Hi..hoping someone can help me out.
BACKGROUND
Got an unlocked, unbranded, basically unaltered-from-the-factory HTC Desire A8181.
Been eagerly awaiting the Froyo update which I happily noted (on the phone itself) was available yesterday in OTA
Unhappily, I was unable to complete the update with it stopping around the 50% mark when I ran into a data download limit.
ISSUE
I have now tried reconnecting to get the update (Settings > About Phone > System software updates) and the phone is thinking it is up to date! (Your phone is up to date. There are no updates available for your phone)
Clearly, it isn't up to date (Settings > About Phone > Software Information: Firmware version=2.1-update1)
QUESTION
Is there a "registry" or something somewhere that I need to hack to tell it that it isn't up to date?
Thanks in anticipation - really want to get the update!!
(yes..I've tried restarting the phone..no luck though it did come up with a notification that other programs had updates but not the Android OS itself!)
DesireOwner10 said:
Hi..hoping someone can help me out.
BACKGROUND
Got an unlocked, unbranded, basically unaltered-from-the-factory HTC Desire A8181.
Been eagerly awaiting the Froyo update which I happily noted (on the phone itself) was available yesterday in OTA
Unhappily, I was unable to complete the update with it stopping around the 50% mark when I ran into a data download limit.
ISSUE
I have now tried reconnecting to get the update (Settings > About Phone > System software updates) and the phone is thinking it is up to date! (Your phone is up to date. There are no updates available for your phone)
Clearly, it isn't up to date (Settings > About Phone > Software Information: Firmware version=2.1-update1)
QUESTION
Is there a "registry" or something somewhere that I need to hack to tell it that it isn't up to date?
Thanks in anticipation - really want to get the update!!
(yes..I've tried restarting the phone..no luck though it did come up with a notification that other programs had updates but not the Android OS itself!)
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Sounds like you using an Asian ROM, they haven't been released yet. I had the same, so I Made a gold card, changed to a WWE rom and then updated OTA.
Let me know if you need instructions.
Thanks for the reply wickedpenguin (ah..gotta to love forum names).
So that it is clear:
This A8181 is from the UK
It did indicate there was an OTA update available which as I said I was half way through prior to data disconnection - the A8181 only thought it was up to date after this update interruption.
So since it is from the UK and I did get an indication an update was available..do I have an Asian ROM? (please forgive me if I'm wrong..new at this).
If I do have an Asian ROM..did what you write before mean changing it to another type? (obviously from that it means I will need instructions if this is something I need to do)
Thanks!
I have the same problem.
I canceled the update due to i wanted to run it from a WiFi connection and now i cannot update anymore.
I receive that the phone is up to date, but it is not
Can someone help us!!!
wolfcry said:
I have the same problem.
I canceled the update due to i wanted to run it from a WiFi connection and now i cannot update anymore.
I receive that the phone is up to date, but it is not
Can someone help us!!!
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Exactly the same thing here. I tried a factory wipe also tried wiping the cache and booting without SDCard, nothing seems to work.
I can't post links yet but had similar experiences and have documented my experience in the "Desire General" section. The key for me was to update using a Gold Card.
I had the same problem this morning, but now it's available again.
Arrgh! Foiled again!!
Ok..I second the above. I managed to get the Desire to recognise it wasn't up to date today. After waiting a LONG time for the 90Mb update I then run into another problem...
DESIRE NEEDS 25Mb phone memory to do the update!
I cleared the space but then ended up with the same problem where the phone thinks it is up to date (when it isn't).
So..take home message people - make sure your phone has at least 25Mb memory free! (bring on the App2SD)
Android OS developers - please take note that the phone should check for this prior to downloading a 90Mb system update!! Alternatively..make it obvious to the user how to run an update that has already been downloaded (I can't even see where it is on my SD card).
Now I'm back to square one. Is the day in which you tried to do a failed update a factor in the phone recognising if it is up to date or not? If so..I suppose I just have to try this again tomorrow? Grr..
@ DesireOwner10 i noticed you did a factory wipe, but did you mean factory settings restore or hard drive format (via the volume down + on/off button menu) ?
I too am having this problem recieved the notification earlier, but no longer available. My phone is or has never been rooted. Please help!!!
any solution
hi guys,
same problem for me here - it did indicate the update, but I had no time to install, so just canceled that.
Now, when I have time, there is no update available ;-) what the hell is going on ??
I don't want to use gold card if not really necessary.
Jan
Gaborel said:
@ DesireOwner10 i noticed you did a factory wipe, but did you mean factory settings restore or hard drive format (via the volume down + on/off button menu) ?
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Thanks for response.
I bought this phone from someone else. I myself didn't do a factory wipe on it but given what you're saying, is that what Firmware version=2.1-update1 means?
It has been 2 days since my 2nd unsuccessful up date - the phone still thinks it is up to date.
I got in touch with HTC. Their suggestion was to wind the phone forward 2 years - not sure if this would work but would if I could: The phone is managing to hang onto the current date despite me manually setting it (yes, I have unchecked the "Use network-provided values" option and have even gone as far as taking out the SIM card to stop it from getting onto the cell network).
Anyone have any ideas on how to get my phone to get with the program or at least force it to go forward 2 years to see if that will work?
Thanks.
DesireOwner10 said:
It has been 2 days since my 2nd unsuccessful up date - the phone still thinks it is up to date.
I got in touch with HTC. Their suggestion was to wind the phone forward 2 years - not sure if this would work but would if I could: The phone is managing to hang onto the current date despite me manually setting it (yes, I have unchecked the "Use network-provided values" option and have even gone as far as taking out the SIM card to stop it from getting onto the cell network).
Anyone have any ideas on how to get my phone to get with the program or at least force it to go forward 2 years to see if that will work?
Thanks.
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Exactly the same problem here. I've got the same firmware version as you. I bought the phone brand new from Amazon UK.
I read elsewhere about the date trick. I'm having the same issue updating the date, it instantly changes back. This doesn't happen when the phone is disconnected from the internet so I presume the date is being updated from an NTP server or something. Of course, the phone has to be connected to do the update so I'm looking for a way of switching this auto-date feature off, or blocking it at the router. Blocking the NTP port doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Does this date trick even work anyway?!
beavis82 said:
Exactly the same problem here. I've got the same firmware version as you. I bought the phone brand new from Amazon UK.
I read elsewhere about the date trick. I'm having the same issue updating the date, it instantly changes back. This doesn't happen when the phone is disconnected from the internet so I presume the date is being updated from an NTP server or something. Of course, the phone has to be connected to do the update so I'm looking for a way of switching this auto-date feature off, or blocking it at the router. Blocking the NTP port doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Does this date trick even work anyway?!
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I've tried the same thing, but I've also tried to disable WiFi, change date on mobile internet and then try to update. The date has changed, but still i get a message that everything is up to date.
snakemaycry said:
I've tried the same thing, but I've also tried to disable WiFi, change date on mobile internet and then try to update. The date has changed, but still i get a message that everything is up to date.
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Wow, quick reply! Really enjoying this forum...
So are you saying that setting the date forward, say 2 years, doesn't trick the phone into updating?
Might be getting somewhere with this...
I've blocked all network traffic to my HTC Desire at my wifi's firewall, and checked via the phone's browser to make sure that the phone can't get online. Then I tried to check for updates again, and the phone came back with the same message 'Your phone is up to date'. It couldn't possibly have checked, as it can't communicate with the update server.
The router reports that the phone is trying to access 63.241.57.68 when checking for updates. Using my laptop, I've found that I can't access this IP address. Traceroute doesn't work, and centralops.net can't reach it. So I wonder if the reason that our phones won't update is either because they're either attempting to connect to the wrong IP address, or the update server is down (or overloaded)?
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dakarcz said:
hi guys,
same problem for me here - it did indicate the update, but I had no time to install, so just canceled that.
Now, when I have time, there is no update available ;-) what the hell is going on ??
I don't want to use gold card if not really necessary.
Jan
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I have a same problem. I have unbranded Desire (never locked, never rooted, bought in EU) and I get a message that my phone is up to date. My friends who bought Desire at a same carrier as I did already got Froyo on their phones. I can move the date forward (2011 or 2012), but as soon as I enable Wlan connection, date goes back to 2010. I don't want to use gold card because Froyo should be already available OTA.
The more I look into this, the more I think that it's just a case of the update servers being hammered.
Apparently the traceroute I tried earlier wouldn't have worked anyway, as the connection is routed through attens.net who block traceroutes, pings etc. for security reasons.
Just keep trying, I'm sure eventually we'll get through!
Thanks for the contributions all
beavis82 said:
Might be getting somewhere with this...
I've blocked all network traffic to my HTC Desire at my wifi's firewall, and checked via the phone's browser to make sure that the phone can't get online. Then I tried to check for updates again, and the phone came back with the same message 'Your phone is up to date'. It couldn't possibly have checked, as it can't communicate with the update server.
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So according to the above it would seem the problem is more fundamental to the phone itself thinking it is up to date..perhaps it records the last date of its latest "update" and checks that against the current date? If that's the case, the moving the date forward thing might work but there doesn't seem to be a way of doing this.
Besides..it was only 1 day between my 1st & 2nd failed update attempts so unless this changes, one should only need to wait a day between attempts?
Anyone with any further thoughts? Thanks.
Another possibility is that the phone just says it's up to date unless it receives a message from the update server saying otherwise? So that no reply would still result in that same message.
If I knew how to inspect the actual data being transmitted and received by the phone, I could investigate further. Any ideas?
i do not believe that this is possible i have tried it over 100 times now and i get the same results every single time
so has anyone recently bought a new fire tv stick and been able to block the new update during initial setup using this guide ?
i do not believe this guide works anymore
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-complete-the-fire-tv-initial-setup-without-updating/#comment-251719
because i have been through it over 100 times now, and can never get past step 12
i can never get to the registration screen no matter what i do
so can somebody even confirm that this guide still works? can you please also check your SN and manufactured date and post it if you have either had success or have failed at this same step
i need to know whether to return these devices and i only have a few days left thanks
oops just realized i posted in the wrong section
in my defense there were other question threads i have been posting in in this same section
and i am new here
anyway this can be a survey and reporting thread
report the manufactured date of your new fire stick
and if you have been able to successfully block the initial update during setup or not
post your method of how you got it to work if you have had success
post the point where it failed if you have not had success
i have not seen any reports of anyone ever having gotten this to work yet and i am very skeptical that it is even still possible to complete the setup process and avoid updates on recently manufactured devices
not sure if it works but you could try disconnecting the internet from router leave the wifi switch on allow the stick to connect to wifi then i assume it will not update, please report back if it work last guy didnt
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not sure if it works but you could try disconnecting the internet from router leave the wifi switch on allow the stick to connect to wifi then i assume it will not update, please report back if it work last guy didnt
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i dont know what you are talking about when you say "wifi switch" , what is that?
i do leave the wifi on , i do disconnect the internet from my router, this is what i have been doing , i did it about 100 times now , when it says connection successful then i pull the ethernet cable out from the back of the router the one going to the modem before it says checking for updates , and then it will just hang at the checking for updates screen for about an hour and then go back to the error message screen, then i hit back ,chose my network again reconnect the wifi router to my modem ,enter my network password, go to advanced enter my settings for open DNS ,hit connect again ,pull the cable out from the back of the router when it says connection successful ,then it goes to checking for updates, hangs for an hour then goes to the error screen, infinity ,there is no way to get to the registration screen following the only guide i can find on how to do this, it never works
FTVS w/Voice Remote
Purchased 2 months ago at Best Buy
I rooted my stick with KingRoot and followed the steps for blocking OTA for root ftv and has been working for me, wasn't even aware a update came out till I just checked here so working without issue.
This is the guide I used:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-software-updates-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
My wife and I both have SM-A520W phones. I OTA upgraded mine while travelling in Europe (risky, I know) and didn't have any issues with it. I waited til we returned to upgrade hers, and since upgrading, she has been unable to maintain a WiFi connection beyond a number of minutes, e.g. 5-30 minutes.
I downgraded her phone to Nougat (A520WVLS2BRD2 / A520WOYA2BRD2) using Odin, and things returned to normal. When the July 1st patch (A520WVLU2CRF2 / A520WOYA2CRF2) for Oreo was released I tried upgrading it again over the air, and the WiFi issues returned. Unfortunately after upgrading to this version, I can no longer use Odin to downgrade to Nougat, as it results in a "kernel rev check fail device 1 binary 0" even if I don't load the bootrom. I tried doing a fresh load with Odin of the latest Oreo release as well, but the issue persists.
Any suggestions on either how to downgrade to Nougat, or resolve the WiFi issues on her phone? It seems surprising to me that one phone works fine, and the other one fails repeatedly on the same network and carrier (Freedom). Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Hi. I have the same problem. Were you able to resolve the issue?
Unfortunately not in any way that will be helpful. Took the device to an authorized Samsung repair place, they ran diagnostics, and then offered to swap the main board. They did that, and everything has been fine since.
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Unfortunately not in any way that will be helpful. Took the device to an authorized Samsung repair place, they ran diagnostics, and then offered to swap the main board. They did that, and everything has been fine since.
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Could have been a software bug. Personally, I would have got a new phone rather than getting a new motherboard.