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few noob questions after finally rooting

Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I finally gave in and fully rooted my EVO and successfully flashed the newest damagecontrol rom. Afterwards, I took some time and set up my phone like how it used to be with the apps, settings, etc. Just a few questions from after this.
If I wanted to flash a different ROM, it is recommended to do a data wipe, correct? And also a NAND backup. Does this mean that my phone will be reset to factory settings again - using the new ROM as a base? In other words, would I have to rearrange my screens, settings, etc. if I wanted to try out a new ROM?
If not a different ROM, but an updated version of my current ROM, do I just flash that on top of what I have? (i.e. DC4.0 is released, do I have to wipe everything again before upgrading?)
If the answer is yes to both these questions, what are the easiest/quickest ways to get my phone looking/acting the way I like when getting a new ROM?

also, I followed toast's method step by step, and got the Amon Ra recovery on my phone as well. What is the function of this? Sorry for all the questions, I have everything working fine, but I'm just curious as to what and how things work on the phone. What is the difference between the amon ra recovery and following steps to use clockword for recovery?
Thanks a lot

baxtercat said:
Hey guys, long time lurker, first time poster.
I finally gave in and fully rooted my EVO and successfully flashed the newest damagecontrol rom. Afterwards, I took some time and set up my phone like how it used to be with the apps, settings, etc. Just a few questions from after this.
1. If I wanted to flash a different ROM, it is recommended to do a data wipe, correct? And also a NAND backup. Does this mean that my phone will be reset to factory settings again - using the new ROM as a base? In other words, would I have to rearrange my screens, settings, etc. if I wanted to try out a new ROM?
2. If not a different ROM, but an updated version of my current ROM, do I just flash that on top of what I have? (i.e. DC4.0 is released, do I have to wipe everything again before upgrading?)
If the answer is yes to both these questions, what are the easiest/quickest ways to get my phone looking/acting the way I like when getting a new ROM?
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baxtercat said:
also, I followed toast's method step by step, and got the Amon Ra recovery on my phone as well. What is the function of this? Sorry for all the questions, I have everything working fine, but I'm just curious as to what and how things work on the phone. What is the difference between the amon ra recovery and following steps to use clockword for recovery?
Thanks a lot
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Hello there, iv done videos on this rom for youtube, if you want the links let me know but ill go as it follows.
Ok, if you want to test out new roms, just do a nand backup of the one you have now, after that. WIPE both Factory and Delvic cache. Then flash the new rom in your phone adn you will be fine.
Ok, i know DC does this, i dont know about the others yet, But if a new update comes out, just flash that DC update over yours and it will be fine. All user data will be there. YOU shouldn't have boot loop ether. If so, then you will have to wipe again. I didn't and im fine. ( I use fresh evo right now. loving it. )
As for the NAND backup. This saves EVERYTHING so once you are tired of a old rom and wanna try another, just restory the back up and your fine.

super-6-1 said:
Hello there, iv done videos on this rom for youtube, if you want the links let me know but ill go as it follows.
Ok, if you want to test out new roms, just do a nand backup of the one you have now, after that. WIPE both Factory and Delvic cache. Then flash the new rom in your phone adn you will be fine.
Ok, i know DC does this, i dont know about the others yet, But if a new update comes out, just flash that DC update over yours and it will be fine. All user data will be there. YOU shouldn't have boot loop ether. If so, then you will have to wipe again. I didn't and im fine. ( I use fresh evo right now. loving it. )
As for the NAND backup. This saves EVERYTHING so once you are tired of a old rom and wanna try another, just restory the back up and your fine.
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Wow, thanks for the quick reply! That cleared up a lot of things for me.
So if I have everything set up the way I want, it is recommended to do a NAND backup at this point?
Also, what are the pros/cons of using Rom Manager (marketplace)?
Thanks a lot

baxtercat said:
Wow, thanks for the quick reply! That cleared up a lot of things for me.
So if I have everything set up the way I want, it is recommended to do a NAND backup at this point?
Also, what are the pros/cons of using Rom Manager (marketplace)?
Thanks a lot
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well if i was you, wait till you wanna flash something else THEN do a nand back up.
as far as rom manager goes, i dont use it. I just come on here and see whats new and what going on, you get a lot more from here then on rom manager, Plus, its free

super-6-1 said:
well if i was you, wait till you wanna flash something else THEN do a nand back up.
as far as rom manager goes, i dont use it. I just come on here and see whats new and what going on, you get a lot more from here then on rom manager, Plus, its free
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This is what I was thinking as well. Thanks
could you be kind enough to explain the different recovery files and their uses?

baxtercat said:
This is what I was thinking as well. Thanks
could you be kind enough to explain the different recovery files and their uses?
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what do you mean? like the different kinds of recoverys? Really i just stay with toasts, his is more stable and as far as the clockmod one, It has issues with formatting the Factory cashe.

Honestly, for someone that is completely new to flashing roms, backing up etc., Rom Mgr. is the best thing for you. You may not have the absolute cutting edge of available roms, but it makes flashing/backing up extremely easy and straightforward. That is how I got started with my previous Droid until I felt comfortable enough to flash the old fashion way. I have literally flashed and backed up hundreds of times using clockwork mod (rom manager recovery) and have not had a single issue. Plus, the app is only a couple bucks if I remembe correctly. I would start there to gain some experience, then move on to flashing zips from here.
just my opinion.

Will rom manager work if I have Amon RA's Recovery?

I think it may replace your recovery

[Q] How to update a custom ROM?

Hi, I am using a desire HD with the sabsa prime 6.0 rom installed. Version 7.0 is already out and I want to know how to update my rom from 6.0 to 7.0 without deleting anything and with everything to stay the same just like stock rom updates. Is this possible? Please reply.

Sure it's easy. Just flash the new version in recovery without wiping anything and you're good to go.
I have done this many times before with no problems.

Muikkuman said:
Sure it's easy. Just flash the new version in recovery without wiping anything and you're good to go.
I have done this many times before with no problems.
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Thanks bro

I know its a pain in the ass to restore everything and it always seems more easier to flash ROMs without wiping anything. But I'd still suggest wiping before flashing for stability reasons. You might encounter some FC's or even crashes.. say if you lose your data because of a crash.. then you'll have no way to recover because you were lazy and never backed up anything.
There are ways to backup almost everything : sms, call logs, apps, etc.. Use them. Or at the very least take a nandroid backup before you flash a new version without wiping.

Yes Do that. Make a Nandroid backup before flashing without full wipe. Some crash can happen so you can come back to 6.0 version. If there's no crash and no lags it would be cool for you.
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[Q] Giant Mess, need help please.

I am kind of stuck and have searched endlessly...
I am rooted and running AOKP - d2att (4.2.1 JOP40D) Build 1.17.2013
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747
I am trying to update the Rom - Everytime I have updated, I get the "unfortunately, android keyboard (aosp) has stopped" error. I just restore a backup and go to my older version again.
I was preparing to make another backup and noticed I'm out of space, my System Data is taking up 7,938MB!!! I have no idea why or how it got so out of control. I attempted to just do a Factory Reset, it looked as if it worked... however nothing was wiped.
Right now I'm just at a crossroads. I like the custom Rom (minus some serious flaws) but want to be able to update and have some free space. But I'm starting to think returning it to the stock firmware and just settling might be easier?
Any ideas on where I can clear up some space or what I can do to battle the AOSP error? Is there another Rom that may be a better choice, iI know they aren't "better" but an equal alternative maybe. I'm fairly new to all of this but have a decent understanding, I made a switch to Android after owning purely Iphones since the 3G.

SynysterNate said:
I am kind of stuck and have searched endlessly...
I am rooted and running AOKP - d2att (4.2.1 JOP40D) Build 1.17.2013
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747
I am trying to update the Rom - Everytime I have updated, I get the "unfortunately, android keyboard (aosp) has stopped" error. I just restore a backup and go to my older version again.
I was preparing to make another backup and noticed I'm out of space, my System Data is taking up 7,938MB!!! I have no idea why or how it got so out of control. I attempted to just do a Factory Reset, it looked as if it worked... however nothing was wiped.
Right now I'm just at a crossroads. I like the custom Rom (minus some serious flaws) but want to be able to update and have some free space. But I'm starting to think returning it to the stock firmware and just settling might be easier?
Any ideas on where I can clear up some space or what I can do to battle the AOSP error? Is there another Rom that may be a better choice, iI know they aren't "better" but an equal alternative maybe. I'm fairly new to all of this but have a decent understanding, I made a switch to Android after owning purely Iphones since the 3G.
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Have you tried reflashing the ROM completely again from scratch with a full wipe ?
HOw are you installing the ROM ? When people say update I wonder if they mena a full wipe and flash of the ROM or are you using an updater

hednik said:
Have you tried reflashing the ROM completely again from scratch with a full wipe ?
HOw are you installing the ROM ? When people say update I wonder if they mena a full wipe and flash of the ROM or are you using an updater
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Once I download the update I reboot into recovery. wipe cache and dalvik cache. I make a backup and then..
-install zip from sdcard
-choose zip from sdcard
then pick the downloaded update and then repeat the process with the gapps.
Once it loads, all my contacts and things appear there.. with the AOSP error.
I think after explaining this and reading your post, I should do a full wipe and install the newest version of the ROM. I hate to be a pest, what would be the best way to do this. I have Titanium Backup Pro. I really only care about my contacts and text messages and some apps.

SynysterNate said:
Once I download the update I reboot into recovery. wipe cache and dalvik cache. I make a backup and then..
-install zip from sdcard
-choose zip from sdcard
then pick the downloaded update and then repeat the process with the gapps.
Once it loads, all my contacts and things appear there.. with the AOSP error.
I think after explaining this and reading your post, I should do a full wipe and install the newest version of the ROM. I hate to be a pest, what would be the best way to do this. I have Titanium Backup Pro. I really only care about my contacts and text messages and some apps.
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You have have to flash the updated gapps if you aren't. They are made for 4.2.2 and nothing earlier. If you flash the same gapps as you flashed earlier you'll get loads of issues.
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KorGuy123 said:
You have have to flash the updated gapps if you aren't. They are made for 4.2.2 and nothing earlier. If you flash the same gapps as you flashed earlier you'll get loads of issues.
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Ok, so I have ran the update gapps as well previously. A current status update. I backed up all my pictures, contacts and ran backup of system data with Titanium Pro. I wiped cache, cleared the Delvik cache, wiped data.. just realized I wasn't going into Mounts and Storage and not doing a format /system. That might explain why it was getting so massive. After doing those in the correct order, I flashed the ROM and Gapps and new Kernal. Its currently booting...
Success.. Its up and running the new Rom, however.. I have a new question. I have no apps and everything is back to how it all started. I know I can run titanium backup and restore things. But google is automatically installing my apps back one by one. There has to be a correct way to do this? I'm patiently waiting for it to install titanium so I can restore my texts and settings.

SynysterNate said:
Knew I was missing something.. I'm stuck now, I don't have enough free space for the new Rom, Gapps and a backup.
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you dont have to make a backup every single time you want to update. thats whats taking up all your internal memory. i have 1 stock backup that i made the day i flashed aokp 4.1.2 and then 1 backup of my current setup. if i ever want/need to restore, i'm all set. if you want to make a backup every single time, move the older files to your PC and keep your most recent 1 or 2 on the phone. that'll give you enough space to move forward

SynysterNate said:
But google is automatically installing my apps back one by one. There has to be a correct way to do this? I'm patiently waiting for it to install titanium so I can restore my texts and settings.
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Google restoring apps is an option you set during the one time initial setup.
you shouldn't be restoring system data, and it sounds like you're doing that. there are apps to restore texts easily. one that I use is sms backup and restore, which works well and takes maybe a minute.
it's cumbersome to remember every setting so I'd suggest writing them down or something similar.
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CM10.1 Freezing issue and message not sent error.

Hey guys,
First post here,
i was searching around for my problem, and i haven't found an accurate answer so thought to share my problem and hopefully find an answer.
i am from Canada, Edmonton, and i am with Rogers.
First problem,
i run CM 10.1 and Most the NIGHTLY updates they were butter smooth and works great, until Update number CM-10.120130317 till the current update. All the updates i download, my phone freezes LOT! example of how it freezes , i try to unlock my phone, it freezes . I try to write something it freezes . and sometimes when its on sleep it freezes i can't turn the screen on again! so i always downgrade to CM-10.120130316 to have that stable ROM.
I did the wipe date /factory reset from the ROM manager, and wipe cache and dalvik. and yet the problem is not solve.
So my question is, dose anyone facing the same problem? or it's just me?
Second Problem
am having this beyond annoying notification, where it says my message has not been sent! but my message get's sent and all acts normal. But i always get notification and its never gone. I have screen shoot the problem. Is there a way i can fix this? i've have attached in the thread.
if you guys have any questions or want me to provide some information please do ask.
Looking forward to hear the feedback.
Cheers,

for starts, you're running nightlies and you need to remember that. i'm not an advocate of these, but thats just my opinion. you generally cant run a non-perfected piece of software and repeatedly dirty flash layers of updates on top. you will generally begin to experience bugs that can only be fixed with a full wipe and clean install.
that being said, i would either 1) commit to these cm10.1 nightlies and perhaps even just stick with 1 of them thats working well for you or 2), find a stable 4.1 or 4.2 rom and install after a full wipe. backup first.

There's a warning that these builds are unstable and use them at your own risk. I use cm10.1 20130317 build and it is extremely stable. A few quirks but nothing major. I plan on sticking with it since the 3.4 kernel on the newer nightlies isn't optimized yet, which result is lower battery life.
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xBeerdroiDx said:
for starts, you're running nightlies and you need to remember that. i'm not an advocate of these, but thats just my opinion. you generally cant run a non-perfected piece of software and repeatedly dirty flash layers of updates on top. you will generally begin to experience bugs that can only be fixed with a full wipe and clean install.
that being said, i would either 1) commit to these cm10.1 nightlies and perhaps even just stick with 1 of them thats working well for you or 2), find a stable 4.1 or 4.2 rom and install after a full wipe. backup first.
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Domoo said:
There's a warning that these builds are unstable and use them at your own risk. I use cm10.1 20130317 build and it is extremely stable. A few quirks but nothing major. I plan on sticking with it since the 3.4 kernel on the newer nightlies isn't optimized yet, which result is lower battery life.
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Thank you guys for the time to post in my thread. Alright, i will stick with update that runs well in my cellphone..
However for my second problem, do you know how i can fix that problem? i am talking about the message not sent notification.
Thanks in advance!

xBeerdroiDx said:
that being said, i would either 1) commit to these cm10.1 nightlies and perhaps even just stick with 1 of them thats working well for you or 2), find a stable 4.1 or 4.2 rom and install after a full wipe. backup first.
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MH_91 said:
However for my second problem, do you know how i can fix that problem? i am talking about the message not sent notification.
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assuming you have a stable backup to rely on, i would wipe data/factory rest, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and reflash either your current update or (preferably) the one you were running with no problems before. perhaps flash the one listed by a user above that seems to be running well

xBeerdroiDx said:
assuming you have a stable backup to rely on, i would wipe data/factory rest, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache and reflash either your current update or (preferably) the one you were running with no problems before. perhaps flash the one listed by a user above that seems to be running well
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Yes, i am have backed up all my stuff. oddly, i did all that you have mentioned last weekend, and still i got those glitches and the text matter it was gone at the start, but i got it back again.
Noob question, what dose "Flash" exactly means? maybe i know what flash step is, but i didnt know it was called by that term lol..

MH_91 said:
Yes, i am have backed up all my stuff. oddly, i did all that you have mentioned last weekend, and still i got those glitches and the text matter it was gone at the start, but i got it back again.
Noob question, what dose "Flash" exactly means? maybe i know what flash step is, but i didnt know it was called by that term lol..
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and you tried flashing a different (previous) version of cm10.1 when you did that? there's always a full wipe. that includes formatting /system in recovery.
flash = install.

xBeerdroiDx said:
and you tried flashing a different (previous) version of cm10.1 when you did that? there's always a full wipe. that includes formatting /system in recovery.
flash = install.
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Interesting.. i have got an idea i will try to do it hopefully by tonight or tomorrow. and i will share the results.
i was thinking to manually download the latest update nightlies instead of my phone update it for me, and then do the wipe thing and then i install it manually, maybe that will fix my problem.
am using G cloud for my backup and it dose his job pretty well. I wanted to use the Titanium backup but it kinda was too complicated for me.
Why they just don't call it "install" instead of Flash then lol?

MH_91 said:
Interesting.. i have got an idea i will try to do it hopefully by tonight or tomorrow. and i will share the results.
i was thinking to manually download the latest update nightlies instead of my phone update it for me, and then do the wipe thing and then i install it manually, maybe that will fix my problem.
am using G cloud for my backup and it dose his job pretty well. I wanted to use the Titanium backup but it kinda was too complicated for me.
Why they just don't call it "install" instead of Flash then lol?
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avoid using the OTA update feature on your phone. i didnt know you were doing things that way. you'll notice many more bugs and problems that route.
you are on the right path when you say download the actual update (latest release) yourself. make sure you have the gapps to go with it. boot into cwm, wipe data/both cache, flash rom, flash gapps

xBeerdroiDx said:
avoid using the OTA update feature on your phone. i didnt know you were doing things that way. you'll notice many more bugs and problems that route.
you are on the right path when you say download the actual update (latest release) yourself. make sure you have the gapps to go with it. boot into cwm, wipe data/both cache, flash rom, flash gapps
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Will do mate! Thank you so much for your kind help! i really appreciated it. i will for sure share the results with you very soon.
Have a good one.

Need guidance on new flash!

For dirty flash its very easy to have all the configs and apps intact, but sometimes its recommended to have new flash or all features don't work in dirty flash so new flash is obvious.
And here remains the challenge, to get/restore everything back after the new flash. So I like to know from the experts about the easiest way to restore/get back everything (configs/apps/etc) without installing app by app and config everything individually again.
What is the best/full proved way to restore after a new flash?

iconsort said:
For dirty flash its very easy to have all the configs and apps intact, but sometimes its recommended to have new flash or all features don't work in dirty flash so new flash is obvious.
And here remains the challenge, to get/restore everything back after the new flash. So I like to know from the experts about the easiest way to restore/get back everything (configs/apps/etc) without installing app by app and config everything individually again.
What is the best/full proved way to restore after a new flash?
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I always use Miui backup.
Enviado desde mi MI MAX mediante Tapatalk

Does MiUi backup works with Custom ROMs also?
I am more concerned with custom roms like RR, Lineage, etc.

iconsort said:
For dirty flash its very easy to have all the configs and apps intact, but sometimes its recommended to have new flash or all features don't work in dirty flash so new flash is obvious.
And here remains the challenge, to get/restore everything back after the new flash. So I like to know from the experts about the easiest way to restore/get back everything (configs/apps/etc) without installing app by app and config everything individually again.
What is the best/full proved way to restore after a new flash?
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I think there is not one way for all the cases. Better way is firstly via recovery TWRP only in case that be the same rom, I try ever first this option but not always works, you can backup absolutely all but maybe don´t restore all properly if you downgrade or upgrade to other version (i.e from marshmallow to nougat or from miui to lineageOs or viceversa), other possibility is make a flashable zip with all your apps, there are some tutorials about that, but never turned out for me. There are obviously different between settings from different roms. Finally after years of flash several roms I opt ever for Titanium Backup to restore data just from some apps like WhatsApp, browsers or games with records and install all my apps with ES File Explorer using multiselection and click then one by one, also there is a file explorer with root installer, more faster to install like fx file explorer in Google Play

Thanks a lot SubwayChamp for your response.
on more question: is there any way to automate the things that I usually do after any new flash one by one, its like running a script kind of thing?

iconsort said:
Thanks a lot SubwayChamp for your response.
on more question: is there any way to automate the things that I usually do after any new flash one by one, its like running a script kind of thing?
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The problem will be mainly data restauration maybe for the incompatibility between different versions of firmware like marshmallow to nougat or versions of rom restoring data from miui to lineageOs. Any script (if exists) will do the same like recovery restoring data but that doesn´t change the stage. I didn´t find any app that can restore a multiselection by i.e of 20 apps without ask one by one to install, maybe someone knows and want to share. Here you have other method to backup and restore from pc, I didn´t use yet, but if you give a try, here´s the link of github of the app https://github.com/koush/support-wiki/wiki/Helium-Desktop-Installer-and-Android-App

SubwayChamp said:
The problem will be mainly data restauration maybe for the incompatibility between different versions of firmware like marshmallow to nougat or versions of rom restoring data from miui to lineageOs. Any script (if exists) will do the same like recovery restoring data but that doesn´t change the stage. I didn´t find any app that can restore a multiselection by i.e of 20 apps without ask one by one to install, maybe someone knows and want to share. Here you have other method to backup and restore from pc, I didn´t use yet, but if you give a try, here´s the link of github of the app https://github.com/koush/support-wiki/wiki/Helium-Desktop-Installer-and-Android-App
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Paid Titanium Backup restores all apps/data without questions asked...