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[General] How do you people value your own information?

I'm asking this because after the Sony/SOE hacking (which I am somewhat affected by), it's got me thinking.
There are some online services that I've been trying to remove myself form (since before that happened), and companies make it virtually impossible in some cases to get themselves removed from these services.
The biggest example is Facebook. It's literally impossible to remove yourself from facebook. It gives you no decent way to see a list of Pages you have "Liked" and there is no way to remove all of your posts from the site.
Twitter makes this easy... Foursquare makes this easy. Loopt makes this easy...
But it seems companies that are big into Advertising make it as hard as possible for you to decouple yourself form them.
Slacker and Pandora have no such option to remove yourself from those sites after you create your account (and it's impossible to purge your personal information from them unless yo go through hoops and bounds to do so). Contrarily, Last.FM makes it as easy as a button click and some confirmations.
Yahoo! and Google make it easy to delete accounts, but Windows Live basically leaves the account sitting there for something like 4-6 months before it's deleted...
Provided there are decent confirmations, I think any online services should allow any user who willingly signed up for it to willingly walk away from it, and take their personal data and information with them. It seems like a huge power grab by the industry to lock users into them and own our information...
I've already written my Congressman and Senator following an issue with AOL where it took literally weeks of constant phones calls for them to delete my old accounts that I haven't used in forever. Finally they agreed to "waive" the "we don't delete accounts" rule because I was in the military for years following the account creation and they had it on record since I canceled my AOL service that I was doing so because I was being deployed back then...
What do people think. Do you think it's cool that companies expect to own our information after we sign up for their services and make it extremely difficult if not outright impossible to decouple ourselves from them?
Or do you want to be denied a job (or admissions into a university) because you posted something tasteless or inflamatory on facebook one night? (yes, universitiy admissions are starting to check social networks)?
For the past 3 months or so I've been trying to close down all these unneeded services that I have subscribed to in the past, and have been met with several brick walls.
It's even impossible to delete accounts on forums these days, which is uber laughable as well...
I'm thinking about quitting facebook, but getting all my stuff off of there is looking like an impossible task...
EDIT: Pandora finally got around to deleting my account... But I did send them like 5 emails today before they got around to it at 10:50 PM (first contacted them like 2 months ago).

I agree with you that all services you willingly sign up for should be as easy to leave as they were to join, it makes sense.
I'm on Facebook, several tech forums, I use several cloud based services (mail etc.) and I try not to post too many things that would make me look bad.
Facebook has by far been the most problematic to get off, you can deactivate your account but not really remove it.
/J

that's a funny question. It's not ha ha funny but it's funny to jump through those hoops. As far as information shared, on social networking, I know its vitally important to keep professionalism especially in clinical psychology. Personally, if my posts aren't related to tech or anime, I don't post it on social networking. I call a person, I write an angry email or something, but rarely do I kvetch on a social networking platform. Because it's a bad idea...
I mean I have opened a second fb account and surprisingly my first FB is still open. It doesn't bother me because it is "dead" for all intents and purposes. Honestly I just really don't mind it personally, but again that's just me. I'm not the type to post inflammatory material. I guess its different strokes.
However, I do agree, it should be easy to delete your own account. But I have to correct you on yahoo specifically. You can recover the account if its deleted. It's rather easy and I've done it multiple times. I think after a year (for yahoo specifically) then its gone. But otherwise, nope it's still there.

Yahoo! gave me an instant way to delete my account hte last time I did it. It was instant, with no recovery. I checked immediately afterwards when I did it and there was no way to recover the account. Perhaps that is a new development.
Both Yahoo! and Google allow you instant account deletion (or did, IRT the former). Microsoft keeps the accounts for something like 120 days (used to be 45, then 60, etc.) and AOL seemingly keeps them forever because the account I had to go through the run-around to delete hadn't been used for years (almost a decade), but had a ton of personal information on it that I couldn't change because I didn't remember an old secret answer so I couldn't even log in to get it off there (I used to have AOL internet access).
I went back and deleted almost all of my posts on Facebook. It took over 6 hours because you have to personally track down every comment you've made on the site (including those on walls of people no longer on your friend's list). This is intentionally convoluded compared to Twitter, where all of your tweets and retweets are there in a list and it took like 5 minutes to delete them...

As much as I despise Facebook's practice of making accounts hard to delete I've been wondering for a while if it is a result of a fragile database structure they are using. N8ter 's description of having to manually remove comments all over the place makes me wonder if Facebook's database structure has some sort of vulnerability to having data scattered in so many places removed.
Granted, it's prolly more likely they make it difficult because they can.

What do you mean, "you people"?

Nice one
Suppose I.walked right into that
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So... let me get this straight,
You signed on to privately owned websites, handed over private information/made incriminating posts (in any capacity)... and now you're complaining about it?
In boardroom meetings in those companies, people like you are punchlines.
Nothing on the internet is private. Let me repeat that; nothing on the internet is private.
Learn it, know it, love it.

I think your missing the point.
Facebook makes it almost impossible for people to leave after they've used the service a lot. You have to track down every comment and wall post and delete them one by one, among other things before they will delete your account.
Blacker flat out refuses to delete accounts even after several emails. They don't consider email private information... ... ...
Other services just make it impossible. Google voice makes it impossible ti remove the service or your phone number. Aol generally flat out refuses to delete accounts. Windows live wants your info to stay there for six months.
Its not about it not being private, its about me not having a choice in whether or not my personal info sits on their server.
Having a ton of extra accounts increases spam email, among other things...
Hope that cleared up my stance a bit...
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N8ter said:
The biggest example is Facebook. It's literally impossible to remove yourself from facebook. It gives you no decent way to see a list of Pages you have "Liked"
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I thought you could see those pages in "Download Your Information"
http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=18830

N8ter said:
I think your missing the point.
Facebook makes it almost impossible for people to leave after they've used the service a lot. You have to track down every comment and wall post and delete them one by one, among other things before they will delete your account.
Blacker flat out refuses to delete accounts even after several emails. They don't consider email private information... ... ...
Other services just make it impossible. Google voice makes it impossible ti remove the service or your phone number. Aol generally flat out refuses to delete accounts. Windows live wants your info to stay there for six months.
Its not about it not being private, its about me not having a choice in whether or not my personal info sits on their server.
Having a ton of extra accounts increases spam email, among other things...
Hope that cleared up my stance a bit...
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honestly, I know what you mean. Its very annoying and frustrating. But just take it all as a lesson that these are all private companies. Neither you or I have any right to an expectation of privacy. Its a hard truth to face. My Facebook profile is as dry as a bone. I never post or submit any info I wouldn't be comfortable with the whole world knowing.
Until there is a government-run social networking platform, just understand that.

Tone_ said:
I thought you could see those pages in "Download Your Information"
http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=18830
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No. That's only to download your pictures, videos, and stuff like that if you want a hard copy or to put it on another social network/profile.
For example, if you want to put all your facebook stuff on your Windows Live Profile, but they don't exist on your computer/smartphone anymore...
Also, that won't remove the ridiculous amount of manual labor involved in tracking down every comment/wall post and deleting them one by one...
All that information is trivially seen by clicking on "Profile" at the Facebook homepage. It shows all your activity. But you should be able to remove it by clicking on the X. Right now, you have to go to every page, track that comment down (sometimes in a sea of 1k+ comments), and manually delete it. Some of those comment feeds are so damn large, that they can crash some users' browsers or slow them to a crawl.

Log in problem with the official Twitter app.

Just wanted to find out if anyone is experiencing log in problems with the official twitter app on Windows Phone. I cant log in since 3:00 pm yesterday and it's driving me nuts. Have tried everything from reinstallation to time change etc but still not able to log in. Please help.
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I think it's a common error of the host network .

fewer people using that type of mindless nonsensical BS is beneficial to society as a whole, however, so you may consider halting your attempt to login

Thanks y'all. Thought hard reset will solve the problem but still not able to login after hard reset...regret I even did it coz I've lost important lab files....oh my!
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The Twitter app leaves a lot to be desired. I either use the built-in people hub or Seesmic when working with Twitter on my WP.

Svpernaut said:
The Twitter app leaves a lot to be desired. I either use the built-in people hub or Seesmic when working with Twitter on my WP.
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Agree!
That is why I would recommend Mehdoh [or our twitter client - TwiDeep]. Have heard good things about Carbon as well.

You should try out Rowi or Carbon. They are both excellent twitter client for Windows Phone.

The problem I'm facing is that, no twitter app seems to work now on my phone. They all give me twitter authorization error. Went to the site to make some changes but still. Now I think it's a general problem coz all my friends are experiencing the same thing. Contacted twitter but they are not aware of any situation. All apps that require twitter authorization are not working and I'm now frustrated. Can it be a geolocation services in my region.
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Kenzibit said:
The problem I'm facing is that, no twitter app seems to work now on my phone. They all give me twitter authorization error. Went to the site to make some changes but still. Now I think it's a general problem coz all my friends are experiencing the same thing. Contacted twitter but they are not aware of any situation. All apps that require twitter authorization are not working and I'm now frustrated. Can it be a geolocation services in my region.
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Kenzibit, had this anoying problem here and what i discover is that once u signed with your Live ID and then add Twitter account from settings, this account become linked to your ID and then this error starts cause you arew already signed in twitter and then the official app understand that and cant sign u account.
What i had to do is signed first with other ID that i had that i use only for business so no contacts no Twitter,Facebook nothing linked to this account than i download Twitter and worked since. Try this.

Ok thanks but this means, I have to hard reset again because WP does not allow signing out of you live ID, not even delete although you can delete all other accounts (gmail, yahoo, outlook etc). One I have signed in with this Live ID, I can't sign out untill hard reset....something I really don't wanna do beacuse I have a lot of unbacked up files, information and settings. I have to be ready before I do this. Any suggestions before I try this step?

Kenzibit said:
Ok thanks but this means, I have to hard reset again because WP does not allow signing out of you live ID, not even delete although you can delete all other accounts (gmail, yahoo, outlook etc). One I have signed in with this Live ID, I can't sign out untill hard reset....something I really don't wanna do beacuse I have a lot of unbacked up files, information and settings. I have to be ready before I do this. Any suggestions before I try this step?
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Kenzibit, yeah, this is really boring but believe me, tried a lot of things that couldnt resolve and only this solved. Unfortunatly. Already searched through Google and a lot of people has this problem that u cant remove a Live ID.

xpc21 said:
Kenzibit, yeah, this is really boring but believe me, tried a lot of things that couldnt resolve and only this solved. Unfortunatly. Already searched through Google and a lot of people has this problem that u cant remove a Live ID.
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Wow...I went to my windows live ID and removed all associated social networks and apps and hard reset again (for the 8th time and now fear phone might start acting funny). Installed twitter app first, loged in and hurray i'm in.
Now fear if it will stop working again after adding all the removed apps and social networks. This wasn't so before why is it happening to me now.
Anyways thanks for your suggestion becuase it really worked.
All the best in what you do.

[Q] Redeeming free apps

Hi I'm new to these forums and I must say I love them! There's so much useful information!
So I thought that when buying this tablet I would get a bunch of free stuff. (50 gigs of dropbox, free linkedin pro for 3 months, etc...) I can't find any information about this anymore, I'm I missing something? Does anyone have any clue how to do this? I have already registered my device with Samsung btw.
Thanks in advance,
- Olivier

You should receive an email detailing the offers, sent to the address from which you registered your Samsung account. BTW, some of the offers, like the NYT access, begin from the time you register the account, NOT from the time you first access the offer. So, the first time I tried to access the Times premium content, it told me something like my premium access trial had expired, and asked whether I'd like to continue with a full-price subscription?
HA! Not likely...

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You should receive an email detailing the offers, sent to the address from which you registered your Samsung account. BTW, some of the offers, like the NYT access, begin from the time you register the account, NOT from the time you first access the offer. So, the first time I tried to access the Times premium content, it told me something like my premium access trial had expired, and asked whether I'd like to continue with a full-price subscription?
HA! Not likely...
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Yes that's what I thought. I just double checked and I did receive an email after registering, but didn't see any links to get free stuff. In comparison I still had an email from when I registered my S3 with a link to get free stuff. I'm confused about what I else I can/should try... :s
- Olivier

cascius said:
Yes that's what I thought. I just double checked and I did receive an email after registering, but didn't see any links to get free stuff. In comparison I still had an email from when I registered my S3 with a link to get free stuff. I'm confused about what I else I can/should try... :s
- Olivier
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Have you registered your device via the Galaxy Perks page?
Log in to your Samsung Account via a web browser (you can use the above link). Click on your name in the upper right, and select "My Profile". Verify that your device shows up. Sometimes just logging in to your Samsung Account via a web browser seems to trigger it, so it doesn't hurt to try even if you know you already registered your device.
Have you added the Samsung Account to the Note 2014 yet? If not, launch Samsung Apps and sign in with your Samsung Account when prompted. You might need to press the menu button and then select "Sign In" if it doesn't automatically ask you.
If you have, remove the Samsung Account, launch Samsung Apps and sign in again.
If you've done all that, you SHOULD get the "<NAME>, your gift for registering..." email at the Gmail account you specified when you registered.

Help! I'm not receiving email alerts for all the threads on xda I'm subscribed to

Hello,
I'm experiencing a strange kind of technical problem with the xda forum: I'm not regularly receiving the email alerts for all the threads I'm subscribed to (I'm actually subscribed to 164 different threads). This happens since my registration to the forum in 2014.
I strangely receive only some notifications and quite rarely, and they are about only some of the threads I'm subscribed to, this despite the fact that most of these 164 threads subscriptions are set to "Daily" notifications on my settings.
Those notifications seems to be sent to me randomly (I'm suscribed to those threads in the same way that I'm subscribed to the other ones, and I never actively posted on most of those threads).
I've double checked the settings on my user panel, and my e-mail spam filter is totally ok.
Is there by chance a maximum number of email alerts from subscribed threads that an user can receive?
Do you guys have an idea about why this could happen?
Do you think that it would be possible to contact someone of the forum staff in order to ask for technical help?
Thank you in advance!
W.

I've made a change to your account. See if you get any notification emails now?

Thank you for your reply, the_scotsman. Unfortunately nothing changed and auctually I didn't even receice a notification for your answer to this post as well (I've just discovered it by visiting the post manually).
I did a quick search and it appears that other users did experience the same problemin the past/are experiencing it.
Do you have an idea about how we could try to fix this problem? It would be very helpful for me.
Thank you very much again,
W.

wokawoka said:
Thank you for your reply, the_scotsman. Unfortunately nothing changed and auctually I didn't even receice a notification for your answer to this post as well (I've just discovered it by visiting the post manually).
I did a quick search and it appears that other users did experience the same problemin the past/are experiencing it.
Do you have an idea about how we could try to fix this problem? It would be very helpful for me.
Thank you very much again,
W.
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Hmmm....that's strange.
I wonder if @MikeChannon has any ideas as to what the problem might be?
I can't see anything wrong with your user account settings. Let's see if he has any suggestions.

This time I just did regularly receive the email notifications about both your reply and the quote, but the system for example completely missed your first reply on the 24th of August, and, as an example, the same did happen with my followed threads that I'm subscribed to (with daily notifications): during the last week I did receive only 2 email notifications instead of 11. These 2 notifications are about threads that the system seems to always notify me about, while I never received any email notification about the other 9 threads that the system skipped this week.
That's indeed very strange. I'm sure that my e-mail box is totally fine, I'm actively participating to many other forums without problems. My spam folder looks also clean.
Any help would be really very appreciated. Thanks again!

the_scotsman said:
Hmmm....that's strange.
I wonder if @MikeChannon has any ideas as to what the problem might be?
I can't see anything wrong with your user account settings. Let's see if he has any suggestions.
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wokawoka said:
This time I just did regularly receive the email notifications about both your reply and the quote, but the system for example completely missed your first reply on the 24th of August, and, as an example, the same did happen with my followed threads that I'm subscribed to (with daily notifications): during the last week I did receive only 2 email notifications instead of 11. These 2 notifications are about threads that the system seems to always notify me about, while I never received any email notification about the other 9 threads that the system skipped this week.
That's indeed very strange. I'm sure that my e-mail box is totally fine, I'm actively participating to many other forums without problems. My spam folder looks also clean.
Any help would be really very appreciated. Thanks again!
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Our notifications are sent out via a gmail account and a few days ago we noticed google was rate limiting us. In theory that should only mean a delay but it seems emails don't actually get through at all in some cases. It MAY be related to this.
Please report back if this continues.
Mike

Thank you for your reply Mike.
The thing is that I'm experiencing this problem since the beginning, right after my registration to the forum back in 2014.
At the moment I'm subscribed with daily notification to 169 threads but I'm receiving the email notification for only a few of them (and it has always happened like that). When I connect to my user control panel I can clearly go throught my subscribed threads and spot many threads that have been recently updated without any notification on my email box (actually the main part of them).
I'm pretty sure that my email account is fine but I can't really imagine what could be the problem.
I'm open to any kind suggestion. Being able to fix this problem would really help me.
Thanks again.
W.

I'm sorry to come back writing and (bothering you guys) here, but it looks like that I really can't resolve this issue myself.
Recently I even switched the email account linked to my xda profile to another address hosted by another provider (Hotmail) but nothing has changed: I still don't receive the large part of the email alerts from the threads I'm following.
Since having switched to another e-mail address should have eliminated the possibility of blocks or filters on my (e-mail side) frankly I really don't know what to do now.
Being able to receive updates from the threads I'm following would be incredibly helpful and would surely help me to engage more with the community.
I know that, since this is a free forum (but I would even pay a subscription if it could help with this issue!), I can't demand a prompt resolution to this technical issue. But I'm wondering which could be the reason behind this problem:
could it be possible that my account is still in a kind of "limited" mode?
could it be possible that there's a limit to the number of e-mail alerts that a user can receive (even if, as from my case, this limit would be extremely low, and it also looks like I'm not receiving the alerts with consistency)?

Your account definitely isn't restricted in any way, it looks completely normal. I've triple checked, and checked again.
This might be something that the server admin @bitpushr can perhaps provide some input, as I'm out of ideas. We've checked everything we can from our side.

Thanks again for your assistence @the_scotsman, I trust you and I know that you have already tried everything you could; I'm really grateful for it.
I also know that it could seem a strange problem and I'm sorry for it; at this point I would eventually be even willing to move my account to any other email address for you guys to check.
I'm thinking about other alternative solutions. What if i open a new account, would it be eventually possible to copy all my thread subscriptions (176 subscribed threads) on it?
Thank you very much again

correct solution

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correct solution
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Hello, what do you mean with "correct solution"?
My idea was to open a new account and to "migrate" or copy my thread subscriptions to it, but actually no forum moderator or admin did reply to my message to let me know if that was possible....
At the moment unfortunately my issue is still unresolved

wokawoka said:
Hello, what do you mean with "correct solution"?
My idea was to open a new account and to "migrate" or copy my thread subscriptions to it, but actually no forum moderator or admin did reply to my message to let me know if that was possible....
At the moment unfortunately my issue is still unresolved
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Ignore that post, it's just spam.
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sd_shadow said:
Ignore that post, it's just spam.
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Alright, thanks.
Hopefully someone will come out with a solution.

Hello there, sorry if I hijack this thread but I got the same problem. In general, it's the opposite problem (spam), but in this case, I don't receive emails from my subscription, despite having "checked" all threads and chose "instant email notification" in me profile settings.
Sorry If I missed a setting.

It worked today. I've got one for a quote and one for an answer to a thread I subscribed.
I don't know if you changed something.

Well I spoke too soon. Again I did not receive an instant email in a thread I subscribed.

Nojevah said:
Well I spoke too soon. Again I did not receive an instant email in a thread I subscribed.
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I've never found the email notifications to be reliable, Tapatalk is much faster, and reliable.
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Too bad, I like email notifications. I think Tapatalk is for mobile users and I browse XDA only from my PC.

I absolutely despise Gerrit.

This might be quite ranty, but I just want to talk about a problem with the service LineageOS offers in order to actually contribute to the project.
Why am I doing it on XDA? Honestly I looked for a long time on the official website for a forum, and I couldn't find anything, so, here I am.
I wanted to fix a small inaccuracy I've seen in the wiki page of a device I just installed LineageOS to, so I read their wiki page on how to do exactly that. I made my change, and when I wanted to actually commit my changes, I saw the instructions said to create a Gerrit account.
'Sure thing', I thought as I happily went to the site, and I clicked on the 'Sign in' button. To my surprise, I reached a Google login page. I thought I pressed something wrong, so I went back, wanting to just create an account using an ordinary e-mail address, for multiple reasons, privacy and staying away from Google as much as possible being the largest one.
When I realised that this was the only option, I eventually caved in since I already took the time to make my change, and I figured I might as well just upload it. I logged in and, to my surprise, I saw I had a profile picture I set when I was around 13. Weirded out, I clicked on 'Change Picture', only to see I was getting redirected to none other than Gravatar. Ugh.
I went through the trouble of getting my Gravatar account back since I used an old e-mail address (actually just hijacking my old account to delete it and then creating a new one). Needless to say, it didn't work at all, and I still had my Minecraft profile picture from fifth grade on Gerrit.
Giving up temporarily, I scrolled more through the Gerrit account details, and I reached a section about e-mail addresses linked to the account. I added the e-mail address I actually wanted to use to the account, and, surprisingly, it allowed me to set that one as the main address, but even more surprisingly, it allowed me to remove the GMail address from the account. So, without thinking twice, I did that. Everything seemed well, even my profile picture updated to the normal one. I then continued to add more details to the account, like my username, and just as I was about to generate myself a new SSH keypair to get started and finally end this, for some reason, the page refreshed and it kicked me out of the account. Then, I tried logging in, shortly after realising my edits were on an inaccessible account due to the need to log in only through Google and the fact that I removed the GMail address. So, now, I technically have two broken accounts: one that can't update its profile picture and with a bad username (the one on the Google account), and one inaccessible one due to how signing in is handled that's hogging onto the username I want to use (the one with the e-mail I wanted to use).
So, in conclusion, LineageOS Gerrit, for some reason, forces Google account log in and also forces the use of Gravatar. Really now? I understand offering Google account log in as an option, but not as the sole way of creating an account. I couldn't care less about the profile pic if I didn't have an old one I couldn't replace.
Why don't you make it easy for people to contribute and just offer classic, normal, e-mail sign in, like any other service?

This is the 21st century.
The point is to make the trivial as tedious as possible!
There are times that I have some change to offer but I don't feel like git-ing the whole project.
So I don't.
There have been times that I have found an error in closed source, told the OEM which file, which line, which character.
Nope. Nobody interested.

Feels wierd, when LineageOS is supposed be “private” and about “privacy”. While I personally do not care how to log in, it feels like this is kind of against what they are trying to get.

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Why don't you make it easy for people to contribute and just offer classic, normal, e-mail sign in, like any other service?
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+1 I was equally annoyed about it, many times:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/contributing_wiki
Your story is pure horror This is just despicable and entirely disregards the wiki concept.

Renate said:
There are times that I have some change to offer but I don't feel like git-ing the whole project.
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Nah, I don't even mind having to `git clone` the entire wiki. As long as you provide me a method to contribute with instructions, I'll follow it happily.
But, I understand your point. Maybe it'd be better to have an approach similar to the Arch Wiki, for example. Just an account creation on the wiki website, a discussion page where you can actually discuss a change before making it (I don't know why, but making a pull request for something seems way too final for me, sometimes I'd like discussing a change before making it instead of having that discussion in a Git pull request or issue) and a simple `Edit` button.

Arealhooman said:
Feels wierd, when LineageOS is supposed be “private” and about “privacy”. While I personally do not care how to log in, it feels like this is kind of against what they are trying to get.
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Yeah, it seemed weird to me too when LOS looks like it at least tries to be privacy-centric, but then only offers Google log in to contributors