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I heard there was a problem with stability issues before. Has it been fixed?
Also, do any of you guys feel the need to OC in the first place?
iArtisan said:
I heard there was a problem with stability issues before. Has it been fixed?
Also, do any of you guys feel the need to OC in the first place?
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I tried OC'ing to 1,4 for a short time, didnt get any instabilities.
Which leads me to question two. No I don't feel the need to OC this phone, it is still good enough to cope with everything i throw at it.
The worst that will happen is that it will run a little hotter than normal. I was running Trinity Kernel on RasCream ROM clocked at 1.5GHz and it was fine, nothing crashed, no reboots, all was well.
Besides; It's a Nexus, it was built for this!
This varies for everyone
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Meh. It all varies. No 2 chipsets are the same. What may work for someone else may not work for you. Trial and error is the only surefire way to find out.
Hi,
I agree with what has been said above, all the CPU's are not equal but actually the progress made by the kernel devs allows all (or almost) phones to run at 1.3* Ghz (1.34/1.35 Ghz, it depends of the kernel) without any issues.I think it's for all, actually I don't remember a user with issues at 1.3* Ghz...
And for most phones 1.5 Ghz is fine.For some others, above 1.5 Ghz is problematic but it depends also of too many factors.
Now it's not like it when the Genx came out, where 1.3 Ghz was the limit of CPU overclock for all the phones.
And many people can run stable at 1.65 Ghz, also it depends of the kernel.
For me for example my max CPU freq usable each day, so stable is 1.72 Ghz with Glados kernel, above (like 1.8 Ghz) it runs fine for 30 mins, sometimes 1 hour, but after always freeze/reboot... maybe my CPU can't reach this CPU freq or maybe my settings are wrong (voltage) ...
I agree, an extreme overclock like 1.72 Ghz is not really necessary for all day (heat, battery life, etc...) but a little overclock like 1.5/1.53 Ghz and you a difference in certain case (openning some apps, general UI, browsing, etc...).
But if we have the ability to test and play...why not... ,in any case for me it's yes, I like overclock and test the possibilities/limits of my phone, different settings...
Everyone does as he wants and it depends on what you want (battery life,a little more power in some situation like playing or a higher bench score ).
Well considering Texas instruments recommended highest clock speed for this processor is 1.5 ghz I'd say your fine. Anything above that is dependent on how well your chip set will handle it. Besides who honestly has needed to OC for anything other than benchmarks?
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I'm really confused by HTC advertisement
As we all have known, the HOX comes with a Tegra3 Quad-Core CPU 1,5Ghz
But in some HTC One X Catalog provided by HTC, they say that the HOX has one more core to manage the performance and power to increase the battery life of the device
Can anyone confirm this info? It is really confusing
Yes. The phone has a 1.5 GHz quad core processor. It also has a single companion core which it offloads to for low power. Usually when deep sleeping
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mr1029x said:
I'm really confused by HTC advertisement
As we all have known, the HOX comes with a Tegra3 Quad-Core CPU 1,5Ghz
But in some HTC One X Catalog provided by HTC, they say that the HOX has one more core to manage the performance and power to increase the battery life of the device
Can anyone confirm this info? It is really confusing
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Yes, the hox has 5 cores. The last one is a low power core. It is running only when performance is not needed and when the other cores are disable. His goal is saving power.
mr1029x said:
I'm really confused by HTC advertisement
As we all have known, the HOX comes with a Tegra3 Quad-Core CPU 1,5Ghz
But in some HTC One X Catalog provided by HTC, they say that the HOX has one more core to manage the performance and power to increase the battery life of the device
Can anyone confirm this info? It is really confusing
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As people stated here, yes, it has 5 cores. 4 full power cores for harder processes. This is why it's called quad-core. But there's another, "small" one, which is called the Ninja core. It's active when there are no CPU extensive tasks, it eats less battery (smaller consumption) than the "big" ones.
Sounds really nice, although I'm unsure how useful it is. I found different opinions on it. Obviously Nvidia says it's a really cool thing to have, but other people state it's useless, since it's almost always off, others say it's making the things worse, since sometimes it tries to perform tasks, but it's too weak, so the things are slower with it than without it. But as I sad, I don't know, these are just opinions.
FYI the core swithing thingly is hardware control rather than software, less prone to programming mistakes..
Yod-b said:
As people stated here, yes, it has 5 cores. 4 full power cores for harder processes. This is why it's called quad-core. But there's another, "small" one, which is called the Ninja core. It's active when there are no CPU extensive tasks, it eats less battery (smaller consumption) than the "big" ones.
Sounds really nice, although I'm unsure how useful it is. I found different opinions on it. Obviously Nvidia says it's a really cool thing to have, but other people state it's useless, since it's almost always off, others say it's making the things worse, since sometimes it tries to perform tasks, but it's too weak, so the things are slower with it than without it. But as I sad, I don't know, these are just opinions.
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I think the ninja core is what accounts for the INSANE standby time HOX can have.
Yod-b said:
As people stated here, yes, it has 5 cores. 4 full power cores for harder processes. This is why it's called quad-core. But there's another, "small" one, which is called the Ninja core. It's active when there are no CPU extensive tasks, it eats less battery (smaller consumption) than the "big" ones.
Sounds really nice, although I'm unsure how useful it is. I found different opinions on it. Obviously Nvidia says it's a really cool thing to have, but other people state it's useless, since it's almost always off, others say it's making the things worse, since sometimes it tries to perform tasks, but it's too weak, so the things are slower with it than without it. But as I sad, I don't know, these are just opinions.
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Yeah I think it's quite useful when the HOX is in standby mode or opening small applications. If there are some how the developers can active this core as well as the other 4 in gaming than the game will be a little bit more smoother. Am I right?
nVidia officially call it a '4+1' processor
We've got two clusters in the Tegra 3 SoC.
One is the "G" Cluster, containing 4 cores, and the other one is the "LP" Cluster, containing one core, called "Companion Core" (or also, someone likes calling it "Ninja Core", fugly and inappropriate IMHO).
The cluster switching is not made by hardware, but by software.... if you don't believe that, go watch into the kernel source
...oh and...yeah, nVidia calls it "4-PLUS-1 architecture".
@mr1029x
Absolutely not: you won't have any improvement by activating the LP core for normal operation.
@death__machine
Did you know that the companion core is practically the same of the other cores in the G cluster?
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kholk said:
We've got two clusters in the Tegra 3 SoC.
One is the "G" Cluster, containing 4 cores, and the other one is the "LP" Cluster, containing one core, called "Companion Core" (or also, someone likes calling it "Ninja Core", fugly and inappropriate IMHO).
The cluster switching is not made by hardware, but by software.... if you don't believe that, go watch into the kernel source
...oh and...yeah, nVidia calls it "4-PLUS-1 architecture".
@mr1029x
Absolutely not: you won't have any improvement by activating the LP core for normal operation.
@death__machine
Did you know that the companion core is practically the same of the other cores in the G cluster?
The EternityProject Team Manager & Main Developer,
--kholk
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By practically the same, do you mean the companion* core is underclocked or undervolted (software lock)by nvidia?
If thats the case, its similar to how ATI & Nvidia used to reduce the the performance or even pipelines of their gfx cards via software and we could just flash another fw and unlock it.
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Hello,
I recently got my Galaxy tab S 8.4 LTE with Exynos. However I have some questions. Sometimes i felt a little bit laggy. Is it normal? Also when I use CPU-Z i only see 4 cores instead of 8. -I am sure it is exynos version- Should not this device run all the cores simultaneously?
And i also would like to ask if there is a way to increase the devices overall performance.
Thanks.
jimmywentaway said:
Hello,
I recently got my Galaxy tab S 8.4 LTE with Exynos. However I have some questions. Sometimes i felt a little bit laggy. Is it normal? Also when I use CPU-Z i only see 4 cores instead of 8. -I am sure it is exynos version- Should not this device run all the cores simultaneously?
And i also would like to ask if there is a way to increase the devices overall performance.
Thanks.
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Touchwiz can be a little laggy. You can root your device and freeze or delete a lot of the bloatware. Mines very snappy. Don't experience any lag. I'm still running stock Touchwiz, I just froze all of the bloat which keeps it from starting or running in the background. Also you can flash a custom rom. There's some really good ones available at the moment. Blisspop makes a excellent rom. It would completely get rid of Touchwiz all together.
Exynos is a octacore. However in this tablet it only runs 4 cores at a time. The 1.3 ghz quad core processor runs when your not doing intensive things. So let's say like, browsing the web or watching youtube, checking your mail, etc etc. It uses those to save battery life. Now when more intensive tasks are going on it switches to the 1.9 ghz quad core processor. It's not a true octacore as it only runs 4 cores at a time. However I believe it was the note 3 that had this same processor and there was something called HMP. It allowed the processors to run all 8 cores at once. But us galaxy tab owners do not have that. I don't know if that's something that can be released for this tablet from Samsung. But as of now the device runs on 4 cores at a time and switches back and forth depending on the tasks that are being done.
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Interestingly, I haven't had any problems with "lag" with either the stock GUI or because of the background processes.
I must say that despite using the fancy shmancy octo-core battery saving wizardry, my Tab S falls flat on its face with regards to battery savings. In can probably play HD video for 10 hours straight on a full charge, but I don't know if the device could do 5 hours of web browsing if you visit truly bloated modern web sites, like the kinja blogs. I personally suspect that video and other multimedia are run in power saving mode on the slower cores, but web browsing probably calls for the faster cores in many cases. I am thinking it would be cool of there was a way to force everything to run on the slower cores all the time. When I am out in a library or coffee shop without a charging cable, I would have accepted a slower performance in exchange for a long battery life.
Understood. However i am not sure if things go like that. I mean I open CPU-Z and monitor cpu usage. It is not even stable it goes up to 1600 mhz sometimes even though i just monitor it. I wonder if there is a way to monitor my CPU usage with a background APP so i can see if it is overloaded even with simple tasks such as facebook.
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Interestingly, I haven't had any problems with "lag" with either the stock GUI or because of the background processes.
I must say that despite using the fancy shmancy octo-core battery saving wizardry, my Tab S falls flat on its face with regards to battery savings. In can probably play HD video for 10 hours straight on a full charge, but I don't know if the device could do 5 hours of web browsing if you visit truly bloated modern web sites, like the kinja blogs. I personally suspect that video and other multimedia are run in power saving mode on the slower cores, but web browsing probably calls for the faster cores in many cases. I am thinking it would be cool of there was a way to force everything to run on the slower cores all the time. When I am out in a library or coffee shop without a charging cable, I would have accepted a slower performance in exchange for a long battery life.
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If you're rooted you can use an app such as setcpu to modify cpu settings.
If all it does is switch between 2 quad core chips that has to be the dumbest thing I've heard of. What's the point if it can just step the fast one down in frequency and voltage?
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If all it does is switch between 2 quad core chips that has to be the dumbest thing I've heard of. What's the point if it can just step the fast one down in frequency and voltage?
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Supposedly more efficient with current technology at time of release.
The new 5433 (such as my Note Edge) has true HMP Octa-core processor. So SWEET
Anyone has run a benchmark and noticed that the processor is locked at 1.33? I ran Geek Benchmark and says phone is running x86 and locked at 1.33. I have the 4gb/32gb with the 2.33ghz processor.
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Anyone has run a benchmark and noticed that the processor is locked at 1.33? I ran Geek Benchmark and says phone is running x86 and locked at 1.33. I have the 4gb/32gb with the 2.33ghz processor.
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Same issue here. Still amazing score
Okay, the phone can actually run and runs out of the box at 2.33 GHz.
It seems that there is an inconsistency between the CPU model name in the database & its actual frequency. So more like a typo error in the database.
Check the following screen I took from Antutu:
Later edit: I was thinking of something else when I wrote the reply Antutu just reads the CPU info, and the issue is there, not in a database. So ignore my picture's annotations as well
What you're referring to is burst speed. The CPU can hit 2.3 Ghz in that sense, but will only do so in bursts.
Tomorow I am going to sell my Asus Rog5, so now I want to buy RM6 Pro ...So question is simple are you happy with you phone?
And pros and cons pls
Hello, I know am late on this but do not sell your ROG.. RM6 have lots of software issues. the most am suffering with is they limit it from using full performance! I can't see it using 840mhz on GPU for genshin or ANY game! my friend have ROG 5 and I can see his GPU on SD888 can use full performance. Nubia's software is really not good! I regret buying it.
Ammark93 said:
Hello, I know am late on this but do not sell your ROG.. RM6 have lots of software issues. the most am suffering with is they limit it from using full performance! I can't see it using 840mhz on GPU for genshin or ANY game! my friend have ROG 5 and I can see his GPU on SD888 can use full performance. Nubia's software is really not good! I regret buying it.
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While I agree with RM6's software issues, I'm not so sure about your statements on their GPU performance. I own a standard ROG Phone 5 and I can confirm that GPU speed runs at max speed for the first 5 minutes of playing Genshin, but quickly slows down as the device heats up. This is even with AeroActive Cooler 5 mounted and set to max fan speed. So it's important to also determine and compare sustained GPU performance, which I believe RM6 wins here.
Phone build is good. Spec and features are good but very lacking in the software department. Bugs and errors in lots of parts of the phone. Physically feels good but software feels bad. Runs games well
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While I agree with RM6's software issues, I'm not so sure about your statements on their GPU performance. I own a standard ROG Phone 5 and I can confirm that GPU speed runs at max speed for the first 5 minutes of playing Genshin, but quickly slows down as the device heats up. This is even with AeroActive Cooler 5 mounted and set to max fan speed. So it's important to also determine and compare sustained GPU performance, which I believe RM6 wins here.
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I never.. like never seen the GPU runs at 840mhz, only in antutu. for genshin I see it goes up to 600mhz something when I run the game while the phone is cool, then it drops right away to 540mhz. and keeps like that or lower. and no matter how much I cool it, it never goes above that. I used their new cooler.. and I put the device in front of AC that it got so cold. yet still never gone above 540mhz.. even the CPU stuck at 2.4.. how is this not an issue? I just want to use the full performance. I had RM5 G and I used the rom they provided here to boost the GPU to 940mhz, it was doing better than this one.. I'll never buy a phone from Nubia ever again. next time I'll just get the ROG.
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I never.. like never seen the GPU runs at 840mhz, only in antutu. for genshin I see it goes up to 600mhz something when I run the game while the phone is cool, then it drops right away to 540mhz. and keeps like that or lower. and no matter how much I cool it, it never goes above that. I used their new cooler.. and I put the device in front of AC that it got so cold. yet still never gone above 540mhz.. even the CPU stuck at 2.4.. how is this not an issue? I just want to use the full performance. I had RM5 G and I used the rom they provided here to boost the GPU to 940mhz, it was doing better than this one.. I'll never buy a phone from Nubia ever again. next time I'll just get the ROG.
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My GPU reaching at max frequency probably happened while I was sitting in the start screen or looking straight at the wall but now that I think about it it didn't really maintain for 5 minutes. The Adreno 660 is very power hungry and runs hot this time around for internal and external cooling to matter (hence RM6 has the edge). You can certainly use custom kernel to boost the GPU even higher but I'd worry about phones with limited cooling. Also I've yet to find ROG 5 custom kernel that boosts GPU frequency.
But really the SoC should improve on efficiency aspect as the ROG 3 did really well in peak and sustained performance. There's hope and excitement for the upcoming AMD GPU on mobile but I'm not sure if other vendors will adopt it besides Samsung.