Hi, my first post for the Moto 360.
I'm thinking of buying the current model for me and my wife since they are being discounted at a good price to make room for the new ones. We basically want to use it for fit, Google fit.
Does your phone need to be on you for the Google fit to work on the Moto 360? Will it need WIFI to work and I've read the update for WIFI has been put on hold until Moto works out some problems with the update with Google?
I walk a lot at work and we are not allow to have our cell phones on us. But I wanted to be able to keep track of how many steps and etc. I would like for Google fit to work on the watch without having to have my phone on me.
Thanks in advance!
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jcarlm said:
Hi, my first post for the Moto 360.
I'm thinking of buying the current model for me and my wife since they are being discounted at a good price to make room for the new ones. We basically want to use it for fit, Google fit.
Does your phone need to be on you for the Google fit to work on the Moto 360? Will it need WIFI to work and I've read the update for WIFI has been put on hold until Moto works out some problems with the update with Google?
I walk a lot at work and we are not allow to have our cell phones on us. But I wanted to be able to keep track of how many steps and etc. I would like for Google fit to work on the watch without having to have my phone on me.
Thanks in advance!
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It will do heart rate and steps with no phone.
At some point you will need the phone but it will store steps and heart rate on the watch with no issues.
jcarlm said:
Hi, my first post for the Moto 360.
I'm thinking of buying the current model for me and my wife since they are being discounted at a good price to make room for the new ones. We basically want to use it for fit, Google fit.
Does your phone need to be on you for the Google fit to work on the Moto 360? Will it need WIFI to work and I've read the update for WIFI has been put on hold until Moto works out some problems with the update with Google?
I walk a lot at work and we are not allow to have our cell phones on us. But I wanted to be able to keep track of how many steps and etc. I would like for Google fit to work on the watch without having to have my phone on me.
Thanks in advance!
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You do not need your phone with you for Fit to count steps. Once the phone re-syncs with the watch your steps will be synced to fit. I have tried this and it works just fine, but there are some issues with the Fit app itself.
Last night I did a run on a treadmill for the first time with my watch on and my phone just sitting on the treadmill . When I opened up the Fit app my step count was about what it was before my treadmill run. However when I went to the bar graph of the steps taken by hour all of my steps were showing up in there. If I added up the totals though out the day I was off by several thousand steps. I have two apps the report off the Google Fit stats - Driver watchface and it was picking up all the steps in its totals as well as Cinch and it was picking up the steps correctly. I went in and added an activity to Google Fit and it then added the steps to the daily total and did not change the step counts in the bar graph. I still had about 500 more steps in the bar graph that I had in the totals and I assume this is from times when I left my phone sitting in the house and I was walking around.
So it is not perfect, but it looks like it is an app issue with Google Fit and hopefully they can fix it sooner rather than later.
Hi everyone had the watch for 2 weeks now as an upgrade to the Huawei talkband B2. Firstly i love the look of the watch and the screen is superb but for the money i expected a little bit better. The talkband B2 counted my steps accurately, it knew when i was riding my bike without doing anything, it tracked my sleep accurately. The all singing all dancing Huawei watch does not track sleep why?. The report of steps between google fit on my xiaomi mi5 differs massively from the watch as the watch counts biking as walking which is poor to say the least. The only other issue i have encountered so far is compatibility issues between google and dual sim phones, so for example asking google to send sms to someone works until it comes to sending and it cant differentiate between sims so you need to allow it to send on your phone which sort of defeats the object. The only way i can get it to work is to prioritise sims which then routes any call through 1 sim again sort of defeats the object of a dual sim phone as i want to choose which sim to send it on. Also cards from google re appearing even though they have been dismissed earlier seems to happen quite often. Still love this watch its stylish and the build quality is excellent so hoping someone can help me or future updates from Huawei and Google address my concern.
It could be just me....but i noticed on the last rom i was on it kept lagging on me and acting all sorts of weird i finally updated the ROM and watch works great now.
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It also could just be me, but I find the watch grossly misses my steps, compared to my Fitbit Charge HR, Gear S2, and iWatch. It usually lags behind by 1500 -2000 steps at the end of the day. I have taken 100 steps and none were detected and then repeated it with exaggerating my arm swing and it picked up about 60%. I'm a small guy, but that should not matter I would think. Would love to get rid of my Fitbit Charge HR, but can't relay on my HW Watch accurately counting my steps with normal walking and activity.
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Hi everyone had the watch for 2 weeks now as an upgrade to the Huawei talkband B2. Firstly i love the look of the watch and the screen is superb but for the money i expected a little bit better. The talkband B2 counted my steps accurately, it knew when i was riding my bike without doing anything, it tracked my sleep accurately. The all singing all dancing Huawei watch does not track sleep why?. The report of steps between google fit on my xiaomi mi5 differs massively from the watch as the watch counts biking as walking which is poor to say the least. The only other issue i have encountered so far is compatibility issues between google and dual sim phones, so for example asking google to send sms to someone works until it comes to sending and it cant differentiate between sims so you need to allow it to send on your phone which sort of defeats the object. The only way i can get it to work is to prioritise sims which then routes any call through 1 sim again sort of defeats the object of a dual sim phone as i want to choose which sim to send it on. Also cards from google re appearing even though they have been dismissed earlier seems to happen quite often. Still love this watch its stylish and the build quality is excellent so hoping someone can help me or future updates from Huawei and Google address my concern.
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It will track sleep if you have the app Sleep with Android.
Hey I got one of these to do some hacking on - well, I got several of them, because taking one apart is very much a one-way trip.
As posted elsewhere, it's made of:
A 128x32 white OLED ( cdn-shop.adafruit.com/datasheets/UG-2832HSWEG02.pdf )
NRF51822 BLE chip (16K ram version)
Atmel ATmega16U2 (I assume to read the accelerometer at low power, but it also has USB - which appears to not be connected to the USB port unfortunately)
An accelerometer (STM C3H)
Azoteq IQS263 touch sensor (senses swipes and taps)
24C256 EEPROM connected to the Atmel
75mAh Lipo
..and some other stuff like a Lipo charger, vibration motor etc.
Typical cost is $15-$20 on ebay etc.
The cap-touch screen is quite good - detects swipes and taps reliably.
It's very well sealed - completely closed plastic molding. It looks to be fully waterproof to me.
Well... waterproof until I took a hacksaw to it. There's no way to disassemble it other than to (carefully) hacksaw/dremel the case open. Mine is still working fine, albeit in pieces..
I didn't see many photos of the guts online (just a couple) so or anyone else planning to hack on firmware for it, I found very convenient SWD and UART testpoints (under the OLED)...
Was figuring I might be able to find the time to do some alt firmware for it, because I quite like that Nordic chip, and it's a pretty decent waterproof BLE wrist-display with reasonable battery life (~7days people have said) and touch-sensor at a very attractive price.
I'll let you know what else I figure out about the hardware but first some teardown pics;
FULL PICS:
(oh man **** this forum not letting me post URLs... ok whatever, you figure this out..)
imgur.com/a/qTrSN
Samples images attached...
NOTE that test test points "RESET" and "CLK" are regular Cortex M0 SWDIO and SWDCLK, so just bust out the ST-Link/J-Link and have at it. Nice to have UART TX+RX too. Very civilized.
If I have time to get further into it I'll post more hw details on here.
Cheers,
DrTune
Yep J-Link works fine
Nice, works fine connected to a J-Link, can program it with NRFgo Studio, debug with Keil uVision, etc. Cake.
Ok when I have a sec I'll do some custom firmware for this thing, personally I'm going to use it as a user interface for a GPS+radio project for Burning Man - the I5+ should be perfect for the Playa as it's completely sealed, has vibration, decent battery life, nice OLED.
I really like this bracelet as a programmable toy - nice CPU, great price. I doubt I'll ever get around to programming the Atmel in there or using the accelerometer (it's not what I'm after) but as a two-way messaging device it should fit the bill nicely.
Well done my friend! Can't wait to see what you will come out with! Cheers
Do something perfect ? thank you
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Hm just thinking about it there's quite a lot of fun little things you can do with a cheap watch w/touch sensor that vibrates that are a bit awkward to do with a phone... bear in mind I'm super busy (I do this kinda thing for a living) and the BLE range is probably pretty poor, but...
a) Finder for those absurdly cheap ($3 or so) "finder" keyfobs, just display RSSI (signal strength) and it'd be somewhat useful; at least to give you a "warmer/colder" feedback on your distance to the tag.
b) Vibrate when your friend comes into range (or any BLE device that's advertising) and let you send simple emoticon messages (again the range won't be great, but enough for when you're in a bar or whatever), kinda like a really basic emoticon walkie-talkie. This would suck down quite a lot of battery (b/c of scanning for advertising packets) but it's a thought
c) some sort of basic morse-code style tapping messager
d) unlock your front door (use any old BLE device, e.g. a $4 CC2541 BLE-to-serial dongle hooked up to a FET or a relay)
e) assuming I can sort out reading the accelerometer, you've got basically a button/slider (the touchscreen) plus a very rough motion sensor; maybe make it a GATT HCI device like a mouse or keyboard (not sure what the OS support is like for those but it's doable)
f) You could certainly interface it to a Banana Pi (with a CSR BLE dongle) or a C.H.I.P. (which has built-in BLE)...
g) then there's all the stuff you can do with modern android/iOS phones and BLE; caller ID etc etc - much of this is covered by the current IWOWN firmware... Haven't look at it a huge amount but there's sure to be some fun stuff not yet done by the stock fw...
h) Depending what OSes have HID-over-GATT keyboard support, you could tap your watch to enter passwords (fairly insecurely, but hey it's a fun hack)..
i) Trivial to make the thing act as an Apple iBeacon (or any vendor beacon really, it's just a custom advertising packet) - and that would have excellent battery life. You could make it a beacon detector also but the battery life would suck horribly (I guess you could tap the watch to scan and it could buzz when it found an iBeacon and display some txt from it )
j) BLE scanner, probably most useful to have it scan for specific GATT profiles or ad packets or MAC address ranges or whatever; same battery life caveat applies but there might be a fun application.
...there's a lot of simple projects basically, it's quite a nice toy in some limited ways.... well like I say I don't have time to implement a lot of this but if I can stick some code up on Github maybe people will take the ball and run with it...
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Hm just thinking about it there's quite a lot of fun little things you can do with a cheap watch w/touch sensor that vibrates that are a bit awkward to do with a phone... bear in mind I'm super busy (I do this kinda thing for a living) and the BLE range is probably pretty poor, but...
a) Finder for those absurdly cheap ($3 or so) "finder" keyfobs, just display RSSI (signal strength) and it'd be somewhat useful; at least to give you a "warmer/colder" feedback on your distance to the tag.
b) Vibrate when your friend comes into range (or any BLE device that's advertising) and let you send simple emoticon messages (again the range won't be great, but enough for when you're in a bar or whatever), kinda like a really basic emoticon walkie-talkie. This would suck down quite a lot of battery (b/c of scanning for advertising packets) but it's a thought
c) some sort of basic morse-code style tapping messager
d) unlock your front door (use any old BLE device, e.g. a $4 CC2541 BLE-to-serial dongle hooked up to a FET or a relay)
e) assuming I can sort out reading the accelerometer, you've got basically a button/slider (the touchscreen) plus a very rough motion sensor; maybe make it a GATT HCI device like a mouse or keyboard (not sure what the OS support is like for those but it's doable)
f) You could certainly interface it to a Banana Pi (with a CSR BLE dongle) or a C.H.I.P. (which has built-in BLE)...
g) then there's all the stuff you can do with modern android/iOS phones and BLE; caller ID etc etc - much of this is covered by the current IWOWN firmware... Haven't look at it a huge amount but there's sure to be some fun stuff not yet done by the stock fw...
...there's a lot of simple projects basically, it's quite a nice toy in some limited ways.... well like I say I don't have time to implement a lot of this but if I can stick some code up on Github maybe people will take the ball and run with it...
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Actually i don't think that there will be anyone who doing after you so i ask you to do some of them. Another question the screen has to coler white and blue can we change it i really like white one
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Errrr.. no the OLED is whatever color it is. It's a cheap monochrome OLED. The only way you could change it is to take the device apart and there's no way you can ever put it back together properly again (it's solid molded plastic)
Nice work.
if it's any help.
Softdevice and bootloader i5PLus.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uc5ugaqrjcg58w3/i5plus_softdevice.hex
http://www.mediafire.com/download/z3oe2544uayec6h/bootloader.hex
thx but the Nordic publicly available stuff is fine. I pulled the firmware etc from mine and reflashed it already. There's nothing difficult or problematic, just a case of finding time to do new fw (and I'm super busy)
There was a distant feature in oldest firmware but they removed many asked to get it back can you do it in your firmware ☺
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by "distant feature" do you mean distance, i.e. it tracked how far you have walked/run? I can see how that would be unreliable, there's just an accelerometer in there and you can't really figure out distance from that. Accelerometers just tell you which way is down (i.e. they measure gravity) plus the acceleration/deceleration as you move it around. So, they're ok for detecting walking, better for running, but not good for figuring out how far you've actually travelled, the best it could really do is just guess from the number of footsteps it detected, which is going to be pretty inaccurate.
In general I'm not planning to do anything with the accelerometer (I doubt I'll have time), I'm thinking about using the I5 for other things like radio messaging and as a phone peripheral.
I don't expect to produce anything that duplicates the current firmware in terms of function, I want to do completely different things. Once I've written some code I'm happy to put it on github (which will have basic stuff like driving the OLED, reading the touch sensor, using the BLE radio etc) and maybe someone else will build some firmware that works as a fitness tracker.
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by "distant feature" do you mean distance, i.e. it tracked how far you have walked/run? I can see how that would be unreliable, there's just an accelerometer in there and you can't really figure out distance from that. Accelerometers just tell you which way is down (i.e. they measure gravity) plus the acceleration/deceleration as you move it around. So, they're ok for detecting walking, better for running, but not good for figuring out how far you've actually travelled, the best it could really do is just guess from the number of footsteps it detected, which is going to be pretty inaccurate.
In general I'm not planning to do anything with the accelerometer (I doubt I'll have time), I'm thinking about using the I5 for other things like radio messaging and as a phone peripheral.
I don't expect to produce anything that duplicates the current firmware in terms of function, I want to do completely different things. Once I've written some code I'm happy to put it on github (which will have basic stuff like driving the OLED, reading the touch sensor, using the BLE radio etc) and maybe someone else will build some firmware that works as a fitness tracker.
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Really it doesn't need any adding or creating for it. Just like calorie and step measure it was measuring km. You just need to get it from old firm and add it to the new one ?
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Right, and without even having seen it I can tell you it won't work very well at all, because (...see above info about accellerometers and distance tracking).
Like I said I'm not planning to support any of this stuff.
If you personally want to "just get it from old firm and add it to new one" go for it!
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Right, and without even having seen it I can tell you it won't work very well at all, because (...see above info about accellerometers and distance tracking).
Like I said I'm not planning to support any of this stuff.
If you personally want to "just get it from old firm and add it to new one" go for it!
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Well done bro thank u for your work i hope to see it soon
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@drtune
The reason why we're "clinging" on you is because you seem to be the only one here who can really play with these things at a developer level. With the Chinese manufacturer not caring about the abroad markets (they did not release the v2.x firmware and the "full" v3 Android app outside of China), we're kinda stuck.
I, for one, do not regret spending $16 on this thing at all. v2.0.1.8 firmware - customly flashed thanks to @roninzgz's thread - brings everything I was hoping for (vertical display and the ability to keep the time synchronized even while turned off), albeit with the trade-off of a slightly less responsive touchscreen. For crying out loud, I have Fitbit sporting coworkers that are envious at what this bracelet can do for its price. Their only hope is that mine will eventually break or fry due to poor manufacturing quality.
With all that going for us, getting you aboard would be a bit too much luck. Thank you for all the research and here's to hoping that someone will pick up from what you will share. *raises beer*
Sure, thanks.
I do this stuff for a living (not actually fitness trackers, but embedded systems hardware/software) so I have all the equipment and experience to make this a fun little project ; on the minus side I have quite a backlog of paying work to finish so taking time off that (and my family) to do this feels like I'm playing hooky from school
Anyway, like I say I have a pet project for this wristband in mind - and it doesn't really involve it doing much of what the existing firmware does - but at least I'm mildly committed to it now (ordered another six I5+'s and have one gutted and wired up for debugging here).
For anyone wanting to play with building new firmware you'll basically just need a hacksawed-open I5+ and a $4 ST-Link programmer; it would be interminably boring trying to debug by downloading new code OTA each time you make a change. Obviously once one has something reasonably ready to test it's easy enough to package it so it can be downloaded by other people with the regular Nordic OTA tool.
I can imagine it'd be possible to have an error in the firmware that bricked a device, but you'd put some reasonable safeguards in there wherever possible - really it's just about doing your best to ensure a user can get it back into an OTA-programmable state again.
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Sure, thanks.
I do this stuff for a living (not actually fitness trackers, but embedded systems hardware/software) so I have all the equipment and experience to make this a fun little project ; on the minus side I have quite a backlog of paying work to finish so taking time off that (and my family) to do this feels like I'm playing hooky from school
Anyway, like I say I have a pet project for this wristband in mind - and it doesn't really involve it doing much of what the existing firmware does - but at least I'm mildly committed to it now (ordered another six I5+'s and have one gutted and wired up for debugging here).
For anyone wanting to play with building new firmware you'll basically just need a hacksawed-open I5+ and a $4 ST-Link programmer; it would be interminably boring trying to debug by downloading new code OTA each time you make a change. Obviously once one has something reasonably ready to test it's easy enough to package it so it can be downloaded by other people with the regular Nordic OTA tool.
I can imagine it'd be possible to have an error in the firmware that bricked a device, but you'd put some reasonable safeguards in there wherever possible - really it's just about doing your best to ensure a user can get it back into an OTA-programmable state again.
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Drtune did you done anything ?
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Not yet have a ton of work on right now and will be busy for a while on that - just very short of time right now.
Honestly don't expect anything useful to you as a consumer any time soon; when I get some code done (which will be for my project and not directly useful to an end-user) I'll post on here and github.
Hi,
Does anyone know if it's possible to customize this device and turn it into a ibeacon?
I'm looking for a wristband that is able to switch between On/Off which enable the device to broadcast iBeacon signal.
I'm looking for somebody who can help me with it, i'm willing to pay a small fee for his expertise
(I'd like to learn how to code a firmware of this device too)
Thanks
What am i trying to do?
I hope to develop a solution where i will like to enable Teens to have a SOS button on their wristband. It would then be able to code a android/iphone app that would listen for such signal, if the ibeacon signal is on their range, it will alert the mobile user that there's a surround person is facing danger.
Current wristband that i found would require user to pair it with a phone, i'm looking at broadcasting feature instead.
If any developer is able to do this for me, please PM me i'd pay a fee for your expertise.
Yes the I5 (or, even cheaper, a TW64 watch) can do simple iBeacon (or similar) advertising, it's not difficult..
However you are making two very common mistakes; scanning for BLE devices uses as lot of power so no mobile OSes will let you do it all the time (for good reason). Everyone overlooks this and it's a huge issue.
Secondly the range of BLE is very limited.
I am not interested in doing this for you (I don't work for small fees) but it's not a difficult task for someone who knows what they're doing.
I just purchased my first ever smart watch and did I make a good choice? I'm not a fitness junkey so this will be more of a watch/notification watch. Any tips that you guys have will greatly be appreciated.
Perhaps not. Samsung have made the watch half useless if you intended to just use it as a daily watch to get your call notifications. Not so long ago, all Samsung Gear S3 and Galaxy Watch users stopped receiving incoming Skype and Whatsapp call/video call notifications on their watches. I took the issue to Samsung personally and I got told this fairytale that their watches have never been receiving such notifications. As a long-time user of their watches, I know that to be a load of hogwash. So, up to you but I'd recommend returning it and get something else. It's not like receiving those notifications isn't a core function of the watch, or something. In fact, it's sometimes the only reason any of us buy it in the first place. It's also a function that any other watch can do effortlessly.
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Perhaps not. Samsung have made the watch half useless if you intended to just use it as a daily watch to get your call notifications. Not so long ago, all Samsung Gear S3 and Galaxy Watch users stopped receiving incoming Skype and Whatsapp call/video call notifications on their watches. I took the issue to Samsung personally and I got told this fairytale that their watches have never been receiving such notifications. As a long-time user of their watches, I know that to be a load of hogwash. So, up to you but I'd recommend returning it and get something else. It's not like receiving those notifications isn't a core function of the watch, or something. In fact, it's sometimes the only reason any of us buy it in the first place. It's also a function that any other watch can do effortlessly.
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I currently have the s9 and yesterday I ordered the galaxy watch and the iconx(2018) headphones together. It only made sense to order everything Samsung. But if you're suggesting returning the product, what would you recommend getting?
I know you mentioned you're not a fitness fanatic but I'll just throw this one at you, try the Fitbit Ionic. It does the important stuff and it looks good. I say that with hesitation because 'looks' becomes subjective, however, technically the watch functions rather well and excels in some areas.
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I have the galaxy watch now after having previous versions. I get Skype and WhatsApp notifications. I think the access to calls texts and emails is great. One thing you will have to search for is watch faces that have what you need on the watch face to make them easy to access.
I dont use Skype and wouldn't touch Whatsapp so I can't comment on those. Stair climbing has never worked because of the 10 ft algorithm Samsung uses but the rest of the fitness functions and GPS on my Galaxy are right on. I use them multiple times a week at the gym and they're spot on. My heart rate will match with the machines always within 1 or 2 bpm. The only thing I compare it to is my previous Fitbit and my wife's Fitbit. Fitbit makes crap and I'll never buy their junk again. Their fitness trackers are a joke so before you buy, make an account there and read through their community posts.
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I dont use Skype and wouldn't touch Whatsapp so I can't comment on those. Stair climbing has never worked because of the 10 ft algorithm Samsung uses but the rest of the fitness functions and GPS on my Galaxy are right on. I use them multiple times a week at the gym and they're spot on. My heart rate will match with the machines always within 1 or 2 bpm. The only thing I compare it to is my previous Fitbit and my wife's Fitbit. Fitbit makes crap and I'll never buy their junk again. Their fitness trackers are a joke so before you buy, make an account there and read through their community posts.
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Very honest opinion.. and i would add that sometimes when i ride a bike it counts as i m doing cycling
cwb1231 said:
I have the galaxy watch now after having previous versions. I get Skype and WhatsApp notifications. I think the access to calls texts and emails is great. One thing you will have to search for is watch faces that have what you need on the watch face to make them easy to access.
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Is there a way to get free watch faces kinda like paid apps for free?
Tel864 said:
I dont use Skype and wouldn't touch Whatsapp so I can't comment on those. Stair climbing has never worked because of the 10 ft algorithm Samsung uses but the rest of the fitness functions and GPS on my Galaxy are right on. I use them multiple times a week at the gym and they're spot on. My heart rate will match with the machines always within 1 or 2 bpm. The only thing I compare it to is my previous Fitbit and my wife's Fitbit. Fitbit makes crap and I'll never buy their junk again. Their fitness trackers are a joke so before you buy, make an account there and read through their community posts.
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So stick to the Samsung watch?
RussianSolja said:
Is there a way to get free watch faces kinda like paid apps for free?
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Yes, there are plenty of free watch faces on Galaxy Apps and if you don't find what you want you can try apps like facer or watchmaker, plus if you want it you could use the Galaxy Watch Designer app on your pc to make your custom watch faces.
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RussianSolja said:
So stick to the Samsung watch?
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I would say that it's something only you can answer.
For me the galaxy watch is great because it fits all my needs.
I get all the notifications I really need from work, family and friends and I can answer them but it's mostly calls, emails and WhatsApp messages(I do check out the notifications from social media but only to see if It can be interesting to check on the phone or pc).
It also tracks all the workout I do and I can store all the music I need for it so I can go out and do it without any need of my phone.
I know people that need less things from a smartwatch and could do fine with a less expensive one from any other brand, meanwhile other people need or want to use some apps that don't work great with a Samsung watch and choose either a android or apple watch to make it work better with the phone they have.
You should check what you want from a smartwatch and look if a Samsung watch is really what suits your needs.
Feel free to ask more things if you want.
I had several different models. S3 was too big for my hand and stopped working three times. In addition, Samsug's heart rate measurement is bad, you can not measure the heart rate and walk. FitBit is great for fitness but is ugly. There is not too much apps, you can not personalize the watch too much. Some activities recorded only after 10 minutes. My husband has a Garmin tactix and that's the best watch I've ever seen. Unfortunately, the watch is too big for my tight hand. The battery is much better, heart rate measurement is more precise, sleep tracking is better.... I'm impressed
The 1 problem I had with all other watches was i couldn't go all day on a charge with everything turned on.
This one does. Nuff said. For that, it's worth it.