Can anybody tell me, why camera and other things are broken on all ROMs based MM and N? But it still works on LP ROMs (e.g. this). As I know, they are based on different kernel, but why can't anybody just merge old kernel to new and get fully working camera?
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leon0399 said:
Can anybody tell me, why camera and other things are broken on all ROMs based MM and N? But it still works on LP ROMs (e.g. this). As I know, they are based on different kernel, but why can't anybody just merge old kernel to new and get fully working camera?
Sorry for my English
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I'm no expert, but here's the little bit I know... Camera function depends on special files called blobs. The blobs are owned by Sony. The last good blobs Sony released to developers for the Z1c were the Lollipop ones, (since there hasn't been an update for Z1c since lollipop). All other roms developed since then use the old blobs, which don't work well on new roms. Noone can do anything about it except wait on Sony.
Since there's no official update after Lollipop, it would require someone to port the files from a Sony N roms to work on non-Sony roms, as was done for Lollipop, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...ide-how-to-port-featured-sony-camera-t3169253 - more than just 'merging kernel'). That's possible, but very difficult, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71999171&postcount=1381), but it seems that someone is making progress, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72328809#post72328809)... That, combined with @munjeni's TA tool, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/poc-real-trim-instead-drm-fix-t3552893), gives us hope for stock-quality camera on MM and N roms.
levone1 said:
I'm no expert, but here's the little bit I know... Camera function depends on special files called blobs. The blobs are owned by Sony. The last good blobs Sony released to developers for the Z1c were the Lollipop ones, (since there hasn't been an update for Z1c since lollipop). All other roms developed since then use the old blobs, which don't work well on new roms. Noone can do anything about it except wait on Sony.
Since there's no official update after Lollipop, it would require someone to port the files from a Sony N roms to work on non-Sony roms, as was done for Lollipop, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...ide-how-to-port-featured-sony-camera-t3169253 - more than just 'merging kernel'). That's possible, but very difficult, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71999171&postcount=1381), but it seems that someone is making progress, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=72328809#post72328809)... That, combined with @munjeni's TA tool, (https://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/poc-real-trim-instead-drm-fix-t3552893), gives us hope for stock-quality camera on MM and N roms.
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So, why can't we just "borrow" this blobs from other phones' kernels, I mean, there SHOULD be other phones by other brands with the same camera module and open-source kernel. Or I'm wrong and there is nothing like this?
leon0399 said:
So, why can't we just "borrow" this blobs from other phones' kernels, I mean, there SHOULD be other phones by other brands with the same camera module and open-source kernel. Or I'm wrong and there is nothing like this?
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"open source" doesn't mean quite the same thing for Sony as it might for some others...
leon0399 said:
So, why can't we just "borrow" this blobs from other phones' kernels, I mean, there SHOULD be other phones by other brands with the same camera module and open-source kernel. Or I'm wrong and there is nothing like this?
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I had the same idea and found this: https://github.com/PureNexusProject-Mod/android_device_wileyfox_kipper
Credit goes to the PureNexusProject team. This Wileyfox Storm called phone has the same IMX220 sensor, and as far as I know the nougat rom which is built from this sources is working fine (at least nobody is complaining about it)
leon0399 said:
So, why can't we just "borrow" this blobs from other phones' kernels, I mean, there SHOULD be other phones by other brands with the same camera module and open-source kernel. Or I'm wrong and there is nothing like this?
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I had the same idea and found this: https://github.com/PureNexusProject-Mod/android_device_wileyfox_kipper
Credit goes to the PureNexusProject team. This Wileyfox Storm called phone has the same IMX220 sensor, and as far as I know the nougat rom which is built from this sources is working fine (at least nobody is complaining about it)
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Sony blobs are device-specific, and there is no access to them. We can only wait for them to release. Several very knowledgeable and capable people have worked quite hard on it, and possibly could crack something soon, but not yet. If you have ideas, go for it
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Sony blobs are device-specific, and there is no access to them. We can only wait for them to release. Several very knowledgeable and capable people have worked quite hard on it, and possibly could crack something soon, but not yet. If you have ideas, go for it
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So if I put those camera sources into for example the aosp Z1C kernel code, and compile it, the camera wouldnt even work?
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So if I put those camera sources into for example the aosp Z1C kernel code, and compile it, the camera wouldnt even work?
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I'm no expert - my point is just that if there was a simple solution, I would expect that the experienced devs who have been working on it would have figured it out, but I'm not going to discourage any efforts. We're all rooting you on. I'm just here to support ..
: )
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I'm no expert - my point is just that if there was a simple solution, I would expect that the experienced devs who have been working on it would have figured it out, but I'm not going to discourage any efforts. We're all rooting you on. I'm just here to support ..
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I'm not an expert either, but yes, your words have logic. Just because if it could work i would set up a building enviroment, but if it has 99% chance of not successing than I dont want to waste my time
gerg1 said:
I'm not an expert either, but yes, your words have logic. Just because if it could work i would set up a building enviroment, but if it has 99% chance of not successing than I dont want to waste my time
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Maybe @munjeni has some input about your idea.
There is a Xperia X Compact with the same camera (Exmos RS 1/2,3) and it has an 6.0 official update and unnofician 7.X ROMs
leon0399 said:
There is a Xperia X Compact with the same camera (Exmos RS 1/2,3) and it has an 6.0 official update and unnofician 7.X ROMs
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Its IMX300 sensor, like in the Z5 series, it's not completely the same (also ours is 20.7 mp max, and a X compact's is 23 mp)
Sorry to revive an old thread...but I have a Z1c coming and have a question: is the quality of the camera comparable between 5.1.1 ROMs and stock 4.2?
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First of all I want to make some things clear:
This is my own custom build I made with the help of this great tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775505
This has nothing to do with the offical nightly build from Cyanogen and his team.
I won't provide any support for this. If you want to flash this you should know what you do. Don't ask me anything like "How do I flash this?".
This could be even more unstable then the official nightly build since I add commits that are not merged. It's a great feature preview, but I can't guarantee anything. I can't tell you if the features you see here will make it into any official build.
What is it?
Its a custom build of the latest Cyanogen sources spiced up with some not (yet?) merged patches.
I don't know how often I will make new builds, it depends if I find new things I want to try. If there are no new commits that interest me I won't make a new build.
I will only upload builds that work for me. So the basic stuff should work for everyone, if it doesn't try to wipe before flashing. If it still doesn't work use the official nightly/RC/stable/whatever... (Thats the point with "I won't provide any support").
Difference to the official CM nightly
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I made something like this already for the Nexus One and many people liked it.
And since we don't get official nightlys since a long time already I thougt I start making my own nightlys again.
02/10/2012: new build, added latest commits from cm + cherry picked commits (again with AROMA Installer to choose WiFi calling)
02/04/2012: same build but with AROMA Installer. You can choose if you want to have WiFi calling or not before flashing the ROM.
02/01/2012: new build, added latest commits from cm + cherry picked commits
Thanks dude, good work.
I compiled my own CM7 Rom, but not sure how to apply those unapproved changes from the review platform, would u give me a hint ?
pentie said:
Thanks dude, good work.
I compiled my own CM7 Rom, but not sure how to apply those unapproved changes from the review platform, would u give me a hint ?
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You need to cherry pick them
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Using_Git_Cherry_Pick
Why is anybody still screwing around with Android 2.3? This line is finished/dead/obsolete. Let it go already.
dhkr234 said:
Why is anybody still screwing around with Android 2.3? This line is finished/dead/obsolete. Let it go already.
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How is it dead? 2.3 is what our phones can run most efficiently with speed and smoothness, 4.0 is still choppy and major graphical glitches. Not everyone wants an unstable rom which will not be at it's optimum until a while longer.
On the other hand, I will be trying this out and thank you for putting in your time and effort to bring us another rom to choose from
I noticed no wifi calling....
I noticed in your docs that wifi calling is not included, any chance of getting this added back in?
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Why is anybody still screwing around with Android 2.3? This line is finished/dead/obsolete. Let it go already.
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Since ICS ROMs don't have camera fully working I wouldn't consider 2.3 dead. Many people including myself require a fully functional camera.
With that said I actually couldn't get camera and gallery to work on this ROM. I flashed it on top of stable CM 7.1.0 wiping only cache and dalvik.
I'm not going to do a full wipe at this point, neither am I looking for support but thought I would mention it.
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Why is anybody still screwing around with Android 2.3? This line is finished/dead/obsolete. Let it go already.
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The Cyanogenmod team is still going to release CM 7.2. So they're also still "screwing" around with it.
dhkr234 said:
Why is anybody still screwing around with Android 2.3? This line is finished/dead/obsolete. Let it go already.
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What???
You say that the version which works best on our phone is dead?
You mean 4.0 which brings us graphical glitches, no fully functional camera, bluetooth issues ... is better?
Lets talk about this in half a year again, but for now Gingerbread is the most stable and best performing version for our phones.
bradley_e_smith said:
I noticed in your docs that wifi calling is not included, any chance of getting this added back in?
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Maybe I'll make an additional zip for wifi calling, I won't include it in the rom for sure since I can't use it.
Just a heads up...for some reason removing the wifi calling files breaks my APN connection with AT&T. Makes no sense on the surface. Put back both the apks and the libs and I've got signal again.
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Just a heads up...for some reason removing the wifi calling files breaks my APN connection with AT&T. Makes no sense on the surface. Put back both the apks and the libs and I've got signal again.
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Did you change something in the build.prop too?
Everthing works fine here, making calls, data connection...
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g4rb4g3 said:
Did you change something in the build.prop too?
Everthing works fine here, making calls, data connection...
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No, I didn't touch build.prop. I thought I may try it again tonight, removing the apks and libs one at a time to see what breaks the connection with AT&T.
sisterchick said:
No, I didn't touch build.prop. I thought I may try it again tonight, removing the apks and libs one at a time to see what breaks the connection with AT&T.
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Weird, without changing the rilpath in build.prop the libs you pushed won't get loaded...
I'm curious which file is making you connection work again, please tell me when you found it out. Thanks!
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erichung_13 said:
How is it dead? 2.3 is what our phones can run most efficiently with speed and smoothness, 4.0 is still choppy and major graphical glitches. Not everyone wants an unstable rom which will not be at it's optimum until a while longer.
On the other hand, I will be trying this out and thank you for putting in your time and effort to bring us another rom to choose from
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Agreed 2.3 is the most stable, ICS has a long way to go.
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Agreed 2.3 is the most stable, ICS has a long way to go.
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The key word you've used is STABLE.
No need to keep dicking around with what already exists. If you want to use it, fine. But there's nothing left worth adding to it, and DEVELOPERS NEEDED ON 4.0!!!
dhkr234 said:
The key word you've used is STABLE.
No need to keep dicking around with what already exists. If you want to use it, fine. But there's nothing left worth adding to it, and DEVELOPERS NEEDED ON 4.0!!!
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Your bridge is waiting for you.
dhkr234 said:
The key word you've used is STABLE.
No need to keep dicking around with what already exists. If you want to use it, fine. But there's nothing left worth adding to it, and DEVELOPERS NEEDED ON 4.0!!!
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Whoa bro, what's up with you? Any kind of development for our phone should be appreciated. ics is on its way. We already have 3 dev teams working on it. If g4rbag3 wants to work on something else and you don't like it, quit dicking around in his thread.
Since I saw some nice commits got merged I made an update.
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Since I saw some nice commits got merged I made an update.
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This nigga knows !
#IgnoreTheHaters
Hi peep. I decided to start this thread because I don't wanna go OffTopic in the CM10 Quarx thread.
The fact is that I own a RedLense Defy, and since the first time I had it, I always tried to use Cyanogen. It was first the CM7 release, CM7.1, Cm7.2, now CM10 Quarx and Epsylon3... and in all the CMod ROM's I've had, they have the same trouble: filming quality is not good at all.
The only ROM that fit my necessities about the Defy's camera, is Walter's MS2GINGER. He did a great work there, and I've been using it for some months so far. But is a stock-based ROM (thats maybe the reason of why does it works there).
I would love to have a Cyanogen ROM with a nice filming quality. Even if its not 720p, at least a good wide 480p image. The first thing I've obviously tried is moving libraries from the "HD" zip to CM, the media XML, and some build.prop configs, but nothing happened (bootloop). So I ended thinking: its imposible to use those on CM.
So did someone try to improve filming in CyanoGen? Do anyone of you know a way to make it work, or the reason of why is it impossible on Cyanogen?
Thanks.
leandeganis said:
Hi peep. I decided to start this thread because I don't wanna go OffTopic in the CM10 Quarx thread.
The fact is that I own a RedLense Defy, and since the first time I had it, I always tried to use Cyanogen. It was first the CM7 release, CM7.1, Cm7.2, now CM10 Quarx and Epsylon3... and in all the CMod ROM's I've had, they have the same trouble: filming quality is not good at all.
The only ROM that fit my necessities about the Defy's camera, is Walter's MS2GINGER. He did a great work there, and I've been using it for some months so far. But is a stock-based ROM (thats maybe the reason of why does it works there).
I would love to have a Cyanogen ROM with a nice filming quality. Even if its not 720p, at least a good wide 480p image. The first thing I've obviously tried is moving libraries from the "HD" zip to CM, the media XML, and some build.prop configs, but nothing happened (bootloop). So I ended thinking: its imposible to use those on CM.
So did someone try to improve filming in CyanoGen? Do anyone of you know a way to make it work, or the reason of why is it impossible on Cyanogen?
Thanks.
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yes it is Impossible until MOTOROLA unlocks the Bootloader ,,, so JOIN THE FIGHT !!!
yamandude said:
yes it is Impossible until MOTOROLA unlocks the Bootloader ,,, so JOIN THE FIGHT !!!
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Do you really think so?
I thought that there was a trick now to unload fixed modules from the kernel and upload new ones that might work for this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28323403&postcount=1169
elnacho12 said:
Do you really think so?
I thought that there was a trick now to unload fixed modules from the kernel and upload new ones that might work for this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28323403&postcount=1169
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It means that it is POSSIBLE, I guess. :victory: And I totally think so, I don't believe a locked bootloader can make it all imposible for those with an advanced knowledge on linux and Android development.
But isn't any developer actually focused on the camera here? I searched on the forum but didn't found anything. I mean yeah, they are all fighting with the bootloader, but not to make a better camera so far.
elnacho12 said:
Do you really think so?
I thought that there was a trick now to unload fixed modules from the kernel and upload new ones that might work for this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28323403&postcount=1169
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hmmm .. hope it works then
elnacho12 said:
Do you really think so?
I thought that there was a trick now to unload fixed modules from the kernel and upload new ones that might work for this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28323403&postcount=1169
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I highly doubt it, think we'll just have to wait for a stable with better video quality options...
elnacho12 said:
Do you really think so?
I thought that there was a trick now to unload fixed modules from the kernel and upload new ones that might work for this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28323403&postcount=1169
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Sorry, I re-read the post and realized that it was only related to opengl stuff... it was not a generic workaround for kernel modules.
We still need the bootloader unlock
Cheers!
elnacho12 said:
Sorry, I re-read the post and realized that it was only related to opengl stuff... it was not a generic workaround for kernel modules.
We still need the bootloader unlock
Cheers!
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Ok I guess I'll have to say bye to a CyanoGen MOD with a proper camcorder. Stock's the choice for me.
Hello,
I looked at the Z2 features a while ago and hoped we'd get some of them too. But unfortunately, the KitKat update didn't include tap2wake
Is this feature possible to get on the Z1 Compact? Please help I have the bootloader unlocked, btw.
Regards,
Random Username
I really hope somenone makes double tap to wake possible for z1c . It's really useful.
Random Username said:
Hello,
I looked at the Z2 features a while ago and hoped we'd get some of them too. But unfortunately, the KitKat update didn't include tap2wake
Is this feature possible to get on the Z1 Compact? Please help I have the bootloader unlocked, btw.
Regards,
Random Username
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Tap2wake is kernel related, maybe future Z2 owners would port it or it could be included in a next official build
yeah i'm waiting for that too... that's a good feature to have. i'm surprised only LG has implemented it across it's phone lineup
Ι would say that tap2wake is a must for devices like ours that have ONLY ONE button. Apart from the fact that it is easier to wake your device this way , it also prevents the inevitable wear of the Power button.
hope someone starts a petition to sony hehehe
they gave Z2 that functionality so i'm thinkiing its a matter of time for us
baste07 said:
hope someone starts a petition to sony hehehe
they gave Z2 that functionality so i'm thinkiing its a matter of time for us
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Petition :laugh: :good:
We are talking about Sony here.. Petition... Not with sony
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Țap 2 wake
Yeah, upgraded to 4.4.2 and no "tap to wake"... so disappointed :crying:
Until now Doomlord,Androguide Fr and Faux made custom kernels for Xperia Z1 with this feature implemented.Doomlord has no plans to support Xperia Z1 Compact,as he don`t own this device, Faux and Androguide Fr said nothing about supporting this phone.So...we have to wait until someone ports the kernels from Z1 or creates one for this one.I`m also a big fan of DT2W function.I can`t wait for this.
aresbv2000 said:
Until now Doomlord,Androguide Fr and Faux made custom kernels for Xperia Z1 with this feature implemented.Doomlord has no plans to support Xperia Z1 Compact,as he don`t own this device, Faux and Androguide Fr said nothing about supporting this phone.So...we have to wait until someone ports the kernels from Z1 or creates one for this one.I`m also a big fan of DT2W function.I can`t wait for this.
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Munjeni is also building kernels but his response when asked about implementing it was...
munjeni said:
Sorry mate but our thread is related to the multiboot and not to the kernel things, you can open a new thread for your problem, sorry!
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...so perhaps if a few more People made them aware this is a desired feature then they may change their mind.
XperienceD said:
Munjeni is also building kernels but his response when asked about implementing it was...
...so perhaps if a few more People made them aware this is a desired feature then they may change their mind.
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Many android phone users don't even know about the existence of this feature.Last week I have asked some developers if they can try to make a kernel with this feature for Xperia Z1 Compact but the answer was, in less words "NO". Too bad because it`s a very good phone and the similarity with Xperia Z1 is very very big.So the porting,for someone who knowshow to do it,shouldn`t be so difficult.
Unfortunately developing for our phone does not exist comparing to other phones. I very unhappy about it but at least I hope Sony gives us double tap to wake feature.
Hello everyone,
I have done quite a bit of research over the past few days but I am quite overwhelmed and confused, I thought I will post my questions here as I am now a proud owner of a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact.
I ended up winning a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact from a work competition just the other day, before then I was using my iPhone 4 ever since it came out. I have never owned an Android device, I wish to root it mostly to theme the device. I have tried the Themer application in the Playstore which is fantastic in it's own right, but it doesn't let me create my own. I'm a huge Apple person and I ended up Jailbreaking all my iDevices so I wish to get some of that power out of my Android phone.
1. How harmful is it to root, unlock bootloader etc?.. I would imagine it is no different than Jailbreaking.
2. Am I able to store absolutely everything on the SD card when it comes to applications and tweaks?
3. Is it possible to remap the physical buttons to do other things?
4. I have came across Cyanogen quite a lot, is it stable and will I notice any speed issues compared to stock OS?
5. Is there a "Tweak store" of sorts to download all the extra stuff after rooting the device, similar to "Cydia" for iDevices?
I would really appreciate some assistance, I do apologize once again for being extremely new. It's just a little complicated when you hear there are so many versions of Android and rooting tools for individual devices!
Hi, I do not own the device but I've been in Sony and Android ecosystem for quiet long. So I can probably answer most of your questions.
1. Its not harmful at all! In fact since Sony devices don't get hard bricked you can't go wrong with it!
2. You can, once rooted! Ofc, you'll need mod of some kind.
3. Yup!
4. Speed issues? Probably not! But you might lose several functionalities, major one being the Camera quality. As Sony camera works as great as it is on stock only.
5. This forum is your tweak store.
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Hi, I do not own the device but I've been in Sony and Android ecosystem for quiet long. So I can probably answer most of your questions.
1. Its not harmful at all! In fact since Sony devices don't get hard bricked you can't go wrong with it!
2. You can, once rooted! Ofc, you'll need mod of some kind.
3. Yup!
4. Speed issues? Probably not! But you might lose several functionalities, major one being the Camera quality. As Sony camera works as great as it is on stock only.
5. This forum is your tweak store.
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Thanks for getting back to me very quickly. I did not know Sony devices cannot get hard bricked. So you're saying whatever I do to it software wise, I cannot not physically render the phone useless?
How bad is the camera quality once you root? is it very noticeable, are people trying to improve the quality?
I will definitely have browse this forum more, is there a particular place you would suggest or should I just stay in the Z1 Compact thread?
Happy_todd said:
Thanks for getting back to me very quickly. I did not know Sony devices cannot get hard bricked. So you're saying whatever I do to it software wise, I cannot not physically render the phone useless?
How bad is the camera quality once you root? is it very noticeable, are people trying to improve the quality?
I will definitely have browse this forum more, is there a particular place you would suggest or should I just stay in the Z1 Compact thread?
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I've been using Sony (ericsson) devices since forever and I can tell you you'll love it. About the brick - feel safe. Whatever goes wrong with the phone just flash the original stock FTF firmware via Flashtool and your phone is like new. It's not necessary to switch to CyanogenMod as Sony's firmware is very smooth and fast on our devices thanks to the hardware and the lower resolution. You can just root and install one of the stock based roms in the development section. No need to unlock and you can get 4K video and 120fps slow motion video without losing picture quality
Edit: You don't lose quality when you root. Sony uses bionz image processor which requires the bootloader to be locked to work. If you unlock your BL you will have pictures with colder colors (from my observations) and more noise since Bionz is not processing the shots.
omegastarr said:
I've been using Sony (ericsson) devices since forever and I can tell you you'll love it. About the brick - feel safe. Whatever goes wrong with the phone just flash the original stock FTF firmware via Flashtool and your phone is like new. It's not necessary to switch to CyanogenMod as Sony's firmware is very smooth and fast on our devices thanks to the hardware and the lower resolution. You can just root and install one of the stock based roms in the development section. No need to unlock and you can get 4K video and 120fps slow motion video without losing picture quality
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No loss of picture quality, that's contradicting with what KyleSforza said. If something did go wrong with the device, and I flashed back to the original stock FTF firmware, will it leave traces of the root on my phone in case I had to send the handset back for warranty repair or anything?.. Also how does one obtain the original stock firmware, would that be in the development section or on Sonys website somewhere? Thanks so much!
Happy_todd said:
No loss of picture quality, that's contradicting with what KyleSforza said. If something did go wrong with the device, and I flashed back to the original stock FTF firmware, will it leave traces of the root on my phone in case I had to send the handset back for warranty repair or anything?.. Also how does one obtain the original stock firmware, would that be in the development section or on Sonys website somewhere? Thanks so much!
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Look my edited post, I have explained why picture quality gets bad. As long as you use stock based firmware on locked bootloader (BL) you will not lose quality. About the warranty - I think rooting does not drop it but unlocking the BL does. You need to read some of the threads in this section before doing anything. When you flash the FTF everything goes back to stock and you will lose the root. As long as you BL is locked and you are on stock firmware your warranty is not voided.
Edit: You can find FTFs in the development section as well
I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
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1. How harmful is it to root, unlock bootloader etc?.. I would imagine it is no different than Jailbreaking.
Rooting is a bit more work than jailbreaking, because no simple one-click-method esists anymore/yet/at the moment. A rooted device allows you to modify EVERYTHING there is on your device (software wise). This naturally brings some dangers, such as losing all your data, or bricking it. As the posters above already stated, it is quite hard to do lasting damage to your phone. Overclocking and removing overheat protection might, but other than software-induced hardware damage, it is nearly imposible. Keep in mid that playing with partitions might require you to open the device to repair the software.
Additionally, rooting via Bootloader unlocking* removes Sony's DRM-Keys. This mainly stops Xreality and the Bionz image processor from working. it is possible to back up those keys, and i would recomend doing that. It complicates rooting a lot, but makes it possible to go back to a 100% stock phone if you ever want to. they are located in their own partition (TA). flashing another TA partition than your own will also cause your phone to be permanently broken.
2. Am I able to store absolutely everything on the SD card when it comes to applications and tweaks?
You should be able to, yes. I am however not sure how you mean that. Some tweaks like init.d scripts need to be in the system folder, as have some of the apps. It is certainly possible to have them elsewhere, but it will require some effort. Why do you want to have everything on the external memory?
3. Is it possible to remap the physical buttons to do other things?
Yes.
4. I have came across Cyanogen quite a lot, is it stable and will I notice any speed issues compared to stock OS?
CM is stable, yes. they have "Snapshot" builds, which are lightly quality tested (boots, features work as they should in most usecases, etc) and nightlies. Nightlies are builds that are generated automatically every night by a bot (3 actually) and are also quite stable. But it can happen that there are mayor bugs (not booting, stuff crashing left, right and center...), specially at the beginning of merging a nes Android release. rolling back to the last working FW will normally fix that.
Speed is normally faster because it has less bloatware.
5. Is there a "Tweak store" of sorts to download all the extra stuff after rooting the device, similar to "Cydia" for iDevices?
No. You have t find it yourself and sideloas the *.apk. Be careful with what you install. Stuff on the forum should be fine, because other able coders quite quickly raise awareness if something's not right. For Xposed there is a dedicated repo which you can access from the module itself.
there are so many versions of Android and rooting tools for individual devices!
This is the reason why there are device specific forums. Stay here for everything device-related. There are special forums for non-device-specific stuff as apps and certain tweaks.
I hope this celaned up some questions, if you still have some: read, read, read! learn, and do not be hasty in the beginning. Or just ask me...
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coolkoushik07 said:
I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
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This can in no way be generalized like that. tastes are different, and everyone should decide by themselves.
coolkoushik07 said:
I am using CyanogenMod and it is obviously better than Sony stock ROM.. Just two issues I have faced on CyanogenMod.. Sound volume is very low and camera quality is also bad.. Except these two, everything is more stable than stock ROM..
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I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.
Iruwen said:
I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.
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tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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omegastarr said:
If you unlock your BL you will have pictures with colder colors (from my observations) and more noise since Bionz is not processing the shots.
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That's the first I have heard of this. Has anyone else confirmed this?
Well try it and see for yourself. A very detailed post was made in one of the z1 threads and the pictures were clearly showing that. I can't remember in which thread was that because it was more than a month ago.
coolkoushik07 said:
tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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Your reading comprehension is lacking, I didn't say there are no issues with stock ROMs.
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Your reading comprehension is lacking, I didn't say there are no issues with stock ROMs.
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read ur own text again.. ur 1st statement was, u cant see where cm is obviously better.. and u told that cm is not stable. then tell me a rom which is more stable.. ur common sense is also lacking lol..
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Iruwen said:
I don't see where CM is "obviously" better, stock ROMs lack functions but a rooted stock with Xposed is pretty close to some third party ROMs. As Coirpre already said, that's a matter of personal preferences. And CM is far from being more stable than any stock ROM. E.g., last time I tried CM and all ROMs based on it completely prevented using encryption because the sensors didn't work. Tethering's also still broken iirc, among several other things judging by the corresponding thread.
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coolkoushik07 said:
tethering is working in cm latest nightly.. in stock rom there is over heating prob, notification sound stuttering prob, 'while playing hd games cant charge phone' bug, is that u call a stable rom? lol.. also i am getting better battery backup on cm... u must be a light user and u can only realize these issues on heavy usage..
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Go playing somewhere else, this is not the topic of this thread!
omegastarr said:
Well try it and see for yourself. A very detailed post was made in one of the z1 threads and the pictures were clearly showing that. I can't remember in which thread was that because it was more than a month ago.
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could you refind it for us? you know the title and the time, and which subforum it was. woud be much quicker than us scouring th forums
EDIT: Thanks! that really is interesting. I might have to relock the BL...
Coirpre said:
Go playing somewhere else, this is not the topic of this thread!
could you refind it for us? you know the title and the time, and which subforum it was. woud be much quicker than us scouring th forums
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what are u talking about? Did u ever read what op asked about? Don't just pass a comment, read thread before posting such a comment.. You should note that this is not a place for trolling.. And u better learn urself how to avoid being off topic..
and yes my this post (just to reply you) is off topic and u r the reason for being off topic..
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Hi,
camera aside, cm is great. It has lots of customization options and as long as you don't use your phone as MAIN camera device this is the rom for you. However, if you use this 20mpix beast then don't bother with CM. The second someone manages to port stock camera or implement camera as good as stock, cm will win most of users. Again, final decision is up to the user.
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15 minutes lost from my precious time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52658590&postcount=67
This ROM is in no way suitable for daily use and is only shared so that other fellow developers can take a look and maybe provide fixes to one or multiple things on the "not working" list.
Take it as a very early proof of concept.
ROM DOWNLOAD: http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23501681358554238
What I did to get this far...
1. I took the MI3W miui-germany ROM
2. I unpacked the MI3W's ROM
3. I unpacked the boot.img of the MI3W ROM (zImage, dt.img, ramdisk)
4. I patched the fstab.qcom and init*.rc files to match the Find 7a
5. I unpacked the latest OmniROM for Find7a
6. I unpacked the boot.img of OmniROM (zImage, dt.img, ramdisk)
7. I copied zImage and dt.img from OmniROM's extracted boot.img into MI3W's extracted boot.img
8. I repacked the MI3W boot.img
9. I bundled the MI3W system partition with the modified MI3W boot.img and uploaded it onto the internet for someone else to iron out the remaining bugs
What seems to work...
*) Basic Operation (MIUI apps, status bar, well what you would expect really)
*) Bluetooth
*) Wired Headset / Bluetooth Audio
*) RIL / Mobile Data
*) GPS
What doesn't work... yet...
*) WiFi (there seems to be some issues with wcnss / pronto / prima, this one is bad...)
*) Random Reboots / Blackscreen Glitches (from what kmsg tells me it seems to be related to wcnss, aka. WiFi drivers causing a critical error in kernel every once in a while, fix WiFi and this error will fix itself)
*) Speaker Audio
*) Rotation Sensor (and probably others)
*) Vibration
*) Skyline Notification Light
*) NFC
For pictures check the thread at the oppoforums: http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/rom-miui-port-for-find-7a.17409
Good things always have the obstacles.
You've done your part. And let other(s) help you.
I don't have knowledge about cooking a ROM.
But I think someone can help. @Entropy512, can you look at this one?
If you want mae some cool port, i thikn sense rom is good candidate...
Great work
hey there mrcoldbird,
great work so far...keep it up..will definately help support you on this when it is up and running..i am not a dev but if you need someone to just bug report i am there for you,will keep my eyes n ears peeled on the thread and as soon as it's near ready i will flash and help you anyway i can...thank you for all your hard work so far
Right now we need developers involved in this. We know the countless obvious bugs.
Just have to fix them.
Awesome work. Thanks bird. Any chance you want to try lewa os while you're at it. I personally think it is better. I imagine just how busy you are but just wanted to throw it out there
Porting really should only be done when there is no source available for said ROM.
For unicorn a source rebuild might be better.
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Porting really should only be done when there is no source available for said ROM.
For unicorn a source rebuild might be better.
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I updated my post. You should really check out lewa. It has find 5 official support
uppon2 said:
I updated my post. You should really check out lewa. It has find 5 official support
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no news about this rom
I was actually searching for people to help me with this but no one bit the bait yet.
I am continually working on MIUI, bit by bit... but due to reallife interference it goes... slowly.
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I was actually searching for people to help me with this but no one bit the bait yet.
I am continually working on MIUI, bit by bit... but due to reallife interference it goes... slowly.
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ok thanks for answer. i love miui rom. i think it can be the best rom for find 7a
good luck
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I was actually searching for people to help me with this but no one bit the bait yet.
I am continually working on MIUI, bit by bit... but due to reallife interference it goes... slowly.
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if you need help for test rom tell me. i have a lot of time for this.
when i try to install your rom twrp failed. do you know why ?
jazzypit said:
no news about this rom
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Lewa OS website
YouTube video
uppon2 said:
Lewa OS website
YouTube video
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no rom for oppo find 7a
do you have a link for test ?
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no rom for oppo find 7a
do you have a link for test ?
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No. That is what I'm asking for; a build for lewa for the find 7.
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No. That is what I'm asking for; a build for lewa for the find 7.
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Which doesn't belong in this thread. Take it elsewhere.
justin654 said:
Which doesn't belong in this thread. Take it elsewhere.
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Lewa OS is extremely similar to MIUI and that is why I even bothered to mention it. I know the developer is having some trouble with MIUI so I thought it would be useful and helpful to mention Lewa as it might be a project that will help the development of either or rom.
Please don't take a blunt tone with me (if that's what it was) as it only makes you look arrogant. Taking in to account our post and thanks scores it is quite clear who has contributed in a more positive way towards XDA. On that note; you might also want to thank MrColdbird in the OP for his contribution, which you have not done as of yet but you seem to be poking your nose in to the thread
That is all
Edit* I apologise MrColdbird if my suggestion was unwarranted.
MrColdbird said:
I was actually searching for people to help me with this but no one bit the bait yet.
I am continually working on MIUI, bit by bit... but due to reallife interference it goes... slowly.
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I am setting up a build environment and will be looking in to it; starting with wifi. I think I might check out lewa as well.
good luck
I've pm one of the Miui dev from note 1 community, and hope that he willing to lend his hand for you @MrColdbird.
Mr @Gerrett, can you help him? If you got some free time. I know you so busy. But at least, just a little guide for him.
FareedYusoff said:
I've pm one of the Miui dev from note 1 community, and hope that he willing to lend his hand for you @MrColdbird.
Mr @Gerrett, can you help him? If you got some free time. I know you so busy. But at least, just a little guide for him.
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Actually I've got 99% of the issues resolved already by using a different port-rom in conjunction with a few OmniROM injects.
At the moment only the proximity sensor (screen off on holding the phone to your ear) and nfc are broken, lte works, but needs to be reselected every time the phone reboots via the service menu (dialer code).
Sadly, I'm not allowed to share that (quite nicely working) ROM just yet as I switched port-bases to a unreleased chinese one in favor of the MI3W port-base.
Until that chinese author releases his first public port base-rom I'm kinda bound by the promise I gave not to unveil things early.
Just hang in there, it shouldn't be long until you guys have MIUI on Find7a... all I can tell you is that it works nicely and without any critical flaws I can see except those mentioned above (which we will get fixed too eventually).
MrColdbird said:
Actually I've got 99% of the issues resolved already by using a different port-rom in conjunction with a few OmniROM injects.
At the moment only the proximity sensor (screen off on holding the phone to your ear) and nfc are broken, lte works, but needs to be reselected every time the phone reboots via the service menu (dialer code).
Sadly, I'm not allowed to share that (quite nicely working) ROM just yet as I switched port-bases to a unreleased chinese one in favor of the MI3W port-base.
Until that chinese author releases his first public port base-rom I'm kinda bound by the promise I gave not to unveil things early.
Just hang in there, it shouldn't be long until you guys have MIUI on Find7a... all I can tell you is that it works nicely and without any critical flaws I can see except those mentioned above (which we will get fixed too eventually).
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Quite fast actually. By the way, I just can wait and see your nice work.
I'm trying to help, but that's all I can do right now. All the best on your effort.
I appriciate your hardwork. :highfive: