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Would you recommend buying Mi 5S?

I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).

flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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I guess if you already have a Mi 5s Plus, there's no point in getting this since it's very similar, despite one or 2 things

flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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Why not try this Camera mod?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/piximod-camera-mod-devices-kk-lp-mm-n-t3401517

I'm not 100% satisfied with the camera quality, compared to my old Sony Xperia Z1c. I do hope that this will be a little improved with the next global image release. I tend to get not fully sharp images while making pictures of text, as if in the last moment the camera decides to make them a little soft.

patoberli said:
I'm not 100% satisfied with the camera quality, compared to my old Sony Xperia Z1c. I do hope that this will be a little improved with the next global image release. I tend to get not fully sharp images while making pictures of text, as if in the last moment the camera decides to make them a little soft.
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Or you decide to not hold the camera still. It is called camera shake. Try it in full sunlight to force the camera to use a fast shutter speed and then check the sharpness. I bet it is sharp as hell.
My camera makes very good pictures. it is miles ahead of my old Nexus 6p camera.

Trust me, I hold it very still

flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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if xiaomi share the kernel sources of this phone,i recomend you buy this! but no diffrent between mi5s plus and mi5s.both of them has the same hardware.

I was incredibly annoyed with the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor that had 20% hit rate and awkward body shape on mi5s which has buttons almost on the back of the phone, and the camera on mi5s plus. Also the lack of Nougat and Google assistant on both.
Now I have zte axon 7.
Sent from my ZTE A2017G using Tapatalk

zdravke said:
I was incredibly annoyed with the ultrasonic fingerprint sensor that had 20% hit rate and awkward body shape on mi5s which has buttons almost on the back of the phone, and the camera on mi5s plus. Also the lack of Nougat and Google assistant on both.
Now I have zte axon 7.
Sent from my ZTE A2017G using Tapatalk
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The fingerprint hit rate was bad on my Note 5 but not 20%. I just learned to place my finger on the same area/angle and my hit rate went up.
However, if it was raining and some moisture was on the sensor, it would not work well again.
I just think fingerprint technology is still ways away. You don't want to have any false positives so they lean on not able to unlock.

Actually there is a clear quality difference between the "traditional" scanner on my Redmi 4 Pro and the ultra sonic one on my Mi 5s. The hit rate on my Redmi 4 is nearly 100% (although I don't use the phone every day and can't exactly give numbers), but it is more reliable then on my 5s. I don't know though if it's easier to fake the finger on the Redmi than on the 5s.

flipp0 said:
I'm currently using Mi 5S Plus which I like a lot. However, it would be nice to have secondary phone with a smaller footprint and a better rear camera (for stills). Do you guys think it is worth spending $300 on Mi 5S? Is the camera a great improvement over 5S Plus? I find the camera on 5S Plus to be disappointing (other than that, I love this phone).
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I really like the mi5s, but take into account that mine is rooted, I disabled MIUI (memory) optimization, set most of my frequently used apps to be locked so they load near instantly when multitasking etc.
The camera by the way is absolutely excellent - I'm a hobbyist photographer for many years (using 'traditional' real cameras) and this is the first smartphone I've had that is good enough for me to not take my other 'real' camera with me as the photos from the mi5s are really that good. It has a very good optimization of focus accuracy and speed, a pretty good trade off between denoising and sharpening, the white balance is very accurate and the resulting images are sharp consistently across the image, from center to corners.
I'm currently using the EU ROM (7.3.30) and am very happy with the phone.
But, having flashed the lineageOS14.1 unofficial ROM (from April 2017, I d/l it yesterday), I can say that while the mi5s is very fast and all, it can certainly feel snappier in performance when using a more traditional ROM (I tried both lineageOS 14.1 and resurrection remix, both unofficial).
I am sticking with the MIUI rom because the stock camera app is much more reliable for consistently well balanced (white balance, sharpening, and denoising) images with fast focusing, much more than any 3rd party app I tried (manual camera, open camera, google camera (which is supposedly similar to the app used on the Google Pixel), a better camera...).
Hope this helps.

This is the best phone i have so far next to LG G3
Battery really good and much better compared to snapdragon 625 devices
And performances much better than snapdragon 820
Would recommended!
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I've owned this phone for 2 weeks now. I purchased it for £211 so it is very cheap compared to most other flagships on the market. With the price in mind, it's definitely a great bang for your buck phone.
However, be mindful that the camera is bad (good hardware but terrible software) which result in out of focus photos and the fingerprint scanner is fairly slow. I'm sure a few people will chime in to say that the camera is the best they've ever used but you will ready of many, many more instances of people with a negative experience. The front facing camera is absolutely terrible and every single photo I've taken has been out of focus. Before people criticise my photography ability, I am a hobbyist photographer with a 50D and several L series lenses so I know how to take a decent photo.
So anyway, some sacrifices were made given the price tag so if you're ok with those shortcomings then you should definitely buy it.

is this worth to purchse at 300$ price brand new?

I'm contemplating of buying this phone or should I wait for MI 8. The price is very tempting to buy now or should I wait for Mi 8?
The things to consider is I want to try the amoled screen at mi 8. Also I want to have a borderless screen. But is it worth the wait? I'm time limited because the buyer of my current phone will leave next week.
Is the camera quality of the new sensor so good as the mi 6?
I'm torn.

Wait for mi 8 then but mi 6 ?. Seriously this is a really solid device. For the price range we're talking about, mi flagships offer very high value/price rate and don't get deprecated as quickly as the other brands' same price devices.
Camera etc all good and unless you are a freak that counts every pixel in a photo you won't notice any great improvements over this phone on mi 8 or so.
About amoled vs ips lcd, I think they're nearly identical in terms of power usage (in real life, "normal" applications) hence the whites are everywhere, inevitable. Color reproduction of the screen is great here too.
But for borderless screen and having on screen navbar things on a 18:9 phone vs capacitive buttons + 16:9 screen, that's up to you. I don't see any great improvements on user experience with one over two unless we're talking about a serious gesture based ux like on sailfish os devices so I don't care here.
I think the most obvious change between the two is the chipset so decide yourself, whether you want to pay more and get mi 8 or get mi 6 for real cheap (when mi 8 starts to ship). Again expect no dramatical changes between the two chipset as they're both 10 nm architecture.

Wait for mi9, Buy mi6 or just buy the mi2x instead.

Lg g7 Vs Oneplus 6

Hi everyone!
I need to buy a new phone but I'm stuck on choosing between this two phones, LG G7 (for 300€) or Oneplus 6 (for 400€).
I kindly ask you which one is better overall. The only two things I care more are camera quality and software updates.
Thanks for your help!

If you care about software, geet thee oneplus 6.

Camera on the LG g2/g4 is beter then this one..
Software updates sux on LG....
But over all I would have chosen lg g7..

I think the lg g7 is way better than oneplus 6. G7 is a military grade phone. It have ip 68 rating oneplus 6 don't have this. Lg g7 cameras are good too plus u get the second camera as the ultra-wide camera. In my opinion g7 is the best choice

I used to have Oneplus 6 an now Im owning G7.
I prefer G7 - easier to hold it in one hand, wide angle camera and the most important for me is headphne jack with QuadDac.
software updates, customization, forum support is much better for Oneplus.
no matter what you chose, you'll be happy

G7.. Even at full prices. At current prices, no brainer.

Had a 6T prefer the G7. Little things like the vibration motor makes a world of a difference in quality feel for me and the excellent manual mode in the camera. Also G7 feels more solid in build quality and looks sexy as hell in real life. Pictures don't do it justice.

G7 - Better build quality, a better vibration motor, Quad-Dac, Boombox speaker, wide-angle.
6T- Fastest Updates, clean software, the better primary camera then G7, community support, AMOLED, bigger battery.
If you don't care about Quad-Dac, better vibration motor, and a better quality bottom speaker then go with OnePlus 6T.

No wireless charging = no purchase. I also use the headphone jack a lot... even though I yearn for the 6/6T. The G7 was/is the right phone for me.

For me,the Boom Box feature is the main factor to pick the G7..

What if a phone without sd support crash? Can you get into the memory to get your backup? I was happy once I unlucky damaged my phone with broken usb cable, it was unreadable at my computer. but i could recover all files lucky enough and pictures. I don't buy any phone that not support a sd card for that. Don't forget this is the most bright screen of all,one of the better single bottom speakerand and ip 68.
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@zaragon567 , where did you see the G7 for 300 EUR? I just paid over 400 and thought I got a pretty good deal, but I think I can return it within 2 weeks...

Mi 10T Vs Oneplus 8T due to price

In my country Oneplus 8T is 809$ after taxes where's Mi 10T (not the pro version) is 435$ after taxes, which one should i get? Is 8T really worth the higher price?

I tried both, and for the price, I would get the MI 10T
the only difference is the screen and the UI, if you like OLED blacks and are ready to spend 400 more then go for the 8T.
other than that the MI10T is better in battery and main/Selfie camera
to my eyes, the LCD from the MI10T is quite good and almost on par with an OLED

there are huge problem with the mi 10t / pro
proximity sensor no fix yet
loudspeakers mic
DnD
etc

I had the same doubts as you.
Go for Mi 10 T Pro.
After years of using Samsung's and OP's with AMOLED screens I have switched from OP 6T to Mi 10 T Pro and have no regrets. To be honest, my advice would be go to the store first and check does the size of the phone suits you because it's a bit bulky phone, but looking at what you get for the price I don't see reason why to pay almost double the price for OP 8T.
I have read many reviews and my only worry was the screen as it's LCD, but the screen is excellent. The difference is only visible if you put phone with OLED side by side with Mi 10 T, otherwise I can say only the best for it.

Mi 10T Pro or S20FE

I asked the same in the S20FE Forums but thought i'd ask here too.
I'm looking to replace my S10e with a larger phone. It's down to Mi10T Pro or S20FE. I will have to get the Exynos Version of the S20. It seems to be a toss up between the OLED Screen on the Samsung and the easier unlock plus Snapdragon on the Mi10T.
I don't care for cameras too much, i don't consume media on my phone, i know MIUI and OneUI and don't mind either. I've had great experience with Xiaomi and Samsung in the past. The only thing i'm a bit worried about is coming from an OLED Screen (S10e) to an IPS one might be a bit jarring when it comes to text contrast.
The xiaomi will be marginally cheaper (a few bucks).
Since i'll get it through my carrier, i can't get the regular Mi10 anymore. I debated waiting for the Mi11 but that will be quite a bit more expensive and i really don't need the increase in performance.
So what do you think? AMOLED + Exynos or IPS + Snapdragon?

domsch1988 said:
I asked the same in the S20FE Forums but thought i'd ask here too.
I'm looking to replace my S10e with a larger phone. It's down to Mi10T Pro or S20FE. I will have to get the Exynos Version of the S20. It seems to be a toss up between the OLED Screen on the Samsung and the easier unlock plus Snapdragon on the Mi10T.
I don't care for cameras too much, i don't consume media on my phone, i know MIUI and OneUI and don't mind either. I've had great experience with Xiaomi and Samsung in the past. The only thing i'm a bit worried about is coming from an OLED Screen (S10e) to an IPS one might be a bit jarring when it comes to text contrast.
The xiaomi will be marginally cheaper (a few bucks).
Since i'll get it through my carrier, i can't get the regular Mi10 anymore. I debated waiting for the Mi11 but that will be quite a bit more expensive and i really don't need the increase in performance.
So what do you think? AMOLED + Exynos or IPS + Snapdragon?
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Its up to u, s20 fe is really good phone too. I actually decided to go with mi 10t since fe and 10tpro are 100e more than 10t and they are not that better for that much difference, camera is 5% better and mi 10t is still capable of making some great shots. According to screen ive used 9t before and i can tell that i like IPS more and its faster refresh rate is amazing, but it doesnt have aod and super wallpapers so its one downside for me.

Mi 10T Pro is a much better phone overall, which is amazing given it's way cheaper than the S20FE. One of the best value phones hands down.
Software wise is less bloated and offers a better Android experience.
Hardware is so much better in every single area. The camera is very very good, the battery performance is stellar, the screen is top notch for an IPS LCD screen. Then Exynos vs Snapdragon, dilemma in which I prefer Snapdragon.
Now there's a few things which might be deal breakers for people:
-No IP68 (I've never had the need for this in my life, phone is unusable when swimming anyways), but if you love boating, beaches or swimming then this might be a deal for you.
-ANY AMOLED screen it's light years ahead of even the best LCD screens. It's day and night difference: the contrast, the colors, everything. Pictures with bright colors on day light they're comparable, as soon as there's an image with heavy contrast, shadows or black on it then it's VERY obvious the differences specially indoors. When web browsing or scrolling around the menus you won't notice, as soon as you open a photo or a nice wallpaper, you'll see how bad LCD screens are compared to AMOLED.
-Developer community is still dead for the Mi 10T.
I came from a Mi 9T Pro, and the AMOLED screen it's a big deal... But I really wanted the infinite lasting battery of the Mi 10T and the IR blaster. As an added bonus I found out the camera, specially video recording and low light photos is so but so much better. But once you go AMOLED is very hard to go back to LCD.
Just because of the Samsung bloatware I'd avoid them like a plague, and you'd think a Chinese manufacturer would be worse but overall Xiaomi is better than the rest, they have done a pretty good job from hardware to software. It's a solid and nice product.
And for the money of an S20 FE you're better off buying a Google Pixel 5 which is pretty good if you don't mind the "OK" battery.
Or better yet go for the Mi 10 Ultra or Mi 11 Pro which is around the corner.

domsch1988 said:
I asked the same in the S20FE Forums but thought i'd ask here too.
I'm looking to replace my S10e with a larger phone. It's down to Mi10T Pro or S20FE. I will have to get the Exynos Version of the S20. It seems to be a toss up between the OLED Screen on the Samsung and the easier unlock plus Snapdragon on the Mi10T.
I don't care for cameras too much, i don't consume media on my phone, i know MIUI and OneUI and don't mind either. I've had great experience with Xiaomi and Samsung in the past. The only thing i'm a bit worried about is coming from an OLED Screen (S10e) to an IPS one might be a bit jarring when it comes to text contrast.
The xiaomi will be marginally cheaper (a few bucks).
Since i'll get it through my carrier, i can't get the regular Mi10 anymore. I debated waiting for the Mi11 but that will be quite a bit more expensive and i really don't need the increase in performance.
So what do you think? AMOLED + Exynos or IPS + Snapdragon?
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Snapdragon 865 in Mi 10T Pro is 30% faster than the Exynos on S20... and also better thermal control and less throttling.
I agree the LED on 10T vs Amoled on S20 is a slight downer, however the 10T PRo is 144Hz refresh vs 120 on Samsung S20
Battery life is undoubletly better on Xiaomi compared with Samsung, and also the battery in 10T Pro is a lot larger (5000mah)
Look on eBay or FB for best prices on borh phones before you make your final decision.
(I got a 2nd hand Mi 10T PRo brand new - with genuine UK Mi 30w charger, but no retail box - for £380 on FB Marketplace )
I'm also excited about the upcoming Mi 11 range but agree with you... Mi 11 prices for next 3-6 months will be much higher than for Mi10 , even 2nd hand ones.
Either S20 FE or Mi 10T Pro will be a great device for you, but my vote goes for the Mi 10T Pro.
(P.S. go for 256GB storage option as Mi 10 devices do not support SD Card expansion).

well it's not a direct comparison , but i've upgraded from a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 , and I miss the Note 8's Amoled screen.. it's much much better that Mi 10T Pro's LCD if you factor out the smooth 144hz screen , everything else is much bettter on the Xiaomi... oh forgot about note8 is thinner at that Spen

The contrast on Mi 10T/Pro is high but not on the same level of OLED screens. Probably the best LCD I've seen on a phone.

guys i found the s20fe 5g and the mi10t in the same price wich one should i choose both of them are equiped with sd865