Why the Android System battery consumption on Stock ROM high on Op3? - OnePlus 3 Questions & Answers

Has anyone noticed this? I have been using stock rom since the start but after 7.0 update the battery drain by Android System is high. I tried different ROM's that are based on Stock ROM, there also the story is same. I dont know about AOSP based ROM's as i havent tried them due to camera quality. Is there any solution to this? Like if it is related to kernel ?
TIA

Your answer lies in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811&page=5

sarus_b said:
Your answer lies in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811&page=5
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I read what you linked, I don't even think it's related to my post.

anshmiester78900 said:
Has anyone noticed this? I have been using stock rom since the start but after 7.0 update the battery drain by Android System is high. I tried different ROM's that are based on Stock ROM, there also the story is same. I dont know about AOSP based ROM's as i havent tried them due to camera quality. Is there any solution to this? Like if it is related to kernel ?
TIA
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Depends on how you use your phone day in and day out. If you are using the phone as it was intended to be used (like a phone), then you would expect there to be a system drain component; if there wasn't, you've basically got your phone on airplane mode with every feature and settings turned off. I don't think the system drain is a stock rom issue, it's basically a part of every Android OS. No it is not a kernel issue (unless the kernel is poorly written, usually not the case with stock or any of the other kernels out there for the OP3).
And what do you mean by battery drain is high? You mean it's listed as one of the top 3 on the battery info screen? That screen is basically meaningless and is relative to all other apps/processes running on your phone. If you work 8 hours a day and you don't touch your phone once, I will guarantee you that Android System will be 1 or 2 on that list (next to Google Services). If you watch movies saved on your phone for 6 hours straight, I can guarantee you that Screen will be at the top of that list. That battery info screen is there to give you a rough idea of what's using up the juice.
The phone still has the battery to last you a full work day on a single charge (unless you're a heavy gamer) with email sync, texting, phone calls, music, minimal social media (many of these apps are battery hogs). If you run low early, Dash Charge is quite amazing.

anshmiester78900 said:
I read what you linked, I don't even think it's related to my post.
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My bad. I was under assumption you would find and understand something. You are to naive to understand it. No offense intended

sarus_b said:
My bad. I was under assumption you would find and understand something. You are to naive to understand it. No offense intended
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He's having Android System battery drain how exactly is that link related? You clearly didn't understand what you read for you to assume that's the answer. Stop trying to act smart
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sarus_b said:
My bad. I was under assumption you would find and understand something. You are to naive to understand it. No offense intended
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if you think something related to his problem is in the post then just explain it to him and dont act like an arrogant smartass.

anshmiester78900 said:
Has anyone noticed this? I have been using stock rom since the start but after 7.0 update the battery drain by Android System is high. I tried different ROM's that are based on Stock ROM, there also the story is same. I dont know about AOSP based ROM's as i havent tried them due to camera quality. Is there any solution to this? Like if it is related to kernel ?
TIA
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I fully concur with your observation since I had also experienced the same issue when I switched from stock OOS MM to stock OOS N. I don't know what causes it. It was bad and I was forced to go back to MM till I found Vertex OS. It is Nougat and battery life is amazing. It is also stock ROM based.
Some may complain that Vertex has no gimmicks but I am satisfied with what it has to offer. Try it.

tnsmani said:
I fully concur with your observation since I had also experienced the same issue when I switched from stock OOS MM to stock OOS N. I don't know what causes it. It was bad and I was forced to go back to MM till I found Vertex OS. It is Nougat and battery life is amazing. It is also stock ROM based.
Some may complain that Vertex has no gimmicks but I am satisfied with what it has to offer. Try it.
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I have noticed the same thing since the second nougat beta released around December 15th. It is there even on debloating, trying custom kernels, disabling apps, etc. Then I changed to lineageOS, and surprisingly even on it Android System was on top. Till now I haven't come across any solution.

I had the same issue. It was due to OTG/usb host interrupts for me. Try better battery stats to find out what is causing it.

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[Q] ROMs that enhance battery performance?

I recently bought a used Sprint Galaxy S3, it is the SPH-L710 model.
It works great, I like it, I got it rooted with no problem, and got CWM flashed to it and I'm getting ready to flash a ROM.
I've been searching forums and sites for about 2 days for the ROM I want to use.
I'm mainly looking for something that enhances my battery performance, the reason for this is when I first got the phone, I updated it to the 4.4.2 KitKat when I first turned the phone on and the battery life was terrible, like I would charge it to 100% and use it browsing the web for about 10 mins and lose sometimes upwards of 10+% within that 10 minutes.
I searched around and found 2 Apps that I am using right now, one is a battery doctor type thing, the other is an app called Battery Saver (root) it changes some stuff and is supposed to make battery life better, since I have started using these 2 apps my battery life has increased, but it still seems to drain a little fast. So I would like to try and find a ROM that perhaps has tweaked the battery life.
Does anyone have any opinions on battery life for any of the ROMs here that would work for my device, like perhaps which one that you have tried that extended your battery life? I know I could just try them myself, but I am hoping to save a bit of time and see if anyone has some input.
Also another quick question, is there a way to test my battery and see if its just bad? A friend mentioned that the battery could have just gone bad so I'd like to check that if possible.
A. S3s aren't known for their amazing battery life. My battery does not go very far either, talking on the phone, which I do a lot for work, gobbles up the battery immensely. (Like 100% to 80% in 30 minutes.) Web browsing is another battery hog.
B. ROMs are only going to do so much as far as extending your battery life. Just bear in mind -- the lighter the ROM, the less battery it'll likely consume.
You'll do more to save battery by flashing a custom kernel on top of a light ROM that'll allow you undervolt/underclock. But, you want to make sure you flash the correct kernel to the correct ROM base (e.g. Touchwiz kernel for Touchwiz ROMs, AOSP/CM based kernels for AOSP/CM based ROMs).
I personally use the DKP kernel found here in the S3 original development thread.
Be careful w/ underclocking and especially undervolting, as this can cause the phone to freeze up. It's also important to choose a governor that has a nice balance between performance and power savings. (I like the freelunch governor.)
Hope this helps.
Higgs_Boson said:
A. S3s aren't known for their amazing battery life. My battery does not go very far either, talking on the phone, which I do a lot for work, gobbles up the battery immensely. (Like 100% to 80% in 30 minutes.) Web browsing is another battery hog.
B. ROMs are only going to do so much as far as extending your battery life. Just bear in mind -- the lighter the ROM, the less battery it'll likely consume.
You'll do more to save battery by flashing a custom kernel on top of a light ROM that'll allow you undervolt/underclock. But, you want to make sure you flash the correct kernel to the correct ROM base (e.g. Touchwiz kernel for Touchwiz ROMs, AOSP/CM based kernels for AOSP/CM based ROMs).
I personally use the DKP kernel found here in the S3 original development thread.
Be careful w/ underclocking and especially undervolting, as this can cause the phone to freeze up. It's also important to choose a governor that has a nice balance between performance and power savings. (I like the freelunch governor.)
Hope this helps.
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Thanks!
That gives me an idea of what I should start looking for, and I'll check out the DKP kernel as well..
I just thought of another question I had, maybe you can help me with it too.
Since I'm running Android 4.4.2 on my device, would I need to find a 4.4.2 ROM to flash?
For instance could I use a 4.3.1 ROM on my 4.4.2 device?
vagabond007 said:
Thanks!
That gives me an idea of what I should start looking for, and I'll check out the DKP kernel as well..
I just thought of another question I had, maybe you can help me with it too.
Since I'm running Android 4.4.2 on my device, would I need to find a 4.4.2 ROM to flash?
For instance could I use a 4.3.1 ROM on my 4.4.2 device?
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It doesn't matter which Android version you decide to go with. Just avoid two things:
1. Do not flash an older bootloader than the one you are currently on (e.g. If you are currently on ND8, do not flash any older bootloaders like MK5 or MD4).
2. Do not flash any modems older than the one you're currently on. Your modem version can be found in Settings -->About Phone --> and the last three letter/number combination under "Baseband Version". Hint: The baseband version also tells you which bootloader/ROM you're on.
Doing either of these, will trip Samsung's KNOX security feature, tripping the kill-fuse, and suddenly, you'll have yourself a nice hard brick.
I know that probably sounds intimidating, but I assure you if you avoid those two things, you can flash any D2LTE ROM you please. (D2LTE ROMs will work with the Sprint S3.)
idk man the batter life of my S3 lasts 2 days where my Infuse 4g would last less then one with a new battery.....so by far the best battery life I've had in a while
Higgs_Boson said:
It doesn't matter which Android version you decide to go with. Just avoid two things:
1. Do not flash an older bootloader than the one you are currently on (e.g. If you are currently on ND8, do not flash any older bootloaders like MK5 or MD4).
2. Do not flash any modems older than the one you're currently on. Your modem version can be found in Settings -->About Phone --> and the last three letter/number combination under "Baseband Version". Hint: The baseband version also tells you which bootloader/ROM you're on.
Doing either of these, will trip Samsung's KNOX security feature, tripping the kill-fuse, and suddenly, you'll have yourself a nice hard brick.
I know that probably sounds intimidating, but I assure you if you avoid those two things, you can flash any D2LTE ROM you please. (D2LTE ROMs will work with the Sprint S3.)
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Wew! Thanks for that info, you may have saved me from a terrible mistake lol.
One of the ROMs I was looking at was using the MD4 bootloader, so that would have been a no-no xD
Thanks a lot for all your help, I learned a few things from it, epspecially about the bootloaders and modems having to match, I had no idea about that. Now that I know that, it opens up a few more possibilities for ROMs I can use!
vagabond007 said:
Wew! Thanks for that info, you may have saved me from a terrible mistake lol.
One of the ROMs I was looking at was using the MD4 bootloader, so that would have been a no-no xD
Thanks a lot for all your help, I learned a few things from it, epspecially about the bootloaders and modems having to match, I had no idea about that. Now that I know that, it opens up a few more possibilities for ROMs I can use!
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Fun fact: The bootloaders and modems didn't always have to match.
Samsung wanted to be able to market their devices to business entities, and in order to do that, they developed the KNOX security feature.
Once it's on your phone, it's not coming off. It matters to corporate security policy people, because they want devices that aren't going to be compromised if someone tampers with them.
And, as you can see, the wrong kind of tampering makes the phone completely unusable and unrecoverable.
Higgs_Boson said:
Fun fact: The bootloaders and modems didn't always have to match.
Samsung wanted to be able to market their devices to business entities, and in order to do that, they developed the KNOX security feature.
Once it's on your phone, it's not coming off. It matters to corporate security policy people, because they want devices that aren't going to be compromised if someone tampers with them.
And, as you can see, the wrong kind of tampering makes the phone completely unusable and unrecoverable.
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Right now I'm sort of leaning towards LiquidSmooth, Quantam4, or Tribute ROM, still sort of looking around though.
If you don't mind me asking @Higgs_Boson, which ROM are you using?
Also, to the other poster, my mothers GS3 is the same way, hers will last upwards of a day and a half, then again she doesn;t use hers for much, while I'm on mine like a computer lol.
vagabond007 said:
Right now I'm sort of leaning towards LiquidSmooth, Quantam4, or Tribute ROM, still sort of looking around though.
If you don't mind me asking @Higgs_Boson, which ROM are you using?
Also, to the other poster, my mothers GS3 is the same way, hers will last upwards of a day and a half, then again she doesn;t use hers for much, while I'm on mine like a computer lol.
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Right now, I'm on CM11.
I usually switch between two that are my favorites:
CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android.
If you want an all-in-one, there is always PAC-ROM, which includes Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CM all under the same roof. (But then, we get back to that thing about light ROMs.)
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Higgs_Boson said:
Right now, I'm on CM11.
I usually switch between two that are my favorites:
CyanogenMod or Paranoid Android.
If you want an all-in-one, there is always PAC-ROM, which includes Paranoid Android, AOKP, and CM all under the same roof. (But then, we get back to that thing about light ROMs.)
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I completely overlooked CM
Is CM11 compatible with the DKP Kernel you were telling me about?
yep
Yes it is. I'm that combo at the moment
im currently running wicked X 8.0
6th_Hokage said:
im currently running wicked X 8.0
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I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
jbnorton0524 said:
I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
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personally yes after i replace the system UI with the Stock ND8/NDC one and same with the TW Framework and TWframework-res.apk and use the Stockish theme for it.....i like the stock look what can i say but im using xposed at the same time for little things here and there but if you don't want to replace somethings and want it to work 100% use the PCB theme that it comes with.......but either way its pretty smooth and fast and the battery lasts for 2 days with some gaming and listening to music with viper4android installed and making calls and texting the one thing that i would say drains my battery is watching videos but you'll be satisfied
Wow you arent joking. This is one of the best ive seen lately. Nice.
jbnorton0524 said:
I'm in the process of d/ing that right now. U like it?
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Wicked X, Tribute and Conquest Singularity are all 3 very good ROMs with pretty fair battery life. As stated, Kernal Settings do make a world of difference! I'm on Singularity with latest KT747 Kernal and love it :]
Cm 11 or paranoid

Where are all the ROMS?

I currently have a nexus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade. The G4 looks like a great option as it have more RAM better processor, better screen and mainly an SD SLOT!!!! I currently am getting by with 16GB which is then around 10GB usuable. My question is is this phone worth getting considering I would like a custom ROM. I'd be happy with CM12 but there doesn't look like much support, I can get this phone pretty cheap but I'm not sure as the support just doesn't seem to be here. Anyone with this phone got any advice? Look elsewhere or buy it?
cyberdude020 said:
I currently have a nexus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade. The G4 looks like a great option as it have more RAM better processor, better screen and mainly an SD SLOT!!!! I currently am getting by with 16GB which is then around 10GB usuable. My question is is this phone worth getting considering I would like a custom ROM. I'd be happy with CM12 but there doesn't look like much support, I can get this phone pretty cheap but I'm not sure as the support just doesn't seem to be here. Anyone with this phone got any advice? Look elsewhere or buy it?
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I recently switched to the G4 (H811) from the S6 Edge back in October. I would consider it a good upgrade. The official CM updates are already rolled out and I've been using it as a daily driver even through the buggy (not complaining) Alpha and Beta stages. As a lot of other users have already stated, most of us considered the stock ROM good enough, especially with Marshmallow rolling out pretty soon. The only reason I switched to CM 12.1 was for the near stock look and the lag in the stock ROM. I've heard good things about the CTT MOD, eliminating lag involving thermal throttling. I used MicroMod777's debloated stock ROM. It ran smoother than stock in my experience. I'll be happy to answer anymore questions you have, given my experience with the device.
[T-MOB H811/ INT H815] [Nightly] Cyanogenmod 12.1
CTT Mod for the G4 eliminates lag and more (10/16)
[ROM] G4 H811 10N Stock, Debloated, Rooted ROM's + Mods
KingofPineCones said:
I recently switched to the G4 (H811) from the S6 Edge back in October. I would consider it a good upgrade. The official CM updates are already rolled out and I've been using it as a daily driver even through the buggy (not complaining) Alpha and Beta stages. As a lot of other users have already stated, most of us considered the stock ROM good enough, especially with Marshmallow rolling out pretty soon. The only reason I switched to CM 12.1 was for the near stock look and the lag in the stock ROM. I've heard good things about the CTT MOD, eliminating lag involving thermal throttling. I used MicroMod777's debloated stock ROM. It ran smoother than stock in my experience. I'll be happy to answer anymore questions you have, given my experience with the device.
[T-MOB H811/ INT H815] [Nightly] Cyanogenmod 12.1
CTT Mod for the G4 eliminates lag and more (10/16)
[ROM] G4 H811 10N Stock, Debloated, Rooted ROM's + Mods
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Thanks a lot. I really like this phone however I don't like stock. I am happy with CM12 though as it has all the features I use. How stable is CM? Are the bugs ironed out now? How is battery life and heat issues? What type of lag is it? Scrolling lag or gaming? I saw the mod but didn't read too much into it, also is over clocking an option via kernels?
Thank again for answering my questions, it will save me a lot of time searching the forums
cyberdude020 said:
Thanks a lot. I really like this phone however I don't like stock. I am happy with CM12 though as it has all the features I use. How stable is CM? Are the bugs ironed out now? How is battery life and heat issues? What type of lag is it? Scrolling lag or gaming? I saw the mod but didn't read too much into it, also is over clocking an option via kernels?
Thank again for answering my questions, it will save me a lot of time searching the forums
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CM is pretty stable so far, good enough for a daily driver. Trebuchet crashes every now and then and I've noticed some issues with the camera (besides the actual camera app, that's just AOSP camera in general). I'm not complaining, nor rushing the devs, but it's easily usable as a daily driver. To sum it up, bugs are present, but not bad. Battery life is iffy, I can get through an entire day with 2 batteries and sometimes a charge. I'd say it's around 3 hours SOT. Heat issues are way worse on the stock ROM, nothing too bad so far on CM. Lag on CM is little things like scrolling or keyboard animations, and apps crashing now and then. I haven't tried much gaming. Over clocking is possible.
if you guys use CM custom rom, which app use for camera? is the CM camera apps as good as stock to use all features of the G4 camera? or you don't care about photos, you just need other features covered by CM rom?
cyberdude020 said:
I currently have a nexus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade. The G4 looks like a great option as it have more RAM better processor, better screen and mainly an SD SLOT!!!! I currently am getting by with 16GB which is then around 10GB usuable. My question is is this phone worth getting considering I would like a custom ROM. I'd be happy with CM12 but there doesn't look like much support, I can get this phone pretty cheap but I'm not sure as the support just doesn't seem to be here. Anyone with this phone got any advice? Look elsewhere or buy it?
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I think the issue is because of the bootloader and the fact that there are only 2 variants which is can be unlocked on.
I know CandySix is coming to the G4 though :good:
donkanmcklaus said:
if you guys use CM custom rom, which app use for camera? is the CM camera apps as good as stock to use all features of the G4 camera? or you don't care about photos, you just need other features covered by CM rom?
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The other features are worth losing the camera. It's still great for regular pictures but don't expect a DSLR replacement. They're still working on getting the G4 Camera ported to the ROM.
donkanmcklaus said:
is the CM camera apps as good as stock to use all features of the G4 camera?
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you can use other 3rd party camera apps but you lose some features like night shot which is used by front camera as well.
also shutter time will not be more than 0.5s, stock goes up to 30s.
Its not clear to me how CM will make use of the colour sensor and laser AF. Are shots as quick to take, are they as clear.
Low light on auto ? this is buggy right now from the few samples i saw.
Whether unlocking bootloader automatically disables these features is not clear. Because if it does then its a one way process. You lose it forever.
or you don't care about photos, you just need other features covered by CM rom?
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exactly
So much easier to just get a nexus isn't it.
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KingofPineCones said:
Battery life is iffy, I can get through an entire day with 2 batteries and sometimes a charge. I'd say it's around 3 hours SOT.
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You get 3h sot on cm or stock ?
regardless you should be getting more, on stock.
3-4h on data, 4-5h on wifi. If your brightness is 25% you can add an extra hour in there. This is normal with stock and greenify.
If you can't get that then you need a reset.
I've seen very little to no benefits accruing to battery life by rooting, roms or exposed. if you must go down that route its about features.
One Twelve said:
You get 3h sot on cm or stock ?
regardless you should be getting more, on stock.
3-4h on data, 4-5h on wifi. If your brightness is 25% you can add an extra hour in there. This is normal with stock and greenify.
If you can't get that then you need a reset.
I've seen very little to no benefits accruing to battery life by rooting, roms or exposed. if you must go down that route its about features.
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3h SOT on CM, less on stock. That's with greenify and screen at around 30% brightness. I'm not going to complain to CM development for those numbers, but I'll try one of the debloated stock ROMs and report back after a few days. Thanks for the advice.
the ROMS are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development
next time use search or better thread title.
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the ROMS are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development
next time use search or better thread title.
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Looks like a ghost town to me. Compare that forum to the equivalent G3 forum, even at the current date in 2014, and it was way more lively.
With every passing day it looks more and more like the G4 has been abandoned. I guess you can't blame the devs, LG are being pricks about the bootloader.
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the ROMS are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development
next time use search or better thread title.
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Pretty clear there is not much to choose from and even then they seem to have bugs. This was a genuine question no need to be cocky although I'm sure it makes you feel superior.
Thanks a lot guys, it was basically a choice between the G4 or a Sony Z5 both have little support, obviously the Z5 has only just been released so it's to be expected. I'm just a little disappointed as the G4 seemed so perfect for me hardware wise vs price, plus the fact the G4 uses the 808 as opposed to the 810 which has overheating problems. The Moto X pure is looking like a possibility for this reason now. I tend to keep my phones fairly long so I need something quite stable. I think I will hold off for now until support for the phones I'm interested in grows, unless I see something really cheap in the black Friday sales
Thank you for your help everyone, I appreciate it!!
cyberdude020 said:
Thanks a lot guys, it was basically a choice between the G4 or a Sony Z5 both have little support, obviously the Z5 has only just been released so it's to be expected. I'm just a little disappointed as the G4 seemed so perfect for me hardware wise vs price, plus the fact the G4 uses the 808 as opposed to the 810 which has overheating problems. The Moto X pure is looking like a possibility for this reason now. I tend to keep my phones fairly long so I need something quite stable. I think I will hold off for now until support for the phones I'm interested in grows, unless I see something really cheap in the black Friday sales
Thank you for your help everyone, I appreciate it!!
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I'm in the exact same boat man, G4 looks like the perfect phone in terms of hardware but the software situation is just depressing. We'll see how things pan out once Marshmallow has made it to all G4s, but if thing don't pick up I'll have to look elsewhere.
dogroll said:
I'm in the exact same boat man, G4 looks like the perfect phone in terms of hardware but the software situation is just depressing. We'll see how things pan out once Marshmallow has made it to all G4s, but if thing don't pick up I'll have to look elsewhere.
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The Moto X pure has very similar hardware to the G4, if it's within your budget I'd suggest looking there once the phone has been out awhile and gained support.
KingofPineCones said:
3h SOT on CM, less on stock. That's with greenify and screen at around 30% brightness.
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What's is your usage like ? if its heavy then i don't think you can do better.
I'm not going to complain to CM development for those numbers, but I'll try one of the debloated stock ROMs and report back after a few days. Thanks for the advice.
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if you can't get those figures in stock then Cm can't do more.
debloated if you have a carrier rom, its not necessary otherwise.
How long you had the device ?
People that can't get beyond 3h sot need a reset. something is running more than it needs to. a reset fixes it. dont just do a plain restore after, install apps in small batches and monitor.
One Twelve said:
What's is your usage like ? if its heavy then i don't think you can do better.
if you can't get those figures in stock then Cm can't do more.
debloated if you have a carrier rom, its not necessary otherwise.
How long you had the device ?
People that can't get beyond 3h sot need a reset. something is running more than it needs to. a reset fixes it. dont just do a plain restore after, install apps in small batches and monitor.
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Heavy usage. I got better in CM than stock. I've had the T-Mobile G4 since around late September. And yes, I need the debloated ROM because my stock H811 ROM is the carrier one. I've also noticed less lag on it with animations, particularly the keyboard pop-up ones.
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Heavy usage.
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Ah, then 3-4hrs of sot is normal.
was testing with youtube and speakers on max. 1 hr of youtube eats up around 27%. 3hrs of youtube like that and its recharge time.
With bluetooth it drops to 20%. Must be some more savings with wired speakers.
with screen off and just podcasts its 10%/hour.
So far the heaviest usage is recoding with 4k. Do that for 90 minutes and the battery is flat.
I got better in CM than stock. I've had the T-Mobile G4 since around late September. And yes, I need the debloated ROM because my stock H811 ROM is the carrier one. I've also noticed less lag on it with animations, particularly the keyboard pop-up ones.
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How long is your standby ?
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How long is your standby ?
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I'm actually not sure, I'm almost always using it. It drains around 10% over night (about 7 hours) if I forget to plug it in. That's on the CM ROM.
Bootloader is still annyoing to unlock for most models/ not possible, also this phone has so many different models.
On top of that we got from Lolipop to MM quite fast which may also be a reason for the lack of roms.
If I'd be a Dev I'd rather not put too much effort in Lolipop roms for the G4 if MM is right around the corner.
Dunno maybe it will get better now

"future proof" rom

Hi, i've recently purchased an used z2 plus, and since it's the weekend and packages can't be shipped the vendor (good guy) told me he will flash a custom rom if i ask him to do so.
I have zero experience with custom roms and i'll probably keep the one he'll flash for a while, i'd like one based on android oreo and if possible that supports ota for a bit of future proofing.
My main concerns are heat and battery life, is LineageOS 15.1 good? Or would you recommend a different one?
Thanks!
eqyliq said:
Hi, i've recently purchased an used z2 plus, and since it's the weekend and packages can't be shipped the vendor (good guy) told me he will flash a custom rom if i ask him to do so.
I have zero experience with custom roms and i'll probably keep the one he'll flash for a while, i'd like one based on android oreo and if possible that supports ota for a bit of future proofing.
My main concerns are heat and battery life, is LineageOS 15.1 good? Or would you recommend a different one?
Thanks!
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If you're a normal user don't flash any rom. Atleast for a week after that decide to flash the rom. (If you're not statisfied with stock rom)
You can easily flash the custom rom with the help of xda members and YouTube.
PrincE.. said:
If you're a normal user don't flash any rom. Atleast for a week after that decide to flash the rom. (If you're not statisfied with stock rom)
You can easily flash the custom rom with the help of xda members and YouTube.
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thanks prince, but after browsing the forum for a while no one seems to likes the stock rom, i'm also fairly nervous at the thought of flashing it myself haha, and since the vendor is so kind to do it for me i'd like to give it a try!
a nougat based one is also fine if it means more battery or less heat
eqyliq said:
thanks prince, but after browsing the forum for a while no one seems to likes the stock rom, i'm also fairly nervous at the thought of flashing it myself haha, and since the vendor is so kind to do it for me i'd like to give it a try!
a nougat based one is also fine if it means more battery or less heat
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actually stock rom has ugly ui. Otherwise you can use it and yes custom rom has more performance and better backup but you won't be satisfied with single rom, once you start flashing custom rom you will flash infinite time different different rom( it's my personal experience:laugh and you won't be satisfied completely.:silly:
If you absolutely want a stable custom rom, I'd recommend something like Ressurection Remix 6
DarkStar911 said:
If you absolutely want a stable custom rom, I'd recommend something like Ressurection Remix 6
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but the rom was never updated after relase?
eqyliq said:
Correct me if i'm wrong, but the rom was never updated after relase?
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yes, try latest aex. Overall performance is better among all.
If I were you, I'd probably stay on stock. Considering that you said you feel nervous about flashing etc. There's not scary about it though, really.
Oreo = heat, 4 5 hours of battery
I am on nougat = 8+ hours of battery life. I have gotten to 9hours exactly in the past.
Can't really recommend an Oreo ROM, but Jaguar is recognized to be REALLY good and the developer is quite active.
AEX 5.* = Heat.
I am on AEX 4.4 (and I've tried all of the bigger ones), just switched to Heliox kernel (from 15.10) + AKT (advanced kernel tweaks) which basically gives me tramendous control over how my battery is used up. I just reset my battery stats, so AccuBattery will take awhile in order to calculate an accurate projection, but I am expecting to 9 and half to hopefully 10 hours of screen on time. I don't play games though.
The latest is not always the best.
If you want to take control of your phone, to be able to not see any ads on your phone, not waste data on such spam - custom ROM is the rout. If you don't care all that much, keep it stock.
dibt359 said:
If I were you, I'd probably stay on stock. Considering that you said you feel nervous about flashing etc. There's not scary about it though, really.
Oreo = heat, 4 5 hours of battery
I am on nougat = 8+ hours of battery life. I have gotten to 9hours exactly in the past.
Can't really recommend an Oreo ROM, but Jaguar is recognized to be REALLY good and the developer is quite active.
AEX 5.* = Heat.
I am on AEX 4.4 (and I've tried all of the bigger ones), just switched to Heliox kernel (from 15.10) + AKT (advanced kernel tweaks) which basically gives me tramendous control over how my battery is used up. I just reset my battery stats, so AccuBattery will take awhile in order to calculate an accurate projection, but I am expecting to 9 and half to hopefully 10 hours of screen on time. I don't play games though.
The latest is not always the best.
If you want to take control of your phone, to be able to not see any ads on your phone, not waste data on such spam - custom ROM is the rout. If you don't care all that much, keep it stock.
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which build are u using could u share the build link please coz i am also tired of flashing different roms mostly oero.. downloading new pe build right now... i have decided in case pe backup is not good i'll go back to nougat coz nothing diferrent really for basic user in o and n from ux perspective.
does 4.4 have offline charge ??? with or without heliox??
dibt359 said:
If I were you, I'd probably stay on stock. Considering that you said you feel nervous about flashing etc. There's not scary about it though, really.
Oreo = heat, 4 5 hours of battery
I am on nougat = 8+ hours of battery life. I have gotten to 9hours exactly in the past.
Can't really recommend an Oreo ROM, but Jaguar is recognized to be REALLY good and the developer is quite active.
AEX 5.* = Heat.
I am on AEX 4.4 (and I've tried all of the bigger ones), just switched to Heliox kernel (from 15.10) + AKT (advanced kernel tweaks) which basically gives me tramendous control over how my battery is used up. I just reset my battery stats, so AccuBattery will take awhile in order to calculate an accurate projection, but I am expecting to 9 and half to hopefully 10 hours of screen on time. I don't play games though.
The latest is not always the best.
If you want to take control of your phone, to be able to not see any ads on your phone, not waste data on such spam - custom ROM is the rout. If you don't care all that much, keep it stock.
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Thanks! I'm currently on ice cream sandwich and the possibility to get the latest relase probably got me a little too excited; if nougat is that much better i'll definitely choose a rom based on it
Do you have any recommendation for a noob-proof flashing guide? Considering how much i love trying different linux flavours i'm sure i'd enjoy flashing roms too
Here's the deal:
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My main concerns are heat and battery life,
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AKT is a must. Akt = 9+ hours sot normal use for me (browsing, messaging, a few phone calls, music), 10+ hours if mostly reading. I've opened a thread about AKT.
And sun cooling. Sun cooling uses some whatever fancy way of helping us keep the temp down (I don't understand too much), for me it is quite noticable when charging, but the consensus seems to be that it works well.
And also keep the background processes to a minimum (make use of appops to adjust permissions + forcedoze + maybe greenify) so your phone doesn't have at all issues going into deep sleep, my deep sleep is 99%, of screen off time, I'd drain 1% overnight for example, when I set it aside deep sleep is rock solid.
That's what I've found to be the most useful tips, I began the same journey as you awhile back, that's my second rooted phone.
Dual speaker mod is pretty great. That's the best sounding phone that have heard personally. As with any phone, the mid highs are exaggerated, have to be tuned down. Use the stereo option when flashing. I can guarantee you that you'll get as good results if you mirror my settings (and slightly adjust them to your preferences), screenshots attached. Don't go too much over -4.4db, you can go max to -2.0 (with my settings & EQs) and listen to music at maxed out levels totally 100% safely.
Dude go for AEX 5.2 25 DATE build...which is the best in oreo based roms...the main aim of this build is performance......and as per gaming this is the best of among all nougat and oreo based roms i know some of nougat fans boys ready restrict me..but one's you stick with aex 5.2 you never look back...trust me...once give it try....
When you purchase a phone, new or old, first have some experience with the stock device. Specially with used stuff, its way more important.
Custom ROM is designed to be used for user specific modification requirements.
I am not saying your vendor is planning to cheat you but a custom ROM with unlocked bootloader plus root can allow masking any issue present on the device.
Buy bone stock. Use it for couple of week to see if all device function are working as per manufacturers specifications !!
This also allows you to understand your own requirements for a custom ROM. Because this bring us to your question, future proofing.
No ROM is future proof, all roms are fruit of volunteering effort of lot of individuals. Secondly all ROMs have some good things are some bad, so only thing is future proof is to learn your self the steps needed for installing a custom ROM.
Search XDA for following steps and topics related to custom ROM installing.
1. Bootloader unlocking (dedicated thread present).
2. Downloading and installing TWRP
3. Downloading and flashing a custom ROM along with GApps.
You may need to switch between few roms to find what you feel best for your usage.
But before all this, spent couple of weeks with the bone stock device while you research here in XDA about those topics and discuss as you feel clearing doubts !!
Note:- if vendor is refusing to sell bone stock device, it's better no to buy it.
What NaXal said is right.. Custom ROM can be used to hide issues with phone by saying this feature is not support in custom ROM ++ also hide malicious software for capture personal info banking info.. Etc.. Buy phone stock ROM locked bootloader.. Root layery
try AEX5.5+NamelessKernal+thermal Mod
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dibt359 said:
Dual speaker mod is pretty great. That's the best sounding phone that have heard personally. As with any phone, the mid highs are exaggerated, have to be tuned down. Use the stereo option when flashing. I can guarantee you that you'll get as good results if you mirror my settings (and slightly adjust them to your preferences), screenshots attached. Don't go too much over -4.4db, you can go max to -2.0 (with my settings & EQs) and listen to music at maxed out levels totally 100% safely.
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Dude Flashing Info pls

Best rom for battery(SOT)

Hello everyone.
I was wondering what ROM you guys are using for the best possible battery results? (SOT)
I used to be a gamer and recently quit all games I've been playing. I'm currently using a mi globe rom.
I also changed my battery like 2 weeks ago but the problem still persisted.
The battery drain is devastating.
Even with the screen off, it drains like mad.
I want some recommendations about a ROM that will give me good battery results, be it official/unofficial or MIUI/custom, it doesn't really matter for me.
I like both.
I think ur battery is dying, and U should replace it. Check for few days battery status by AccuBattery from google store.
How is my battery dying, man? Did you read the post? I just changed my battery 2 weeks ago with a brand new one. It's just the ROM that drains the battery.
Oh, i'm sorry. I missed it...
Hello, my gf's mi6's battery seems to be going downhill but she's had it for about 3 years so it seems normal, I'll have to change it soon - one thing that has helped is flashing Paranoid Android ("Quartz 3") to limit drain on the OS side. Since you seem to be playing a lot of games, your battery running out quicker than usual seems normal to me, but give Paranoid Android a try, it's better than MIUI roms imo (I've got a k20 pro on Quartz 3 as well).
Hmm, I see. No, I don't play games anymore.
If you see my post above, I said that I've quit all the games I've been playing in the past.
I'm just using normal and social media apps like Facebook, Instagram etc.
Guess I'll give that a try. Did you change the kernel to a custom one or something? Also, what firmware did you flash before installing Quartz?
Or did you just flash a fastboot official ROM then wipe data + cache, and installed Quartz?
narutog7 said:
Hmm, I see. No, I don't play games anymore.
If you see my post above, I said that I've quit all the games I've been playing in the past.
I'm just using normal and social media apps like Facebook, Instagram etc.
Guess I'll give that a try. Did you change the kernel to a custom one or something? Also, what firmware did you flash before installing Quartz?
Or did you just flash a fastboot official ROM then wipe data + cache, and installed Quartz?
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I am in your situation, have you found a ROM with low consumption?
i think i will install:
- Evolution X
- Rev 0S Miui
- Paranoid
- Pixel Experience
I'm just looking for low battery consumption and having Gcam.
I have literally tried countless things for my phone and I'm honestly left without options anymore. Even though i love MI 6, this battery issue has led me to think about buying another phone. Charging your phone 2 times a day has destroyed the purpose of a "mobile phone".
I've tried Android paranoid, epic rom, havoc os, pixel experience etc, yet no rom left me satisfied as far as the battery is concerned.
narutog7 said:
I have literally tried countless things for my phone and I'm honestly left without options anymore. Even though i love MI 6, this battery issue has led me to think about buying another phone. Charging your phone 2 times a day has destroyed the purpose of a "mobile phone".
I've tried Android paranoid, epic rom, havoc os, pixel experience etc, yet no rom left me satisfied as far as the battery is concerned.
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I have again obtained a better battery result with the original ROM, changing it for a NOHON. But I think that the latest version of original ROM has excessive drainage. I think a Nohon + custom Rom battery can solve our problem. Have you changed the battery for a Nohon?
Of all those ROMS you tried, did any give you better results?
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I have again obtained a better battery result with the original ROM, changing it for a NOHON. But I think that the latest version of original ROM has excessive drainage. I think a Nohon + custom Rom battery can solve our problem. Have you changed the battery for a Nohon?
Of all those ROMS you tried, did any give you better results?
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I'm pretty sure the results were almost identical with all roms I've tried, sadly.
I've changed my battery like a month ago with an original one, not NOHON, so it's practically brand new. Yet the battery still drains like mad even with the screen closed. It's just unbelievable. I really have no clue as to what to do anymore.
narutog7 said:
I'm pretty sure the results were almost identical with all roms I've tried, sadly.
I've changed my battery like a month ago with an original one, not NOHON, so it's practically brand new. Yet the battery still drains like mad even with the screen closed. It's just unbelievable. I really have no clue as to what to do anymore.
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Xiaomi does not have original batteries for sale, they are all fake. Fortunately with this brand of battery I can give this mi6 more life. I in your case would try this brand.
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From this moment on I will test 1 or 2 days each ROM that I have mentioned above.
Yeah, i see. Then i don't know what battery i have because i had a technician change it in a shop around my area. Haha.
Then I'll be waiting for news from you. I will also try some other things i guess. It can't stay like this anymore, definitely.
narutog7 said:
Yeah, i see. Then i don't know what battery i have because i had a technician change it in a shop around my area. Haha.
Then I'll be waiting for news from you. I will also try some other things i guess. It can't stay like this anymore, definitely.
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If you want I can tell you where I bought my battery and how to change it.
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If you want I can tell you where I bought my battery and how to change it.
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You can just tell me where you bought it. I ain't such an advanced user to change it myself, sadly. However, i can buy it and give it to my technician so he can change it.
Thanks, appreciate it.
narutog7 said:
You can just tell me where you bought it. I ain't such an advanced user to change it myself, sadly. However, i can buy it and give it to my technician so he can change it.
Thanks, appreciate it.
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If I put the link here, would it violate the forum rules? If so, I would send it to you privately.
Kiwarchie said:
If I put the link here, would it violate the forum rules? If so, I would send it to you privately.
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Let's just do it via private message i guess. Just to be safe. I don't know if it's against the rules either.
narutog7 said:
Let's just do it via private message i guess. Just to be safe. I don't know if it's against the rules either.
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ok. give me a few seconds
narutog7 said:
Hmm, I see. No, I don't play games anymore.
If you see my post above, I said that I've quit all the games I've been playing in the past.
I'm just using normal and social media apps like Facebook, Instagram etc.
Guess I'll give that a try. Did you change the kernel to a custom one or something? Also, what firmware did you flash before installing Quartz?
Or did you just flash a fastboot official ROM then wipe data + cache, and installed Quartz?
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If you wanna use Miui, install Xiaomi Eu Miui 11 stable for mi6. It has the best battery life I've seen on mi6.
Else if you wanna use AOSP/CAF, just wait for Paranoid Android Quartz 4. It's the best daily driver for mi6 right now.
I'm using Xiaomi Eu miui 11 stable right now and I'm so happy with it.
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If you wanna use Miui, install Xiaomi Eu Miui 11 stable for mi6. It has the best battery life I've seen on mi6.
Else if you wanna use AOSP/CAF, just wait for Paranoid Android Quartz 4. It's the best daily driver for mi6 right now.
I'm using Xiaomi Eu miui 11 stable right now and I'm so happy with it.
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Thank you for your answer, i will try it I guess!

Custom ROM for improving battery life and phone expérience.

Hello all !
I recently buy an samsung galaxy s9, I love it because of his size, today all manufacturers are racing for the biggest screen diagonal, but forget about the people who like compact phones.
the only thing I don't like is that the battery doesn't really last. I use some social networks like instagram or whatsapp to chat and the battery is not consistent enough for me, I think. (I uninstalled the bloatware app and made a maximum of optimization).
So I'm thinking about the solution of installing a custom rom. I'm doing some research and I like the pixel experience or the lineageOS.
The reason of my post is to ask you, you who know much better than me, is it really going to increase the duration of use?
Do you have any advice on this ? I read that you have to calibrate the battery after installing a rom but maybe you have other advice, a rom in particular, settings to do ?
For rooting i find this thread in this forum > https://www.thecustomdroid.com/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus-root/
but i got a SM-G960U1 that is not supported..
Thanks you a lot for all ur answer and information good to know XDA members !
Well I have a galaxy S9(5.8" size) and it's running NezukoOS with android 11. Pretty fluid and with light use I can get it to last me all day long, however I turn it off during night. If you really want more battery life, you should considerer using a custom kernel, as that is what is really going to improve battery life. The custom ROM will bring new features and make your phone feel different, but it usually doesn't improves battery life(at least the ones I tried out didn't help battery at all).
Hope this is useful!
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Well I have a galaxy S9(5.8" size) and it's running NezukoOS with android 11. Pretty fluid and with light use I can get it to last me all day long, however I turn it off during night. If you really want more battery life, you should considerer using a custom kernel, as that is what is really going to improve battery life. The custom ROM will bring new features and make your phone feel different, but it usually doesn't improves battery life(at least the ones I tried out didn't help battery at all).
Hope this is useful!
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Very helpful, thanks
Can you recommend a kernel for better battery life?
And another question to NezukoOS or general AOSP roms.. can you unlock the device by pressing the 'invisible' home button on the screen? Is this option still available in these roms?
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PcO7 said:
Very helpful, thanks
Can you recommend a kernel for better battery life?
And another question to NezukoOS or general AOSP roms.. can you unlock the device by pressing the 'invisible' home button on the screen? Is this option still available in these roms?
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I used Nezuko Os and Yes the invisible home button was working for me.. But i switch now from nezuko back to the stock ffirmware cause i love the one ui design etc..
sorry for my bad english Greetings From Germany!!
Well I never used a custom kernel as I didn't had any problems with battery life, but I do know a ROM which comes with a modded kernel. It's call Noble ROM, and brings ONE UI 3 with android 11 to the galaxy S9. I tried it out and it works pretty good, and when you install it you have a modded kernel that will ask you if you want to improve performance or battery life, here is the link if you are interested on it https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-03-2021-sm-n960f-fd-n-sm-g96xf-fd-n.4244747/ However if you prefer the stock Android I can't really help you, but for sure there are a lot of kernels on XDA forums, you just need to search one.
With the 'invisible' button, on all ROMs I tried(EvolutionX, Pixel Experience, HavacOS...) when the screen is off and you press it, the phone turns on, but once the screen is on it dones't work anymore. I didn't miss it actually, because I use navigation gestures, so the only moment I used was to turn it on. I don't know if that answers your question... Also I didn't find any options to modify pressure sensitivity on settings.
If you still have any questions feel free to ask me!
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Well I never used a custom kernel as I didn't had any problems with battery life, but I do know a ROM which comes with a modded kernel. It's call Noble ROM, and brings ONE UI 3 with android 11 to the galaxy S9. I tried it out and it works pretty good, and when you install it you have a modded kernel that will ask you if you want to improve performance or battery life, here is the link if you are interested on it https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-03-2021-sm-n960f-fd-n-sm-g96xf-fd-n.4244747/ However if you prefer the stock Android I can't really help you, but for sure there are a lot of kernels on XDA forums, you just need to search one.
With the 'invisible' button, on all ROMs I tried(EvolutionX, Pixel Experience, HavacOS...) when the screen is off and you press it, the phone turns on, but once the screen is on it dones't work anymore. I didn't miss it actually, because I use navigation gestures, so the only moment I used was to turn it on. I don't know if that answers your question... Also I didn't find any options to modify pressure sensitivity on settings.
If you still have any questions feel free to ask me!
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I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above
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I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above
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VOID zunoo said:
I also tried noble Rome, but every time it was very laggy and the interior assistant almost always crashed. I had to restart my device very often. My phone had also overheated and I uninstalled it again. no matter how often I did a reflash it was always laggy as described above.
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Oh yeah that's bad. My phone also overheated when I tried it however I thought it could be because I overclock it's CPU. My main problem was the camera didn't work almost all times and I needed to restart the phone continuously, so I went back to NezukoOS.
I also liked ONE UI however I don't know if that happened to you but my phone was very slow on ONE UI and animations almost all times were very laggy. That's why I start using AOSP, and also because I really like the new features.
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Oh yeah that's bad. My phone also overheated when I tried it however I thought it could be because I overclock it's CPU. My main problem was the camera didn't work almost all times and I needed to restart the phone continuously, so I went back to NezukoOS.
I also liked ONE UI however I don't know if that happened to you but my phone was very slow on ONE UI and animations almost all times were very laggy. That's why I start using AOSP, and also because I really like the new features.
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I am also considering whether I should stay with aosp or go back to the sttock firmware. Both have advantages and disadvantages
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I am also considering whether I should stay with aosp or go back to the sttock firmware. Both have advantages and disadvantages
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I don't bo back because of various reasons. First and more important, it's starting to be obsolete and Android 12 is going to be released in August I think, which makes android 10 be 2 years old. Also this customs ROMs give a lot of features that I don't find on the original ONE UI, like caffeine. Finally, performance. My phone was slow and laggy on stock firmware but now its super fast, as if it was brand new. Hope this help you decide.
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I don't bo back because of various reasons. First and more important, it's starting to be obsolete and Android 12 is going to be released in August I think, which makes android 10 be 2 years old. Also this customs ROMs give a lot of features that I don't find on the original ONE UI, like caffeine. Finally, performance. My phone was slow and laggy on stock firmware but now its super fast, as if it was brand new. Hope this help you decide.
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Right. I just reinstalled nezuko os. It actually runs a lot smoother!!
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Right. I just reinstalled nezuko os. It actually runs a lot smoother!!
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Yeah I imagine that would happen. Glad to know we have one more user on this ROM
Wow very nice posts of all of you guys thanks a lot.
What do you think about arrow os? I am undetermined which one i should give a try. I prefer a very clean and hardly debloated os.
Some experiences?
I dont like the Samsung stuff so i'd like to try aosp. I think i can live without volte and wifi call
No problem! Glad to know that this is useful.
I tried Arrow OS however I used it only for 2 days. The ROM was good and seem to be stable however it didn't have a function which for me was crucial, smart charging (charges your phone only to 80% to slow down its degradation) so I went back to NezukoOS. Arrow OS and AOSP are in general don't have bloatware and useless applications preinstalled however if you don't want a lot of features PixelExpirience(not the plus version) is going to be good for you. It's simple, very smooth and almost identical to a Google Pixel experience. LineageOS and ArrowOS however have more features built-in.
Hope this helps you choose!
PcO7 said:
Wow very nice posts of all of you guys thanks a lot.
What do you think about arrow os? I am undetermined which one i should give a try. I prefer a very clean and hardly debloated os.
Some experiences?
I dont like the Samsung stuff so i'd like to try aosp. I think i can live without volte and wifi call
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