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Leaving my OP in place, but I have rewritten the description with much more detail and pics here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25401417#post25401417
I suggest skipping to there.
I am looking for general tips here. E.g., not asking you to diagnose my specific problem so much as give me ideas of what else to check or try.
Lately I have had unexplained (to me) battery drain. Yesterday I lost about 25 percent in an hour while the phone idled. It is not a constant thing, though. I can go an hour and loose 1 percent then loose massive amounts in the next hour.
Now, i have searched, but I have not found anything that applies to me.
I have:
Tried a different radio
Tried a different kernel
Reflashed my rom
Phone is entering deep sleep according to cpu spy
There are no unusual or excessive wake locks according to better battery stats
No apps are using a lot of battery.
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
Ideas?
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
Zepius said:
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
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So I don't think I can blame it on that.
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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can you give us screen shots of battery stats?
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Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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I do, and on reflection it is a possible culprit since I added it recently.
Didn't occur to me since it was producing no wakelocks and the battery stats did not showing as using much battery.
I shall turn it off for a bit and see if that helps. (unless there is some other way to test if it is the problem first.) I am off to the search button!
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This is from yesterday when i set it down unused for about 90 minutes. The amount of wakes seems liek a lot, but it is similar to what i see when i have far far less drain, so I don't think that is the problem. I didn't get the app list screen, but out should screen as the only major drain with about 2 minutes.
I know it is shows poor signal strength, so immediately after that shot I put it in airplane mode, turned of sync, and rebooted. The battery continued to drain and graph had the exact same slope under those conditions. (Forget to get a pic though.)
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System panel paid version with monitoring enabled is the best for tracking apps using CPU.
OK, still working on this.
To recap:
When the screen is off, and no apps are running I sometimes get inexplicable battery drain. This is occurring under conditions when I should be experiencing little or no drain at all. I say this becuase:
The screen is of and no bakground apps are running
the phone is NOT awake and IS entering deep sleep (as confirmed by cpuspy)
there are no unusual kernel or partial wake locks
there are no apps listed as using unexpected ammounts of battery
This is not a universal problem. The phone *often* behaves as expected. I can leave the phone off for an hour and see a 1% or 2% drain, and I am happy with that. However, sometimes, randomly, it goes nuts on my.
This graph from a few weeks ago shows what I mean. Look in the green box. The phone is sleeping, and the screen is off. The graph starts as a flatline, then, all of a sudden, it begins to drop precipitously.
Here is a graph that shows the battery dropping at the same rate whether the phone is awake or sleeping:
I have gone the following to try and narrow the problem down:
Done a completely fresh install of my Rom including a system wipe.
Tried two kernels (the aokp default and several relases of Franco's
Tried a different radio
Activated and installed a new sim card
I have come to suspect that the problem is network related. When the problem starts, sometimes going into airplane mode and back and/or toggling 2g only temporarily fixes the problem.
I suspect that something is happening with my connection to T-Mobile that keeps the network running and draining power. This is pure speculation, but it is all I can think of.
I installed juice defender (which I had not been previously running) and noticed the that, sometimes, it didn't turn of data when it should have. I also noticed the following two things happen:
I do not believe it is a rom problem, since if so, someone else would be reporting this. It might be an app problem, but if so the app is draining battery without a wake lock and while the phone is in deep sleep.
It is not exchange (as was suggested in this thread) since it continues when I ev my exchange account.
I have no idea what else to do or try.
Since it happens at random and takes a while to identify, uninstalling one app at a time to test for that could easily take months to narrow down a misbehaving app.
I know it is not a hardware issue since last month I got this:
That was with AOKP and Franco (earlier versions obviously)
I have google searched till my fingers bleed.
I am a long way form being an expert, and I suspect I may have overlooked something obvious.
Please, any thoughts??
Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
Here is that chart for last night.
I had about 1 hour and 30 minutes screen on time with 65% left when I went to bed. When I woke up, phone was dead.
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Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
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Mine often does that. But sometimes it doesn't. It is the fact that it happens seemingly at random that makes it so annoying and hard to track down.
I would replace the battery
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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The thought has occurred to me, but unfortunately, no, I don't have a friend I can swap with. And really, since I have had the phone less than 3 months, the battery *shouldn't* be bad, but yeah, defective products happen.
If I cannot find any other cause I will likely order a new battery and see if that fixes it.
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"? Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
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You are incorrect. But, in any case, I DID calibrate the battery just to cover bases in the case that I was wrong.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"?
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We'll of course it can. That is kinda my point. If I go one app at a time waiting for it to "run a process at random" I am talking literally MONTHS of testing. I would have to wait many hours, if not days after installing or uninstalling an app to be sure whether or not it made a difference, then move on the the next. This is simply not an option. I started this thread in hopes that a realistic and doable solution might exist that I was unaware of.
Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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I am asking because there may be a solution that I am unaware of that doesn't require me to put my entire life on hold for months. It is possible that there is no such solution, but I asked in case there was one.
Sorry to have put you out so much.
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
when i did a complete quote and re flash i did not setup the exchange account, but the issue continued.
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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I'll check that out. Thanks.
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My battery also drains at a rate similar to yours however I'm on the CDMA version. Hopefully you can figure out what's going on with yours.
Hello, new to the forums here. I recently updated to 4.4.2 on my LG Optimus G Pro and I went from having a battery that lasted all day, sometimes two days to my phone being dead by the time I get home from work for the day ever since the update.
Two days ago I had 1hr18min of screen time within a 6 hours off the charger and the phone was at 15% battery life left. Today, I had 13 minutes of on screen time and at the end of my 6 hour shift my phone was at 40% and dead a few hours after I got home. I have GPS, bluetooth, NFS all disabled and my brightness set to 30%.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm thinking of doing a factory reset and just not updating to the new version of android when it prompts.
Thanks
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Hello, new to the forums here. I recently updated to 4.4.2 on my LG Optimus G Pro and I went from having a battery that lasted all day, sometimes two days to my phone being dead by the time I get home from work for the day ever since the update.
Two days ago I had 1hr18min of screen time within a 6 hours off the charger and the phone was at 15% battery life left. Today, I had 13 minutes of on screen time and at the end of my 6 hour shift my phone was at 40% and dead a few hours after I got home. I have GPS, bluetooth, NFS all disabled and my brightness set to 30%.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm thinking of doing a factory reset and just not updating to the new version of android when it prompts.
Thanks
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Get betterbatterystats and see if you phone deep sleeps. If not then check what the wakelocks are in partial wakelocks. If it's a kernel problem maybe you need to flash a different kernel.
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Get betterbatterystats and see if you phone deep sleeps. If not then check what the wakelocks are in partial wakelocks. If it's a kernel problem maybe you need to flash a different kernel.
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i am running stock phone. it is not rooted or anything
Same exact battery drain problem. Im on stock e980 rom (rooted) with no custom kernel.
Gsam battery monitor app is showing the kernel as keeping my phone wake for the entire time my phone has been unplugged.
The problem seems to come and go though. One day itll be fine, but another day the battery will be sucked dry fast.
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I'm running stock rooted for e980 and have pretty good battery life .... Try clearing Google play services data and rebooting ... Check and see what's draining your battery mol its pretty easy
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I'm also running stock kernel, and have great battery life on kitkat. Just reset your phone to factory defaults
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ccelis said:
I'm also running stock kernel, and have great battery life on kitkat. Just reset your phone to factory defaults
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I've done this twice in the past 3 days....
I'm sick of having to set up my phone over and over again. And this is a new phone too. I just got it Monday under warranty because my old phone broke.
It's getting annoying. I used to get 14-17hrs+ of battery life (casual use, usually ending the day at 30-50% too, so I never even reached 0%) with my old phone on Jelly Bean. Now with Kitkat, I get around 6 hours if I'm lucky! According to Wakelock detector, my phone is awake 85%+ of the day! All it points to is Kernel (Android OS). I see lots of Wlan_wake triggers too, so I suspect wifi, but even with wifi off, the drainage still occurs. And I only have a 2GB data plan shared between 3 people, so it's not like I can just use data all the time either. I actually NEED wifi.
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I've done this twice in the past 3 days....
I'm sick of having to set up my phone over and over again. And this is a new phone too. I just got it Monday under warranty because my old phone broke.
It's getting annoying. I used to get 14-17hrs+ of battery life (casual use, usually ending the day at 30-50% too, so I never even reached 0%) with my old phone on Jelly Bean. Now with Kitkat, I get around 6 hours if I'm lucky! According to Wakelock detector, my phone is awake 85%+ of the day! All it points to is Kernel (Android OS). I see lots of Wlan_wake triggers too, so I suspect wifi, but even with wifi off, the drainage still occurs. And I only have a 2GB data plan shared between 3 people, so it's not like I can just use data all the time either. I actually NEED wifi.
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do you have an SD card installed? Maybe you can try to remove that and get rid of all other media from your phone storage. Might be a media scanner problem? Or maybe you can try to disable auto sync, and check if Google play services is the culprit.
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do you have an SD card installed? Maybe you can try to remove that and get rid of all other media from your phone storage. Might be a media scanner problem? Or maybe you can try to disable auto sync, and check if Google play services is the culprit.
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The media scanner usually shows up in the battery stats window though, and it isn't. I've had a corrupted SD card on my tablet once before and it caused media scanner to go berserk, but the Mediascanner entry appeared under Settings>Battery as the highest battery consumer.
In this case of my phone right now, it is Android OS in Settings>Battery. According to Wakelock detector, GSam, and BetterBatteryStats, it's more specifically Kernel.
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The media scanner usually shows up in the battery stats window though, and it isn't. I've had a corrupted SD card on my tablet once before and it caused media scanner to go berserk, but the Mediascanner entry appeared under Settings>Battery as the highest battery consumer.
In this case of my phone right now, it is Android OS in Settings>Battery. According to Wakelock detector, GSam, and BetterBatteryStats, it's more specifically Kernel.
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Have you tried reflashing your firmware, instead of just doing a factory reset?
I assume you are rooted since you are using BBS and wake lock detector on KK. Why not flash a custom rom?
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silentvelcr0 said:
Hello, new to the forums here. I recently updated to 4.4.2 on my LG Optimus G Pro and I went from having a battery that lasted all day, sometimes two days to my phone being dead by the time I get home from work for the day ever since the update.
Two days ago I had 1hr18min of screen time within a 6 hours off the charger and the phone was at 15% battery life left. Today, I had 13 minutes of on screen time and at the end of my 6 hour shift my phone was at 40% and dead a few hours after I got home. I have GPS, bluetooth, NFS all disabled and my brightness set to 30%.
Any help would be greatly appreciated, I'm thinking of doing a factory reset and just not updating to the new version of android when it prompts.
Thanks
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Hi i had the same problem as you but i started digging inside the system of the phone i found the problem but you will require root access. If you have root you have to delet a lib file tand it carrier iq wich run in background and drains your battery the file to delete is libiq_client.so do that and you will see an increase in battery life
Hav
ccelis said:
Have you tried reflashing your firmware, instead of just doing a factory reset?
I assume you are rooted since you are using BBS and wake lock detector on KK. Why not flash a custom rom?
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I did this on Tuesday or Wednesday.
... I messed something up on my phone while trying to install a custom recovery, so I was basically forced to reinstall everything. I'm on stock ATT e980 ROM (on an E980) + root. I reflashed the Jelly Bean tot file and then did the OTA update with no apps installed.
On the phone that got warrantied, I had flashed the E980 kitkat backup (now has a flashable version too), and the battery life seemed to be much better on it for about a week, and then the issues started there too.
I just rebooted the phone into recovery and wiped cache and Dalvik cache. Many people on Kitkat are reporting that this helps, but only for about 2 days then the issue returns. Obviously, I want a permanent solution.
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xoLEOox said:
Hi i had the same problem as you but i started digging inside the system of the phone i found the problem but you will require root access. If you have root you have to delet a lib file tand it carrier iq wich run in background and drains your battery the file to delete is libiq_client.so do that and you will see an increase in battery life
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I just tried this right now. Will see what happens.
Will report back if I see anything noticeable.
How would this this battery though? Like, what does it do? Are there any adverse effects to removing it?
EDIT: BTW, I know you weren't addressing this at me, but I'm still trying it LOL
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I did this on Tuesday or Wednesday.
... I messed something up on my phone while trying to install a custom recovery, so I was basically forced to reinstall everything. I'm on stock ATT e980 ROM (on an E980) + root. I reflashed the Jelly Bean tot file and then did the OTA update with no apps installed.
On the phone that got warrantied, I had flashed the E980 kitkat backup (now has a flashable version too), and the battery life seemed to be much better on it for about a week, and then the issues started there too.
I just rebooted the phone into recovery and wiped cache and Dalvik cache. Many people on Kitkat are reporting that this helps, but only for about 2 days then the issue returns. Obviously, I want a permanent solution.
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I just tried this right now. Will see what happens.
Will report back if I see anything noticeable.
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Ok restart when you delete the file this is a permanent solution for me i hope this helps you as it did me
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I assume you are rooted since you are using BBS and wake lock detector on KK. Why not flash a custom rom?
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I didn't see this part of your message, but I just had to respond lol
Yes, I'm rooted and I absolutely hate custom roms. They take out all the features of the phone that I originally bought the phone for, like Smart Screen, the IR remote (yes, I know it can be ported), and the quick memo button. Plus I used custom ROMs on my old SGS2 and they always caused me tons of problems. Crashes, overheating, random reboots, random SODs, etc etc etc. Plus I hate the AOSP feel. I know it's true Android, but I just don;t like it.
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xoLEOox said:
Ok restart when you delete the file this is a permanent solution for me i hope this helps you as it did me
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I'm still getting more than usual battery drain, but it is better now.
I just got a replacement OEM LG battery, so I will try that to see if maybe the battery is defective. When I got my phone replaced under warranty, they didn't have batteries in stock, so they just gave me back my old one and ordered me a knew one. The old phone was overheating a lot too, so maybe the battery is bad.
UPDATE: OK, MUUUUUUUUUCH better battery now!
I put in that new battery and "recalibrated" it by draining it to 0% and charging with the power off. Once it reached 100%, I let it charge an extra hour, unplugged, and started up the phone.
I also installed Qualcomm Snapdragon's Battery Guru. I set it up so that it's mostly managing app syncing, but I also set it up so that it will not rely on location services to turn on/off my wifi. I don't want to leave my location services on all the time. I don't know how it is on Kitkat, but on older Android versions (ICS and GB), leaving GPS on was a huge battery drainer! I still treat location like it was back then.
Anyways, it will take a few days for the app to learn my usage patterns, but it's already helping by making certain apps only sync when I open them, etc. I suspect that all the wlan_wake wakelocks are being caused by auto-sync but I'm reluctant to turn it completely off since i rely on it to sync my work schedule, calendar, etc between my phone and tablet. I just wish there was a system setting to allow auto-sync to run every X hours or something. I really only need the sync to run every 6 hours or so.
It's been about 35mins now with 6mins of screen time and the phone is still at 100%. A few text messages and the installation of Battery Guru too. This is normal and how things used to be. After a while, the phone will most likely go to 99% and then have faster drain, but it shouldn't be so rapid like before. Earlier today, after 30mins, the battery would be at at least 95% or lower by now! After a full day, the battery usage graph would should a 45 degree angle too! It used to be an almost level, very gradual angle instead.
I should also mention that for a while, I was using a Zero Lemon slim battery (3150mAh). I bought it because of all the hype Zero Lemon was getting here on XDA, but I really regret it now. I used it for 2 weeks (1 week on my broken phone and 1 week on my replacement) and the drain wasn't consistent, even after several calibration attempts. It lasted me all day though, but I'd be stuck at maybe 3% for like an hour, then while in deep sleep, the battery would "magically charge" to 6%.
After I swapped back to the OEM battery, I don't think I recalibrated, so I wonder if my phone thought I was still using the Zero Lemon.
I'm planning to return the Zero Lemon.
UPDATE2: It's been a couple hours now and the Android OS is starting to retreat from the #1 slot in the battery consumption list!
Screen is #1 now and Android OS went from 65% usage to 14%! :good: :good:
UPDATE3: :crying: OK, it's broken again. I didn't do anything to the phone, but when the phone hit 50%, I left it alone for 2 hours and the battery drained 30% while it was supposed to be sleeping. Android OS is back up to 80% usage!
Wifi on, Location off, Bluetooth off, auto-sync on. I'm trying auto-sync off today to see if there's any dramatic improvement.
UPDATE4: I might be on to something now. I noticed 2 things: 1st, when the screen is off and the phone is SUPPOSED to be in deep sleep, the back of the phone stays warm to the touch. It wasn't hot, but it was warm enough to be noticeable. 2nd, I had System Tuner installed yesterday but uninstalled it this morning. Despite uninstalling and rebooting, the phone was still draining battery fast (I still lost 25% in 2 hours today!). I noticed that System Tuner had added a script to System/etc/init.d, so I deleted that and rebooted. Now the phone seems to be sleeping (says so in BetterBatteryStats and WakeLockDetector), and the back of the phone is COLD to the touch when doing so. I took a shower today (I take fairly long showers too LOL), and then checked my email, and the battery life didn't decrease at all during that time while it was asleep.
Obviously, I need to test this throughout the day now, but this is definite progress, if not the solution.
Also, on my warrantied phone, when I had the Zero Lemon battery inserted, battery drain was high (battery's fault), so I installed System Tuner then too, trying to tweak the phone. After switching back to the stock battery, the drain remained, but most likely due to System Tuner's script.
Then when I got my replacement phone, I ALSO installed System Tuner and of course, I got battery drain issues! I factory reset, but did not install System Tuner, but the problem still remained. However, it probably remained because the reset doesn't remove system files, so this script was still in the init.d folder.
FINAL: I ended up flashing the stock ROM again (I used Eazy Kat 1.0 this time). My phone began bugging out on me. Random crashes here and there, mobile data randomly disappearing (no LTE/4G/3G at all), and worst of all, people were having difficulty hearing me during calls. Reflashing seems to have worked perfectly this time. *knock on wood*
FYI: The last flashes I did, I used .tot files to flash back to stock Jelly Bean and then updated to Kitkat via OTA.
xoLEOox said:
Hi i had the same problem as you but i started digging inside the system of the phone i found the problem but you will require root access. If you have root you have to delet a lib file tand it carrier iq wich run in background and drains your battery the file to delete is libiq_client.so do that and you will see an increase in battery life
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I stumbled across this post and tried that fix. I'll check back in later to see what it does.
I have owned this phone for about 3 days, but I have some battery issues.
I attached 3 pictures, and on the first picture, you can see there appears to be no wakelocks, but on the 2nd picture, the Android OS used the vast majority of my battery life, and the 3rd picture, Android System has a lot of "Wake Up Device" (i don't know what the number means is it minutes?)..
I have uninstalled/disabled most of the apps I don't need, and have the brightness set to low, and on airplane mode with all sync off, and zenmotion turned off, and this still happens. I lost about 11% battery overnight with this problem. It seems like when I am using the device, the battery drops a percent every minute even when I am just scrolling through the Settings.
I only used about 1 hour screentime on this phone and the rest on idle.
I already installed both system updates.
Does anyone know why this happens? I know there is a memory leak problem, but I saw on another thread other people don't have that bad of a drain anymore...
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I have owned this phone for about 3 days, but I have some battery issues.
I attached 3 pictures, and on the first picture, you can see there appears to be no wakelocks, but on the 2nd picture, the Android OS used the vast majority of my battery life, and the 3rd picture, Android System has a lot of "Wake Up Device" (i don't know what the number means is it minutes?)..
I have uninstalled/disabled most of the apps I don't need, and have the brightness set to low, and on airplane mode with all sync off, and zenmotion turned off, and this still happens. I lost about 11% battery overnight with this problem. It seems like when I am using the device, the battery drops a percent every minute even when I am just scrolling through the Settings.
I only used about 1 hour screentime on this phone and the rest on idle.
I already installed both system updates.
Does anyone know why this happens? I know there is a memory leak problem, but I saw on another thread other people don't have that bad of a drain anymore...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3122883
For battery draining assistance see ZenUI app called ASUS Support: Apps/ASUS Support/Assistance/Battery/Battery drains fast/follow detailed troubleshooting steps. If battery still draining, recommend updating to latest firmware version and then performing a factory data reset. Please ensure to back up all important data as this will erase all data.
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Mine seemed fine for a week and then I got this today. Pretty much done with it. Can't even get it to factory reset.
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For battery draining assistance see ZenUI app called ASUS Support: Apps/ASUS Support/Assistance/Battery/Battery drains fast/follow detailed troubleshooting steps. If battery still draining, recommend updating to latest firmware version and then performing a factory data reset. Please ensure to back up all important data as this will erase all data.
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Keep it simple, use a dumb phone?
Posted using my phone.
Umm do I have good battery?
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For battery draining assistance see ZenUI app called ASUS Support: Apps/ASUS Support/Assistance/Battery/Battery drains fast/follow detailed troubleshooting steps. If battery still draining, recommend updating to latest firmware version and then performing a factory data reset. Please ensure to back up all important data as this will erase all data.
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Create update to resolve the problem .
And respected customers. We do what you suggest.
Enough!!!!!!!!! The Problem is lollipop and asus software.
Find solutions, I don't tell @€&@'@#
Its most likely anddriod memory leak which is fized on 5.1
I have zenfone 2 and at the 1st week the battery drained very fast but then after I Updated all the aps of Zen Ui i noticed improvements to my battety life. go to settings and go to zen ui instnt update and update all the apps. now im using my zenfone 2 whole day surfing from 9am to 7pm and i still have 30% battery hope it works for you too. try it
hello guys i am getting screen on time of mere 2 hours without any significant use on my ZF 2.... i have stock rom. no root nothing.... can anybody help me
Battery drain issue still not fixed with updates???
Disable PC Link and Party Link default apps, worked for me. They're default apps using cpu all the time like they're SO Android... Disable all default apps that you don't use too
I've got here two brand new models, which differ only for touch and battery version (Z2C3 01040005 1525 and ... 1526)
The 1526 doesn't show any drain. The 1525 does, as of its very first boot. I tried keeping same settings of course.
I'd like to point out that when connected and charging it shows big steps like going from 63 to 72% and it also reaches 100% in less than 60 mins.
When disconnected the discharge path exhibits about 1:15min of operation.
May I suspect the battery is defective?
PS: after a factory reset from recovery seems have fixed the problem for now at least...
Asus Zen phone 2 laser battery drain ?
I made an account with this website and took the time to write this, so I can let users who own this phone know one of the
biggest battery drain features I've found......DISABLE HOMESCREEN APP MOVEMENT SENSOR, in app icon settings.
When you tilt your phone app icon adjust to the tilt, yes looks cool until you realize how much battery you could save by leaving then static and not constantly running a fDucking tilt sensor.
hello，my zenfone ze551ml might be going to upgrade to mm 6.0， please tell me is it marshmallow stock rom camera better than 5.0？ is it 6.0 have setting sd card become internal storage？ is it 6.0 have mass big storage not just mtp when connected to pc ？
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I never had a good battery on this phone since I bought it (second hand)
my average SoT is about 2hrs for around 15h uptime daily
I formatted many times trying to fix it, changed roms, kernels, governors, interactive profiles. nothing worked
I thought it was the battery. so I changed it by myself and it's the same, or even worse than before (lol)
Yesterday I removed my google account to see if I have too many services running. and still have 25% active drain and 3% idle (ex kernel manager stats). too much
I don't know what to do now.
1) someone suggested me to watch wakelocks but I need help on that because I don't know how exactly and what look for
2) do you think that could actually be the device? is it possible that lg could accept it as defective? I don't think so. they should be able to repeat my issue, and we know that isn't possible since battery usage is very personal
3) do you have any configuration you suggest me to try.....? maybe I'm missing something
Thank you for your attention, I hope that this thread will be useful for everyone
Personally, that's just about right for me. I think I get about the same SOT if I had light usage. Usually though I get 3-3.5 hours SOT with around 12 hours off the charger. I top off for an hour on the charger once a day everyday and just got used to it. A lot of times if people have longer uptimes, doze was working overnight.
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throcker said:
I never had a good battery on this phone since I bought it (second hand)
my average SoT is about 2hrs for around 15h uptime daily
I formatted many times trying to fix it, changed roms, kernels, governors, interactive profiles. nothing worked
I thought it was the battery. so I changed it by myself and it's the same, or even worse than before (lol)
Yesterday I removed my google account to see if I have too many services running. and still have 25% active drain and 3% idle (ex kernel manager stats). too much
I don't know what to do now.
1) someone suggested me to watch wakelocks but I need help on that because I don't know how exactly and what look for
2) do you think that could actually be the device? is it possible that lg could accept it as defective? I don't think so. they should be able to repeat my issue, and we know that isn't possible since battery usage is very personal
3) do you have any configuration you suggest me to try.....? maybe I'm missing something
Thank you for your attention, I hope that this thread will be useful for everyone
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Have you tried to flash it back to the stock nexus image? (Return it entirely to stock) That would be my first step in nailing down battery issues. It will completely wipe your device, but it rebuilds all the partitions and updates everything to the newest images. (Assuming you've downloaded the newest release from google). Then you can run it on pure stock for a few days and monitor it. My n5x isn't the greatest either with battery, and standby drain is brutal on nougat no matter how you configure it, but I usually get at least 4 hours of sot. It also depends what you have running. If you're using bluetooth and location services, google assistant ect, it follows the battery is going to drain much quicker. If you flash the stock image, you need adb and fastboot installed. There's lots of guides here on XDA.
@throcker, my advice: try a ROM, stock or PureNexusc, clean flashed, without GApps, any Sync off, GPS and mob data off. You should get 5-7h SOT.
EeZeEpEe said:
Personally, that's just about right for me. I think I get about the same SOT if I had light usage. Usually though I get 3-3.5 hours SOT with around 12 hours off the charger. I top off for an hour on the charger once a day everyday and just got used to it. A lot of times if people have longer uptimes, doze was working overnight.
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3hrs would be great! but my drain is too much definitely
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Have you tried to flash it back to the stock nexus image? (Return it entirely to stock) That would be my first step in nailing down battery issues. It will completely wipe your device, but it rebuilds all the partitions and updates everything to the newest images. (Assuming you've downloaded the newest release from google). Then you can run it on pure stock for a few days and monitor it. My n5x isn't the greatest either with battery, and standby drain is brutal on nougat no matter how you configure it, but I usually get at least 4 hours of sot. It also depends what you have running. If you're using bluetooth and location services, google assistant ect, it follows the battery is going to drain much quicker. If you flash the stock image, you need adb and fastboot installed. There's lots of guides here on XDA.
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I wiped completely several times, downgrading to 6.0, updating via ota, flashing lastest image, with and without encryption
I use bluetooth (g watch)
I'm very experienced on flashing and stuff, tried everything by myself, this thread is a desperate thing
rp158 said:
@throcker, my advice: try a ROM, stock or PureNexusc, clean flashed, without GApps, any Sync off, GPS and mob data off. You should get 5-7h SOT.
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tried that too....
You all wanna know what's going on now?
battery 23%
Google play services 18%
whatsapp 11%
screen 10% (1,12h)
and I don't even have google account.
@throcker: GPlay-services means, you flashed GApps. They are busy in the background without account.
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3hrs would be great! but my drain is too much definitely
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I'm sure you can hit 3 hours. Just don't expect 15 hours off the charger.
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What do you think...
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That's an extreme exception. You're on the far right side of the bell curve in battery life. I bet I can't even let YouTube play for 8 hours straight to get that kind of SOT. LOL
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Damn! What ROM/Kernel/Settings/Apps/etc?
@crazyates: PureNexus, Franco (stock), no GApps
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@crazyates: PureNexus, Franco (stock), no GApps
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What features do you lose by doing this? I'm assuming you can't install apps, but can I still sync my contacts/gmail with my google account?
@crazyates: l sync contacts&calendar with PC by MyPhoneExplorer and mail with mailserver. Free apps from GPlay by apk-downloaders.com.
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@crazyates: l sync contacts&calendar with PC by MyPhoneExplorer and mail with mailserver. Free apps from GPlay by apk-downloaders.com.
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oh $#!T.
but...I'm really bounded with google services stuff, I sync my pc chrome, keep, docs, maps....
I think I'll give this a try, but there is no way I could run that setup as my daily.....
Same here and I don't really know what to do... Really frustrating and I don't even have BT, NFC and GPS toggled on!
Use BettetBatteryStats to check for wakelocks during the night to see if something is keeping the phone awake. Then I also recommend either unplugging the phone from the charger right before going to bed or setting a custom reference point to check how much the phone drains during idle. I had the problem that my phone was draining about 2.5%/h in idle even with nothing installed, airplane mode, everything off and so on. This turned out to be a hardware problem which could only be fixed by replacing the motherboard. So check if you have the same symptoms that I did.
Ever since I updated to 8.1.0 with December security patch, I've noticed my battery draining faster than normal. I was getting 4-5 hours of SOT with around 45-50% battery left. This was after being off the charger for 12-16 hours. Now I'm getting about half the SOT at similar numbers. Anyone have any ideas?
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andrewjt19 said:
Ever since I updated to 8.1.0 with December security patch, I've noticed my battery draining faster than normal. I was getting 4-5 hours of SOT with around 45-50% battery left. This was after being off the charger for 12-16 hours. Now I'm getting about half the SOT at similar numbers. Anyone have any ideas?
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Excuse my stating the obvious, but you need to find what process or app is using the battery. You should be able to get a rough idea just using the new features under Settings>>Battery. It will identify which apps are using the most juice. Run the phone in Safe Mode to see if your battery life goes back to normal. It could also be a service like Google Play Service which sometimes wigs out and starts chewing battery. Are you rooted? If you need more detailed information there are battery drain apps available to help isolate the problem (BBS and GSam). These apps require root to give the best results.
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Excuse my stating the obvious, but you need to find what process or app is using the battery. You should be able to get a rough idea just using the new features under Settings>>Battery. It will identify which apps are using the most juice. Run the phone in Safe Mode to see if your battery life goes back to normal. It could also be a service like Google Play Service which sometimes wigs out and starts chewing battery. Are you rooted? If you need more detailed information there are battery drain apps available to help isolate the problem (BBS and GSam). These apps require root to give the best results.
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Not rooted and currently locked. I've downloaded GSAM and have adb permissions and it simply says things like Chrome, RCS Phone and Play services. If you see from the photos below you can see what I'm talking about. Chrome currently isn't that bad, but yesterday and the past couple days it's been like 9% or more of the battery.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hFvQKO7q3pZTHFNb2
Sorry the screenshots were too large for uploading.
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Not rooted and currently locked. I've downloaded GSAM and have adb permissions and it simply says things like Chrome, RCS Phone and Play services. If you see from the photos below you can see what I'm talking about. Chrome currently isn't that bad, but yesterday and the past couple days it's been like 9% or more of the battery.
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Two things: I've never seen phone or kernel use that much battery. On one page phone usage is 33 seconds, yet it used 9% ? I think RCS is running the background all the time. See if you can toggle it to not run in the background under Settings>>Apps>. High kernel I'm guessing is a kernel wakelock or multiple. You've probably loaded app(s) that are creating the problem, but you need to find out which one is causing the wakelocks. There is a wakelock detector "lite" app that doesn't need root but I don't know how well it works. I know the root version works well. Lastly, on the first screenshot with the battery, scroll to the bottom of the page and see which apps are listed there. I'd be willing to bet if you ran the phone in Safe Mode, your battery drain would disappear, meaning your user apps are causing it.
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Two things: I've never seen phone or kernel use that much battery. On one page phone usage is 33 seconds, yet it used 9% ? I think RCS is running the background all the time. See if you can toggle it to not run in the background under Settings>>Apps>. High kernel I'm guessing is a kernel wakelock or multiple. You've probably loaded app(s) that are creating the problem, but you need to find out which one is causing the wakelocks. There is a wakelock detector "lite" app that doesn't need root but I don't know how well it works. I know the root version works well. Lastly, on the first screenshot with the battery, scroll to the bottom of the page and see which apps are listed there. I'd be willing to bet if you ran the phone in Safe Mode, your battery drain would disappear, meaning your user apps are causing it.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/4v8seKwMJnceaVUG3
Well in safe mode my drain is gone so I'm not sure which app is doing it, but to directly answer your question about the RCS it is an overall app meaning it is related to several Google play services. I'll upload a photo of it. I have to reboot into normal mode.
Edit: I'm wrong about that it was the play services.. I'll have to start uninstalling the apps to determine which one is draining the battery I guess.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/4v8seKwMJnceaVUG3
Well in safe mode my drain is gone so I'm not sure which app is doing it, but to directly answer your question about the RCS it is an overall app meaning it is related to several Google play services. I'll upload a photo of it. I have to reboot into normal mode.
Edit: I'm wrong about that it was the play services.. I'll have to start uninstalling the apps to determine which one is draining the battery I guess.
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RCS can be a real battery hog, but I don't know why. I don't have RCS on AT&T. Do you use Messages as your primary SMS? Open Settings>>Advanced and see if you can toggle off "Enhanced Features". Open properties and check if it is using battery optimization. If it is not, set Messages to battery optimization. You can always turn these back on later if the battery drain remains.
My battery life has been restored to pretty much the same as it was with 8.0. I also noticed poor battery life after installing the 8.1 update, even though they changed the way battery life is estimated with this update (supposedly). Something just felt off, but now everything feels great! I am fairly certain what changed is installing the Greenify Magisk module and/or the Google play services doze module (this enables battery optimization on the Google play services app). Not sure which one really made the difference because I installed them at the same time. However, there is definitely a major difference!!
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My battery life has been restored to pretty much the same as it was with 8.0. I also noticed poor battery life after installing the 8.1 update, even though they changed the way battery life is estimated with this update (supposedly). Something just felt off, but now everything feels great! I am fairly certain what changed is installing the Greenify Magisk module and/or the Google play services doze module (this enables battery optimization on the Google play services app). Not sure which one really made the difference because I installed them at the same time. However, there is definitely a major difference!!
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Here's proof!!
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Here's proof!!
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In my experience that's really good.
Before 8.1 I noticed about 11% per hour during screen on use and about 0.33% per hour while on stand by in my pocket or a little bit better if it's just sitting on my night stand not moving while I'm sleeping (I think doze is more extreme in that situation) which seems to match what you are getting. Based on that screen shot I think that's like 8 hours screen on time over like 35 hours for a full charge. I've done a little bit better but not much. That's excellent battery life.
Since 8.1 it has dropped. Best now is maybe 7 to MAYBE 7.5 hours over maybe 26-28 hours. In my experience battery life always drops after an update but this case is far from the worst. I remember when my Nexus 5 updated from KitKat to Lollipop. The battery drop was awful and to make matters worse the battery life of the Nexus 5 was pretty bad to begin with.
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Here's proof!!
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Which font is that?
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Which font is that?
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Default. I didn't change the system font.
js042507 said:
Here's proof!!
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What are your settings for Greenify
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Prattham said:
What are your settings for Greenify
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So in my last reply I thought I was wrong about RCS Phone app being a conglomerate of several apps in the phone. For some reason I couldn't find the information I needed at that time. I wiped my phone and started over after posting this thread. I was trying to isolate the misbehaving app. I thought it might have been greenify actually, but no the drain has returned to a lesser extent though. Here's some photos of this RCS app from GSAM.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rvw077mBfNULbsRE3
I'm not sure what is causing the drain at this point. I've installed Better Battery Stats to locate the wakelocks so I can ignore them through ADB.
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andrewjt19 said:
So in my last reply I thought I was wrong about RCS Phone app being a conglomerate of several apps in the phone. For some reason I couldn't find the information I needed at that time. I wiped my phone and started over after posting this thread. I was trying to isolate the misbehaving app. I thought it might have been greenify actually, but no the drain has returned to a lesser extent though. Here's some photos of this RCS app from GSAM.
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Have you tried disabling RCS ? (Post #6). BBS is good for idle drain, active drain not so much. It's best run overnight without touching the phone for 8 hours or so. Pick the phone up in the morning and create/save a log file as quickly as possible. Post the log to the BBS thread if you need help deciphering.
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Have you tried disabling RCS ? (Post #6). BBS is good for idle drain, active drain not so much. It's best run overnight without touching the phone for 8 hours or so. Pick the phone up in the morning and create/save a log file as quickly as possible. Post the log to the BBS thread if you need help deciphering.
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I cannot disable it since it is comprised of multiple apps. You can see it in the pics on my last post.
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