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Lg g5 vs htc 10... Evidently no contest

I admit that initially I was expecting the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge to be the best phone out there. However when we ran into the bootloader issue and more news about the LG G5 came out I was definitely attracted to the possibility of having the LG G5 and a better product possibly than made by Samsung. The rumors and upcoming details about the HTC 10 phone were also in the back of my mind. However after reading the below article I think that we have all made a very wise decision.
http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-10-review/

Going to end up like M9
They just can't get over the hurdle

I'd take the 10 over the G5 any day, but to each his own.

CafeKampuchia said:
I'd take the 10 over the G5 any day, but to each his own.
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What issues are you having with your G5?

After reading the review I am glad I bought the G5 as there is really very little difference between the phones in the review. I have had HTC in the past as well as Motorola and will buy neither again. My last 4 phones have been LG and I loved them all.

have to say, having both the S7 Edge (exynos) and the LG G5, i actually prefer the LG. It's just as fast and the headphone quality much better.

Other than the fact that I love a Super AMOLED screen such as on the S7 Edge I will have to say that between the three top phones out today the G5 to me is the best. However I must admit that the LCD screen on the G5 is quite excellent for what it represents in LCD technology. It's definitely the best LCD screen on a phone that I've seen. However like I said before tell me the perfect G5 would have been if it came with a Super AMOLED screen.

IMHO, most of it's subjective..
Especially sicne G5 still has no root, and the 10 looks like it will almost out of the starting gate. For me, root's more important than friggin' benchmarks, or camera quality, etc.

Removable battery, on screen buttons, solid camera (as good as or better than my s6e), and the potential for AOSP ROMs: I'm happy with my choice. Looking forward to the 360 cam and my extra battery and charging cradle!

I am not at all excited for the HTC 10 or any other HTC product for that matter. To me they are very close to being irrelevant at all.
Right now I dont anticipate finding anything to replace my G5 until maybe the Fall LG release (whatever comes after the LG V10). The phone has its flaws in the build quality, but there is nothing horrible & the phone has a ton going for it. Overall I am happy with it, much more so then I was with my S7 (though the s7 form factor was better in my opinion).

HTC will always have a place in my heart and I hope they do well with the 10, for the markets sake. However, the lg g5, in my opinion is excellent. The quality of the screen, build(I don't have any problems that others might have) the ability to easily replace a battery, the modular design with actual modular items that are functional, and the camera(as a parent fast reliable cameras are a must) and lastly, lg sticking with a micro sd to go along with the great camera. The HTC 10 will have superior sound production and might have better antennas which the HTC m9 gave me the best reception of any phone I've ever owned. The lg g5 has faired excellent in that department. Unfortunately for htc, I will be sticking with the lg g5(for now)?

Not impressed with the G5
I am definitely not impressed with the G5 and if the HTC 10 was out a bit earlier I would have gotten it over the G5. I have light bleed along the bottom of my screen over to the bottom right, poor audio quality (since I won't be getting the DAC since I live in the states), the battery dies quickly, I can look right through the gap between the module and the phone, and the bump for the camera is also hideous. With all that being said it was definitely a better buy over the Galaxy S7. The S7 sounds worse through headphones according to some(I can't believe that's actually possible), No removable battery, and a crappy loud speaker. If only the V10 had shipped with the 810...

My G5 is flawless. Sound is great. Display is great. Perfect construction.

Other people have different opinions it would seem:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/HTC-10-vs-LG-G5_id4194

I'm still more than happy with my G5. Feels light years better than my s6e.

scottricketts said:
I'm still more than happy with my G5. Feels light years better than my s6e.
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Glad to hear it. I just ordered one and currently have an S6 I'll be trading in coming from ATT.
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The on screen buttons HTC has adopted is a deal breaker for me. Also, I'm a huge fan of the camera features on the G5 along with the added super wide lens, and the ir blaster, the list goes on.. It's more of the full package for me.. Can you tell I love this phone

A good read for those all in with the G5.
http://m.androidcentral.com/love-letter-lg-g5s-wide-angle-camera

I had issues with my first G5, when I put in an SD card, it wouldn't recognize the SIM card OR the SD card, when I got my second one it had a small burn in with the bottom right corner in the LCD, so on the third one I like it, I've got my spare battery and charger on the way and so far... so good. I got it for the modularity as I'm a HUGE fan of Project Ara and Puzzlephone and if a manufacturer is going to support modularity (even in a micro fashion) I want to support them. Plus since the LG Thrill (Last LG phone I've had), they've come SO far with their software... it's not even funny there.

So far with the 10d update all is perfect on my 2 G5s. Very happy with them.

[Q] Moto X Pure/Style vs OnePlus 3

Hi Guys,
I have a Moto X Pure/Style EU version.
I see many of you have ditched this device for OP3
The only reasons I have not switched to OP3 yet is because MXP has a quad-hd screen and dual speakers.
Can someone please compare the speaker quality and sound from headphones (also bluetooth headphones, if possible) with that of OP3?
How is the camera compared to that of MXP? MXP has a 21MP camera and OP3 has only 16MP. I read somewhere that OP2's camera was better than OP3s.
MXP's front camera has a wide angle lens and takes very descent selfies, not sure how the 8MP OP3's camera fares against MXP's

gautam.malik said:
Hi Guys,
I have a Moto X Pure/Style EU version.
I see many of you have ditched this device for OP3
The only reasons I have not switched to OP3 yet is because MXP has a quad-hd screen and dual speakers.
Can someone please compare the speaker quality and sound from headphones (also bluetooth headphones, if possible) with that of OP3?
How is the camera compared to that of MXP? MXP has a 21MP camera and OP3 has only 16MP. I read somewhere that OP2's camera was better than OP3s.
MXP's front camera has a wide angle lens and takes very descent selfies, not sure how the 8MP OP3's camera fares against MXP's
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mxp is better in speaker quality ..i had both...cameras are comparable...display is better on mxp but op3 rocks in performance.,.it is almost twice as fast and is beast...but advantage of mxp is you get timely updates from moto...may be n is already around the corner when n is released...so if you are thinking for sound quality and speakers keep moto(this does not mean op3 had bad speakers or sound...but mxp has better...)

I have both and will be selling my MXP in the coming days.
Headphone sound is much better on the OP and speaker quality is the same if not better on the OP but you have to cup your hand.
The cameras are similar but the sensors and/or software make photos on the OP better.
The only differences I can notice in the screens is that blacks are more true on the OP and it's slightly easier to see in sunlight.
The only feature that the MXP takes hands down is expandable storage.

Having both phones I think the external speakers on the MXP sounds better but the OP3 sounds better on my headphones.

My OnePlus one performed better than mxp. Speaker and external SD will be missed. Never had speaker all the way up anyways. Changed display to 1080 as well. Not sure what's the big deal with qHD? Other than Sucking battery, didn't do anything for me. One+3 blows motoXP out of the water. Still might be too early to tell, but initial review for me says one+3 all the way.
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Wow. You guys are tempting me to sell my MXP and buy OP3
Camera and multimedia experience is very important to me.
It seems from your reviews that camera and sound from headphones are better in OP3. Even battery life seems to be better. I wish Oneplus releases an OP3 Pro with sdcard, front facing speakers, a sound DAC, finger print reader on the side making the size smaller, ans IR blaster, and 4000+ MAh battery to support a qHD display. Well! That's a dream.

I was the Moto x pure as well and switched as soon as this thing came out. So far, the 1080p is no different as far as quality compared to the Moto x. Speaker quality is the same but mono. Camera is much better in my opinion. Over performance, stock v stock, the OP3 wins IMO. The OP3 is my ideal phone in all honesty. It has everything I want and is amazing to look at.

The OP3 is an upgrade in almost every way from the Moto X. My only real complaint is that both phones are almost exactly the same size (height and width, not depth) but the Moto X manages to get dual front-facing speakers and a 5.7" screen. Another difference most will point out is the resolution, but honestly if I was building my perfect phone I would choose a 1080p display. Holding the Moto X and OP3 next to each other I honestly can't tell the difference, and I'll take the better battery life and performance a 1080p screen provides over the negligible bump in clarity from a quad hd.
In every other category the OP3 is a direct upgrade. Faster, more efficient processor, lightning-fast fingerprint reader, better battery life, and very fast charging. And I'm psyched to see how much developer support the device has already.
Edit: Woohoo, one hundred posts! ^^

How is this even a comparison? A phone that is 6month old+ vs one that came out a week ago.
MXP has a nice screens, speaker and micro-SD that's about it. It was good phone but not even better than OP2.
The MXP 5.7" screen is cut off by the soft keys, I can't stand all these big phones that uses soft keys and eats away the screen. It is technically 5.5" without the row of soft keys.
If one cannot afford the OP3, get the OP2 over the MXP.
The 21Meg camera is ok, it's very washed out in day light and night shots are no good.

Moto x pure... are you kidding me. Speaker and sd slot. That's it. Period. Feel on hand is night and day. I will say, without case, motoXP has much better curve feel when holding, but specs should tell you to stay away from motoXP. Screen is nice, but again might want to change the DPI to save battery. I had to take out moto apps, dtw, and anything else to ensure battery doesn't drain on moto. But OnePlus, I just leave it. Maybe dark mode. That's it. IMHO, two phones provide different user experience fosho.
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Dear
I'm confused
Moto x style or one plus 3
Moto cheaper and gud looking..also stereo sound and op3 ram 6 gb...amoled display
Pls suggest me

Raj11318 said:
Dear
I'm confused
Moto x style or one plus 3
Moto cheaper and gud looking..also stereo sound and op3 ram 6 gb...amoled display
Pls suggest me
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Dont forget moto x pure has been out for awhile and gotten No development compare to op3. Battery life super sucks even with custom Roms n kernel. Pure was alright to me until op3 came out. If your Ok with little heater and recharging more often, go with pure. I'm pretty certain everyone else who came from pure to op3 feels the same.
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Moto Z Play or Lg G5

Fellow Moto Z Play users.
I'm an owner of g3, thats looping in the boot....
I dont trust lg anymore.... G2 screen burns, g3 cracked cases and heat related issue, g4 bootloop and g5 ghosting burn ins
So i today i'm ordering my phone. I want to make sure device wont get defects... Lg g5 with us warrsnty is 400usd.
Moto z play is 450USD.
Lg g5 is cheaper, yet has a better camera and better cpu gpu.
Moto z play has a better batterylife,britgher screen, lower performance, better perceived quality by me(we had 2 of moto g, both didnt have any issues).
How good pr bad the moto play z cam?
Is it bad in bad light. PLEASE help me. I dont want to go over 400 usd. I would buy axon 7 but the cam made me like no.
But if axon 7 and moto play z has the same cam or similar performancr. I will go with zte axon 7. For the performance and design also qhd display and priced 350 usd

I have had zero issues with low light pics taken with my z, and I've had some very good phones in the past (Sammy, HTC). The low light pics can be a bit grainy, and that's where the z play does struggle, but honestly it isn't as big of a deal as some reviews have stated.
Personally having slightly less sharp low light pics, which is rare, is a small trade off to the awesome battery and moto ui. I just got sick of charging my phone 2-3 times a day, and having high end specs meant less and less to me. This phone is a beast all around, it'll be hard to eventually replace it

I am coming from a Note 4 the camera of the Z play is better. It misses only the OIS. But this helps only for free hand low light images. LG may be slightly better in low light because of the better aperture and the OIS. But it won't be that big difference as all the reviews let you think. I would not expect any differences in daylight.

My friend has a G5 and wants my Z play.

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But if axon 7 and moto play z has the same cam or similar performancr. I will go with zte axon 7. For the performance and design also qhd display and priced 350 usd
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The Axon 7's camera is better than the Z Play's - at least on paper - not by much, but OIS may help it win the upper hand. Both are capable of excellent, current flagship quality daylight shots. The Z Play has better post processing and overall the better software and I personally prefer the Z Play's daylight shots, but both are good - neither is great in low light, the Z Play creates more blurry pictures more frequently due to lack of OIS, the Axon 7 has OIS but worse software and post-processing and creates more over- or underexposed pictures. Since bad exposure ruins pictures less than blurriness, I'd say it wins the duel but only by a hair.
While the Moto Z Play has an excellent, loud and crisp front facing mono speaker and generally great audio quality, the Axon 7 blows it and just about any other phone out of the water with its front facing, Dolby ATMOS enabled speakers.
In many other ways, the Axon 7 is superior to the Z Play only on paper. The SD 820 is faster on paper, but runs hotter and is much more power hunger than the Z Play's SD 625 - the real life performance difference between the two is almost imperceptible in everything but VR and hardcore 3D gaming.
Battery life is no contest, with the Axon 7 being pretty average and the Z Play essentially defining a new standard and effectively lasting twice as long.
Both have excellent displays, with the Axon 7's QHD mostly shining when it comes to VR, but again, difference during regular use is mostly negligible.
Where it all falls down is software and reliability. The software experience on the Z Play is nearly perfect, with an incredibly stable, smooth and near stock experience enhanced only by actually worthwhile features. It also comes with absolutely superior reception, be that WiFi, mobile, GPS or even bluetooth. It's always fast, never overheats and is as reliable as a phone can possibly be. It also comes with relatively fast Android updates and long software support.
ZTE's phone comes with a questionable at best custom UI, crippled stock features, buggy software, an insane amount of bloat and ZTE has a history of abandoning software support for their phones almost instantly, even for their former flagships. The Axon 7 is better than anything they have made before so this may change, but I personally wouldn't rely on that "maybe".
Honestly, ZTE's software overall software experience should be prohibitive at this point. Get a OnePlus 3T instead or, well, get the Z Play - an utterly brilliant phone in everything but overall camera performance (where it is merely good but not great).
If camera trumps all, go for the G5, but you should already be aware of LG's build quality issues - that hasn't changed with the G5 by most accounts.

After using G6 for a month, I am back on G5: A short comparison...

I have used a G5 for the most part of this year. Then I upgraded to V20 for a brief period (mostly for the free projector and T-mobile promotion ). V20 was a great device, but was too big for me. Then I upgraded to G6. While it was a nice phone for average consumers, I felt like I have downgraded compared to G5 in many aspects. So, after using it for a month I am back to my good old G5! I am just gonna list my reasons below.
1. Camera: No real improvement in camera performance. Just some more megapixels in the wide angle one. I use the wide angle camera a lot, so it was a good thing, but not that important. G6 is using phase detection autofocus, compared to the laser in G5. While this is good in some situation, G5 takes much better macro-mode pictures due to laser focus.
2. Infra-red: Gone. How come they decided to remove a feature, rather than upgrading?
3. Display: G6 got a nice display, but this 2:1 aspect ratio is simply wasted real estate on top and bottom. At least on V20 the extra space was used for something useful (the second display)
4. Notification LED: A big minus. Always-on-display is good, but a LED is a lot more functional and visible. The AOD also takes a toll on the battery. Despite larger battery in G6, on my usage level the battery performance was no better than G5.
5. Removable battery: I was a big fan of the samsung note series until they ditched the removable battery in note5. Since then I used all the LG flagships, because they kept the battery removable. I hope they keep the removable battery in V30.
6. Root-ability: As of now, G6 is not rootable, and I believe there is a good chance that it will never get root. Performance improvement in SD821 is unnoticeable compared to SD820, specially when I can use a custom kernel in G5 to suit my preference.
With G6, LG basically made an eye-candy targeting a consumer base who buys Samsung and apple for the flashy looking phones. For me a phone is about functionality, not a fashion statement. While the glossy look of G6 is aesthetically pleasing, the trade-off in functionality was simply not for me. I really do hope that LG doesn't target the same market for V30. In that case G5 might as well be my last LG phone. But my G5 is going strong with zero issues, and I believe it will serve a good long time.

Agree with you on most counts. I've had every LG "G" phone since G2 and like you, V20 due to the good promotion on price and minibeam projector. V20 I too found was too big, though that quad-DAC really does make a difference. Audio is superb on it. Just got G6 and on my first week of usage. I like it so far and in hand, it feels great, as it feels like a "candybar" again, not the overly wide feeling where your hands feel stretched with G3, G4, and V20. G5 was a nice sized phone with tons of features and a seriously underrated phone. I will say this, performance on G5 and V20 was topnotch at the beginning but they too underwent the typical Android slowdown after a few weeks of use. I'm talking programs that crawl, camera super slow to open, general navigation slow, and twitchy, stuttery browsing... none of which is really apparent on an iPhone... unfortunately, Android still can't seem to figure out the buttery smooth part (maybe Pixel?). The battery life on G5 did really stink though and there's no way I could go an entire day without changing out the battery, which becomes a ritual and it's not like it's hard, but it is annoying (I had 3 batteries). My G5 wasn't without problems though - it has that notorious GPS issue... GPS signal is absolute garbage (there's an in-depth XDA thread on it) and even after sending back the G5 to LG for repairs, it developed the problem over time... so GPS is really crippled on this phone (for me and many other unlucky ones) and as most can agree GPS is one of those crucial features, I can't go back to my own copy of G5.... maybe I can pick up another used one for a good price with a good GPS unit... but that's too much trouble. I like G5 but I don't love it THAT much to go through all that trouble... if I am honest, V20 really has got it all... except the size part. V20's wide angle camera is I think slightly less wide than G5's. I like G5's wideness better.
G6 - just beautiful... but you're right. No more replaceable batteries... and LG gave the US people a normal (stinky) DAC, not like the one in V20... oh boy, you can literally hear the difference. But I also noticed LG's own music app stinks - install a 3rd party - I installed Pi Music Player and the audio quality is noticeably better than the stock music player, despite the stinker of a DAC. LG says the US customers wanted wireless charging over DAC... c'mon seriously? With USB-C, charging is so easy... I'd rather have a better DAC. And removal of IR really hurts. Maybe most didn't use it but I travel a lot for work and stay at hotels... I find myself using IR quite often to change the input source of the TV (for plugging my laptop via HDMI, using Chromecast, etc).
LG... please don't go along with the "norm"... You will not win and you will no longer have any key differentiating feature.

I have to agree, I've had my G6 about a month now and I'm not that impressed. I've had several random reboots​, and the screen freezes. If we had root, I could work with it but since we don't, I tend to use my G5 more and more..

Which rom do you use on LG G5?

loretta1980 said:
Which rom do you use on LG G5?
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Stock rooted with Asgard kernel.
If you don't need WiFi calling or VOLTE, Fulmics rom is a good option.

H830 and H850 are the only variants that can be rooted right? Does the 830 have all the bands necessary for ATT LTE? Or do you have to go with the 850?

suhridkhan said:
In that case G5 might as well be my last LG phone. But my G5 is going strong with zero issues, and I believe it will serve a good long time.
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well you lucky
mine main camera died after 2 months
i installed another main camera module and didnt work
so i have a G5 with non working main camera and the wide angle is not good for everyday pics
i like the G5 so much but that ripped my heart appart

Improvements You Want for V40

Now that you have had the V30, what improvements would you want LG to make for the V40?
Mine are as follows....
- 8mp front facing camera with bigger pixels and/or better aperture
- Stereo speakers
- Charge at least a tiny bit faster.
- LED notification light
- Metal back like V20 (doesn't have to be removable)
- 6GB of RAM
Then of course whatever the most recent SOC is at the time of release, but that's a given. If LG keeps the same form factor, keeps all other features, then adds those I listed above, I believe it'd be the perfect phone! What do you want improved?
Also hopefully with some software updates its possible LG could improve the front camera and charging speed of the V30 in the meantime!

I sign for all the above (except metal back, I don't care about it), plus:
- Power button at the right side of the phone (sometimes it's annoying to pick up the device just to power it off (double tap is a solution, but not as convenient)) OR fingerprint sensor under the bottom part of the screen
- As an alternative to LED notification light I would be happy with the built-in Always On Screen feature with custom icons ("NoLED" app like feature)
- And the most important one - leave all current features, design and behavior AS IS!

The very straight forward handful, at least for me, are:
Better OLED panel (larger and higher quality)
Double the RAM (because the V30 should have had 6GB)
Dual-SIM US model with band 71
Stock Android (LG's skin sucks)
Unlockable bootloader with all fastboot and ADB commands intact on all models.

I think your list would be similar to my own.
1) Stereo speakers
2) 6GB RAM
3) Better front facing camera
Only thing is that I'm sure with stereo speakers, the device will be heavier and may have larger bezel. It would be a possible trade off but man I love how light and how little bezel there is.
Edit: 4) The ability to root it! LOL
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Stereo speakers will mean bigger bezels and possibly something else disappearing. (Battery, headphone jack, something else) And let's face it, phone speakers never actually sound good. Ever.
Better selfie camera would also mean bigger top bezel. Increasing the megapixel count by 3 megapixels is nothing. 99% of people can't tell the difference in standard viewing. You have to quadruple the number of megepixels before most people can actually tell the difference. That would mean a 20mp camera and not 8. Of course, then you run into the problem of squeezing 20mp onto a tiny sensor and all of the headaches that come with that. (Noise, sooo much noise) Or, your other option is to use a bigger sensor with bigger pixels which means a bigger bezel. All around it's a lose lose situation.
A lot of changes I see being asked for in order to make them worthwhile changes would lead to drastic design differences.
I'm actually pretty happy with the V30 as it is. I would maybe like to see the wide angle camera get just a tad better with AF but that's about it.

Release date? Does that count as an improvement? ??

Better camera, front facing speakers. They could literally leave editing else the same and I'd be happy.

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- Stereo speakers
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are mostly useless , but make bezels larger, make phone heavier, bulkier, more prone to speaker failure, damage. With having Bluetooth earphones usage of stereo speakers tends to zero
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- Charge at least a tiny bit faster.
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Who deprives you from charging V30 faster with proper QuickCharge 3.0 charger? Buy one and get charging at QC 3.0 speeds. LG never puts QC 3.0 charger into boxes, only QC 2.0 capable ones. Even with G5, V20 and G6 they've put QC 2.0 adapters, same as goes with V30
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- LED notification light
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Useless when having Bluetooth speakers and AoD. Waste of bezels, space and BOM (bill of materials)
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- Metal back like V20 (doesn't have to be removable)
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Then altogether forget of so much useful Qi Charging AND waterproof. For you can't glue metal to metal frame
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What do you want improved?
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V30 is perfect mostly already as is, BUT with small but very BIG exception, it lacks EAS sched governor which makes it WAY more slower than even Huawei competitive offers, not to mention Pixels and onepluses. LG lacks very huge times in storage speed benchmarks due to garbage kernel and storage drivers code. lack of proper governor added to poor storage code leads to very lags, stutters, jittering and hickups turning users towards Pixel 2 XL or even Mate 10/Note 8
And also camera needs to be updated and updated heavily. It's software processing, as well as ****ty OIS and HDR performance makes V30 not even suitable for who it directed at: for vlogers/pornhub/xhamster submitters and etc. LG must somehow license HDR+ algorithm from Google, or better yet start to put newest Sony IMX400 modules into V40 and make use of it's internal memory to implement sort of own HDR Plus analogue and vastly improve EIS Steady Shot 2.0 for as of now OIS+EIS performance is garbage and purely pathetic. I was looking into updating V20 to V30 but as of now it's pointless at all with all those shortcomings and hidden issues, mostly with OS

1. Get rid of selfie cam. (Narcissistic and a security vulnerability.)
2. Metal housing. (Glass is for wireless charging, which is slow.)
3. Huge battery.
4. Plain Android without skin, bloat, or unnecessary bells and whistles. A version that enables users to do their own security patching without the mfg and carriers imposing months and years of delays. (Oreo?)
5. A hi-fi DAC that just works, with all apps, without all the unnecessary crap like auto adjustment of gain based on detected load impedance, user-selectable filters, etc. , and without the apps limited to the LG audio and a couple other audio apps.
6. A display free of burn-in.
7. And of course, IP68 or better, SD or next gen user expandable memory, unlocked bootloader and root, carrier unlocked, and how about more attention to eliminating defects (faults, "bugs" by whatever name).

Why can't they make improvements on the LG G7? Why do you have to wait for LG V40?
The V30 is really just a better LG G6. LG should stop taking the view that the "G" models need to be inferior to the "V" models. They could do like Samsung and push out TWO top tier flagships per year, like the Galaxy S/S+ and Note series. Samsung doesn't cripple the S series to "save" it for the "Note" series. They put the everything into the Galaxy S and then try to make Note even better. The only reason the Note has 6GB RAM and the Galaxy S8/S8+ doesn't is because early 2017 6GB RAM was not yet the norm. By late 2017, it is. There's where LG messed up. The LG V30 should have 6GB RAM.
For the LG G6, LG had the STUPID regionalize specs scheme and you couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the specs. Asian countries had more storage and DAC, but U.S. had Qi wireless charging. Then the LG G6+ (released in July! still with Snapdragon 821!) even had regionalized specs (Europe version still didn't have Qi wireless), and none of the LG G6+ could be bootloader unlocked.
But, yeah, I agree.
Stereo speakers would be nice.
Maybe a little bigger battery.
At least 6GB RAM
Better selfie camera just to shut people up. I'm tired of hearing about it.
For those suggesting full metal back that's ridiculous. Can't have full metal back because I will not buy a phone without Qi wireless charging. Every since I had the 2013 LG Nexus 5 it's on my "must have" list and I'm not giving it up now.

Headphone jack on the bottom so its more usable
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ChazzMatt said:
Why can't they make improvements on the LG G7? Why do you have to wait for LG V40?
The V30 is really just a better LG G6. LG should stop taking the view that the "G" models need to be inferior to the "V" models. They could do like Samsung and push out TWO top tier flagships per year, like the Galaxy S/S+ and Note series. Samsung doesn't cripple the S series to "save" it for the "Note" series
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Yeah? Really? Where's second x2 zoom camera in S8? In s8 Plus? Where's Spen and all that accompanying soft in S8? Where 6Gig memory in S8? 6Gig were norm for 2016 xiaomis and oneplus , for 2017 8Gig is already a norma but even Note 8 still stripped of extra 2Gig.
And LG is already doing like Samsung, G6 is like S8 when V30 is like Note 8. V30 in NOT a G6 Plus like every one pretend it to be
The Samsung S series is inferior to Note series and always had been. How would LG market V series if G would have had all same specs but in lesser size? It's only Google's and Apple way to sell pixel with pixel XL and iPhone with iPhone Plus. LG can't afford it

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Yeah? Really? Where's second x2 zoom camera in S8? In s8 Plus? Where's Spen and all that accompanying soft in S8? Where 6Gig memory in S8? 6Gig were norm for 2016 xiaomis and oneplus , for 2017 8Gig is already a norma but even Note 8 still stripped of extra 2Gig.
And LG is already doing like Samsung, G6 is like S8 when V30 is like Note 8. V30 in NOT a G6 Plus like every one pretend it to be
The Samsung S series is inferior to Note series and always had been. How would LG market V series if G would have had all same specs but in lesser size? It's only Google's and Apple way to sell pixel with pixel XL and iPhone with iPhone Plus. LG can't afford it
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Your questions are answered in my post. Read it again. I even specifically mentioned the RAM. Reading comprehension.
Just because some minor players put in more RAM to make a splash, that's not the mainstream norm. And you know it. Just like 21MP selfie cameras are not the norm, but at least one company is doing it.
Sony puts 4K displays on their phones, is still NOT the norm.
You only quoted the part you read, is that it?
My post stands and fully answers everything you mentioned, either specifically or implied.

LG already did silly things in the past like putting 2Gb of memory first, before Samsung. How did it help it? They people then still found ****loads of issues and wrote lists and lists and lists of "What LG should do in it's next smartphone to at least catch Samsung"
Look, LG smartphones is already better than competitors. No point in that "Oh, if it would have +2Gb more I'd have bought it". Nope, you wouldn't buy because if it had +2Gb more you would find next wish like "Oh, I wish lg put telephoto camera like every other vendor uses and strip that silly useless wide angle one" and so on and on yadda-yadda

Wish list from most to least:
Strong desire
1) Faster camera - focus is too slow in dimmer light and I keep missing shots of my dog that were very easy to capture with my S7 edge. Maybe 1.4um instead of 1.0um so there's more light for easier focusing.
2) An easy way to launch camera when the screen is on. Double tapping the volume down button is great when the screen is off but I'd like an easier way to start the camera when I'm using the phone. Maybe a dedicated camera/shutter button to replace the power button.
3) Better speaker - The one on the V30 is just too tinny. I usually listen to music in the shower but after being used to the S7 edge speaker, which does decent lows and provides a fuller sound, this one just sounds like racket. (Not dual speakers though because I prefer smaller bezels - I find no instance where listening to phone speakers trumps using earphones)
Nice to have
4) Better front facing camera - I don't take many selfies but there is a clear difference between the quality of other selfie cams vs. the one on the V30. For most intents and purposes, the 5mp one does OK, but if I'm taking a group selfie, I'd prefer the image to be higher quality than just a solo selfie.
5) Gesture controls on the fingerprint reader - to pull down the notification bar or scroll through websites.

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Who deprives you from charging V30 faster with proper QuickCharge 3.0 charger? Buy one and get charging at QC 3.0 speeds. LG never puts QC 3.0 charger into boxes, only QC 2.0 capable ones. Even with G5, V20 and G6 they've put QC 2.0 adapters, same as goes with V30
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Stock charger with the V20 is QC3, so says the inline meter i have. V20's charger is QC3 , chances are good so is the V30
I saw no difference in charging speeds between stock and a ravpower charger.
What did speed up charge rates was using a thicker cable. I used the charging cable from the G4as the V20 also has USB 2 and stuck a micro usb to usb c adapter on it and saw the meter touch 15W. With the stock flat cable it wouldn't cross 14W

They should adopt features that have been done with other phones.
Gestures:
I like the OP5T gestures - both while screen is off, and on the fp reader.
Battery:
For roughly the same physical size - they could fit in a larger battery like 4000 mah.
If Huawei can do it, then so can everyone else.
Display:
Fix whatever the issues are regarding screen uniformity, blue tint, etc, etc, etc.
Camera:
I am not sure what the deal is with recent cameras from all the manufacturers - preferring noise reduction over DETAIL, but please go back to the basics on this.
Do whatever you need to do, to produce photos like Google's camera.
OR, if you are going to overhaul the camera app - at least give the user the option to select AUTO modes that allow for the capturing of more Detail.
Headphone Jack
I, too, would prefer the jack to be on the BOTTOM of the phone.
FP Reader
Much like the OP5T, make it out of CERAMIC - so that it won't be scratched/damaged easily
Versions
I agree that they have to STOP with all the flavors, and just make the BEST phone with ALL the features they can possibly cram in to their phones.
No more regional versions, no more G series is inferior to V series - just give us the best - don't hold back.

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For the LG G6, LG had the STUPID regionalize specs scheme and you couldn't buy an LG G6 with ALL the specs. Asian countries had more storage and DAC, but U.S. had Qi wireless charging. Then the LG G6+ (released in July! still with Snapdragon 821!) even had regionalized specs (Europe version still didn't have Qi wireless), and none of the LG G6+ could be bootloader unlocked.
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This was a carrier thing. Carriers aren't that prevalent in Asia and guess what no screwing around with specs
G4, G5 were the same for everyone (the brazilians and russians got a lower spec'd G5 but otherwise it was the same)
The circus began with the G6
See the V30, pretty much the same for everyone
Why the V30+, more competitive in some markets. I don't get a V30 only v30+ in mine
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I would maybe like to see the wide angle camera get just a tad better with AF but that's about it.
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Adding OIS would be good
But I have this feeling that LG will try to fit a third camera in there, maybe a 2x. They will be vertical set instead of the present horizontal.
This means smaller sensors all around :/
Or they could try to just improve what's already there

One Twelve said:
This was a carrier thing. Carriers aren't that prevalent in Asia and guess what no screwing around with specs
G4, G5 were the same for everyone (the brazilians and russians got a lower spec'd G5 but otherwise it was the same)
The circus began with the G6
See the V30, pretty much the same for everyone
Why the V30+, more competitive in some markets. I don't get a V30 only v30+ in mine
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Adding OIS would be good
But I have this feeling that LG will try to fit a third camera in there, maybe a 2x. They will be vertical set instead of the present horizontal.
This means smaller sensors all around :/
Or they could try to just improve what's already there
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No, it was an LG thing. They said they did it on purpose - only giving certain specs to various parts of the world, to ostensibly keep costs down and give the "popular" options for each region.
But it was an idiotic idea. Like the U.S. buyers want Qi wireless charging, but not more storage?
Sent from my carrier unlocked LG V30 US998

ChazzMatt said:
No, it was an LG thing. They said they did it on purpose - only giving certain specs to various parts of the world, to ostensibly keep costs down and give the "popular" options for each region.
But it was an idiotic idea. Like the U.S. buyers want Qi wireless charging, but not more storage?
Sent from my carrier unlocked LG V30 US998
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I don't believe it was an LG thing. i think the carriers twisted their arm over it to keep costs down and make LG competitive.
Who are the biggest customers of phones ? operators