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My battery life has been great with the current set-up, but in the past 3 hours something screwy happened. I basically went to a function and I turned off BT, Wi-Fi, Mobile Data and GPS. Only thing on was the cellular network and I swear I didn't use it for more than 5 minutes. The battery was at 98% before leaving, now in those 3 hours it came down to 50%. What the crap? The only thing I did was to play Super KO Boxing 2 before leaving for about 5 minutes(It still shows its battery usage as 20% but no option to force close, so I am presuming it isn't running). I did open Maps and HTC Locations(Sense 2.0) for 2 minutes but I closed it because I didn't need it anymore, I also disabled GPS right after that. Now after all of this(game and gps stuff) I had 98% battery. Yet 48% of my battery went into thin air just like that, my battery use is Display: ~40%, SKOB : ~20%, Voice calls: ~15%(About 3 minutes), Cell standby ~2%, Wi-Fi ~4-5% or something like that. These are from memory since I turned it off and kept it for charging.
Any ideas what screwed things up?
Edit: Just noticed you are already familiar with the battery %age lcations.
From what you describe, it sounds as though there were some apps running in the background, slowly om nom nom'ing your battery. I daresay there are a few apps on the Android Market and elsewhere that can tell you what services are running at any given time, so you could get one of those.
If you're after ensuring maximum battery life, however, your best bet is to shut down the Desire, then fire it up again. That way, you can be sure there are no background services to drain charge. Couple that with lowering the screen brightness and display idle timeout (not to mention upgrading to Android 2.2), you should be able to go at least a couple of days on standby.
Sounds like one of your apps is keeping your device awake. I'd suggest getting app monitor like SystemPanel and run the monitoring for a few hours to see which app is consuming the battery.
And get WatchDog. It will notify you if there's any app that use the CPU more than 20%. You can set the percentage yourself btw.
All right, I'll be formatting the phone and flashing the RCMixHD v8 ROM(Was using v7) and then see what happens. i can bet my life that it was either HTC Locations or Google Maps screwing things up.
Hey everybody,
Just made the jump from the iPhone 4S and have done the custom ROM/kernel thing the past week. Things were good at the start but I feel them slowly deteriorating.
I find my battery life during sleep has become much worse than before. I mean, it still kills the 4S which would see ~25% overnight. But I'm seeing 10% overnight right now, and was ~2% earlier in the week. I normally have my phone on the charger at night, but didn't last night and I'm kinda glad I got to see this. Makes me realize why I was likely chewing through more in the day too.
You can see what I'm running below in my signature. Last night I had 5 instances where the phone woke on its own. Likely due to emails coming in.
Am I expecting too much from my modifications? Am I doing something wrong? I'm ready to toss AOKP aside because of other issues anyway, but yesterday I also read it was known to have some excessive battery drain as well. Without turning this into a battle to defend the ROM you use (like half the threads in here), if you have other suggestions, feel free to throw in a ROM suggestion. I'll attach some pictures of my battery screen so anyone willing to give me a hand can help.
Thanks in advance.
I had this problem when I was running franco too. Switched to leankernel and never looked back. I get about 4-6% drain overnight as long as I dont do something stupid like leave something running by exiting with home instead of the back button. I also have wifi on 24/7 and gps off unless im nav'in. No BT
Screwedupsmitty said:
I had this problem when I was running franco too. Switched to leankernel and never looked back. I get about 4-6% drain overnight as long as I dont do something stupid like leave something running by exiting with home instead of the back button. I also have wifi on 24/7 and gps off unless im nav'in. No BT
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I'm hesistant to blame the kernel. I was using franco prior to AOKP without issue. I didn't make that clear in the OP. I went 4.0.4 Stock -> Stock + franco -> AOKP b31 + franco. Things were good the first two steps and I'd like to think the first few days on AOKP.
Perhaps I have some background processes chewing battery - but there's nothing with a higher battery drain than Chrome beta with 2%. My phone idle and Cell standby had huge drain though. Could a weaker than normal signal cause this? Could my radio be the culprit?
Steps to best diagnose idle battery drain.
-Install CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats.
-Charge phone to full and let it run for several hours undisturbed (easiest to charge before bed, then unplug it when you know it won't be used till morning).
-Take quick note of your % loss per hour. Around 1%, you're golden. 1-2 is pretty normal. >3 and you've got issues.
-Launch CPU Spy. Most of the time should be deep sleep (we're talking about 95%). If your phone has been awake a lot, there's either an app that refuses to let your phone rest, or an OS/Kernel issue. If it's not extreme but noticeable, you likely just need to reign in settings on some apps to keep them from syncing so often or working in the background.
-Launch Better Battery Stats. Select Partial Wakelocks from the menu. These are all cases of apps waking the phone up, sorted by length. Go look at problem apps' settings/consider uninstalling if you don't need them. Kernel wakelocks should be low too.
Keep in mind that the goal here isn't really to get all these things to zero so do not obsess over small showings. Facebook with push notifications but updates set to never keeps my phone awake for about a minute or two every night, for instance. So does Handcent SMS. If you flash a rom and your phone needs to do a lot of syncing it's likely to show up in this kind of test as well. But for a night with nothing going on, nothing should be keeping your phone up for more than a few minutes total.
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I'm hesistant to blame the kernel. I was using franco prior to AOKP without issue. I didn't make that clear in the OP. I went 4.0.4 Stock -> Stock + franco -> AOKP b31 + franco. Things were good the first two steps and I'd like to think the first few days on AOKP.
Perhaps I have some background processes chewing battery - but there's nothing with a higher battery drain than Chrome beta with 2%. My phone idle and Cell standby had huge drain though. Could a weaker than normal signal cause this? Could my radio be the culprit?
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Weaker than normal signal can kill a phone battery, when I'm in lecture out in the bumfuck nowhere school I go to, I get -100 to -120dbm, which kills my battery while i'm at school. If thats your situation not much to do besides hope radios may increase your signal, but if not then your basicly as SOL as i am and may have to just charge it
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Steps to best diagnose idle battery drain.
-Install CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats.
-Charge phone to full and let it run for several hours undisturbed (easiest to charge before bed, then unplug it when you know it won't be used till morning).
-Take quick note of your % loss per hour. Around 1%, you're golden. 1-2 is pretty normal. >3 and you've got issues.
-Launch CPU Spy. Most of the time should be deep sleep (we're talking about 95%). If your phone has been awake a lot, there's either an app that refuses to let your phone rest, or an OS/Kernel issue. If it's not extreme but noticeable, you likely just need to reign in settings on some apps to keep them from syncing so often or working in the background.
-Launch Better Battery Stats. Select Partial Wakelocks from the menu. These are all cases of apps waking the phone up, sorted by length. Go look at problem apps' settings/consider uninstalling if you don't need them. Kernel wakelocks should be low too.
Keep in mind that the goal here isn't really to get all these things to zero so do not obsess over small showings. Facebook with push notifications but updates set to never keeps my phone awake for about a minute or two every night, for instance. So does Handcent SMS. If you flash a rom and your phone needs to do a lot of syncing it's likely to show up in this kind of test as well. But for a night with nothing going on, nothing should be keeping your phone up for more than a few minutes total.
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This is what every user should use to diagnose battery problems at first.
Hey guys ive done a similar thread on this a while back but this is a bit different now the issue here is when my phone from 100% all the way to 90 % battery is awesome like so damn good. but when it hits 89% it starts draining quite quick the main drainage is when i put the phone in sleep mode it drains. like i had my phone at 85 % left it for exactly 5 minutes and it dropped to 84%. Ive tried every rom/ kernel out there..nothing has helped or changed. I took it to the warranty they said its a software problem and that didnt fix anything. i have BBS and Kernel wakelock since boot is "wlan_rx_wake" maxing out at 2.6 % the others are just power manager service , etc. Partial wakelock since boot is AudioOut_2 stricking at a 17.8% max. And all the others are NetworkLocationLocator. Currently on Pheonix Rom (Debloated ALOT!!,awesome rom) and Note2core since Pearseus gave me lag issues.
Most battery issues are caused by:
1. antenna transmitting
2. screen time
3. processor load
Troubleshooting should start from the simplest things (Before you replace a motherboard/power-supply, make sure the computer is plugged into the socket, etc). Look at apps that use the network (Google Now, Google Local, Google Maps, Google Mail, Google Calendar, Google Contacts, Google Photos, Picasa, Instant Upload, Exchange ActiveSync, Samsung Backup, Weather Widget, Weather & News and whatever app you decide to install, ie: Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Viber, Skype, WhatsApp, etc) and make sure you disable or at least change the app's setting to update less frequently.
Make sure you use automatic brightness and feel free to lower the bar around 50% when full screen brightness is not really required.
Make sure you don't have some app constantly running in the background (You can see this from the Battery menu, the phone shouldn't be 'Awake' most of the time when the screen is off).
I manage to get ~15-20 hours out of one charge, with 4-6 screen hours and all of the apps I mentioned above (with proper sync settings, of course).
Thats cool but i really wanna know why from 100 to 90 battery is awesome but then it start sucking up
Do I have wake locks problems? =(
no those look fine.
a wake lock issue will show around 90% of uptime as awake.
your looking around 11%.
The reason its ace from 100 to 90 percent is that to hit 100% you have to over volt a lithium based battery. this is why most chargers switch to trickle around 90%.
so it confuses the battery monitor as its in a way (as the battery level indicator uses voltage to indicate charge) more than 100%
the battery is a 3.8v battery, but between 90 and 100 percent it is at around 4.6v and dropping so until it hits below 3.8v (100%) it drops very slowly.
Now that i turned off Google Now and ticked off all 3 settings under GPS, I rarely lose a percentage when the screen is off. [I lose 1% overnight] With that said, I feel the total opposite. I feel like phone gets stronger as the percentage goes down. Try doing what I did and let us know what happens.
But why does mine drain so quick..people get like 20 minutes of on screen time per 1 % i get like 3 minutes if im lucky..
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Now that i turned off Google Now and ticked off all 3 settings under GPS, I rarely lose a percentage when the screen is off. [I lose 1% overnight] With that said, I feel the total opposite. I feel like phone gets stronger as the percentage goes down. Try doing what I did and let us know what happens.
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Lost 10% overnight..,i keep most of my stuff really off but it still drains..
bluetooth off
nfc off
GPS off
My google now is on however i dont use it that much..does that really effect your battery ?
Yeah Aus, try turning Google Now off. I personally think it's extremely overated. It keeps track of your location so it will "try" to use gps even if it's turned off. I think just by the program waking the device"trying" to use the gps is wasting precious battery. Let me know how that goes.
ps - obviously I dont have bt and nfc on at all times because I have no use for them myself. but my wifi and 3 emails are constantly on and syncing 24/7
ps 2- I used to lose 10% overnight just like you but I had Google Now and all 3 GPS settings ticked on.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet:
It's a battery gauge. It doesn't actually show 100% of the time the correct %. It could be not calibrated correctly (shouldn't need to, either). I actually spend a lot of time from 100-80%. Then it drops rather quickly! I hardly ever spend any time below 60%, so I'm sure it's just my battery reporting what it THINKS is the correct battery life %.
Hi, I have doubts about the battery or need advices.
When I go to sleep at night and wake up in the morning (6 - 7 hours), the phone drains about 15 - 20%, is it normal?
When I go to sleep I put it in mid power saving, 80% brightness, wi fi and AoD activated, blue filter activated, auto brightness checkbox deactivated and in settings -> maintenance I erase RAM.
Even though, the battery lasts 36 hours or more.
Thanks in advance.
That's normal standby for most devices, though I don't really lose as much percentage overnight by just closing all apps before I go to bed and keeping the brightness low while leaving WiFi and Location Services on. I go to bed with 60% and wake up 7 hours later with around 50%, so maybe you're doing something wrong. But 15-20% overnight isn't really a big deal at all considering how fast this phone charges.; you get 20% back by charging for just 15 minutes. You'd really over ever notice a difference in standby time if you're coming from an iPhone which has the best standby time in the business, but this phone makes up for it just fine.
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That's normal standby for most devices, though I don't really lose as much percentage overnight by just closing all apps before I go to bed and keeping the brightness low while leaving WiFi and Location Services on. I go to bed with 60% and wake up 7 hours later with around 50%, so maybe you're doing something wrong. But 15-20% overnight isn't really a big deal at all considering how fast this phone charges.; you get 20% back by charging for just 15 minutes. You'd really over ever notice a difference in standby time if you're coming from an iPhone which has the best standby time in the business, but this phone makes up for it just fine.
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I see. In fact, last night it went from 60 to 51, so it depends on a lot of things.
Do you say I must change/add some other settings to improve the battery life?
Thanks a lot for your answer!
brutzza said:
I see. In fact, last night it went from 60 to 51, so it depends on a lot of things.
Do you say I must change/add some other settings to improve the battery life?
Thanks a lot for your answer!
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I knew for sure that my battery life increased exponentially when the phone started dozing apps I didn't frequently use. The phone hibernates apps after 3-7 days of not being used, but you can put them to sleep yourself in Device Maintenance.
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I lost just 1-5 at the night I stop AoD,and wifi if you use Facebook app or social media apps will drain battery faster than when using browser it's better.:good:
xHovercraft said:
I knew for sure that my battery life increased exponentially when the phone started dozing apps I didn't frequently use. The phone hibernates apps after 3-7 days of not being used, but you can put them to sleep yourself in Device Maintenance.
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Where exactly do I put apps to sleep? Or may I force them to stop? (don't know if it is said like that, I have it in Spanish).
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I lost just 1-5 at the night I stop AoD,and wifi if you use Facebook app or social media apps will drain battery faster than when using browser it's better.:good:
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Only 1-5% ? Amazing. Yeah, but if you deactivate wifi, you won't get any notifications of anything during the night (if you think about it, you won't answer any because you are sleeping). Maybe I'll try that.
I don't use Facebook too much, but the browser version is a bit slower and not comfortable IMO.
The principal app that drains my battery is the PvZ2, though.
It will disconects wifi even when you turn it on... I lose abou 2 to 3 % night, but I dont see point of having device on during night so now I power it ofd
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Where exactly do I put apps to sleep? Or may I force them to stop? (don't know if it is said like that, I have it in Spanish).
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Settings > Device Maintenance > Battery > Check the apps you don't frequently use and tap Save Power. If you choose to sleep Instagram, for example, you can still open it anytime later by just tapping the app, it'll just take an extra second to start which you won't even notice.
Pandotaz said:
It will disconects wifi even when you turn it on... I lose abou 2 to 3 % night, but I dont see point of having device on during night so now I power it ofd
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Instead of turning it off completely, you can also use the maximum power saving mode. Using that, I went to sleep with 97% and once I checked after waking up it was 96%.
I didn't measure the boot time of the device (not that I even care about it) but disabling the power saving mode might be a bit faster than turning the phone on.
Thanks all of you!
It is NOT normal for battery to drain 15-20% overnight.
Normal drain in that period would be 1-2% without AOD and 4-5% with AOD.
Battery wise A5 '17 have good one. I usually get about 7 hrs on SOT with medium ussage or 1.5 days ussage.
I'm a really light user. I lost a little less than 2% every hour. Basically I use it as a purely communication device. Mostly check facebook messenger, my emails, and occasionally, browse facebook, reddit, 9gag or watch a short youtube video. I stay up about 16 hours on average and at the end of the day, I was regularly around 80%. If I left the phone unplugged overnight while I slept, I only lose about 6% over 8 hours. I was really happy with the battery life. I could very easily see 3 full days out of my phone off a single charge. This was before the Pie update. I tried both the Beta and the Stable once it released, and my battery life has suffered severely. I'm losing 6% every hour, even with the screen off the entire time. At the end of the day, my phone is in the red and has already turned on power saving mode. Android Pie has killed my Pixel 2 XL's battery. I gave it 2 weeks to "learn" my usage habits, but ultimately, I factory reset and even went back to 8.1, but I still suffer from battery issues. Battery usage gives no hint to the culprit. My phone has been unplugged for 7 hours, with 45 minutes of screen on time, and at 54% remaining battery life. Screen On time is the highest battery drain according to the system battery stats. I didn't have this issue until I installed Android Pie Stable.
I have no idea what could be going on, but could really use some help with this.
TL;DR: From 2% to 6% per hour battery drain on Pie. Reverted to Oreo and FR but still an issue. Advice?
Did you check if the WiFi scanning is turned ON? Settings --> Location --> Scanning
I feel its the only issue, nothing should drain your P2XL crazy if apps remaining constant factory reset.
-- personal experience.
I also use it very similarly to you and easily get 2 days with a single charge on Pie. During night my device drains 1 or 2 % only (wi-fi, bluetooth and 4g on), but I have wi-fi scanning off. Google location services are on (including Location Accuracy on). "At a Glance" is turned off but still using stock Pixel Launcher. No hacks/mods installed.
Same except I have at a glance enabled. I disable it 6 hours ago to test and didn't affect battery drain at all. Still losing 6% every hour. Location and scanning settings default except connect to open WiFi is enabled. Right now testing if connect to open WiFi and Bluetooth WiFi location improvement affecting battery drain.
Testing that now. Will report in a day. Heading to bed now. Gn
Does the phone charge all the way to 100%? Does the phone ever turn off by itself when low on battery ~10%? Install and run Accubattery. After a few charging cycles you will get a very close approximation of your battery's remaining capacity as compared with new in mAh. Battery capacity will be located under the health tab. The more charge cycles you monitor, the more accurate it gets, but it will zero in on a number pretty quickly after the first 2-3 charges. Could be the battery... stranger things have happened. This also assumes the user has fully wiped the phone several times going between DP's, Pie and reverting to Oreo.
Does the phone charge all the way to 100%?
- Yes
Does the phone ever turn off by itself when low on battery ~10%?
- Honestly, I don't know. I never let my battery get that low.
Install and run Accubattery. After a few charging cycles you will get a very close approximation of your battery's remaining capacity as compared with new in mAh. Battery capacity will be located under the health tab. The more charge cycles you monitor, the more accurate it gets, but it will zero in on a number pretty quickly after the first 2-3 charges. Could be the battery... stranger things have happened.
- Will do
This also assumes the user has fully wiped the phone several times going between DP's, Pie and reverting to Oreo.
- You assume correctly.
Didn't seem to help.
Didn't seem to help at all.
Video of battery stats and settings.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=164lujTgzt6hihESdFlkb0AdQdOFGiYtX
I changed some settings and now I'm getting 17mAh drain. Fixed.
The biggest battery sucker for me was having Auto-connect to open wifi enabled and fixing stuck sync tasks. It was preventing my phone from sleeping.
Great to know you were able to stop the draining, I think it might be of great help to other P2XL owners to know what were the settings you changed that fixed the issue.
What settings did you change?
I am having the same issue. I would be interested in hearing your changes as well. Thank you
Download and install Accubattery to monitor your mAh usage. Make sure you check your deep sleep percentage. By the sound of things, your phone is running hot when idle, so it's not sleeping like it should be. You can install Wakelock Detector Lite to see which apps are keeping your phone awake. Once you find out what apps are draining your battery, use the System battery manager in Settings to restrict battery usage for those apps. If that doesn't help, then uninstall the app (unless it is necessary to you). If an app isn't keeping your phone awake, then it may be your system settings. Turn off location scanning for wifi and bluetooth (in the GPS section). Turn off Wifi auto-connect to open wifi. Where I live I have pretty weak cellular connection. I opted to disable Mobile data always active in developer options (Go to about phone, and tap the build number 7 times, then enter your device password). While you are here, you can check Running services in developer options and see what you have running. Also, make sure your accounts aren't stuck trying to sync. If they are, cancel the sync and restart it. Depending on how far you are backlogged, this can take a while. If the sync still gets stuck, try removing and re-adding the account that is getting stuck.
After I restricted/uninstalled the misbehaving applications and tuned the device settings, I'm getting great standby time on my Pixel 2 XL. If I close all my apps before putting the phone back in my pocket, according to accubattery, I'm losing 15mA/h or about 0.4%/h. If I charged my phone to 100%, then unplugged it without using it at all, it would take 10 days for the battery to run out. It's pretty good. As someone who primarily uses their phone as a communication device and research tool, I'm a pretty lightweight user.
+1 What settings did you change?
Yes, please, don't keep us in suspense!
Just got a used one so trying to learn all about getting optimum performance.