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Nougat update for Motorola Droid Turbo 2 receives Bluetooth SIG certification

Looks like some good news may really be coming (Nougat)...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nougat_upda...es_bluetooth_sig_certification-news-22523.php
Looks like the Motorola Droid Turbo 2 will soon get Nougat as the Android 7.0 update for the handset (model number XT1585) has been certified by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG).

Now we will finally get root! Hehe

my2cents said:
Now we will finally get root! Hehe
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wh

I've come to terms with the likelihood that this phone will never see root. And if it does, there will be little to no development for custom roms or other goodies. I am to the point where I think the glory days of rooting and having cool software hacks that actually improve the phones are behind us. Now my opinion could be, because my last three phones have been locked down on Verizon, and my Razr M once unlocked never had great builds. The builds it did have had issues due to bootloader changes and my lack of willingness to downgrade the bootloader once other changes were made. As I recall. Still excited to see Nougat coming at least.

romma1 said:
I've come to terms with the likelihood that this phone will never see root. And if it does, there will be little to no development for custom roms or other goodies. I am to the point where I think the glory days of rooting and having cool software hacks that actually improve the phones are behind us. Now my opinion could be, because my last three phones have been locked down on Verizon, and my Razr M once unlocked never had great builds. The builds it did have had issues due to bootloader changes and my lack of willingness to downgrade the bootloader once other changes were made. As I recall. Still excited to see Nougat coming at least.
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Well since Verizon just got rid of 2 year contracts for everyone so no subsidized phones I won't buy another carrier phone. My wife has the pixel xl and loves it. I will be going Google not so much for the unlocked bootloader more for immediate updates. Screw carrier and manufacturer taking forever to update or decide not to update (Droid Maxx 5.1 I'm looking at you).

bigv5150 said:
Well since Verizon just got rid of 2 year contracts for everyone so no subsidized phones I won't buy another carrier phone. My wife has the pixel xl and loves it. I will be going Google not so much for the unlocked bootloader more for immediate updates. Screw carrier and manufacturer taking forever to update or decide not to update (Droid Maxx 5.1 I'm looking at you).
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Yup. Every single phone I have had has been in the Droid Line (HTC Included). No more!! Not after this phone runs dry.

Is this Bogus?
This has to be bogus, right? Why don't I see this thread on XDA?
http://www.android-nougat.tech/2016/11/motorola-droid-turbo-2-7713.html

my2cents said:
This has to be bogus, right? Why don't I see this thread on XDA?
http://www.android-nougat.tech/2016/11/motorola-droid-turbo-2-7713.html
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yeah that's a fake website, you can easily tell because none of the other links works (Home, contact us, etc..)

https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/826802898512314368

xQrzy said:
https://twitter.com/Moto_GER/status/826802898512314368
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For F*** sake.
Delayed until May?
Seriously?
Since Lenovo bought moto it's just going downhill.
Top range phone for £500 and need to wait 6 months for update. This is a joke.

TeddyBeers said:
For F*** sake.
Delayed until May?
Seriously?
Since Lenovo bought moto it's just going downhill.
Top range phone for £500 and need to wait 6 months for update. This is a joke.
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Do You think we will get 7.1.1? LOL, so it is 9 months. This is my first and last Moto.

Xetmes said:
Do You think we will get 7.1.1? LOL, so it is 9 months. This is my first and last Moto.
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Yeah.
Q4 2018

romma1 said:
Looks like some good news may really be coming (Nougat)...
http://www.gsmarena.com/nougat_upda...es_bluetooth_sig_certification-news-22523.php
Looks like the Motorola Droid Turbo 2 will soon get Nougat as the Android 7.0 update for the handset (model number XT1585) has been certified by the Bluetooth Special Interest Group (SIG).
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How does the Bluetooth SIG certification affect my phone?
I use Bluetooth with my truck and some earbuds...... I don't see where I would see extra functionality.

Does not affect your phone. It's just a way how info about update leaks. Every phone/update needs to pass certification before is released.
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New to moto z play

Hey everyone
I had purchased moto z pay about two weeks ago ,great experience but i have some questions about some issues with the handset just to make sure it's normal or what :
1- when making a phone call i hear some strong hissing(buzzing as some says)in total it's another sound besides the voice of the other guys on phone , not a very quit voice as i used to in any mobile , is that normal ? is it soothing related with my phone carrier service or 4G or 3G stuff?
2- when applying style shell- which are very awesome - i can found out that it could be moved a little if swipe it in left or right around camera lens something like little shaky or moving, not just stick to the handset and ever never moved unless you remove it , is that normal K i was told it is at seller but you guys have it so is it normal ?
last thing is just a question and not an issue
Motorola is giving full support and update to the mobile even if it was like 4 or 5 years later , in other word how long i will be get the latest android updates for life time of the handset or maybe 3 years and will get bored and it is out ?
that's everything i want to know till now , if i had any issues i will post it here
so thank you guys so much for your help and patience
many regards

Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.

1. I think it's your carrier problem. which carrier are you using?
2. If it's never removed unless you remove it, it's ok.
3. Not 3 years! It's a very long time period.
Device is currently running 7.0 and company representative confirmed that it will get 7.1.1 soon And according to sources It'll definetly receive Android 8 in 2017 only.
Cheers!

Are you sure that's android 7.1.1? Maybe it's 7.1.2

allrightlite said:
Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.
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that's satisfied, thank you so much

Yash24 said:
1. I think it's your carrier problem. which carrier are you using?
2. If it's never removed unless you remove it, it's ok.
3. Not 3 years! It's a very long time period.
Device is currently running 7.0 and company representative confirmed that it will get 7.1.1 soon And according to sources It'll definetly receive Android 8 in 2017 only.
Cheers!
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that's what i want to hear in points 2 and 3 so thank you so much
but for point 1 , I tried to remove sim and made a call on messenger and i get same issue so i think it's not a something related with my carrier but with in call stereo
so what is that? i tried to reset and disabling all sound boosts but nothing changed

mohmyo said:
that's satisfied, thank you so much
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But I don't know. Nothing is sure. But you can later use custom roms very good on this phone, if there are really no updates anymore. But I don't know the update plans, just that we can expect all update to android O and all other we must be wait and see. But I think so because it's not a cheap phone. And because the Moto G4(much cheaper and older phone) get android O, too. So, Moto Z modells should, too. And security patches at least for 3 years. All other would not be nice from motorola.

allrightlite said:
Updates? Maybe 3 or 4 years. It's Z modell, so I think we should get updates very long. But I don't know.
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Z is a Flagship series and every company tries to provide updates faster in their Flagship devices.
Also, Acc to sources Z Series will be the first to get Android O.

March Security Patch

INTRODUCTION
Motorola is excited to announce a new software update for moto g5 plus by Motorola. This update brings important security improvements to your phone.
For more information on Motorola updates and repairs, visit us at www.motorola.com/mymotog.
NOTE: All information on your phone will be saved. You cannot downgrade to a previous software version after installing this update.
ENHANCEMENTS
This update introduces changes including the following:
Android security: Includes the updates of Android security patches through March 1st, 2018.
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Source: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
I have yet to receive it here on retbr. Will keep updated if I see anything show up.

I'm guessing somewhere after the second week of April

psychopac said:
I'm guessing somewhere after the second week of April
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Considering how Lenovorola was sending out a Feb patch in the same month to the G5S+, I'm betting on this coming out mid to end of March and rolling out in about twelve days to all regions (based on the Jan update rollout)

Rocketfin said:
Considering how Lenovorola was sending out a Feb patch in the same month to the G5S+, I'm betting on this coming out mid to end of March and rolling out in about twelve days to all regions (based on the Jan update rollout)
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Nice. But it would be much nicer if they would roll out Oreo. I was hoping they would do that in combination with the march security patch. But it seems we'll have to wait some more time.
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Wolfcity said:
Nice. But it would be much nicer if they would roll out Oreo. I was hoping they would do that in combination with the march security patch. But it seems we'll have to wait some more time.
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Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo. We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable enough for daily use at this point. The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock rom. That's exactly what I'm doing, btw, and I have yet to see anything 8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me.

agentfusion said:
Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo. We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable enough for daily use at this point. The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock rom. That's exactly what I'm doing, btw, and I have yet to see anything 8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me.
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I am of your opinion that there is no big "wow" about Oreo. But it's an update Lenovo/Motorola promised to their users and under these circumstances something one has paid for.
About custom roms: I'm a big fan of custom roms and use them on my other devices. But as there is no Oreo source for the Moto G5+ imo there are still several problems with AOSP or Lineage based roms like users losing volte, IMEI or even mobile data when returning to stock after being on 8.1 custom roms and also the roms I've tested lack of stability and features beside the mentioned camera issues.No daily driver material for me.
That would not happen if the kernel sources of stock Oreo for potter would be available and as we all know this will only happen when our devices will be upgraded. The Moto G5+ stock rom is really good in terms of battery and performance and I'm very satisfied with the rooted 7.0 stock but I won't unroot and flash stock everytime just to get a security patch. Don't get me wrong, security patches are good and important but for me it's not worth the effort against the background that a major update is about to come in foreseeable time.
And that's the point why I'm waiting for Oreo for the Moto G5+. For stable custom roms and a good reason to unroot and reflash my device.
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agentfusion said:
Honestly, I don't see what the big fuss is about Oreo..
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A promise they made.
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We have it already by way of custom ROMs, and it's stable "enough" for daily use at this point.
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Stable enough although not ideal. There are always a couple hacks and other shenanigans that may not deliver the complete experience. Either missing blobs or proprietary functions that some people need it.
Warranty. I did unlock my bootloader within 3 months. My G5 Plus started to act stupid, the power and volume buttons would get stuck and not press down anymore. This is not my fault. I'm no *insert stereotype here* to handle my phone as if it is some piece of brick.
Result: I bought another one, extra 800BRL.
Also, not everyone has the knowledge to flash ROMs, as easy as it may be. Some people **** up the most simple stuff, such as downloading the right zip for the right device.
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The only issue I've seen is that certain camera functions don't work properly without the proprietary firmware, so if you want to adjust ISO or shutter speed you have to use a stock ROM.
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There you go. Another reason which I mentioned earlier.
agentfusion said:
I have yet to see anything 8.0/8.1 has that makes it functionally Superior to 7.0 and aside from security patches, I'm unlikely to change anything about my rom because Oreo just doesn't "wow" me
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Well there is PIP (Picture-in-Picture) there may be a lot of people that would actually love to have this feature.
There is a new interface, some people like looking at something different. Blame them
I think they improved the File Manager.
More precise notification settings. (Notification Channels)
Unknown Source APK settings revamped. (Now you don't need to go back to that APK file because the system won't dismiss everything.) [And you can choose only your file manager in case your browser gets attacked and the attacker finds a way to install APKs from it, security+)
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Oreo just doesn't "wow" me
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It should "wow" the fact that Motorola promised something as a company and did not deliver.
Would you trust them again? Do you believe they are caring enough about you as customer, or do you think they see you more as money than other OEMs?
I'm out won't due that stuck button problem I had and the delayed updates.
Pls this is not a personal attack

BlackScout said:
it should "wow" the fact that Motorola promised something as a company and did not deliver.
Would you trust them again? Do you believe they are caring enough about you as customer, or do you think they see you more as money than other OEMs?
I'm out won't due that stuck button problem I had and the delayed updates.
Pls this is not a personal attack
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Companies lie. It's a universal constant. LG lied when they said all LG G4 devices after a certain serial number were free of the bootloop solder defect. Lie. They said it wouldn't happen in future devices. Lie. HTC lied about certain phones getting Gorilla Glass... They all lie. Motorola/Lenovo didn't give an exact date, they just said it would happen for a specific list of devices. They've reiterated the list, and then started a rollout in AUS/NZ for the X4 which is on that list, so now they can say they kept their promise because they started the rollout on one of the listed devices. They're going to say the delays are because they can't, logistically, rollout to all of them simultaneously. They've still come closer to keeping the promise than any other OEM, but they're all liars about something.
And I never take anything as a personal attack unless someone says something personal about *me* in an insulting way, so we're good. You're just sharing your opinion, same as I did. There's no harm in that.

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. They've reiterated the list, and then started a rollout in AUS/NZ for the X4 which is on that list, so now they can say they kept their promise because they started the rollout on one of the listed devices. They're going to say the delays are because they can't, logistically, rollout to all of them simultaneously. They've still come closer to keeping the promise than any other OEM, but they're all liars about something.
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To be fair they have already rolled out Oreo to the X4 and X4 Android One Edition as well as the z² force while currently having soak tests for the z² play, z play and z

Screen?

smn.silv said:
Screen?
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I don't even...
There is no screen. It's unreleased. You don't need proof, it's Lenovo/Motorola Support website.

Any idea what Will it include apart from security patch.
Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk

Rocketfin said:
To be fair they have already rolled out Oreo to the X4 and X4 Android One Edition as well as the z² force while currently having soak tests for the z² play, z play and z
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Nice! I didn't know they had gotten further than the X4. IMO, that's really good news for anyone with a device on the list of devices they've promised will get Oreo.

BlackScout said:
Source: https://mobilesupport.lenovo.com/us/en/Solution/MS126800
I have yet to receive it here on retbr. Will keep updated if I see anything show up.
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Still waiting for it on Moto G5 plus reteu no brand.
Thank you for sharing.
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There is a way to manually download security patch from motorola website?

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device? I was also waiting for Oreo but after updating on one of my devices I found the new UI awkward specially the status bar and quick tyles (they all are either white or pure black). Also I am not going to unlock this as official LaOS is not available.
Anyone has any idea if official builds will ever be possible for Potter or not?
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I love the white UI from oreo.
Don't worry, you can stop updates on the device.. but you won't receive security patches in nougat after oreo.

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device?
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An official Oreo release helps with custom Oreo ROM stabliity.
Unofficial LineageOS 14.1 is stable enough for daily use. I've been running it the past week weeks without GAPPs just fine.

devvshukla said:
Am I the only one who don't want Moto to release orio for this device? I was also waiting for Oreo but after updating on one of my devices I found the new UI awkward specially the status bar and quick tyles (they all are either white or pure black). Also I am not going to unlock this as official LaOS is not available.
Anyone has any idea if official builds will ever be possible for Potter or not?
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You are OT. We are talking about March security update not about how pretty is the oreo UI.
Afte rall you can choose to not update to oreo, use a lineage of Nougat. Many choices for android users, you have nothing to worry about.

I've only got the January security patch on my G5 Plus last Wednesday. You guys are already getting the March patch?

Mrkblo said:
I've only got the January security patch on my G5 Plus last Wednesday. You guys are already getting the March patch?
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Depends on where you live, if your have a retail or a carrier locked phone. These OTA's always roll out in stages. There are users recieving the Nov security patch these days.
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Got it on retus.

Updates

Since it is an Android One phone (with the promise of timely updates and security patches), I am curious that I'm still on an October update and not November's, which is now almost over. Anyone else?

Same here, hopefully delayed this once because of Pie update, but first Nokia so not sure about their track record

I am pondering to get this new device, but I see there is no XDA support yet for mods or roms
How do you feel about it?

I got the phone from work, but as a flashaholic I wouldn't go Nokia, search a bit Bootloader unlock I think only one of their device has it. If custom ROM and root is your thing check another brand

phaleg said:
I am pondering to get this new device, but I see there is no XDA support yet for mods or roms
How do you feel about it?
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Yeah.. I wouldn't expect any action here for custom ROMs. I've been a frequent flasher in the past, but as I looked for a new device, I found myself asking why. Frankly, security updates are more important to me at this point, and there really isn't anything I do that requires root.
This is also my only device, so I use it for work all the time, and custom ROMS always seem to have lingering issues with the basics.

I used to flash ROM on my Nexus devices, now on Nexus 5x I am on stock.
For my future device, if there is also XDA support is better, but it not a so important condition.
Maybe slightly offtopic, but how do you feel with this device at all?
Do you like the way it is stock?
I am mostly interested to battery duration, network and if photos are great

I would imagine that given Thanksgiving it's delayed until the end of the month.

fatesealer said:
I would imagine that given Thanksgiving it's delayed until the end of the month.
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I don't really see why thanksgiving would affect the Devs/release, most of their R&D is in China, some in Finland, where it's not a big thing

For those of you using the stock ROM, what are your plans for migrating once we reach EOL?

As I'm sure we all know here, our beloved Pixel 3 XLs are officially getting dropped by Google in about three weeks. If history repeats itself, though, we will get the Android 12 release in October followed by one last OTA in December. My typical usage pattern with a phone is:
Get the phone and use the stock ROM until the phone reaches EOL.
Once EOL is reached, move to LineageOS.
I know that this is a pattern that some others more or less follow as well, but I was wondering about what variations there are to the pattern. Does anyone here use another ROM? As much as I like LineageOS, I would be more interested in using a ROM that is basically identical to stock Android. I have read about compiling AOSP from source so as to maintain my own ROM that does just that, but from what I understand, that does not work very well for unsupported devices. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Off the top of the head... EOL only means no more official updates or support, ie security fix's...
Your fone working on a custom rom will still work, since you'd think it was the custom rom updated...
If they do stop the fone calling, there's plenty other apks for 'near field' communication
Free wifi calling hint hint..

Pachacouti said:
Off the top of the head... EOL only means no more official updates or support, ie security fix's...
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Oh yes, I know that functionality-wise the phone will continue working as before. What I want to know is, what are people considering in regards to custom ROMs?

David B. said:
Oh yes, I know that functionality-wise the phone will continue working as before. What I want to know is, what are people considering in regards to custom ROMs?
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Kl, well, me, I'm wondering this too just now, because I'm stuck with a system-as-root fone thats a pain, and now there's too many different too choose from, and if they're of the best quality, they now have to cover at least 4 different styles of booting alone, I'd watch those for the ones updating quickest

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Kl, well, me, I'm wondering this too just now, because I'm stuck with a system-as-root fone thats a pain, and now there's too many different too choose from, and if they're of the best quality, they now have to cover at least 4 different styles of booting alone, I'd watch those for the ones updating quickest
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Well, LineageOS certainly does that, but at the same time, it also takes them about 6 months to move to a new major release of Android. I was hoping that someone would know of a release that does it just as well, but is a little more flexible with migrating. I haven't found any myself.

I've yet to convince myself which version is for my fone lol

David B. said:
As I'm sure we all know here, our beloved Pixel 3 XLs are officially getting dropped by Google in about three weeks. If history repeats itself, though, we will get the Android 12 release in October followed by one last OTA in December. My typical usage pattern with a phone is:
Get the phone and use the stock ROM until the phone reaches EOL.
Once EOL is reached, move to LineageOS.
I know that this is a pattern that some others more or less follow as well, but I was wondering about what variations there are to the pattern. Does anyone here use another ROM? As much as I like LineageOS, I would be more interested in using a ROM that is basically identical to stock Android. I have read about compiling AOSP from source so as to maintain my own ROM that does just that, but from what I understand, that does not work very well for unsupported devices. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.

Not at all, they all sound excellent, however, my fone cant write to the actuall system, can mount, but no joy yet doing anything else, and no overlay works so far, the only custom os I could install was a chrooted nethunter, which was pretty lame and useless being my system as root is a pain... so I'm looking..

dcarvil said:
I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.
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My plan, at least for now, is to ride on stock until the last update is pushed, and then once LOS gets updated to 12, I will migrate. The only problem with this, though, is that it would leave me without security updates from the end of December until either March or April, and I am not sure how I feel about that.

My experience might help...Last year I was using a Motorola 5Plus with Pixel Experience Rom and loved it. My phone was fast, stable and highly compatible to the "Pixel Experience". I had a hardware issue and decided I liked the PE so much, I went ahead and got a Pixel 3xl...I've never had such a seamless transition...was just faster with better hardware but almost no thought changing for different mechanisms of actions...
I'm hoping someone picks up PE and ports it to the 3XL and I'll use that....otherwise, any alternative suggestions for closest to "stock" Pixel would be appreciated...
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I liked the PE so much, I went ahead and got a Pixel 3xl...I've never had such a seamless transition...was just faster with better hardware but almost no thought changing for different mechanisms of actions...
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Yeah I have seen PixelExperience and would really like to use it over LOS if the 3 XL gets support. As far as I know, the 2 XL did not receive support until it's EOL, so there's hope. Is the feature parity as spot-on as is claimed?

David B. said:
Yeah I have seen PixelExperience and would really like to use it over LOS if the 3 XL gets support. As far as I know, the 2 XL did not receive support until it's EOL, so there's hope. Is the feature parity as spot-on as is claimed?
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For the features and functions I use, it was almost totally seamless...it was less than a typical release level amount of change (e.g.: 10->11 was more than I experienced PE -> P-3xl)
YMMV however...based on what features/functions you use most heavily.
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For the features and functions I use, it was almost totally seamless...it was less than a typical release level amount of change (e.g.: 10->11 was more than I experienced PE -> P-3xl)
YMMV however...based on what features/functions you use most heavily.
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Great! I guess it's time for me to start researching building my own image.

"David B said he's gonna research building PE for 3xl....
GREAT...be sure to use the AOSP version ... there are a couple of flavors of PE but IMHO the AOSP version is the closest to the stock 3xl ...
If you don't mind guiding me a little over the rough patches, I'd be willing to help test your creation once you're out of alpha<G>...(my 3xl is my daily driver)... specifically, I'm used to having TWRP available for the maintenance/management of the ROM and if I understand it properly, TWRP isn't used / available for the 3xl ROM's...
Thanks
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"David B said he's gonna research building PE for 3xl....
GREAT...be sure to use the AOSP version ... there are a couple of flavors of PE but IMHO the AOSP version is the closest to the stock 3xl ...
If you don't mind guiding me a little over the rough patches, I'd be willing to help test your creation once you're out of alpha<G>...(my 3xl is my daily driver)... specifically, I'm used to having TWRP available for the maintenance/management of the ROM and if I understand it properly, TWRP isn't used / available for the 3xl ROM's...
Thanks
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For now, I would like to hold off on it. I don't really see a point in putting effort in to building PE for the 3 XL when we're about two weeks away from the next major Android release, at which point, PE will need reworked by the dev team. If the 3 XL is not picked up by someone else in the modding community at release time, and I've seen some people that think it will be, then I will start researching it.

David B. said:
For now, I would like to hold off on it. I don't really see a point in putting effort in to building PE for the 3 XL when we're about two weeks away from the next major Android release, at which point, PE will need reworked by the dev team. If the 3 XL is not picked up by someone else in the modding community at release time, and I've seen some people that think it will be, then I will start researching it.
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Sounds like a plan...will keep an eye on development threads for it once it goes out of support.

Even though the last update will be in Dec I'll probably keep using the 3XL until the 7 comes out (or 6a maybe). I just had the battery replaced a couple months ago, and there is nothing wrong with the phone. I usually use devices until EOL hits, and then upgrade when the next OS/phone comes out, so whatever device I'm using at any given time is on the current OS release (IE: 3XL on Android 12 until Android 13 drops, and then upgrade phone to get Android 13).

I would like to use that method, but I think it's too expensive, so I try to settle for "my phone's basically dead."

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I've already moved to LineageOS, simply to get the monthly security updates. I have not seen any functional loss on LineageOS. If you don't feel you need security updates, just stay on the stock ROM, especially if you think you need any Android 12 features. IMO, new Android features simply add more bloat than I want or need. Your opinion may differ.
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Does the unlimited Google Photos upload work on LineageOS?

quera said:
Does the unlimited Google Photos upload work on LineageOS?
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I don't know how to tell if it is still in effect. I see photos counted against my storage allotment, but don't know if that is just for my previous phones, or if it includes the Pixel photos.
My guess is you would have to use the Google Camera and Photo apps to keep unlimited upload, if it can be kept with LineageOS.