdown and other random problems this phone has? People have been able to get their unit exchanged for a new one because of those issues, but without the asf what are the chances it would be replaced?
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I've found two posts regarding this problem:
gregbradley said:
Removing the factory fitted screen protector does not void Warrenty.
I removed mine on my Xperia T, then several months later the screen cracked after it dropped several metres and I got a replacement free of charge with no question asked about the lack of screen protector
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46243374&postcount=26
OfficerTux said:
I emailed the German Sony Support regarding the Shatterproof Protector and the warranty. According to them, if you remove it you will loose the warranty for mechanical and cosmetic defects of the screen, not for the entire phone.
I also asked whether one could buy a genuine replacement of the protector, but that is not possible at the moment.
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Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46763629&postcount=33
I'm guessing this might be related to the country you live in. Different consumer rights may apply. I believe it would be the best if you'd contact them directly about this.
The camera design is horrible on Le Pro 3. It is prone to scratches and damage. Even with a cover on the camera lens still touch the base.
What can I do to avoid this?
Chattersking said:
The camera design is horrible on Le Pro 3. It is prone to scratches and damage. Even with a cover on the camera lens still touch the base.
What can I do to avoid this?
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I am using the free protector included in the package and it seem to work pretty solid for more than a month now. Camera has no scratches at all and I am always putting the camera face up. Maybe use a thicker case so that camera would not protrude?
Chattersking said:
The camera design is horrible on Le Pro 3. It is prone to scratches and damage. Even with a cover on the camera lens still touch the base.
What can I do to avoid this?
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Camera design is horrible because its protruding? You mean like 50% of other devices? Lol. Also there is a metal lip around glass, which protrudes more than glass itself, so in theory it should protect against flat surfaces
It's a pretty terrible design and something the size of a grain of sand would protrude enough off of a flat surface higher than the "metal lip" that is supposed to help the glass from being scratched. Unfortunately, this terrible design is pretty common.
Luckily the combination of the camera being complete garbage and me never using phone cameras for anything important means that I could care less. In fact, aside from the occasional emergency use I could do without a camera all together.
A thicker case should help you out though.
rushtest4echo said:
It's a pretty terrible design and something the size of a grain of sand would protrude enough off of a flat surface higher than the "metal lip" that is supposed to help the glass from being scratched. Unfortunately, this terrible design is pretty common.
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Chattersking said:
The camera design is horrible on Le Pro 3. It is prone to scratches and damage. Even with a cover on the camera lens still touch the base.
What can I do to avoid this?
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I don't like it either, but unfortunately this is the trend now with most flagship devices these days. I have gotten myself a pair of these protectors, that is giving me some peace of mind. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2Pc...32759848192.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.0.pQ5Ldh
I have been noticing these reports from people saying that their rear camera glass has been breaking on their own without the phone falling down the ground and having them in really good cases.
Imagine checking your phone out and seeing the camera glass cracked...
Anyone experienced this?
RandomJazz said:
I have been noticing these reports from people saying that their rear camera glass has been breaking on their own without the phone falling down the ground and having them in really good cases.
Imagine checking your phone out and seeing the camera glass cracked...
Anyone experienced this?
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No issue here but i have a tempered glass protector on my lens.
xTheDevilx said:
No issue here but i have a tempered glass protector on my lens.
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I am waiting on a dbrand skin!
RandomJazz said:
I am waiting on a dbrand skin!
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They're nice skins was thinking about getting one but I'm getting a case with a sliding cover so when i don't use the camera it will be protected just by sliding the camera lens cover on the phone case.
xTheDevilx said:
They're nice skins was thinking about getting one but I'm getting a case with a sliding cover so when i don't use the camera it will be protected just by sliding the camera lens cover on the phone case.
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I saw those, really interesting but those dbrand teardown skins look so good. Wanted to give them a shot, so I got those plus a few clear cases to try it out.
RandomJazz said:
I saw those, really interesting but those dbrand teardown skins look so good. Wanted to give them a shot, so I got those plus a few clear cases to try it out.
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Let us know how good they are after hearing about the camera being shattered on there own i didn't want to take that chance at the moment I'm using a Spigen Hybrid Neo Case that i won. But will be replacing it with that case I'm getting for that camera protection but still waiting for it to get delivered.
If you drop your phone, its going to be 50/50 whether you break anything. Just don't drop your phone.
I would recommend a glass protector as the addition of a skin can reduce the brittle effect and absorb a lot of the forces
There are a lot of people also saying the glass broke without them doing anything. TBH I find this VERY hard to believe...
cheetah2k said:
If you drop your phone, its going to be 50/50 whether you break anything. Just don't drop your phone.
I would recommend a glass protector as the addition of a skin can reduce the brittle effect and absorb a lot of the forces
There are a lot of people also saying the glass broke without them doing anything. TBH I find this VERY hard to believe...
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Same here I don't believe it looks like it was intentionally broken the hole where the cracks are look too precise.
I've applied a Spigen GlasR protector on mine. Works perfect, and doesn't introduce an awful haze to photos when using the flash either. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0844KGLZJ/
I've tried one other that advertised itself as being edge to edge but wasn't, and produced horrendous photo quality compared to the Spigen
Seems like a skin over the lens is a real sensible option. You don't have to worry about a glass cover that may affect camera lens clarity and you still get some protection to the overall camera system.
jonboi said:
I've applied a Spigen GlasR protector on mine. Works perfect, and doesn't introduce an awful haze to photos when using the flash either. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0844KGLZJ/
I've tried one other that advertised itself as being edge to edge but wasn't, and produced horrendous photo quality compared to the Spigen
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That looks like a really good lens protector how's the quality of the images when you use that zoom feature? i read on that review that it had issues with it on.
I just read an article on Techspot this morning for the days news. Some are theorizing there is some sort of gas inside the glass and it explodes outwards. If that is the case then no glass protector is gonna help with that problem. The BS part is Samsung saying its cosmetic damage and not covered under the origianl warranty. So that will cost you $400.00 dollars to repair. Or if you have Premium care it will cost $100.00 for the deductable. If it turns out this is a defect they should be fixing it free. I guess time will tell. As of now only a couple dozen have reported it.
https://www.techspot.com/news/85027-owners-find-galaxy-s20-ultra-rear-camera-glass.html
Paul_Deemer said:
I just read an article on Techspot this morning for the days news. Some are theorizing there is some sort of gas inside the glass and it explodes outwards. If that is the case then no glass protector is gonna help with that problem. The BS part is Samsung saying its cosmetic damage and not covered under the origianl warranty. So that will cost you $400.00 dollars to repair. Or if you have Premium care it will cost $100.00 for the deductable. If it turns out this is a defect they should be fixing it free. I guess time will time. As of now only a couple dozen have reported it.
https://www.techspot.com/news/85027-owners-find-galaxy-s20-ultra-rear-camera-glass.html
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The real question is though why would they put gas between the glass? I think it's time manufactures stopped using Gorilla Glass and use Tempered Glass instead.
jonboi said:
I've applied a Spigen GlasR protector on mine. Works perfect, and doesn't introduce an awful haze to photos when using the flash either. https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0844KGLZJ/
I've tried one other that advertised itself as being edge to edge but wasn't, and produced horrendous photo quality compared to the Spigen
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No problem with dust in the holes?
xTheDevilx said:
That looks like a really good lens protector how's the quality of the images when you use that zoom feature? i read on that review that it had issues with it on.
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No problem with dust in the holes?
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No issues with the zoom. I fkd up the install of the first one, went on incorrectly and didn't line up. The second attempt was perfect and holes where they should be. No issues with image quality or pics with flash.
The only hole in the protector is for the mic, and so far has been no issue with dust accumulation, still clean as a whistle.
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No issues with the zoom. I fkd up the install of the first one, went on incorrectly and didn't line up. The second attempt was perfect and holes where they should be. No issues with image quality or pics with flash.
The only hole in the protector is for the mic, and so far has been no issue with dust accumulation, still clean as a whistle.
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I noticed with the one i got from the Bay i get glare from the flash so might end up getting this one eventually.
This is why I rather use a skin or just be careful about how I use the phone/lie it down on surfaces. Because of the glare and other lens issues while trying to snap images. Rather not get anything in the way of the camera lenses.
I got a glass protector but it was really bad. So the skin should be a better solution.
Well, no idea how it can happen without dropping the phone.
Thinking of getting a camera lens protector to protect it from scratches but worried it will affect the image quality. Any comments?
It sucks up 5% of the light, but the quality itself is not affected.
Might have some light reflections in your pictures when you use a cheap one.
No reflections at all here...
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No reflections at all here...
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where did you get the camera lens from man? Looking forward to buying one for me Xperia 5 too!
Am I missing something, isn't the lens already covered in Gorilla glass 6?
As long as your case lifts the lens off the surface when you put it down, you shouldn't need an extra cover.
Any extra layer over the lens is going to degrade picture quality.
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Thinking of getting a camera lens protector to protect it from scratches but worried it will affect the image quality. Any comments?
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I tested one and found it introduces both glare and tends to diminish clarity. I would recommend against putting one on.
This is also similar to tempered glass or hydrogel front screen protectors. The front camera is so poor IMHO that it needs as much light as possible and nothing to dimish clarity.
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I tested one and found it introduces both glare and tends to diminish clarity. I would recommend against putting one on.
This is also similar to tempered glass or hydrogel front screen protectors. The front camera is so poor IMHO that it needs as much light as possible and nothing to dimish clarity.
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Yeap, anytime you add optic elements like this you degrade the performance.
Almost all smartphone cams have built in lens protectors. That piece of glass or plastic isn't the lense, it's the protector!
Get a good case with a raised guard around the cam module and it will be fine.
Replacements aren't that expensive anyway.
Thanks for the inputs. Previously, my old xperia z's lens got covered in scratches during one my trip overseas. But eventually I managed to rub off the entire coating hence removing the scratches. That's why i started looking into lens protector.