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Ok so Im posting in the DEV section because this only happen with AOSP Roms what the heck is the deal with the High Android System usage I have confirmed this issue doesnt happen until you have use the phone to make or receive calls. EVERY single GB AOSP ROM I try to love has this issue. I have seen that rolling back your PRI will work..ok then my question is why dont you see this in Sense ROMs. I would love to know the REASON this is happening so any Devs that have been seeing this can you enlighten me/us??
TIA
Q&A is where this should be... wrong section
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This did the trick for me: settings<privacy<uncheck "Back up my data."
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Ok Fred, thx for the insite...., no wonder all the Devs have fired up their own Forums.
Im sure Glad people like you stand ready to do NOTHING but make yourself feel better with worthless responses like that.
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Ok Fred, thx for the insite...., no wonder all the Devs have fired up their own Forums.
Im sure Glad people like you stand ready to do NOTHING but make yourself feel better with worthless responses like that.
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Yup, following the rules makes people feel good usually.
Next, I'll point you to this post, to backup the point of this needing to be in Q&A: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12701583&postcount=10
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This did the trick for me: settings<privacy<uncheck "Back up my data."
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I tried that, didn't help. I still get it sometimes as high as 80%. Geting a replacement as alot of ppl don't have this happen and I've tried everything and then some.
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clap clap clap wow Im dazed by your depth of knowledge
I'm going to be completely ignorant and just tell you this:
Wrong Section.
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jk if they eat up too much battery don't use them? Try a different kernel?
XterierK said:
jk if they eat up too much battery don't use them? Try a different kernel?
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Tried many kernels,every flavor of AOSP Roms, rolled back the PRI and NV no change. Its painfully obvious nobody really knowns a dam thing for FACT as to why this happens. Oh well back to Sense Roms till its figured out.
MODS delete move change who cares what ever makes yah feel better.
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Ok so Im posting in the DEV section because this only happen with AOSP Roms what the heck is the deal with the High Android System usage I have confirmed this issue doesnt happen until you have use the phone to make or receive calls. EVERY single GB AOSP ROM I try to love has this issue. I have seen that rolling back your PRI will work..ok then my question is why dont you see this in Sense ROMs. I would love to know the REASON this is happening so any Devs that have been seeing this can you enlighten me/us??
TIA
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You might have your governor set to performance or something. Try flashing a custom kernal and set your governor to smartass with a min of 245 and a max of 960 or something similar like that. I was getting the same result you're properly getting where it seem like my system was over heating and draining my battery like crazy and this worked like a charm! Also, go to settings/accounts & sync/ and uncheck background data because that also drains your battery like crazy too!
Oh and it this helps, I'm running CM7 RC4 with Tiamat's 3.3.4 SBC kernal
Hope this has helped and don't let the idiots bother you dude!
I have been working with Barnicles on this very same issue . Some phones suffer from it others dont . Example I just finished talking to my mom for 30 mins . My "Android System" usage is now sitting at 85% , voice calls at 12% , cell Standby at 2% , Wifi at 2% and phone idle at 2% . Him and I believe it is something in the settings of GB that either records it incorrectly or is relabeling the usage incorrectly . I have tried it all myself from upgrading my pri to 1.90 , downgrading to 1.77 . I have tried different kernels and had no effect . I have tried turning off everything and disabling all apps no effect . We are still working on it but I dont have alot of expierence with reading and writting script , so hes mostly on that end while Im on this end trying different combinations of things to see if I can reduce it if not eliminate it . So far it seems to be pointing in the direction of either the frame work or the actual scripting . Like I said its a work in progress . Also i have tried almost all of the GB roms out there personally and they all suffer from this same issue . It makes me believe it is indeed part of the coding somewhere .
You battery probably just hates you for posting in the wrong section because of some misguided reasoning and then being an ass about it when someone calls you out.
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then being an ass about it when someone calls you out.
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Thank you for point out my flaws... DILLIGAF
Got the shirt
@southern Thank you for some real info
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Thank you for point out my flaws...
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Any time bro. Try reading next time.
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You battery probably just hates you for posting in the wrong section because of some misguided reasoning and then being an ass about it when someone calls you out.
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I can confirm that problem too! Batteries have been known to hate their stupid owners, especially ones that don't know how to read!...hahahahahaha
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Hope this has helped and don't let the idiots bother you dude!
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Thanks for the suggestions, pretty much have tried all that at some point. I think SouthernEVO is on the same line of thinking as I am it seems to be a GB issue. Wonder if the Nexus S suffers the same issue.
As to the "idiots" takes alot more than these gooobs to bother me. I rather enjoy it to be honest. Funny thing is unlike most of the keyboard commandos here Im the same in RL as here, RULES??? FUG the rules! MAKE THEM DON'T FOLLOW THEM.... LFFL
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Hope this has helped and don't let the idiots bother you dude!
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Only idiots are ones who can't understand basic rules. Oh, and those who defend their ignorance.
I havnt seen anyone complain that their battery life is effected. I have high android system usage too but I still get great battery life.
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tErbo b00st said:
I havnt seen anyone complain that their battery life is effected. I have high android system usage too but I still get great battery life.
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Once I start seeing the High Android System usage my Battery life falls on its face.
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Thanks for the suggestions, pretty much have tried all that at some point. I think SouthernEVO is on the same line of thinking as I am it seems to be a GB issue. Wonder if the Nexus S suffers the same issue.
As to the "idiots" takes alot more than these gooobs to bother me. I rather enjoy it to be honest. Funny thing is unlike most of the keyboard commandos here Im the same in RL as here, RULES??? FUG the rules! MAKE THEM DON'T FOLLOW THEM.... LFFL
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I have checked out the Nexus S forums . Most seem to complain of Display and cell stand by being the major drains on battery life . None have really complained of high android system usage . Our issue here in the HTC EVO realm seems to be its more of a cosmetic issue . Battery life doesnt seem to be impacted by it . Its still odd I can have the phone , text , surf the web , facebook and everything but when I make a phone call Android system skyrockets to the top . Maybe initially it isnt registering Android system usage at first and for some reason a call being made triggers it to appear . Not sure just been guessing at this
Anyone have an issue where a game will just shut down for no reason? Any ideas why?
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Anyone have an issue where a game will just shut down for no reason? Any ideas why?
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This has been happening to me when playing plants vs. zombies!!
I hate it!!
What's going on
games sutting down...
yes i too have the same problem!! i think its the kernel?ive tried running it at 1ghz 1.2 ghz 1.5 and 1.6...i dont have a clue as to why anyone got any ideas/
Sometimes the lock screen randomly comes on and the screen shuts off when I watch netflix. Could be the same thing.
with netflix i have no problems!!! hmmm...
I can confirm it happens with a few of my games. Gameboid (GBA emulator) does this. Where I'll be playing for a few seconds and it'll just close on me. As for n64oid, I can play it for ages and it not crash.
I think most people who play games on this phone have the issue. It may not happen on every game but I called Samsung and they have nothing documented on the problem which means there will be no fix because they dont know about it. Everyone should take 5-10 minutes to call customer support. 888-987-help. They wont fix the issue over the phone because they cant but if more people call maybe it will raise some eyebrows. They will ask you to factory reset, just tell them you already did it. They will ask you to send the phone in, tell them you just want the issue documented and escalated.
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Overstew said:
I can confirm it happens with a few of my games. Gameboid (GBA emulator) does this. Where I'll be playing for a few seconds and it'll just close on me. As for n64oid, I can play it for ages and it not crash.
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I think most people who play games on this phone have the issue. It may not happen on every game but I called Samsung and they have nothing documented on the problem which means there will be no fix because they dont know about it. Everyone should take 5-10 minutes to call customer support. 888-987-help. They wont fix the issue over the phone because they cant but if more people call maybe it will raise some eyebrows. They will ask you to factory reset, just tell them you already did it. They will ask you to send the phone in, tell them you just want the issue documented and escalated.
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I did this yesterday. And of course they never heard of this problem.
UGH, same thing on Muffin Knight.
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It happens to me while playing Nova 2 online multiplayer. I use the kick stand case ( which is quality I must say ) for normal use but when I play the game ( several trail runs performed ) I have to remove it due to heat. Rather this is true or not, my opinion for the shutoff is over heating. Plays like a charm in a cool environment with no case.
Just my 2 cents.
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mexipino said:
yes i too have the same problem!! i think its the kernel?ive tried running it at 1ghz 1.2 ghz 1.5 and 1.6...i dont have a clue as to why anyone got any ideas/
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It's not the kernel. Games were crashing on me before I rooted.
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It's not the kernel. Games were crashing on me before I rooted.
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Found this post on Sprint forums.
We all have the same problem. Rather or not you've seen doesn't mean that you don't have it. It does related to Soundpool. I understand that now. I also understand that this problem existed in the internation SGSII phones and Samsung has not released a update to fix it yet. Maybe they will later? I don't know. This problem is very old now and Samsung is giving it little attention.
I can reproduce it so easily now that I could show anyone that wants to see it. I know how it happens and a little bit of why it happens. What I don't know is how to stop it from happening. I'm tech savvy but there is limitations to my knowledge. I can't copy over the lighting rom 6.X to work with our CDMA phone and get a decent fix. It could be months before this issue is corrected.
This problem doesn't affect all games. Just a lot of games because it deals with the Soundpool. There are gameloft games that can be played without this problem ever showing up and some of those games have decent graphics. But then other gameloft games have this problem. Developers would have to completely rewrite their games to be compability with our device. That isn't going to happen anytime soon, nor is it really fair to the developer. It takes a lot of work and lot of creativity to create these games we enjoy so much. It would suck to have to attempt to redo because Samsung can't seem to get rid of their software issues.
This problem exsists on ASP roms so no solution there either.
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That is pretty much what I confirmed. We have to change the way the soundpool works or we aren't going to get this solved.
It isn't hard to make this bug appear. It has nothing to do with time played in my experience. I can easily reproduce this issue on few games.
Counting on devs for this? shameful samsung
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Found this post on Sprint forums.
That is pretty much what I confirmed. We have to change the way the soundpool works or we aren't going to get this solved.
It isn't hard to make this bug appear. It has nothing to do with time played in my experience. I can easily reproduce this issue on few games.
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How can u reproduce it? I though it was due to the phone heating up from a graphics heavy game aka dungeon defenders
Kikoshi said:
How can u reproduce it? I though it was due to the phone heating up from a graphics heavy game aka dungeon defenders
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It isn't related to the heat. It deals with how many enemies are close to you and has nothing to do with time played or heat in dungeon defenders. Make it to the third wave and stand in front of the middle door that has the most mobs coming out and it will crash everytime.
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I can confirm this happening, I've had it happen multiple times on two of my favorite games neither of which I'd consider extremely graphics intensive. Word Mix and Random Factor Mahjong.
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UGH, same thing on Muffin Knight.
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Don't you have latest version? This was happening to me on this game, too, then I realized my version needed to be updated. Did the update and not having problems anymore.
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Don't you have latest version? This was happening to me on this game, too, then I realized my version needed to be updated. Did the update and not having problems anymore.
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I have the update and it's still happening and it's really starting to tick me off since I'm starting to do decently.
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This is happening to me on Jewellust after playing the game for 2 or 3 boards. I don't consider this to be TOO graphic intensive; the phone barely heats up. Is this happening on other GS2 phones or just Sprints?
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This is happening to me on Jewellust after playing the game for 2 or 3 boards. I don't consider this to be TOO graphic intensive; the phone barely heats up. Is this happening on other GS2 phones or just Sprints?
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There's a post and another forum saying it's linked to sound board issue!! But Samsung has done nothing to resolve it
Reading these forums, i've noticed quite a few people have got faulty phones. What should I look out for and how can I tell I've got a fully functioning model?
I heard that that screen flickering issue was a software bug so I don't think I need to worry about that?
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Reading these forums, i've noticed quite a few people have got faulty phones. What should I look out for and how can I tell I've got a fully functioning model?
I heard that that screen flickering issue was a software bug so I don't think I need to worry about that?
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First off, I would stop reading about problems and enjoy your device. Everyone is so worried about the screen falling off and what tint/flashing. I'm sure problems exist, but don't spend all your time going over it with a magnifier to find something. Enjoy it !
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First off, I would stop reading about problems and enjoy your device. Everyone is so worried about the screen falling off and what tint/flashing. I'm sure problems exist, but don't spend all your time going over it with a magnifier to find something. Enjoy it !
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Best advice I read here in a while! Reading these forums is like watching medical shows on tv.
Look here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26000212#post26000212
Credits to hamdir !
Cheers~
You should look out for a courier will be carrying a package in your name.
seriously
It's highly unlikely you will get a phone with issues which were found in the first lot of handsets.
has anybody asked the dev of safestrap, or even tried it out yet? the locked bootloader is the next big problem, i assume. and as far as i get it the "fire os" is the same on "fire"-devices.
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meningitiscerebrospinalis said:
has anybody asked the dev of safestrap, or even tried it out yet? the locked bootloader is the next big problem, i assume. and as far as i get it the "fire os" is the same on "fire"-devices.
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JCASE demonstrated booting unsigned code from USB... so we dont NEED to unlock the bootloader although it would be nice.
What we really need is a custom recovery and a way to boot it.. perhaps JCASE will chime in now that the root is out..
last i saw his signature says he is away for an undetermined amount of time :crying:
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last i saw his signature says he is away for an undetermined amount of time :crying:
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lol his sig has said that for an undetermined amount of time
May be we can write custom recovery using dd an then boot it?
I would think anyone that is willing to test unknown methods either has money to burn or a hardware flasher.
Just checked safestrap, no luck.
May be we can port loki. Platform looks similar for me, but offsets is different.
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iRet said:
Just checked safestrap, no luck.
May be we can port loki. Platform looks similar for me, but offsets is different.
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Looks like a few people have been looking into this, but haven't seen much activity recently. Just chiming in to see if there have been any advances on this front? Either progress, or a determination that it's too difficult at this point?
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Looks like a few people have been looking into this, but haven't seen much activity recently. Just chiming in to see if there have been any advances on this front? Either progress, or a determination that it's too difficult at this point?
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So I was thinking about 2nd-init and getting SafeStrap working. I need to keep looking and figure out the best place to start the 2nd-init.
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So I was thinking about 2nd-init and getting SafeStrap working. I need to keep looking and figure out the best place to start the 2nd-init.
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Thanks for answering Happy to hear that people are still trying this. I'm wondering, once Android TV is released, the hardware on this device seems to be pretty powerful and it might be a great experience, if we can figure out how to get it on there.
Good luck, rbox! And thx for the xposed mods
Just be aware that the first thing that will stop working with an unlocked bootloader will be Netflix HD. I don't have Prime so can't comment on that.
You will be limited to 720x480 resolution - 1750kbps.
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Thanks for answering Happy to hear that people are still trying this. I'm wondering, once Android TV is released, the hardware on this device seems to be pretty powerful and it might be a great experience, if we can figure out how to get it on there.
Good luck, rbox! And thx for the xposed mods
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I was able to find the best spot to do the 2nd init, and it seemed to be working, but unfortunately I'm having some problems getting TWRP to actually display even though I'm doing exactly the same thing I did with clockwork. Luckily it's a long weekend, so I should have some time to debug it.
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I was able to find the best spot to do the 2nd init, and it seemed to be working, but unfortunately I'm having some problems getting TWRP to actually display even though I'm doing exactly the same thing I did with clockwork. Luckily it's a long weekend, so I should have some time to debug it.
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thank you for the work u put into this device. i got it a few days back and have it decked out i hope by the end of summer this device will have a working recovery and maybe a rom or 2
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thank you for the work u put into this device. i got it a few days back and have it decked out i hope by the end of summer this device will have a working recovery and maybe a rom or 2
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Summer only has a couple of weeks left... I also hope we can crack the bootloafer or at least get boot strap or something similar working, but I am not going to hold my breath. I AM very happy with how well it is working though, especially as an xbmc/kodi box! Hope we can get the mic button working in kodi.
First thing first, I'm not an tech guru, im just a humble guy wondering things. I dont know any fancy terms you guys use. My only experiense is using Android 9 in my 10y/o gt n8000. So if you guys can explain stuff easily, that would be really nice.
As we all know A71 and M51 are pretty similar on paper. M51 is better on hardware and A71 on software (at least that what i know). So i thougt to myself... is it possible to use A71 rom on M51? And if so, would it let us use Good Lock modules and/or let us record videos in 60 fps?
Also another thing... i have heard that using wrong roms on wrong devices can cause pretty big deals, mainly hard bricking the device. I also heard that even if the specs are similar, things coded differently for different devices. Like chipset id, screen size and stuff like that. Is there any possibility to change A71 rom in a way, like rewriting some parts of the code, to work on M51?
Using Good Lock modules or 60 fps camera is not my goal. I know that there is a few trick out there to make it happen. I just wondered that would this theory work? If anyone can help me in this silly project, that would be awesome. Thanks for reading and have a fine fine day.
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First thing first, I'm not an tech guru, im just a humble guy wondering things. I dont know any fancy terms you guys use. My only experiense is using Android 9 in my 10y/o gt n8000. So if you guys can explain stuff easily, that would be really nice.
As we all know A71 and M51 are pretty similar on paper. M51 is better on hardware and A71 on software (at least that what i know). So i thougt to myself... is it possible to use A71 rom on M51? And if so, would it let us use Good Lock modules and/or let us record videos in 60 fps?
Also another thing... i have heard that using wrong roms on wrong devices can cause pretty big deals, mainly hard bricking the device. I also heard that even if the specs are similar, things coded differently for different devices. Like chipset id, screen size and stuff like that. Is there any possibility to change A71 rom in a way, like rewriting some parts of the code, to work on M51?
Using Good Lock modules or 60 fps camera is not my goal. I know that there is a few trick out there to make it happen. I just wondered that would this theory work? If anyone can help me in this silly project, that would be awesome. Thanks for reading and have a fine fine day.
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I don't think it would be possible? As good lock is Samsung's properitory software and are closed-source.
it would take a huge kernel rewrite with driver changes and other technical details that I'm not well versed with ROM development to know about.
Just knowing that trying to recreate Samsung's stock roms would be very difficult or impossible to say at least
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I don't think it would be possible? As good lock is Samsung's properitory software and are closed-source.
it would take a huge kernel rewrite with driver changes and other technical details that I'm not well versed with ROM development to know about.
Just knowing that trying to recreate Samsung's stock roms would be very difficult or impossible to say at least
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Thank you for your answer.
So, let's say we just flash the A71 rom without any changes whatsoever... would it work, what would be the outcome, what's the worst case scenario?
And is there any method or a way of checking if the rom works without sacrificing a phone? Cuz i bought the phone like a year ago and since then it's price just straight up tripled.
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Thank you for your answer.
So, let's say we just flash the A71 rom without any changes whatsoever... would it work, what would be the outcome, what's the worst case scenario?
And is there any method or a way of checking if the rom works without sacrificing a phone? Cuz i bought the phone like a year ago and since then it's price just straight up tripled.
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It's probably gonna lead to a brick or not even flash because of incompatibility, even if we tried to flash on Odin
Firstly, thank you for answering my dumb questions. That means a lot for me. I really appreciate it.
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It's probably gonna lead to a brick or not even flash because of incompatibility, even if we tried to flash on Odin
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My question is if that happens can it be fixed, like, via TWRP or by any means? Like a full data / cache erase or something like that can fix it?
Brick? Depends yeah we can just by flashing through fastboot again
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Firstly, thank you for answering my dumb questions. That means a lot for me. I really appreciate it.
My question is if that happens can it be fixed, like, via TWRP or by any means? Like a full data / cache erase or something like that can fix it?
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